md11fr8dawg Posted February 11, 2021 Report Share Posted February 11, 2021 Hey tjokie, I believe it was Jefferson, who said (not quoting) that the beginning of the downfall of any country like the US is when the people realize they can take largess from the treasury for free. And we have been there a large part if not all of my 70 years here on earth. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Half Crazy Runner Posted February 11, 2021 Report Share Posted February 11, 2021 3 hours ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said: "Iraq will RV when it benefits the corrupt politicians". I believe this 💯% Nothing else makes any sense 1 2 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olivesman Posted February 11, 2021 Report Share Posted February 11, 2021 1 hour ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said: I can explain it in one word, DOMINION. We haven't been electing our political figures for decades. I was going to say something to that effect but... 3 1 5 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROSTYJACK Posted February 11, 2021 Report Share Posted February 11, 2021 13 hours ago, Karsten said: 10 more days of Biden and we will no longer have Banks, Gas Stations or Grocery Stores. 🤪🤪🤪 1 6 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lisashafer Posted February 11, 2021 Report Share Posted February 11, 2021 Please, again, for the umpteenth time, knock it off with the political statements! 3 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coorslite21 Posted February 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2021 1 hour ago, lisashafer said: Please, again, for the umpteenth time, knock it off with the political statements! Unfortunately politics are in everything these days....even in the IQD Investment sector....best if you just tune it out....JMO CL 1 13 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synopsis Posted February 11, 2021 Report Share Posted February 11, 2021 7 hours ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said: Because one thing the last couple of weeks should have shown us all is that the world leaders don't give a dammmmm about us little people. Just for clarity, are You ACTUALLY suggested we are ALL just peons getting peed on???!!! Go Moola Nova! 4 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synopsis Posted February 11, 2021 Report Share Posted February 11, 2021 4 hours ago, md11fr8dawg said: Hey tjokie, I believe it was Jefferson, who said (not quoting) that the beginning of the downfall of any country like the US is when the people realize they can take largess from the treasury for free. And we have been there a large part if not all of my 70 years here on earth. Former The United States Of America President Thomas Jefferson may have said it while Alexander Fraser Tytler appears to be the originator of the quote. Alexander Fraser Tytler > Quotes Alexander Fraser Tytler quotes Showing 1-4 of 4 “A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years. These nations have progressed through this sequence: From bondage to spiritual faith; From spiritual faith to great courage; From courage to liberty; From liberty to abundance; From abundance to selfishness; From selfishness to apathy; From apathy to dependence; From dependence back into bondage.” ― Alexander Fraser Tytler https://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/5451872.Alexander_Fraser_Tytler Alexander Fraser Tytler, Lord Woodhouselee Advocate Description Description Alexander Fraser Tytler, Lord Woodhouselee FRSE was a Scottish advocate, judge, writer and historian who served as Professor of Universal History, and Greek and Roman Antiquities at the University of Edinburgh. Wikipedia Born: October 15, 1747, Edinburgh, United Kingdom Died: January 5, 1813, Edinburgh, United Kingdom Parents: William Tytler Profession: Advocate, Judge, Writer, Historian Children: Patrick Fraser Tytler, James Fraser Tytler, William Fraser Tytler, Jane Fraser Tytler Go Moola Nova! 2 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjokie Posted February 11, 2021 Report Share Posted February 11, 2021 24 minutes ago, Synopsis said: Former The United States Of America President Thomas Jefferson may have said it while Alexander Fraser Tytler appears to be the originator of the quote. Alexander Fraser Tytler > Quotes Alexander Fraser Tytler quotes Showing 1-4 of 4 “A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years. These nations have progressed through this sequence: From bondage to spiritual faith; From spiritual faith to great courage; From courage to liberty; From liberty to abundance; From abundance to selfishness; From selfishness to apathy; From apathy to dependence; From dependence back into bondage.” ― Alexander Fraser Tytler https://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/5451872.Alexander_Fraser_Tytler Alexander Fraser Tytler, Lord Woodhouselee Advocate Description Description Alexander Fraser Tytler, Lord Woodhouselee FRSE was a Scottish advocate, judge, writer and historian who served as Professor of Universal History, and Greek and Roman Antiquities at the University of Edinburgh. Wikipedia Born: October 15, 1747, Edinburgh, United Kingdom Died: January 5, 1813, Edinburgh, United Kingdom Parents: William Tytler Profession: Advocate, Judge, Writer, Historian Children: Patrick Fraser Tytler, James Fraser Tytler, William Fraser Tytler, Jane Fraser Tytler Go Moola Nova! Frighteningly accurate! 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DinarThug Posted February 11, 2021 Report Share Posted February 11, 2021 3 hours ago, lisashafer said: Please, again, for the umpteenth time, knock it off with the political statements! Weegie For Reality Czar ! 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKD Posted February 11, 2021 Report Share Posted February 11, 2021 Sounds interesting, can't wait to see the post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yendor Posted February 11, 2021 Report Share Posted February 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Synopsis said: Just for clarity, are You ACTUALLY suggested we are ALL just peons getting peed on???!!! Go Moola Nova! In small government, we are CITIZENS and we have a voice. In large governments, we are SUBJECTS and we DO get pissed on. 1 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
md11fr8dawg Posted February 11, 2021 Report Share Posted February 11, 2021 Thanks for finding that Synopsis, it was spot on. The point to take from this whole discussion, is we the people elect our officials. They work for us. How we forget that, so when the "officials" start giving away freebies paid for with our $$, many of the recipients have not paid into the system, (no skin in the game) but are reaping the benefits of free shiite. Thus the tide turns to where we get a permanent class of scumbag corrupt politicians who remain in their position by giving away OPM which they either took thru taxes or created out of thin air via QE and $$ printing. And down the bankrupt rabbit hole we go. 7 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captjohnk Posted February 11, 2021 Report Share Posted February 11, 2021 any idea when Adams chat will be? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yendor Posted February 11, 2021 Report Share Posted February 11, 2021 45 minutes ago, captjohnk said: any idea when Adams chat will be? The minute he posts it would be my guess. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post "Fred" Posted February 11, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted February 11, 2021 57 minutes ago, md11fr8dawg said: Thanks for finding that Synopsis, it was spot on. The point to take from this whole discussion, is we the people elect our officials. They work for us. How we forget that, so when the "officials" start giving away freebies paid for with our $$, many of the recipients have not paid into the system, (no skin in the game) but are reaping the benefits of free shiite. Thus the tide turns to where we get a permanent class of scumbag corrupt politicians who remain in their position by giving away OPM which they either took thru taxes or created out of thin air via QE and $$ printing. And down the bankrupt rabbit hole we go. 4 2 8 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renomac Posted February 11, 2021 Report Share Posted February 11, 2021 GO RV GO ! ! ! Bring us Home Adam ! God Bless renomac 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psdon Posted February 11, 2021 Report Share Posted February 11, 2021 😴I think Adam is sleeping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
md11fr8dawg Posted February 11, 2021 Report Share Posted February 11, 2021 1 hour ago, yendor said: The minute he posts it would be my guess. Probably not before!! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psdon Posted February 11, 2021 Report Share Posted February 11, 2021 5 minutes ago, md11fr8dawg said: Probably not before!! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Montana Posted February 11, 2021 Report Share Posted February 11, 2021 6 hours ago, coorslite21 said: Unfortunately politics are in everything these days....even in the IQD Investment sector....best if you just tune it out....JMO CL 👆 IQD is ALL politics. So is pretty much everything else associated with money. 2 6 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Montana Posted February 11, 2021 Report Share Posted February 11, 2021 2 hours ago, yendor said: The minute he posts it would be my guess. That's one of the best bets of the millenia! 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synopsis Posted February 12, 2021 Report Share Posted February 12, 2021 5 hours ago, yendor said: In small government, we are CITIZENS and we have a voice. In large governments, we are SUBJECTS and we DO get pissed on. Looks like it is all how one chooses to hold themself as being under the Pursuit Of Life, Liberty, AND The Pursuit Of Happiness (Citizen - LEGAL, of course) OR being ruled over as bleeple sheeple ("subject"). cit·i·zen /ˈsidizən,ˈsidisən/ noun a legally recognized subject or national of a state or commonwealth, either native or naturalized. "a Polish citizen" an inhabitant of a particular town or city. "the citizens of Los Angeles" sub·ject noun /ˈsəbjekt/ 1. a person or thing that is being discussed, described, or dealt with. "I've said all there is to be said on the subject" 2. a branch of knowledge studied or taught in a school, college, or university. "math is not my best subject" adjective /ˈsəbjekt/ 1. likely or prone to be affected by (a particular condition or occurrence, typically an unwelcome or unpleasant one). "he was subject to bouts of manic depression" 2. dependent or conditional upon. "the proposed merger is subject to the approval of the shareholders" adverb /ˈsəbjekt/ conditionally upon. "subject to bankruptcy court approval, the company expects to begin liquidation of its inventory" verb /səbˈjekt/ 1. cause or force to undergo (a particular experience of form of treatment). "he'd subjected her to a terrifying ordeal" 2. bring (a person or country) under one's control or jurisdiction, typically by using force. "the city had been subjected to Macedonian rule" Yeah, I am a Citizen (noun) NOT a "subject" (verb). Go Moola Nova! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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