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14 hours ago, Shedagal said:

I think it's a credit to Adam that 'freeloaders' are allowed a voice on this site.  VIP!" rel="">VIP is such a small price to pay for what you get.  

 

Thanks you for Lumping me as a Freeloader......Years ago I did belong to VIP....Maybe it was way early but nothing was really ever posted there back then.....but hey, I am a Freeloader.

 

Looks to me like I contributed more to this Forum than you have ......Comparing numbers.

 

What ever.

 

Karsten

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3 minutes ago, Karsten said:

 

Thanks you for Lumping me as a Freeloader......Years ago I did belong to VIP!" rel="">VIP....Maybe it was way early but nothing was really ever posted there back then.....but hey, I am a Freeloader.

 

Looks to me like I contributed more to this Forum than you have ......Comparing numbers.

 

What ever.

 

Karsten

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22 hours ago, KristiD said:

 

Alrighty then!  Understood!!

 

 

Alas, I guess a lot people do not read what I post.  A little sad to learn, but at least I know where I stand now.  I am VIP!">VIP but this particular issue is about "Politics", and that section is only in the general/free forum.  I had actually suggested a second solution, which was to add a "Politics" topic in VIP!">VIP, but I guess no one read that post either.  Oh well.......

Hi KristiD,

 

Good morning.  A lot of people read what you post.  I doubt there are a lot of people who read EVERYTHING anyone posts, but there may be a few.  I, for one, read many of the things you post, as well as others, but simply don't leave a response every time I read something. 

 

Adam has the equivalent of 2 full time jobs PLUS this site.  That's why he has us to help out with the moderation.  For example, did you read my post from a few days ago to NAKS and one other member about MODS and our jobs?  No?  I guess not everybody reads my posts either...Oh well! 

 

Thought I would add this just in case you're interested...

 

 

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Okay, I'm now going to chime in on this one as it's beginning to affect the actions and feelings of other members. 

 

Adam, you know the amount of great respect I have for you and so I ask that you take my response in that regard. 

 

It is my opinion that this entire thread is in clear violation of forum rules. And were I to have full Moderators powers I would have shut down this thread from the beginning. 

The reason for my take I present with one question. 

 

How is this thread not being seen as ATTACKING other members here? Especially, when one member has been called out by name.  

 

We ALL have the ability to place any member on ignore. Furthermore, we all have the ability to place any section on ignore. I haven't had to endure a music thread post for years. 

 

So I ask what's the problem? And the ONLY answer I can come to is someone considers Shabbs to be the problem. No two people could be more different in their political views than Shabbs and I, but I will defend his RIGHT to hold his views to the death. 

 

There have been members here who hold a different political view than I who I moved to be banned. But I NEVER ONCE wanted someone Banned simply because I don't like what they say. But rather how they said it. 

In my opinion Shabbs is by and far one of the MOST RESPECTFUL posters on DV

 

As to creating a political section in VIP, I leave that choice to Adam. Personally I don't think it would do much as it would become little more than an echo chamber. 

 

in closing @KristiD please don't take this as an attack on you. Nothing could be further from the truth.  But as a Moderator we have rules to apply. I know you and I understand that you didn't mean this thread to be an attack on one member, but that is what it's become. Ask yourself this question, if you were Shabbs and you read this thread, "How would you feel "?

 

Santa rant over. 

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On 12/1/2020 at 3:08 PM, KristiD said:

These are scary times as the majority of members here are pro-Trump and we are very concerned our Republic may fall to socialism if we can't expose and undo the voter fraud in the last election.  So right now, I like checking the Politics section often to see what others are posting.  I just went there and found that 6 of the 7 most recent posts are from shabilicious.  This member, like johnny dinar who is alaready on mod review, is disrespectful and most of his posts are attacks on Trump, done with the intention of getting pro-Trump members into an argument as the try to defend him.  Shab's goal in posting does not seem to be respectful discussion, but rather to push the buttons of Trump supporters.  I've actually stopped reading shab's, along with johnny dinar's and caddieman's, posts because I refuse to let strangers pull me into an endless argument.  I believe their real goal is to push the buttons of people they don't even know in order to feel powerful.  Their modus operandi seems to be to get people angry enough to say something unkind so they can then attack them for being intolerant.  It's classic, passive agressive behavior in my opinion.  I've tried to explain this to others here more than once, pointing out that the solution is to stop engaging with these people who are trying to bait you into losing your temper.  If you just ignore them, they'll eventually go away and target other people, hopefully on a different forum.  But nobody listened and now these people are taking over the Politics section.  I started a topic about Covid being partisan, and sure enough shabs replyed to it and hijacked the subject to be about Trump losing the election (I didn't actually read it, but I read Coors reply to him from which I could gather what was said).  So I replied and politely asked if people would not pull that thread off topic, and no surprise, all three of them, shabs, johnny and caddieman quickly replied.  As I said, I don't play their game so I don't read what they post, but I'm pretty sure they were not making construction comments but rather their posts were attacks of same kind designed to start an argument.  Also, here's a screenshot I just took showing how much shabs is posting in the Politics section now - 6 out of the 7 most recent comments - in 7 different threads, were from him/her.  Again, I don't read what he/she posts either, but I feel confident that if you do read those posts, you'll find they are attacks of some kind designed to get a rise of out pro-Trump people and pull them into a never ending argument.      

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I invite other members to comment about their experiences with these 3 members as well.  If others are also bothered by their behavior - and I believe they are, can admin put the last 2 on mod review, like you already have done with Johnny?  And just censor their posts when you see the intent is to goad people into arguing with them.  As I said, these are scary times and it would be so great if we could all respectfully share our opinions about what's going without being baited into meaningless, unending arguments.  Thank you   

 

 

 

I personally don't care much for shabs or his posts, and he's the same about me in most regards. I do however realize he has the right to have and post his opinion weather I agree or not. I just choose to never respond to him anymore unless it's to post something positive about a comment or article.

 

  Just me I guess

 

   pp

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Past a cursory assessment, the stakes are too high to let personal privileges or personal indulgences rule over Truth, Decency, Reason, AND (of course) Common Sense in a common area or forum.

 

Skewed and baseless responses are the typical or preferred method to attempt to hinder the progress or usage of Truth, Decency, Reason, AND (especially) Common Sense with the specific intent to silence completely.

 

People should NOT be antagonized for the Free Exercise of Truth, Decency, Reason, AND (especially) Common Sense but instead be ardently supported for adhering to Truth, Decency, Reason, AND (especially) Common Sense. Well, I do my best here to support others - as unorthodox as MAY be.

 

I believe it is my duty and responsibility to address the baseless actions someone would exercise to contest ACTUAL exercise of Truth, Decency, Reason, AND (especially) Common Sense. I really do NOT care what other's think or who ever they are. History has repeatedly shown what happens when individuals and groups of people give way and tolerate little or great affronts on Truth, Decency, Reason, AND (especially) Common Sense.

 

To avoid ad nauseam, the Four (4) Textual Cornerstones are (really) indisputable as the undeniable foundation for Truth, Decency, Reason, AND (of course) Common Sense especially in the frame work of social interactions.

 

Time and experience usually augments one's perspectives and responses until one realizes there really is an unchangeable and firm EXTERNAL basis for principle amenable to the promotion of one's well being in the context of all other's true and sustainable benefit - the EXTERNAL basis one lives out INTERNALLY.

 

So, what is at stake?

 

I think we have seen it progressively over time.

 

Recently, the OBVIOUS AND EXTENSIVE voter fraud is a directed tool to destroy ALL the Four (4) Textual Cornerstones with:

  1. Lies.
  2. Treason.
  3. Removed Peaceable AND Amenable Social Orders.
  4. Confiscation Of ALL Personal Property.

Really.

 

Shouldn't be ANY question HERE.

 

I can personally attest to:

  1. Institutions of Higher Education (now starting at our Elementary Education level) Institutions are HIGHLY Atheistic AND Socialist going back to the early and mid 1980s.
  2. Liberal AND Socialist factions have high jacked The United States Of America Political System TO INCLUDE the voting process.
  3. Sex, Drugs, AND Rock 'n Roll are NOW the sought after unsustainable basis for Social Orders where delayed gratification for real and meaningful ways of life or vehemently rejected and opposed.
  4. Government, even a One World Government, wants to have everything and control EVERY individual down to every detail of a person's life.

So, who are You?

 

What stand, if any, will You take?

 

What will You do, if anything?

 

Hamilton Quotes on Twitter: ""If you stand for nothing Burr, what'll you  fall for?" #Hamilton #hamiltonmusical… "

What will You stand for (or fall for), if anything?

 

Yeah, I'll take my stand when the Snowflake And Buttercup Idiot Brigade Volunteer Forces come knocking to undermine The Four (4) Textual Cornerstones where ever AND when ever they come knocking:

  1. The Bible.
  2. The Constitution Of The United States Of America TO INCLUDE The Ratified Bill Of Rights / Declaration Of Independence / Federalist Papers.
  3. Blackstone English Common Law (stripped of the Crown Entity obligations).
  4. Magna Carta.

What are Your thoughts, if any?

 

Where will Your thoughts, if any, and actions, if any, lead?

 

What do You think will happen by Your action(s) or inaction(s)?

 

Well, OK, enough of my being "turdy" "wurdy"!!!

 

:lmao:   :lmao:   :lmao:

 

Yeah, I am GUILTY as CHARGED!!!

 

Guilty as Charged – The Value of Life

 

Nobody can fix Stupid while the best any one can do is neutralize it.

 

- Synopsis

 

Well, OK, I TRY to be an EQUALIZER!!!

 

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Are True The United States Of America Patriots REALLY ANY less?

 

I consider looking at the graves of Revolutionary War Heroes - especially the ones that died on the British Prisoner Ships AND died of disease. They ALL are shaking their head at me as I look down at them. They say to me - "Do NOT let THIS happen to the Country I fought and died for. I paid the price so YOU could do the same. Do NOT let this opportunity slip and fall to the hands of the enemy - FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC."

 

What do The True The United States Of America Patriots who have gone before us say to YOU, if anything?

 

Are You listening?

 

What are the succeeding generations of POTENTIAL True The United States Of America Patriots saying to You?

 

Will You respond to the call?

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1 hour ago, Synopsis said:

People should NOT be antagonized for the Free Exercise of Truth, Decency, Reason, AND (especially) Common Sense but instead be ardently supported for adhering to Truth, Decency, Reason, AND (especially) Common Sense. Well, I do my best here to support system" rel="">support others - as unorthodox as MAY be.

 

I believe it is my duty and responsibility to address the baseless actions someone would exercise to contest ACTUAL exercise of Truth, Decency, Reason, AND (especially) Common Sense. I really do NOT care what other's think or who ever they are. History has repeatedly shown what happens when individuals and groups of people give way and tolerate little or great affronts on Truth, Decency, Reason, AND (especially) Common Sense

My friend show me where Shabbs "antagonizes" you. 

Other than posting 'His Truth' I fail to see him as antagonistic towards anyone. 

The issue here isn't about whatever everyone considers truth but what Truth really is. And what is truth? For me 'Truth' can ONLY BE FOUND IN JESUS CHRIST.  For others Truth is an entirely different matter. And for those 'others' my truth is not only heresy but must be silenced even if by death.  

This is where free speech crosses over into Fascism. When I chose to silence your truth because I believe it threatens me. That behavior will not stop until all others opinions are eliminated. 

 

I took an oath at 19 years of age to protect and defend the constitution of America. The right of "FREE SPEECH" being a centerpiece of our Constitution. Whether or not I agree with or like what someone says is irrelevant. We all are free to think and speak as we choose.  

ONLY when someone crosses over from "Free speech" to the place of violating my rights given me by God and expressed in the Constitution do I Reserve the right to defend myself. 

Someone's WORDS have no power over me whatsoever. 

 

It's easy to blend the words of people like Shabbs with the actions of political people who would steal an election and the desire to retaliate is strong. But Shabbs is not the kind of person who would do such a thing. Shabbs would NEVER violate your own God given rights. 

Blaming Shabbs for the actions of others through blending his opinions with evil peoples actions is simply not right. We here at Dinar Vets are better than that. 

 

Whereas, we should consider why someone like Shabbs believes what he does. Shabbs, like each of us, is simply the product of his environment. He receives his information from a few MSM outlets, most likely because of trust issues. If you or I were from the same environment we would most likely be just like Shabbs. 

So rather than remove him from the discourse I prefer to interact with him. Doing so gives way to change on both sides. 

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29 minutes ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said:

My friend show me where Shabbs "antagonizes" you. 

Other than posting 'His Truth' I fail to see him as antagonistic towards anyone. 

The issue here isn't about whatever everyone considers truth but what Truth really is. And what is truth? For me 'Truth' can ONLY BE FOUND IN JESUS CHRIST.  For others Truth is an entirely different matter. And for those 'others' my truth is not only heresy but must be silenced even if by death.  

This is where free speech crosses over into Fascism. When I chose to silence your truth because I believe it threatens me. That behavior will not stop until all others opinions are eliminated. 

 

I took an oath at 19 years of age to protect and defend the constitution of America. The right of "FREE SPEECH" being a centerpiece of our Constitution. Whether or not I agree with or like what someone says is irrelevant. We all are free to think and speak as we choose.  

ONLY when someone crosses over from "Free speech" to the place of violating my rights given me by God and expressed in the Constitution do I Reserve the right to defend myself. 

Someone's WORDS have no power over me whatsoever. 

 

It's easy to blend the words of people like Shabbs with the actions of political people who would steal an election and the desire to retaliate is strong. But Shabbs is not the kind of person who would do such a thing. Shabbs would NEVER violate your own God given rights. 

Blaming Shabbs for the actions of others through blending his opinions with evil peoples actions is simply not right. We here at Dinar Vets are better than that. 

 

Whereas, we should consider why someone like Shabbs believes what he does. Shabbs, like each of us, is simply the product of his environment. He receives his information from a few MSM outlets, most likely because of trust issues. If you or I were from the same environment we would most likely be just like Shabbs. 

So rather than remove him from the discourse I prefer to interact with him. Doing so gives way to change on both sides. 

 

I appreciate your continued support of free speech and for the right to use it, I do.....My name keeps getting thrown around and everybody seems to have a personal opinion of me, mostly bad, and for that I'm embarrassed.  That said, brother, you can be sure I won't forget what you have said and done here....I do implore you though to let it go, as it will only come back to bite you, for you being who you are you'll ride this issue to the end, get yourself all worked up, and possibly lose some of your allies in the process.  Don't let that happen.  It's really okay, as I've gotten the point of this thread....Nobody wants to be that guy, and yet here I am.  I'll continue to be me, toned down a bit, and as long as Adam, through his good graces, allows me a forum to post, I will.....My only suggestion to those offended is, if you really want to judge me, at least have the decency to read my posts, as opposed to drawing your conclusions second hand.

 

GO RV, then BV 

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2 hours ago, Synopsis said:

Past a cursory assessment, the stakes are too high to let personal privileges or personal indulgences rule over Truth, Decency, Reason, AND (of course) Common Sense in a common area or forum.

 

Skewed and baseless responses are the typical or preferred method to attempt to hinder the progress or usage of Truth, Decency, Reason, AND (especially) Common Sense with the specific intent to silence completely...

 

 ...History has repeatedly shown what happens when individuals and groups of people give way and tolerate little or great affronts on Truth, Decency, Reason, AND (especially) Common Sense.

 

Will You respond to the call?

These main points --thank you Synopsis.   

 

A VIP Politics group is a great idea and I hope that Adam considers it.

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1 hour ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said:

My friend show me where Shabbs "antagonizes" you. 

 

First, I must say I REALLY appreciate You. LadyGrace'sDaddy.

 

I respectfully ask You to consider how the path was ALL laid.

 

Please review my file.

 

@NAKS summed it ALL up quite well above.

 

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Obviously, FAR MORE CONCISE THAN WHAT I AM PRONE TO VERBALIZE!!!

 

:o   :o   :o

 

:lmao:    :lmao:    :lmao:

 

As concise as I can be HERE:

 

Those who pee in the public punch bowl should reasonably anticipate being punched by members of the public who otherwise enjoy untainted punch.

 

- Synopsis

 

TRUTH AND ALL!!!

 

Pee is a biological waste and has body toxins that can and do produce adverse effects in those who consume said biological waste.

 

Those who knowingly introduce biological waste into public materials for consumption are bioterrorists.

 

Well, OK, I am NOT a vegan while the noted statement, based on the Four (4) Textual Cornerstones, is indisputable.

 

My experience has been when an inch is NOT occupied in a common area, THEY (to be clear - the Snowflake And Buttercup Idiot Brigade Volunteer Forces) TAKE OVER the inch THEN FURTHER TAKE OVER a Personal Mile AND hold OTHERS responsible for maintaining the OTHER person's MILE in the favor of the Snowflake And Buttercup Idiot Brigade Volunteer Forces "whims" "screaming" BLOODY MURDER IF SOMEONE MAKES THEM FEEL "micro" "agressions".

 

 

New Trump Pee Meme Memes | Ive Memes, Peed on Memes, First Black Memes

 

Well, OK, SOME public punch bowl MUST be peed in.

 

See previous posts for WHY, prayed AND told, THEY do NOT want to punch ME for peeing in THEIR punch bowl of Graft AND Corruption ALL IN THE NAME OF Freedom Of (Vulgar) Speech!!!

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1 hour ago, Shabibilicious said:

 

I appreciate your continued support system" rel="">support of free speech and for the right to use it, I do.....My name keeps getting thrown around and everybody seems to have a personal opinion of me, mostly bad, and for that I'm embarrassed.  That said, brother, you can be sure I won't forget what you have said and done here....I do implore you though to let it go, as it will only come back to bite you, for you being who you are you'll ride this issue to the end, get yourself all worked up, and possibly lose some of your allies in the process.  Don't let that happen.  It's really okay, as I've gotten the point of this thread....Nobody wants to be that guy, and yet here I am.  I'll continue to be me, toned down a bit, and as long as Adam, through his good graces, allows me a forum to post, I will.....My only suggestion to those offended is, if you really want to judge me, at least have the decency to read my posts, as opposed to drawing your conclusions second hand.

 

GO RV, then BV 

As you wish, I will let it go. Believe me, I already know that the right people see what's happening. 

As for Adam allowing you to post, far be it for me to speak for our ILLUSTRIOUS LEADER but I would bet my life that he values what you bring to the table greatly.  You're in no danger here. :tiphat:

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1 minute ago, Shabibilicious said:

 

So....save my money?  :eyebrows:

 

GO RV, then BV

 

Absolutely.

 

Also, thanks for the convincing argument against a political section in the VIP room :lol: 

 

I don't need the headaches. 

 

And on that note, I'm unsubscribing from this thread. Because I don't want it to take more of my time.

 

Mods, lock away, ban people at will, and if there's nobody to ban today... maybe roll some dice and pick a member at random :lol: 

 

:peace: 

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1 minute ago, Adam Montana said:

 

Absolutely.

 

Also, thanks for the convincing argument against a political section in the VIP!" rel="">VIP room :lol: 

 

I don't need the headaches. 

 

And on that note, I'm unsubscribing from this thread. Because I don't want it to take more of my time.

 

Mods, lock away, ban people at will, and if there's nobody to ban today... maybe roll some dice and pick a member at random :lol: 

 

:peace: 

 

Noted, boss.  B)  

 

GO RV, then BV  

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1 hour ago, Adam Montana said:

 

Absolutely.

 

Also, thanks for the convincing argument against a political section in the VIP!" rel="">VIP room :lol: 

 

I don't need the headaches. 

 

And on that note, I'm unsubscribing from this thread. Because I don't want it to take more of my time.

 

Mods, lock away, ban people at will, and if there's nobody to ban today... maybe roll some dice and pick a member at random :lol: 

 

:peace: 

Oh, to be a moderator today 😄☺️☺️

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