dinardiggerisme Posted November 6, 2020 Report Share Posted November 6, 2020 The recounts probably won't be too tough. 12 areas were sent ballots with glow in the dark (blacklight?) watermark, blockchain etc. security. The deep state morons apparently printed many ballots (as usual). They walked into the trap again. Reminds me of catching mice. Bait 4 traps and line em up side by side. 4 dead mice in the traps the next morning. None of them realize the situation and stick their head in the trap. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shabibilicious Posted November 6, 2020 Report Share Posted November 6, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, dinardiggerisme said: The recounts probably won't be too tough. 12 areas were sent ballots with glow in the dark (blacklight?) watermark, blockchain etc. security. The deep state morons apparently printed many ballots (as usual). They walked into the trap again. Reminds me of catching mice. Bait 4 traps and line em up side by side. 4 dead mice in the traps the next morning. None of them realize the situation and stick their head in the trap. Who made the black light watermark ballots again? Are they official ballots from the manufacturer of ballots? I mean, I got to vote for county sheriff...the next county over got to vote for their own sheriff....United States wide, that's a lot of different ballots to mark "officially" with black light watermarks. GO RV, then BV Edited November 6, 2020 by Shabibilicious 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
md11fr8dawg Posted November 6, 2020 Report Share Posted November 6, 2020 10 minutes ago, dinardiggerisme said: The recounts probably won't be too tough. 12 areas were sent ballots with glow in the dark (blacklight?) watermark, blockchain etc. security. The deep state morons apparently printed many ballots (as usual). They walked into the trap again. Reminds me of catching mice. Bait 4 traps and line em up side by side. 4 dead mice in the traps the next morning. None of them realize the situation and stick their head in the trap. As much as I would love to see this be true and the corrupt (either side) get caught redhanded actually cheating, it does seem far fetched that anyone thought ahead enough to actually put this plan in motion. Great idea, but how do you pull it off without either side knowing. Do you have any concrete proof of this happening? I am hoping that by the next election blockchain will be used for voting and that it can and will prevent ANY shenanigans at all, just one vote, one person. But then you would have to have some type voter ID and the Rats will never allow that. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinardiggerisme Posted November 6, 2020 Report Share Posted November 6, 2020 I don't have any inside info Shabs. Thinking Trump was able to drain the DHS. they were in charge w no leaks..? The vote cheating needs to stop, whoever is doing it. Biden draws 50 folks for a rally, Trump draws thousands 5 times in one day. But Joe is beating or tied with Don? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shabibilicious Posted November 6, 2020 Report Share Posted November 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, dinardiggerisme said: I don't have any inside info Shabs. Thinking Trump was able to drain the DHS. they were in charge w no leaks..? The vote cheating needs to stop, whoever is doing it. Biden draws 50 folks for a rally, Trump draws thousands 5 times in one day. But Joe is beating or tied with Don? The fact that anything can be found on the net....or that Donald has 80 million plus twitter followers should tell you that Joe can virtually rally, safe and responsibly, and reach just as many people as Donald does at his in-person super spreader rallies by just sitting in front of a camera. Why do you think Donald holds his impromptu press conferences at 6:30 in the evening?...so he can reach as many Americans who watch the nightly news as possible, that's why. GO RV, then BV 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Dinar Posted November 6, 2020 Report Share Posted November 6, 2020 I don't understand the fraud thing. If someone cheated to beat Trump, why would they still vote for republicans on the ticket. Republican senators, congressmen and local politicians were elected in states Trump lost. If you were going to cheat on a ticket, wouldn't you take out as many of the opposition as possible? It doesn't make sense. JMHO 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinardiggerisme Posted November 6, 2020 Report Share Posted November 6, 2020 I love to watch Joe at the rally's.. incoherent, looks to be straining to see something while speaking. Refused to take a drug test or be checked for cheating devices before the debate, and still made a fool of himself, in my opinion. The voting is over, or is it? Let's see what happens. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinardiggerisme Posted November 6, 2020 Report Share Posted November 6, 2020 I don't know JD.. Thinking the marked ballots (if true and not pipe dream) we're only sent to areas thought to be important areas that might cheat. It's not every ballot. Think they were able to cheat me easy enough here with the old sharpie v ink pen trick? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caddieman Posted November 6, 2020 Report Share Posted November 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, dinardiggerisme said: I love to watch Joe at the rally's.. incoherent, looks to be straining to see something while speaking. Refused to take a drug test or be checked for cheating devices before the debate, and still made a fool of himself, in my opinion. The voting is over, or is it? Let's see what happens. The voting was over Tuesday. The counting goes on today. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyLadiesDaddy Posted November 6, 2020 Report Share Posted November 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Shabibilicious said: I'm simply saying when we're discussing a topic and it turns to personal attacks against members it's wrong. It says right in the forum rules to be respectful of each other. GO RV, then BV Point to what you are accusing Yota of attacking B/A. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Dinar Posted November 6, 2020 Report Share Posted November 6, 2020 16 minutes ago, caddieman said: The voting was over Tuesday. The counting goes on today. Yes and it will go on for a while. Votes aren't certified for a couple weeks and there will be recounts for sure. So people need to wait. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adhoc10 Posted November 6, 2020 Report Share Posted November 6, 2020 On 11/4/2020 at 4:28 AM, ladyGrace'sDaddy said: This is ridiculous, it's time for martial law, or flat out civil war. YEAH!!!!! I said it. Time to do something about the evil that is among us. Evil is an integral part of the human condition and therefore our history. It is common knowledge that evil lurks in the minds of men. It expresses itself with anger, hatred, and a general condition of lower emotional intelligence. The country may need some corrections, but is your only solution a nuclear one? Is there anything in your life that you would not regret losing?? Better to throw the baby out with the bathwater?? I'm sorry you are so angry . https://www.bing.com/search?q=lower+emotional+intelligence&form=ANNTH1&refig=a6885912eb0248ef80a1b257f466d385&sp=1&ghc=1&qs=SC&pq=lower+emotions&sk=PRES1&sc=1-14&cvid=a6885912eb0248ef80a1b257f466d385 signs of low emotional intelligence Quick to judge. Having a limited understanding of the emotions of others (and of your own) can mean that you jump to... It’s difficult to handle criticism. Let’s be honest, no one likes criticism. However, the more self-aware you are,... Listening is hard. A failure to listen to the opinions and thoughts of others could... 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shabibilicious Posted November 6, 2020 Report Share Posted November 6, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said: Point to what you are accusing Yota of attacking B/A. Not accusing Yota of anything......Just saying when a post (in general, not specifically by yota, or you, or me, or Johnny) is all about calling out a poster and not the subject of the thread....it becomes personal, and levels of the attack vary from post to post. Nothing more, nothing less. It's as if this election has everybody so jacked up, that the prospect of banishment for simple everyday comments is heightened. This is just my point of view. GO RV, then BV Edited November 6, 2020 by Shabibilicious 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyLadiesDaddy Posted November 6, 2020 Report Share Posted November 6, 2020 13 minutes ago, Shabibilicious said: all about calling out a poster and not the subject of the thread....it becomes personal It's called enforcement of the rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davis411 Posted November 6, 2020 Report Share Posted November 6, 2020 25 minutes ago, adhoc10 said: It is common knowledge that evil lurks in the minds of men. Uhhhh You haven’t met my wife yet 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adhoc10 Posted November 6, 2020 Report Share Posted November 6, 2020 1 minute ago, davis411 said: You haven’t met my wife yet Sorry Davis, I meant that as a generic reference. I wasn't Inferring a gender specific reference. Evil is an equal opportunity phenomenon Are you enjoying the unfolding show provided by our election process??? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boosterbglee Posted November 6, 2020 Report Share Posted November 6, 2020 I see.......bad ballots thrown out before certification.....that’s why no one is calling it! Just my opinion to quite my friend😊 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shabibilicious Posted November 6, 2020 Report Share Posted November 6, 2020 42 minutes ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said: It's called enforcement of the rules. Enforcement of the rules is great....living by them is also essential. Just my respectful opinion. GO RV, then BV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adhoc10 Posted November 6, 2020 Report Share Posted November 6, 2020 2 hours ago, Shabibilicious said: Biden draws 50 folks for a rally, Trump draws thousands 5 times in one day. But Joe is beating or tied with Don? Obviously, the people that were still thinking stayed at home. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yota691 Posted November 7, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2020 22 hours ago, Shabibilicious said: is all about calling out a poster and not the subject of the thread in·teg·ri·ty the quality of being honest and having strong moral principles; moral uprightness. JD started to preach about Integrity and wanting to give advice. Preaching about Integrity when one lack the meaning, I'll pass and call it out, I didn't change the subject. You and your side kick are always spinning the subject, when the narrative doesn't fit, then you want to call it debate. which is far from debate but hate especially when it come to the subject of Trump... 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theseus Posted November 7, 2020 Report Share Posted November 7, 2020 Here is a tip to start from, research Dominion Software. It is the software used by many states and counties. Software is not infallible and only does what it is programmed, by Humans, to do. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Theseus Posted November 7, 2020 Report Share Posted November 7, 2020 Michigan County Clerk Discovers Total Votes Counted by “Election Software” DID NOT MATCH Printed Tabulator Tapes! By Jim Hoft Published November 5, 2020 at 8:02amEmail So this is happening. An election clerk in Michigan discovered that the total votes counted by election software DID NOT MATCH the printed tabulator tapes. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theseus Posted November 7, 2020 Report Share Posted November 7, 2020 Election Program ‘Issue’ Tallied Only 2 Votes for GOP Candidate, 33 MI Counties Thought To Be Using the Same Software By Jared Harrid, Western Journal, November 5, 2020: An apparent issue with the election infrastructure in one Michigan county resulted in a Republican candidate having a tally of only two votes Wednesday. Now, it’s been revealed that the program at fault could be in use in dozens of other counties across the state. The discrepancy was discovered Wednesday morning in Antrim County, according to Michigan’s Interlochen Public Radio. Triston Cole, a Republican state legislator, cited the fact that Representative Jack Bergman received only two votes, according to county tabulations. “I can guarantee that there were 6 [Bergman votes] in my immediate family alone,” Cole told IPR. TRENDING: Rev. Franklin Graham Responds to Potential Efforts To ‘Steal’ the Election by ‘the Enemies of God’ Election results posted to the county website have been taken down since the discrepancy was found. “Early this morning, the Antrim County Clerk, Sheryl Guy, became aware of apparently skewed results in the Unofficial Election Result tabulations,” county officials said on their Facebook page. “Since then, the Clerk’s Office has been reviewing the results and the multiple redundancies to search out any possible discrepancies. Staff is currently working with township officials and with Election Source, the company that provides the voting software programs and hardware.” According to WPBN-TV, Guy said the vote totals on printed tabulator tapes and totals counted by the election software did not match. The printed tabulated tapes from each precinct will be counted manually as a result. According to KXXV-TV anchor Joe Gumm, the Antrim County Clerk’s Office is now in the process of reviewing over 16,000 ballots cast in the county. Even worse for the integrity of elections in Michigan, the program used to conduct voting in Antrim County is reportedly being used in 33 other counties across the state. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theseus Posted November 7, 2020 Report Share Posted November 7, 2020 Major Deficiencies found in Software report From the State of Colorado in 2008 (0bummer's first election, so you cannot blame this on Russia, Russia, Russia) https://www.sos.state.co.us/pubs/elections/VotingSystems/files/2008/ESSMajorDeficienciesReport.pdf Voting Systems Testing Board Major Deficiencies Report: Election Systems & Software (ES&S) February 15, 2008 Executive Summary The enactment of House Bill 08-1155 provides the Secretary of State (Secretary) with increased authority over the testing process and allows for additional testing and communication with the vendors and counties by this office. The legislation allows for an order to decertify a voting system to be amended or rescinded if it is determined that the major deficiencies have been resolved or mitigated. As part of the decision to amend or rescind an order, HB1155 allows the Secretary to consider the “accuracy and security procedures, audits, processing functions, and other relevant procedures used by county clerks and recorders in accordance with the laws and rules governing the conduct of elections.” This report by the Testing Board addresses the major deficiencies identified by the Secretary in his order on December 17, 2007 (December 17 decision) decertifying the ES&S voting equipment. This report explains the additional information provided and additional testing that has occurred since the December 17 decision, and demonstrates that the decertified components are able to overcome the major deficiencies outlined in the December 17 decision. Testing Board Findings The ES&S Unity software, the M100 precinct scanner, the M650 central count optical scanner, and the iVotronic Direct Record Electronic (DRE) voting machine were all decertified by the Secretary for use in the State of Colorado. The major deficiencies identified were failure to detect election programming changes and errors; inability to determine if tabulation software worked correctly; inability to complete testing threshold of 10,000 ballots due to vendor programming errors; system vulnerable to security attack; and failure to provide auditable data to detect security violations. Unity Software The major deficiencies identified with the Unity software relate to the inability to “lock down” the database at a given point in time preventing changes to the system. The Testing Board has created a process, as outlined in the Conditions for Use section of the “Election Systems & Software Voting Systems Project Overview – A.3.”, to create a secured copy of the database to be the only “trusted” county database to be used. At specific times Holly Z. Lowder Director of Elections STATE OF COLORADO Department of State 1700 Broadway Suite 250 Denver, CO 80290 Mike Coffman Secretary of State 2 during the election process (Logic & Accuracy Testing, Memory Card Upload, Post Election Audit, and Canvass) the operators of the system will be required to use the secured copy of the database for election processing. The process, when used in concert with county security procedures, will mitigate the system’s failure to detect programming changes and errors and failure to provide auditable data necessary to detect security violations. M100/M650 Optical Scanners When the Testing Board began testing the optical scanners submitted for certification by ES&S, they discovered that the programming ES&S provided did not match the physical ballot definitions and therefore could not be used to test the scanners. Throughout the certification process the Testing Board communicated with ES&S to resolve the programming issue. ES&S provided at least five (5) sets of programming and three (3) sets of ballots, none of which were compatible with one another. Because ES&S did not provide the correct programming and ballots, the Testing Board was unable to complete testing the scanners, including tabulation of 10,000 ballots as required by Secretary of State Election rules within the deadlines set forth for the testing process. ES&S provided new programming and ballots that were compatible with one another. In late December 2007, the Testing Board began processing ballots with the new programming in an effort to complete testing. The tabulation of the 10,000 ballot threshold was successfully completed and verified as accurate. iVotronic DRE During the testing relating to the December 17 decision, the Testing Board discovered that by introducing a magnet into the area designed for the Personalized Electronic Ballots (PEB) the system could be powered down. This created the major deficiency of the system being vulnerable to a security attack. The iVotronic DRE uses an infrared serial port to communicate with the PEB. The iVotronic hardware contains a magnetic reed switch which allows communication with the PEB. Along with the specific data necessary to identify the type of PEB being used, the PEB also contains a magnet which activates the appropriate reed switch inside the iVotronic. The Testing Board found that the token activation system of the PEB process can be easily defeated. In response, the Testing Board has proposed a solution to mitigate each of these problems in the Conditions for Use section of the “Election Systems & Software Voting Systems Project Overview – A.3.”. The following list identifies the possible consequences of a PEB port attack: Prematurely Cast or Cancel Ballot – When a magnet is inserted into the PEB slot, it can result in a ballot being cast prematurely or cancelled. In particular, the voter may be presented with a non-voting screen asking the voter to cancel or cast the ballot. The machine then resets for next voter without loss of votes or other data. 3 Reboot (power cycle) terminal – When a magnet is inserted into the PEB slot while pressing the vote button, the machine may power on/off the voting terminal between voters. A voter could, after successfully voting, power down the device. Upon power-up of device, which may also be accomplished by use of a magnet, instances of stack dump errors and other unrecoverable errors have occurred causing denial of service for the device. In the testing that was conducted by the Testing Board, there was not a finding that any votes or other data was lost or modified. Unauthorized Recalibration – An unauthorized recalibration may be implemented by any supervisor programmed PEB; no password is required and the ability is specific to county or election specific data. Operators are capable of entering the calibration screen using a foreign Supervisor PEB, such as one purchased on the open market, from another jurisdiction, or a home made PEB emulator. The screen can be calibrated so that touching a desired point would be recorded by the machine as a touch at a different location. This could cause voter input for one candidate and selection recorded for a different candidate. During testing, the calibration was changed such that upon entering vote mode with the correct PEB, workers inadvertently closed polls. This type of attack causes denial of service. In response to the security risk associated with the introduction of a magnet to the PEB port, the Testing Board recommends that a cover be placed on the DRE to mitigate the possibility of a malicious attack. The Testing Board reviews and tests voting systems based on a standard of strict compliance. This means that any voting system that fails one test will not be recommended for certification. However, the Secretary’s decision to certify or decertify a system is based upon the legal standard of substantial compliance pursuant to § 1-1-103, C.R.S. Factors to be considered under the substantial compliance standard include the extent of noncompliance with the Election Code and the purpose of the provision(s) violated and whether or not that purpose may be achieved despite the violation. The information listed in the “Election Systems & Software Voting Systems Project Overview – A.3”, the amended Project Overview binder, set forth the necessary conditions to be fulfilled in order for such equipment to be used should the Secretary certify the system for use in the State of Colorado. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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