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THIS THREAD IS FOR PRO-TRUMPERS TO HAVE A RESPECTFUL, CIVIL CONVERSATION ABOUT AN IMPORTANT ISSUE. 

 

NEVER TRUMPERS, PLEASE DON'T BRING YOUR DIVISIVENESS AND ANIMOSITY INTO THIS.  THANK YOU!A 

 

I like to listen to all Trump's rallies when I can because he occassionally drops an important tidbit of information.  And he dropped a humdinger tidbit yesterday.  This is one of 2 Trump rallies from yesterday, this is the first one in Prescott AZ.  Start listening at the 2 hour 15 minute mark, and listen for the next 1.5 minutes - until 2:16:30.  Trump's talking about Biden and then he mentions AG Bill Barr.  Listen now and then read my take on it below (inderneath the youtube video) after you've listened to it yourself first - without any preconceived ideas about what Trump is hinting at.
 
 
 
 
When he says Barr is a very nice man who doesn't want to hurt anyone, he's explaining why Barr didn't arrest Biden weeks ago.  So I, as one of many (including Trump, apparently) who are continually frustrated by the lack of high-level indictments/arrests, think Trump is saying nothing will happen with Biden, either, because Barr is nice and doesn't want to hurt him.  But geeze Louise, Barr is the AG of the US and I can't imagine he'd let his "niceness" interfere with him performing his job.  So in trying to figure this out, I got the idea that maybe Barr is contacting Biden right now and telling him, "You need to pull out of the election and we'll handle this quietly.  If not, I'm gonna have to expose you to the world".  That way Barr still performs his job, but does so in a kind way by giving Biden the chance to minimize his pain (public outrage, scorn and shame).  And it would be better for the country not to have all this exposed - not just for Americans, but the rest of the world because it would be so embarrassing for the US and damage its reputation. This level of hidden corruption and debauchery (Hunter's sex/pedo tapes) is so shocking it would undoubtedly rock the world, let alone destabilize 1/2 of Americans who thought their leaders were decent human beings.  Biden has canceled all activities until the debate Thursday night, where it's likely Trump will confront him about Hunter's laptop (now proven to belong to Hunter) if the moderator doesn't.  So starting Thursday night, I don't think Biden will be able to hide from this anymore.  My guess - and hope - is that Biden, will announce, between now and Thursday night, that he's withdrawing from the election.  This would be unprecedented and I don't even know how that would work.  But these are unprecedented times and between the recent revelations that Hillarious invented the Russian collusion story to take attention away from her emails, and now Hunter's laptop, along with other corroborating emails from other sources, that expose that Joe Biden was using his office to get millions (billions) of dollars from foreign governments - which he funneled through his relatives, I think Biden is caught and won't be able to escape.  And I really don't think he can last 2 more weeks until the election. What did other people think when you listened to this?
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53 minutes ago, KristiD said:

THIS THREAD IS FOR PRO-TRUMPERS TO HAVE A RESPECTFUL, CIVIL CONVERSATION ABOUT AN IMPORTANT ISSUE. 

 

NEVER TRUMPERS, PLEASE DON'T BRING YOUR DIVISIVENESS AND ANIMOSITY INTO THIS.  THANK YOU!A 

 

I like to listen to all Trump's rallies when I can because he occassionally drops an important tidbit of information.  And he dropped a humdinger tidbit yesterday.  This is one of 2 Trump rallies from yesterday, this is the first one in Prescott AZ.  Start listening at the 2 hour 15 minute mark, and listen for the next 1.5 minutes - until 2:16:30.  Trump's talking about Biden and then he mentions AG Bill Barr.  Listen now and then read my take on it below (inderneath the youtube video) after you've listened to it yourself first - without any preconceived ideas about what Trump is hinting at.
 
 
 
 
When he says Barr is a very nice man who doesn't want to hurt anyone, he's explaining why Barr didn't arrest Biden weeks ago.  So I, as one of many (including Trump, apparently) who are continually frustrated by the lack of high-level indictments/arrests, think Trump is saying nothing will happen with Biden, either, because Barr is nice and doesn't want to hurt him.  But geeze Louise, Barr is the AG of the US and I can't imagine he'd let his "niceness" interfere with him performing his job.  So in trying to figure this out, I got the idea that maybe Barr is contacting Biden right now and telling him, "You need to pull out of the election and we'll handle this quietly.  If not, I'm gonna have to expose you to the world".  That way Barr still performs his job, but does so in a kind way by giving Biden the chance to minimize his pain (public outrage, scorn and shame).  And it would be better for the country not to have all this exposed - not just for Americans, but the rest of the world because it would be so embarrassing for the US and damage its reputation. This level of hidden corruption and debauchery (Hunter's sex/pedo tapes) is so shocking it would undoubtedly rock the world, let alone destabilize 1/2 of Americans who thought their leaders were decent human beings.  Biden has canceled all activities until the debate Thursday night, where it's likely Trump will confront him about Hunter's laptop (now proven to belong to Hunter) if the moderator doesn't.  So starting Thursday night, I don't think Biden will be able to hide from this anymore.  My guess - and hope - is that Biden, will announce, between now and Thursday night, that he's withdrawing from the election.  This would be unprecedented and I don't even know how that would work.  But these are unprecedented times and between the recent revelations that Hillarious invented the Russian collusion story to take attention away from her emails, and now Hunter's laptop, along with other corroborating emails from other sources, that expose that Joe Biden was using his office to get millions (billions) of dollars from foreign governments - which he funneled through his relatives, I think Biden is caught and won't be able to escape.  And I really don't think he can last 2 more weeks until the election. What did other people think when you listened to this?


Thank You, KristiD!!!

 

Along with Former Admiral William McRaven’s recently publicized support of Uncle Creepy Hiden Joe Biden, wonder how accurate and close to “execution” THIS ALL “is”!!!

 

Looks like THEE DEEP “throat” STATE IS ABOUT TO TAKE A HUGE HIT!!!

 

YYYEEEAAAHHH BBBAAABBBYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Maybe Former Admiral William McRaven was complicit with the 9/11 missile strike on the Pentagon that KILLED Americans.

 

IF (AND I SAY IF!!!) HANG THEM ALL HIGH PUBLICLY AND IMMEDIATELY IF NOT SOONER!!!

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11 hours ago, KristiD said:

Barr is a very nice man who doesn't want to hurt anyone

I heard Barr say when asked if anyone would go to jail and his response was "it depends on who wins the election."

 

It is just my opinion but I think BB is compromised.

 

BB, GHWB and Muller were / are friends.

 

Remember the Iran-Contra Affair - and Caspar W and other GHWB "friends"?

 

Maybe a coincidence, but BB father Don was the headmaster a Dalton School where good ol' jeffrey Epstein became a "professor".

 

Wouldn't you know, BB let JE "kill himself" on his watch. Didn't the  Warden get promoted after the mishap?

 

Check out a picture from the past:

 

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Yeah and remember Ruby Ridge?

 

I still don't like how that all went down. BB was involved there too.

 

Wasn't BB (AKA Robert Johnson) involved in the AK drug deals? 

 

I have a hard time that Mr Trump hired the guy.

 

BB and the C_A go way back. In fact didn't BB say that o and biden are not under investigation?

 

I think that the doj is in cover-up mode and really hopes Mr Trump will be thrown out and that will be that.

 

What about comey, mccabe, rosenstein, page, struck, etal?

 

What about hunter? I read that hunter was texting his ol' man that he was "facing" a 14 year old.

 

Hopefully Rudy will shed more light on the subject.

 

Then there is Pelosi's son, Kerry's son and romney's top advisor and the Ukrainian/Burisma deals?

 

Didn't BB say he wanted fisa reauthorization without reforms?

 

I think bb is a double agent deep state slime rat.

 

I hope that Mr Trump is re-elected and he fires bb on down.

 

Maybe I just had a tough day and just took it out on bb.

 

Peace,

 

Come on RV

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Very interesting.  I have always believed Trump was crazy like a fox, and his words were calculated.  To have been so vocally angry at Barr a few days earlier and then say this definitely makes you wonder what is going on behind the scenes. 

 

Details about that laptop are dropping every hour it seems.  I just saw a report that a young girl on the laptop was a member of the Biden family (may or may not be true).  Steve Bannon said the depravity was sickening.

 

You may be right, Kristi.  Barr might be going to Biden to save the family from this embarrassment.  They can still pursue the Ukraine, China, and Iran involvement.

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Kristi it's always interesting to watch those wheels in your head turn.....interesting spin that has some real possibilities.....especially if Biden really has any say about the race... 

 

Perhaps though Joe is just a place card....placed by the DNC....with the thought the Statesman had the best chance of beating the Wildman...

 

I doubt the DNC gives a Rat's A$$ about Joe Bidens personal life or reputation...."just win baby" in the words of Al Davis......what ever it takes...

 

2020 has been a crazy year for so many reasons.....could it even get crazier?.......Probably.....   CL

 

More later.......

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11 hours ago, yota691 said:

I heard today the swamp draining and what on the bottom is showing itself. 

 

Would be nice if THEE "toilet" would FLUSH SOON!!!

 

Get the most vile and bottom most dwellers out in ONE FELL SWOOP!!!

 

Honestly, my opinion is THESE Swamp Dwellers AND Bottom Feeders ARE PUPPETEERED BY OTHER FOREIGN ENTITIES!!!

 

So, I am THANKFUL for EO13848 Imposing Certain Sanctions in the Event of Foreign Interference in a United States Election

 

https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2018/09/14/2018-20203/imposing-certain-sanctions-in-the-event-of-foreign-interference-in-a-united-states-election

 

Hey LOOKIE HERE AT THIS CRAZY CRAP!!!

 

These nine swing states will see the biggest ‘blue shift’ as ballots are counted after the election

David Lazer, Jonathan Green, Matthew A. Baum, Alexi Quintana Mathé, Katherine Ognyanova, Adina Gitomer, James Druckman, Matthew Simonson, Hanyu Chwe, Roy H. Perlis, Jennifer Lin, Mauricio Santillana  2 hrs ago 
These nine swing states will see the biggest ‘blue shift’ as ballots are counted after the election.
 
 

President Trump has repeatedly decried voting by mail as rife with “tremendous potential for voter fraud,” encouraging Republicans to “fight very hard” against it. Nevertheless, given the pandemic, many more voters than usual are expected to cast their ballots by mail in the 2020 general election, with those mail-in ballots disproportionately cast by Democrats. In some states, ballots cast on Election Day will be easier to count immediately, while mail-in ballots are tabulated later. If in-person ballots are disproportionately cast by Republicans and mail-in ballots disproportionately cast by Democrats, some states’ results may undergo a “blue shift” — shifting further toward the Democratic candidate over time. Our research finds nine states most likely to undergo a “blue shift,” which in some cases might be quite significant. 

%7B“I Voted” stickers at a polling station in Doral, Fla., where people cast early votes Monday. (Joe Raedle/Getty…

Unprecedented numbers of Americans are likely to vote by mail

For the past six months, the COVID-19 Consortium for Understanding the Public’s Policy Preferences Across States has used PureSpectrum to administer monthly or twice-monthly surveys of about 20,000 Americans in all 50 states on their attitudes and behaviors related to the coronavirus pandemic. Respondents were recruited online with demographic quotas for each state; results were reweighted to state and national benchmarks by race, gender, age, education and geography (urban, suburban or rural residence). 

In our August and September waves, almost 40 percent of likely voters said they are very likely to vote by mail this year. An additional 19 percent said they are somewhat likely to do so. In 2016, roughly 21 percent of all ballots were cast by mail. Of likely voters who identify as Democrats, 51 percent said they are very likely to vote by mail this year, compared with just 26 percent of Republican likely voters. 

Our polling suggests that Democrats are more worried about the pandemic and more likely to want to avoid in-person voting, much as other studies have found. 

Do you usually vote by mail? A lot of Republicans who do will no longer say so.
This could make for a complicated election night

The possibility that a greater proportion of Republicans’ votes will be counted on election night has prompted some observers to worry about a “red mirage,” in which Trump appears to be ahead on election night in enough states to seem to have 270 electoral votes — but after all the ballots are counted, Joe Biden wins. 

Combining our August and September surveys, we find Biden leading Trump among likely voters by 10 percentage points, 50 percent to 40 percent. But among voters who say they are very unlikely to vote by mail, Trump beats Biden, 68 percent to 23 percent. If we leave out those who say they’re very likely to vote by mail, Trump wins by 50 percent to 39 percent. 

What might that mean for each candidate? If the pandemic surges in critical Republican strongholds over the next few weeks, likely Trump voters might stay home. But for procedural reasons, votes by mail may be less likely to be counted — a particular risk for those who usually vote in person — which might disproportionately hurt Democrats. 

Either way, Biden’s margin in any given state will almost certainly improve as more mail-in ballots are counted. That won’t be true in all states; some, like Florida, start processing and counting mailed-in ballots well before Election Day. But 10 states do not begin processing mailed-in ballots before Election Day. Eighteen others (including D.C.) accept mailed-in ballots after Election Day if appropriately postmarked. We estimate that most states could be counting at least 6.5 times as many by-mail votes than in 2016. Given all this, we can expect some delays in definitive results. 

Trump is running for reelection as a 'strongman,' promising protection from anarchy. Here's why that might not work.
 

What does that mean?

We found nine states where a “blue shift” is potentially consequential: Alaska, Michigan, Nevada, New Hampshire, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Texas and Wisconsin. These nine meet two criteria. First, they are competitive. Second, they don’t process all mailed-in ballots before Election Day, or they accept postmarked ballots after Election Day. 

We then used our survey data for each of these states to see the likely election night results — leaving out voters who say they’re somewhat or very likely to vote by mail — and compare that with the results once we do include the likely by-mail voters. That gives us an estimate of the likely “blue shift” in each state, as you can see in the figure below. 

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For example, in Alaska you can see a 16 percentage point difference in vote margins between likely voters who are unlikely to vote by mail and likely voters as a whole. This means that the difference between Trump's and Biden's vote totals on election night and once all ballots are counted could be as much as 16 percentage points. 

That’s the smallest such difference among our nine states. We found the largest in Nevada, where the difference is more than 60 percentage points. In the three key battlegrounds of Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania — the states that tipped the election in 2016 — these differences are 55, 43 and 36 points, respectively. 

For instance, if the shift in Wisconsin is about half that ceiling of 43 points (because they have counted about half of the mailed-in ballots), then Trump could have a 10-point lead on election night — but a roughly 10-point victory by Biden in the days after. 

It is important to keep these possible shifts in mind, especially for Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, which do not process any mail-in ballots before Election Day. 

To be clear, the actual margins will probably shift less than what our chart shows. Not everyone who says they are likely to vote by mail will do so. For instance, concerns about the reliability of the U.S. Postal Service combined with the president’s repeated challenges to mail-in voting may prompt some who intended to vote by mail to instead opt for early in-person voting. Many mail-in ballots, in turn, will be counted on Election Day. But we expect a big shift. 

Major news outlets’ decision desks will be aware of this likely shift, while many viewers will not. Given the tensions surrounding this election, journalists, pundits and voters alike may wish to keep in mind that if a candidate declares victory on election night, that lead may evaporate as more votes are counted. 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/these-nine-swing-states-will-see-the-biggest-blue-shift-as-ballots-are-counted-after-the-election/ar-BB1afNng?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=mailsignout

 

 

I have been having problems uploading the images so best to use the link to the article.

 

ALL THIS to say, mail in ballots ARE A MAJOR SOURCE OF ELECTION CORRUPTION!!!

 

THIS ARTICLE CLEARLY PROPAGANDIZES THEE POPULOUS FOR THEE INTENDED "blue" "shift".

 

Yes, ONE ACTUAL VOTE FOR EACH ACTUAL The United States Of America Citizen.

 

NO ELECTION CORRUPTION!!!

 

I watched Election Night 2016 AND the Wednesday THEREAFTER to see marginal House Of Representative Districts turn from Red to Blue.

 

:facepalm3:   :facepalm3:   :facepalm3:

 

 :shakehead:     :shakehead:     :shakehead:

 

Ballot Harvesting.

 

YEP!!!

 

Desperately, THEE Marxist, Socialist, Communist, Nazist, Facist, Progressive LEFT IS PUTTING THEE "ballot" "harvesting" ON STEROIDS.

 

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!

 

November 4, 2020 IS WHEN THEE PRELIMINARY Electoral College IS SET PENDING CONFIRMATION OR AUGMENTATION OF THE INFORMATION AND SUBSEQUENT ACTIONS OF EO13848 - NOT BALLOT HARVESTING!!!

 

True The Unites States Of America Patriots - UNITE!!!

 

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15 hours ago, bigwave said:

It is just my opinion but I think BB is compromised.

 

I agree that this is an issue.  I knew about his dad and some of his past connections and I've never fully trusted him.  That said, I've been watching him and he does seem to genuinely be trying to do a good job.  But the lack of progress and indictments remains a big concern.  I guess we'll have to wait and see.  For sure Trump has been too trusting sometimes and some people he's trusted have betrayed him badly.  But since he's recently voiced concerns about Barr and then he just said what he said, and also cryptically said, "I'm only going to say this once", I think he's hinting that more is going on that we realize and is implying Barr is a "good guy". Trump seems to now almost be admiring Barr, and I think that's significant.  And the more I think about it, the more I'm sure it would be far better for the US if Barr could get Biden to bow out gracefully and only disclose part of all the crimes that were committed.  I think the full truth will shock the average American to the core and that many people won't be able to process that.  Plus, it would be a huge loss of US credibility for the rest of the world and I think Trump wouldn't want that.  

 

I guess it remains to be seen if the MSM, including social media, will be able to ignore this such that the subject falls out of importance.  Although, Steve Bannon is handling the gradual release of info and as he metes it out slowly, it's keeping people interested.  He's saying there's even more shocking stuff to come, so I like to think chances are good that this will take Biden down.  Whether that will happen by Thursday, I don't know.  But I guess that as long as it happens soon and we don't end up a new, corrupt, democratic president, I'll be happy.  

 

And as to whether Joe Biden, himself, has the ability to drop out out of the race, I think he does.  People turn on their bosses all the time, so I don't see why this would be any different.  And even though Joe may not truly realize what's going on, I'm pretty sure his wife Jill does.  And according to emails from Hunter's laptop - both Joe and Jill got keys to one of the foreign corporation's (that paid millions to Hunter) offices, so I think she's pretty deeply involved with the corruption herself.  Jill seems pretty sharp to me and I think she'd do whatever she can to protect not only Joe, but herself and the rest of her family.  Making a deal with the feds is probably the best, and maybe only, way to do that.  Like most crooks, I'm sure she wouldn't hesitate to turn on other corrupt DC politicians if it benefited her.  Barr might be leveraging the Bidens to get even more evidence against the rest of the DC swamp.  Wouldn't that would be awesome!   🤞:praying:🤞🤞

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9 minutes ago, KristiD said:

 

I agree that this is an issue.  I knew about his dad and some of his past connections and I've never fully trusted him.  That said, I've been watching him and he does seem to genuinely be trying to do a good job.  But the lack of progress and indictments remains a big concern.  I guess we'll have to wait and see.  For sure Trump has been too trusting sometimes and some people he's trusted have betrayed him badly.  But since he's recently voiced concerns about Barr and then he just said what he said, and also cryptically said, "I'm only going to say this once", I think he's hinting that more is going on that we realize and is implying Barr is a "good guy". Trump seems to now almost be admiring Barr, and I think that's significant.  And the more I think about it, the more I'm sure it would be far better for the US if Barr could get Biden to bow out gracefully and only disclose part of all the crimes that were committed.  I think the full truth will shock the average American to the core and that many people won't be able to process that.  Plus, it would be a huge loss of US credibility for the rest of the world and I think Trump wouldn't want that.  

 

I guess it remains to be seen if the MSM, including social media, will be able to ignore this such that the subject falls out of importance.  Although, Steve Bannon is handling the gradual release of info and as he metes it out slowly, it's keeping people interested.  He's saying there's even more shocking stuff to come, so I like to think chances are good that this will take Biden down.  Whether that will happen by Thursday, I don't know.  But I guess that as long as it happens soon and we don't end up a new, corrupt, democratic president, I'll be happy.  

 

And as to whether Joe Biden, himself, has the ability to drop out out of the race, I think he does.  People turn on their bosses all the time, so I don't see why this would be any different.  And even though Joe may not truly realize what's going on, I'm pretty sure his wife Jill does.  And according to emails from Hunter's laptop - both Joe and Jill got keys to one of the foreign corporation's (that paid millions to Hunter) offices, so I think she's pretty deeply involved with the corruption herself.  Jill seems pretty sharp to me and I think she'd do whatever she can to protect not only Joe, but herself and the rest of her family.  Making a deal with the feds is probably the best, and maybe only, way to do that.  Like most crooks, I'm sure she wouldn't hesitate to turn on other corrupt DC politicians if it benefited her.  Barr might be leveraging the Bidens to get even more evidence against the rest of the DC swamp.  Wouldn't that would be awesome!   🤞:praying:🤞🤞

I just don’t think Biden would bow out , I think he truly believes he’ll win the election and then make it all go away , the scary thing is if by chance he does win he CAN  wash it away and maybe BB plans on helping him with that situation .  

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Hmmm this makes me think of when the dems were at the time meant when they were touting “share the wealth. “  only time can tell how much longer will the good part of America will survive. I’m hoping the govt. doesn’t send dems to Mars. There would be mass mayhem if they do. An sure enough when they go , guns will go too even tho they say no there won’t any be going. The military drivers called commanders will be sure they will retain control over the colony , in the end once humans leave earth , they will control their own destiny, and all on earth can hoot an Hollar all they want , while we just watch human travel to others worlds succeed or fail. I’m hoping for the human race to survive. And at 70 yo I won’t live to see it . Good luck planet earth.

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Maybe Biden can last through the election but even if he does, I am feeling much more confidentend today about Trump winning.  Here's why 

 

1) Trump just recently started saying he believes he's going to win and he admits he wouldn't have said that 3 weeks ago.  Trump doesn't often say things that don't come true.

 

2) Huge, last minute turn outs -10's of thousands of people - at all of Trump's rallies, while Biden gets 7-15 people only.

 

3) Trump rally attendess shouting "I love you" in unison to Trump.  As far as anyone knows, that has NEVER happened to any candidate.  Additionallly thousands particpate in boat parades for Trump and 10's of thousands participate in car parades for Trump.  There are also motorcycle and big rig truckers doing parades.  I don't think we've ever seen that before either. This tells me Trump's support is much, much great than anyone realizes. 

 

4) This article show's Biden is in deep trouble.  I think Steve Bannon is strategically releasing more and more damning info against Biden and today I'm losing confidence that Joe can last another 12 days.   https://dinarvets.com/forums/index.php?/forum/53-politics-2nd-amendment-gun-control/ 

 

5) this 3 minute clip explains why the polls are likely very wrong (that along with the fact that most poll takers are biased and favoring dem participates to be polled)   https://video.foxnews.com/v/video-embed.html?video_id=6203849305001

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Thought we might kick start this one back up.... CL 

 

There are many reasons Trump will win.....the much maligned by the MSM Jared Kushner is one of them.
 
Kushner is a stay in the background guy....but take a few minutes and watch and listen. 
 
Trump has many surrounding him with this caliber of brilliance.....
 
Not to mention a team of 2.5 million very qualified campaign workers working with his staff of 2000 ......working for Trumps reelection.
 
 
"Iron sharpens Iron"
 
Start:
 
At 3:15 mark
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Sleepy Joe thinks he's running against "George"....watch the video....Jill...under her breath corrects him 3 times before he re-mentions Trump....   CL

 

BIDEN:  ......."Honey.....where's that football....I want to play some catch"....

 

And there goes the World as we know it...

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8878991/Joe-Biden-appears-confuse-Trump-Bush-calls-president-George-virtual-rally.html

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