Trump: Americans Who Died in War Are ‘Losers’ and ‘Suckers’

[new york kevin]

I just do not trust any story with "Anonymous" sources anymore. Thanks to the dossier that led to Spygate .

Edited September 5, 2020 by new york kevin

[Shelley]

43 minutes ago, mikedeason said:

 

The Radical RIGHT would have attacked them with everything?  You must be confused between left and right.

 

It's the Radical LEFT that's attacking Congress members and their spouses publicly, sometimes physically (see Rand Paul).

Mrs Jobs owner of the newspaper contributed over $600,000 to Biden campaign and you think there is no Bias !!!! I’ve always believed I’m gullible but I have to say you got me beat there !!!

Edited September 5, 2020 by Shelley

[KristiD]

On 9/4/2020 at 1:43 PM, caddieman said:

I don’t know. It fits right in his narrative. He called John McCain a loser. Trump gets no benefit of the doubt with me. 

 

Really?  You think Trump hates the military?  Is that why he's pulling them out of foreign countries and foreign wars?  Is that why he got them a HUGE pay raise that no other president did?  Is that why he gve them Veteran's choice so that when the line is too long at the Vet hospital they can go to another doctor and that doctor will get reimbursed by the Veterans Admnistration?  Is that why he personally goes to the military base of fallen soldiers to recieve their dead bodies and personally writes or speaks to their families?  What about the people who were actually with the President at that time who say that this IS NOT WHAT HAPPENED?  These people, and they're not all Trump supportors, have no problem giving their names.  You think with 95% of the mainstream media news giving Negative Coverage to Trump, that someone needs to be afraid of saying something bad about him? Just the tiniest bit of research repeatedly debunks this clearly false anonymous claim.  I don't buy it for a second.  But I can see an obvious motive for spreading this lie... Biden is losing support like crazy and now has to come out and blantantly change his position on major topics.  This past week be finally acknowledged that rioting and looting is wrong (but how can anyone except the rioters and looters ever think anything other than that in the first place? and now is backpeddling on his precious Green New Deal now saying fracking is okay.  He and his croonies reek of desperation (and for good reason).  Sadly, we can expect nothing less than more of these anonymous lies until November 3.   

 

caddieman, I doubt you're open to any other point of view but your own and you're entitled to be that way.  But for the love of God, other people, please wake up!!  We are all being had!!  Communists have been infiltrating our schools for generations under the guise of socialism, and it was Lenin who famously admitted that "the goal of socialism is communism".   This explains why so much of our youth is clueless, incredibly fragile and easily triggered, and still lives at home with their parents who take care of them.  Recently we learned that Marxists are behing Black LIves Matter and all donations on their site go to the democratice party (just go to BLM and click DONATE - the next page it admits that the money goes to ActBlue, a domocratic organizaion),  ie hiden' Biden, because I don't think there's any explanation for the $300 Million he pulled in from donations last month.  And just recently we discovered our federal government has paid a socialist $5 Million to teach our government workers Critical Race Theory and that America is a racist, horrible country and all white people are inherantly racist and can never change.  The goal is to keep us fighting amongst ourselves so we eventually turn to the government to protect us at any cost.  They promise to do so but first we must give up our rights - one by one, starting with guns and the right to bear arms (just ask Venzuelans today how that has worked out for them), and then ultimately our Constitution.   Here's the playbook.....  It all starts with lies.  As Hitler famously said, make it a big lie and repeat it often.  Pay attention to the last 2 paragrpahs below.  History always repeats itself....  people just need to objectively look at what's happening.

 

the leftist mainstream media spreading the vicious lie that President Trump called American soldiers who had died in war “suckers” and “losers”—leftist media lies instantly joined by millions-of-dollars of socialist Democrat Party campaign ads spreading this filth even further—that have now been joined by leftist media articles blaring such headlines as “After Report That Trump Disparaged War Dead, Democrats See Chance to Win Over Military Voters”, “How Many Insults Will Service Members And Military Veterans Take From Trump?” and “It’s Time for Trump’s Generals to Go on the Record”—all of which are based on provable lies, as so attested to by actual Trump-hater John Bolton, who was in the meetings where President Trump was anonymously said to have made these remarks, and in his book exactly detailed the truth of what occurred:

Marine One’s crew was saying that bad visibility could make it imprudent to chopper to the cemetery.

The ceiling was not too low for Marines to fly in combat, but flying POTUS was obviously something very different.

If a motorcade was necessary, it could take between ninety and a hundred and twenty minutes each way, along roads that were not exactly freeways, posing an unacceptable risk that we could not get the President out of France quickly enough in case of an emergency.

It was a straightforward decision to cancel the visit but very hard for a Marine like Kelly to recommend, having originally been the one to suggest Belleau Wood… Trump agreed, and it was decided that others would drive to the cemetery instead.

 

 

In the decades following World War II, this report further notes, historians sought diligently to discover the reasons as to why the German peoples fell under the spell of the National Socialist German Workers' Party (aka Nazi Party) and its genocidal socialist leader Adolf Hitler—and in discovering what happened, saw them all attributing what occurred to the “Big Lie”—a term invented by Hitler to mean “If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed”—and to its power on the masses saw Hitler writing: “In the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods”.

Equally discovered by historians about socialist leader Adolph Hitler and his Nazi Party, this report details, was that while using their “Big Lie” tactics against the unsuspecting German people, they melded it with the defense mechanism “Psychological Projection” in which the human ego defends itself against negative unconscious impulses or qualities by denying their existence in themselves while attributing them to others—and when the Nazi Party took full control over their nation’s entire media establishment and entertainment industry, saw these socialists pummeling the minds of the German people daily with “Big Lie” and “Psychological Projection” tactics in order to destroy every enemy and institution that stood in their way to total power.

Frightful discoveries, this report concludes, that put the world on alert as to what to watch for in a nation before another socialist leader like Hitler and his Nazi Party were able to gain power again—and today sees this occurring with socialist leader Joe Biden and his Democrat Party—who exactly like Hitler and the Nazis, have taken over their nation’s media establishment and entertainment industry to pummel the American people daily with “Big Lie” and “Psychological Projection” tactics—all of which are aimed at their mortal enemy President Trump, who knows these vile monsters well and has vowed to his citizens that “America will never be a socialist country”—a vow sane peoples the world over hope President Trump can keep—and believe he can if his citizens awaken to the grave danger they’re truly facing and start defending themselves before all is lost for them.

 

[nstoolman1]

In before the bone spur comments. 

J. McCain military P.O.W experiences can not be disparaged.

His political life on the other hand I question very much. 

 

 

[mikedeason]

4 hours ago, Pitcher said:

Some of the Dems favorite political tactics are the following 

 

1. Attack the opposition with things he cannot defend.  For example.  Hey Trump, we heard from an an anonymous source that you beat your wife every Thursday.  Of course Trump denies it and the next day there are stories in all the papers and websites that read, Trump denies beating his wife on Thursdays.  If he doesn’t answer the question it looks like he is hiding something.  

 

2.  Keep telling the same lies over and over.  The more it is stated the more some will actually believe it is true.  Like the Russian Collusion Story, Quid PronQuo, and Kavanaugh raping women 35 years ago.  Any lie can plant a seed of doubt.  That’s the goal

 

3.  If caught at something that is against the law Deflect, Deny, and Attack the opposition.  

 

Wasn't it Saul Aulinsky (sp?) who said to accuse your opponents of the very illegal or lowhanded things you yourself do?

[caddieman]

7 hours ago, coorslite21 said:

 

So you are going with the anonymous sources....good deal......would have expected nothing less......

 

I heard that if Biden is elected he will be whisked away by Aliens right after it is exposed that he is the KKK as well as the son of Adolf Hitler...and my sources are really good....higher up insiders of the DNC and CNN...

 

See how you sound....and what you are choosing to fall for....

 

Now......you still interested in that swamp land I have for sale in Arizonia?

 

CL

 

 

Heard that from a Fox News guest in a report on air. So if Fox News lying too?.........hummmm!

[caddieman]

8 hours ago, coorslite21 said:

 

So you are going with the anonymous sources....good deal......would have expected nothing less......

 

I heard that if Biden is elected he will be whisked away by Aliens right after it is exposed that he is the KKK as well as the son of Adolf Hitler...and my sources are really good....higher up insiders of the DNC and CNN...

 

See how you sound....and what you are choosing to fall for....

 

Now......you still interested in that swamp land I have for sale in Arizonia?

 

CL

 

 

I didn't hear that," Bolton told The New York Times. "I'm not saying he didn't say them later in the day or another time. 
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/515132-john-bolton-says-he-didnt-hear-trump-insult-fallen-soldiers-in-france

[boosterbglee]

More lies🙀.  Grow up!

[mikedeason]

11 hours ago, KristiD said:

 

Really?  You think Trump hates the military?  Is that why he's pulling them out of foreign countries and foreign wars?  Is that why he got them a HUGE pay raise that no other president did?  Is that why he gve them Veteran's choice so that when the line is too long at the Vet hospital they can go to another doctor and that doctor will get reimbursed by the Veterans Admnistration?  Is that why he personally goes to the military base of fallen soldiers to recieve their dead bodies and personally writes or speaks to their families?  What about the people who were actually with the President at that time who say that this IS NOT WHAT HAPPENED?  These people, and they're not all Trump supportors, have no problem giving their names.  You think with 95% of the mainstream media news giving Negative Coverage to Trump, that someone needs to be afraid of saying something bad about him? Just the tiniest bit of research repeatedly debunks this clearly false anonymous claim.  I don't buy it for a second.  But I can see an obvious motive for spreading this lie... Biden is losing support system" rel="">support like crazy and now has to come out and blantantly change his position on major topics.  This past week be finally acknowledged that rioting and looting is wrong (but how can anyone except the rioters and looters ever think anything other than that in the first place? and now is backpeddling on his precious Green New Deal now saying fracking is okay.  He and his croonies reek of desperation (and for good reason).  Sadly, we can expect nothing less than more of these anonymous lies until November 3.   

 

caddieman, I doubt you're open to any other point of view but your own and you're entitled to be that way.  But for the love of God, other people, please wake up!!  We are all being had!!  Communists have been infiltrating our schools for generations under the guise of socialism, and it was Lenin who famously admitted that "the goal of socialism is communism".   This explains why so much of our youth is clueless, incredibly fragile and easily triggered, and still lives at home with their parents who take care of them.  Recently we learned that Marxists are behing Black LIves Matter and all donations on their site go to the democratice party (just go to BLM and click DONATE - the next page it admits that the money goes to ActBlue, a domocratic organizaion),  ie hiden' Biden, because I don't think there's any explanation for the $300 Million he pulled in from donations last month.  And just recently we discovered our federal government has paid a socialist $5 Million to teach our government workers Critical Race Theory and that America is a racist, horrible country and all white people are inherantly racist and can never change.  The goal is to keep us fighting amongst ourselves so we eventually turn to the government to protect us at any cost.  They promise to do so but first we must give up our rights - one by one, starting with guns and the right to bear arms (just ask Venzuelans today how that has worked out for them), and then ultimately our Constitution.   Here's the playbook.....  It all starts with lies.  As Hitler famously said, make it a big lie and repeat it often.  Pay attention to the last 2 paragrpahs below.  History always repeats itself....  people just need to objectively look at what's happening.

 

the leftist mainstream media spreading the vicious lie that President Trump called American soldiers who had died in war “suckers” and “losers”—leftist media lies instantly joined by millions-of-dollars of socialist Democrat Party campaign ads spreading this filth even further—that have now been joined by leftist media articles blaring such headlines as “After Report That Trump Disparaged War Dead, Democrats See Chance to Win Over Military Voters”, “How Many Insults Will Service Members And Military Veterans Take From Trump?” and “It’s Time for Trump’s Generals to Go on the Record”—all of which are based on provable lies, as so attested to by actual Trump-hater John Bolton, who was in the meetings where President Trump was anonymously said to have made these remarks, and in his book exactly detailed the truth of what occurred:

Marine One’s crew was saying that bad visibility could make it imprudent to chopper to the cemetery.

The ceiling was not too low for Marines to fly in combat, but flying POTUS was obviously something very different.

If a motorcade was necessary, it could take between ninety and a hundred and twenty minutes each way, along roads that were not exactly freeways, posing an unacceptable risk that we could not get the President out of France quickly enough in case of an emergency.

It was a straightforward decision to cancel the visit but very hard for a Marine like Kelly to recommend, having originally been the one to suggest Belleau Wood… Trump agreed, and it was decided that others would drive to the cemetery instead.

 

 

In the decades following World War II, this report further notes, historians sought diligently to discover the reasons as to why the German peoples fell under the spell of the National Socialist German Workers' Party (aka Nazi Party) and its genocidal socialist leader Adolf Hitler—and in discovering what happened, saw them all attributing what occurred to the “Big Lie”—a term invented by Hitler to mean “If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed”—and to its power on the masses saw Hitler writing: “In the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods”.

Equally discovered by historians about socialist leader Adolph Hitler and his Nazi Party, this report details, was that while using their “Big Lie” tactics against the unsuspecting German people, they melded it with the defense mechanism “Psychological Projection” in which the human ego defends itself against negative unconscious impulses or qualities by denying their existence in themselves while attributing them to others—and when the Nazi Party took full control over their nation’s entire media establishment and entertainment industry, saw these socialists pummeling the minds of the German people daily with “Big Lie” and “Psychological Projection” tactics in order to destroy every enemy and institution that stood in their way to total power.

Frightful discoveries, this report concludes, that put the world on alert as to what to watch for in a nation before another socialist leader like Hitler and his Nazi Party were able to gain power again—and today sees this occurring with socialist leader Joe Biden and his Democrat Party—who exactly like Hitler and the Nazis, have taken over their nation’s media establishment and entertainment industry to pummel the American people daily with “Big Lie” and “Psychological Projection” tactics—all of which are aimed at their mortal enemy President Trump, who knows these vile monsters well and has vowed to his citizens that “America will never be a socialist country”—a vow sane peoples the world over hope President Trump can keep—and believe he can if his citizens awaken to the grave danger they’re truly facing and start defending themselves before all is lost for them.

 

 

My wife will tell you that I've been saying for quite some time now that our nation stands in much the same position as Germany in 1933, Hitler's first year as Chancellor, when Joseph Goebbels and the Ministry of Propaganda was establishing its power and monopoly over the German press and radio.

 

We're to the place where Kamala Harris, the Democrat candidate for Vice President, says the violent riots and protests are not going to stop and that "they SHOULDN'T stop" ....

 

And does the MSM call her out for this? No they don't.

 

Unbelievable.

[md11fr8dawg]

18 hours ago, caddieman said:

not what he said. Said he did not hear it while he was around the President. But he was not around him 24/7

 

Yeah, probably said it in his sleep caddieman. And the very idea that you think the right lies and trashes anyone who says anything bad about Trump, makes me laugh. If you have not noticed what the left does to ANYONE who disagrees with their narrative of "Orange Man Bad", "socialism good" then your head is so far up your but you cannot breathe.

[mikedeason]

10 hours ago, caddieman said:

Heard that from a Fox News guest in a report on air. So if Fox News lying too?.........hummmm!

 

Major media sources sometimes change their editorial outlook.

 

Drudge report did this some months back and I know this because I used to go to their website every day, sometimes twice a day.

 

Then they suddenly changed.  Whereas they had been posting articles that were 90+% pro-Trump they reversed course and are lately virtually 100% anti-Trump.

 

I read where Trump somehow made Matthew Drudge angry, so he changed his slant on Trump news.

 

Not saying this is what has happened with Fox but it wouldn't be unprecedented.

[caddieman]

10 hours ago, mikedeason said:

 

Major media sources sometimes change their editorial outlook.

 

Drudge report did this some months back and I know this because I used to go to their website every day, sometimes twice a day.

 

Then they suddenly changed.  Whereas they had been posting articles that were 90+% pro-Trump they reversed course and are lately virtually 100% anti-Trump.

 

I read where Trump somehow made Matthew Drudge angry, so he changed his slant on Trump news.

 

Not saying this is what has happened with Fox but it wouldn't be unprecedented.

Could be we will have to wait and see!👍

[mikedeason]

18 minutes ago, caddieman said:

Could be we will have to wait and see!👍

 

No telling what we'll see between now and Election Day.

[MyLadiesDaddy]

 

[yota691]

As expected this was all a Lie, The Hate Everything Trump and Hate America Party has been played again. Lies that make Folks look Foolish and Prove who has all the Hate. Trump 2020 MAGA 4 more years of crying...

[nstoolman1]

I have heard several MSM talking heads and Trump haters make the statement" Why do we keep doing this to ourselves"

It was said in response after they found out the Covington kid was innocent and Russia collusion was not proven. They jump at the first chance to fry Trump without first checking the evidence. 

[Artitech]

On 9/8/2020 at 3:52 AM, ladyGrace'sDaddy said:

 

President Trump would never say, what the DemoRats are accusing  him of saying! About veterans! As a veteran I have witnessed the change in the attitude of the personal at the VA! This Army Hero said with his on mouth he did NOT authorize the DemoRats to use his picture! I wished he would sue the hell out of Biden and his co conspirators for using his picture without his  permission! I don’t know how many people remember the obama and O’biden’s VA . I damn sure Do! VA personal in Phoenix,AZ and other locations were so sorry & miserable, that they would not call a funeral Director to come pick up the bodies of our veteran’s that had pass awayed , to have a proper burial. Instead these criminals left  the veterans bodies decomposing in body bags till they exploded in the refrigerated storage at the hospital creating a biological disaster! Needing haz mat teams to come in and decontaminate the area where the bodies were supposed to been there no more than 48 hrs! Biden is a Sorry no good despicable human being! There is no compromise with DemoRats, on number of different issues! One I will never compromise on is the murder of babies! PERIOD! JMHO! 

[Johnny Dinar]

9 minutes ago, Artitech said:

President Trump would never say, what the DemoRats are accusing  him of saying!

 

He did say he didn't like people who were captured... How about you? How do you feel about POWs?

 

He did say his military advocates war to benefit the companies who make bombs and planes. Do you think our generals care more about the business end than the politicians? Who gets the PAC money?

 

He said he fired Mad Dog, because he did a bad job and over rated.... Do you agree Mad Dog is not a good leader?

 

I don't like to admit it, but he has said some bad things about our military leaders... The best military leaders the world has to offer...

 

JMHO

 

 

[Artitech]

2 minutes ago, Johnny Dinar said:

 

He did say he didn't like people who were captured... How about you? How do you feel about POWs?

 

He did say his military advocates war to benefit the companies who make bombs and planes. Do you think our generals care more about the business end than the politicians? Who gets the PAC money?

 

He said he fired Mad Dog, because he did a bad job and over rated.... Do you agree Mad Dog is not a good leader?

 

I don't like to admit it, but he has said some bad things about our military leaders... The best military leaders the world has to offer...

 

JMHO

 

 

I will admit John McCain was a war hero! He was a POS as a senator! He had the opportunity to be a hero in the senate, he chose to sell the American people out on obama care, when he had the opportunity to protect us from this miserable despicable piece of legislation! What McCain did as a POW was heroic! I think President Trump had the McCain affair to do differently he would! I think Mad Dog was a great Marine General! In his case he was put into a position, based on his record as General, that he was not qualified for! Generals give orders and are not used to taking orders from civilians. I guess I must have been asleep or something, as I have not heard President Trump say anything disparaging against our military leaders!  These are areas of compromise! The DemoRats support the murder of babies and I don’t! Period! President Trump doesn’t support the murder of babies! Period! JMHO!🤠

[md11fr8dawg]

I have Never flown with a Navy pilot that knew McCain, that had Anything good to say about him. And that encompasses a flying career of over 43 years and more than 3 airlines. He was just like he was as a senator (all about John). He got where he did because daddy and (I believe) his Grandfather were both Admirals. He dumped his first wife and kids on returning from Vietnam and married the rich gal whose Dad owned a Budweiser distributorship in AZ. My feelings on McCain, I would not urinate on his guts if they were on fire. JMHO.

[Sage449]

Deleted, response to an anti-Trumper thoughtless and I don't need to denigrate. 

Edited September 14, 2020 by Sage449
thoughtless

[MyLadiesDaddy]

10 hours ago, Johnny Dinar said:

 

He did say he didn't like people who were captured... How about you? How do you feel about POWs?

 

He did say his military advocates war to benefit the companies who make bombs and planes. Do you think our generals care more about the business end than the politicians? Who gets the PAC money?

 

He said he fired Mad Dog, because he did a bad job and over rated.... Do you agree Mad Dog is not a good leader?

 

I don't like to admit it, but he has said some bad things about our military leaders... The best military leaders the world has to offer...

 

JMHO

 

 

Sad thing is you don't even realize that you just explained what the Deep state and Military industrial complex is. 

John McCain is and always was a spoiled little Bit@h, and a traitor. Mattis is and always will be a Deep state, Military industrial complex rat. And most of the Military leaders at the Pentagon are too. 

The Generals leading our AWESOME troops in the field are the real leadership. Anyone who has actually served their country knows this. 

Only a silly little college indoctrinated idiot would paint the Pentagon leadership in with the rest of the real troops. 

[Shabibilicious]

On 9/6/2020 at 7:24 AM, md11fr8dawg said:

 

Yeah, probably said it in his sleep caddieman. And the very idea that you think the right lies and trashes anyone who says anything bad about Trump, makes me laugh. If you have not noticed what the left does to ANYONE who disagrees with their narrative of "Orange Man Bad", "socialism good" then your head is so far up your but you cannot breathe.

 

At the very least some of you hardened Trump supporters are starting to refer to him as "orange", inferring that you're listening, even cracking....which is nice.  

 

GO RV, then BV 

[md11fr8dawg]

Not cracking Shabs, making fun of all the TDS out there on the left. BIG difference!!

[Johnny Dinar]

3 hours ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said:

Sad thing is you don't even realize that you just explained what the Deep state and Military industrial complex is. 

John McCain is and always was a spoiled little Bit@h, and a traitor. Mattis is and always will be a Deep state, Military industrial complex rat. And most of the Military leaders at the Pentagon are too. 

The Generals leading our AWESOME troops in the field are the real leadership. Anyone who has actually served their country knows this. 

Only a silly little college indoctrinated idiot would paint the Pentagon leadership in with the rest of the real troops. 

 

You are the most unjolly Santa I've ever met... I served in the U.S. Army, but you should already know that, because I told you that last week. If I remember correctly, our President gave Mattis the nickname Mad Dog because he was so great... But like anyone who disagrees, they become the Deep State.... The conspiracy and fear running amuck in America is pretty sad... America is and will be the greatest country on the planet. People who try to destroy it with dumb conspiracies are the real problem. Qanon and those idiots are more dangerous than a bunch of protesters burning a village could ever be... Those Deep State conspiracy pushers are just doing the job for China and Russia and they are too caught up in their fantasy world to realize it... It really won't change America's greatness if Trump or Biden wins... Good always wins out over evil. And the evil passed on by social media fools will succumb.... JMHO