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Mr Trump suggested voters vote once in person and a second time by post, in order to stress-test the system.

The president has frequently made false claims that postal votes are vulnerable to significant electoral fraud.

"Let them send it in and let them go vote," he told North Carolina broadcaster WECT-TV on Wednesday.

"And if the system is as good as they say it is then obviously they won't be able to vote (in person)."

After President Trump made the comments, North Carolina Attorney General Josh Stein tweeted that he had "outrageously encouraged" people in the state to "break the law in order to help him sow chaos in our election".

https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-54011022

 

Somebody needs to send the White House a letter and tell them it is absolutely illegal for Trump to insight this behavior much less the people who due it will get arrested. Yep another great example of what a leader we have!🤮

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42 minutes ago, Shabibilicious said:

Trump needs to create voter fraud so he can claim voter fraud......that's how his crazy mind works.

 

GO RV, then BV

 

No reason to invent something that already exist. 

Cross checking mail in with in person voting is a good thing, unless a person is for voter fraud. 

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8 minutes ago, nstoolman1 said:

 

No reason to invent something that already exist. 

Cross checking mail in with in person voting is a good thing, unless a person is for voter fraud. 

 

I can almost hear the cries from Trump already....."Look!!  All these people voted twice!!!...This election is fraudulent!!!"  He literally thinks his base is that stupid....and who knows, maybe some of them will take him up on the it and vote twice, get pinched, say Trump told them to, and still end up in the slammer.  It will be no skin off Donald's nose....he will have accomplished his mission and if some of his base had to be sacrificial lambs to further his tenure, so be it.....That's who he is and who he has always been.  

 

GO RV, then BV

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25 minutes ago, nstoolman1 said:

 

No reason to invent something that already exist. 

Cross checking mail in with in person voting is a good thing, unless a person is for voter fraud. 


Telling people to commit voter fraud is not cross checking. Cross checking is making sure there is no voter fraud before the election.

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20 minutes ago, Shabibilicious said:

 

I can almost hear the cries from Trump already....."Look!!  All these people voted twice!!!...This election is fraudulent!!!"  He literally thinks his base is that stupid....and who knows, maybe some of them will take him up on the it and vote twice, get pinched, say Trump told them to, and still end up in the slammer.  It will be no skin off Donald's nose....he will have accomplished his mission and if some of his base had to be sacrificial lambs to further his tenure, so be it.....That's who he is and who he has always been.  

 

GO RV, then BV


Shabs we know there will be some dumb ass’s that do just that. Probably the same people that injected themselves with bleach when he said it might help! And the funny thing is it will all be Trump supporters trying to commit voter fraud.........Like we say You can’t make this stuff up

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21 minutes ago, nstoolman1 said:

Again, your distain for Trump is showing. You ignored what I said and went straight to insulting Trump. 

 

 

I didn't insult him at all.....I simply pointed out who he has proven himself to be over the decades....his track record of self-service to himself at the expense of others is well documented.  Duped is duped....as proof the Trump women of the suburbs have begun to have serious buyer's remorse.

 

GO RV, then BV 

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6 hours ago, Shabibilicious said:

 

GO RV, then BV  

 

Watch the whole clip....you can cut a sound bite to enhance your position.....which is what was done here......the question was why are you worried about the mail in ballots.....he was explaining that if the system was so good no one could circumvent it....perhaps his people might test out... 

That lying, misleading MSM....at it again......CL

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32 minutes ago, coorslite21 said:

 

Watch the whole clip....you can cut a sound bite to enhance your position.....which is what was done here......the question was why are you worried about the mail in ballots.....he was explaining that if the system was so good no one could circumvent it....perhaps his people might test out... 

That lying, misleading MSM....at it again......CL


Lame CL lame. He said mail in your vote then on Election Day go down and try to vote. Which is totally illegal period. Even if your trying to(test it out) that is against the law it’s that simple. If Clinton said that you would be going Ape 💩

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4 hours ago, caddieman said:


Lame CL lame. He said mail in your vote then on Election Day go down and try to vote. Which is totally illegal period. Even if your trying to(test it out) that is against the law it’s that simple. If Clinton said that you would be going Ape 💩

You are right if you are taking what Trump said out of context to the whole conversation......watch the tape.....pretty self explanatory!

 

As to HRC....never gave a rats a$$ about anything she said.....just about how she broke the laws of the land!

CL

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4 minutes ago, caddieman said:

 

Here's some interesting data points:

1) 10% of Republicans will not tell pollsters who they are voting for

 

2) 10% of Independents will not tell pollsters who they are voting for

 

3) 5% of Democrats will not tell pollsters who they are voting for

 

I think I know who they will vote for, and it ain't 'Hiden Biden'! 

 

Indy

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15 hours ago, coorslite21 said:

 

Watch the whole clip....you can cut a sound bite to enhance your position.....which is what was done here......the question was why are you worried about the mail in ballots.....he was explaining that if the system was so good no one could circumvent it....perhaps his people might test out... 

That lying, misleading MSM....at it again......CL

 

I suggest Trump put his money where his mouth is....he should mail in his ballot to Florida and then show up in person and vote.  Show the law abiding citizens how it's done.  Heck, have his whole administration do the same.. set the standard of rule of law.

 

GO RV, then BV 

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Trump’s vote-twice comments outrage media, which amplify his message

 

So why did the president of the United States do it?

 

Why did Donald Trump, in broad daylight, with cameras rolling, suggest that the good people of North Carolina vote twice?

 

He knew full well that this would cause a media freakout, that journalists and pundits would rise up in unison and denounce him for promoting such a blatantly illegal act.

 

And that was precisely the point.

 

Had Trump merely issued his 130th warning about mail ballot fraud, it wouldn’t have made much news, maybe one paragraph in a story. But he knows from long experience that when he crosses the line, goes over the top, the resulting furor can last several days, even a week, getting the media and political world chattering about the very issue he wants to spotlight.

 

If he takes heat, if he has to backtrack, so be it. That still means lots of cable segments and front-page stories about the possibility of mail fraud as opposed to, say, a thousand Americans dying each day from Covid-19.

 

Now I’m not defending the outrageous suggestion that Americans somehow test the system by voting twice. (Or why stop there, maybe five times.) I just don’t think Trump is serious. He has a well established pattern of saying questionable things to push a broader narrative, in some cases admitting privately he’s changing the subject from some other controversy. He is trolling the press.

 

Here are the president’s exact words to Jon Evans of North Carolina’s WECT:

 

“Well they'll go out and they'll vote, and they're going to have to go and check their vote by going to the poll and voting that way, because if it tabulates, then they won't be able to do that. So, let them send it in and let them go vote, and if the system is as good as they say it is, obviously they won't be able to vote. If it isn't tabulated, they'll be able to vote so that's the way it is. And that's what they should do.”

 

He repeated a similar message last night in Pennsylvania.

 

I haven’t found anyone, including on Fox News, defending this maneuver. In fact, when Sandra Smith pressed Kayleigh McEnany on why Trump made the comments, the press secretary said he wasn’t suggesting people do anything illegal but to make sure their mail ballot was tabulated--and if not, go vote. “He wants verification,” she said.

 

The second round, as these things spread across the cableverse, was when Bill Barr appeared on CNN.

 

When Wolf Blitzer said it sounds like “Trump is encouraging people to break the law and try to vote twice,” the attorney general replied: “Well, I don’t know exactly what he was saying, but it seems to me what he’s saying is he’s trying to make the point that the ability to monitor this system is not good.”

 

When Wolf pressed again, Barr said he didn’t know the law in that particular state, but that the whole mail-ballot system is like “playing with fire.”

 

That formulation--that Barr doesn’t know the specifics but here’s why Trump is right on the larger point--is one the AG used more than once in the CNN interview. (He said Trump was speaking “colloquially,” not using a legal term, when he accused Barack Obama and Joe Biden of “treason.”)

 

This touched off a fresh wave of attacks on Barr by pundits on CNN and MSNBC, giving the story legs.

 

Trump knows how to push the media’s buttons. In a memo leaked to the New York Post, he ordered federal agencies to look into cutting off funding to such cities as New York, Washington, Portland and Seattle that “allow themselves to deteriorate into lawless zones.” This brought an unusually harsh counterattack from Andrew Cuomo, who said Trump would need an “army” to protect him if he were to walk down New York City streets.

 

Now I don’t believe the feds will end up terminating this aid, any more than the administration slashed aid to schools that don’t physically reopen, as Trump threatened earlier. But it’s another way for him to appear strong by vowing to retaliate against those grappling with urban violence.

 

In the meantime, anyone who follows the Trump suggestion about voting more than once does so at his or her own risk.

 

*****/END OF THE ARTICLE\*****

 

Indy

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