coorslite21 Posted July 22, 2020 Report Share Posted July 22, 2020 17 minutes ago, Shabibilicious said: Fox News and Rightwing media is still going after Obama, his administration, Benghazi, etc. etc.....Hell, Trump mentions him or tweets about him almost daily. I remember when Obama was in office and he would be attacked and Obama fans would push back very similar to how you just did.....and the smack down for playing the victim card was epic. Trump, his handlers, Republicans and his base plays that card ceaselessly. GO RV, then BV Don't believe any one is playing cards here...no victim playing by me..... Truth is the establishment government and the MSM have been after Trump since before the election........and there is no instance similar in the history of US politics.......CL 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shabibilicious Posted July 22, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, coorslite21 said: Don't believe any one is playing cards here...no victim playing by me..... Truth is the establishment government and the MSM have been after Trump since before the election........and there is no instance similar in the history of US politics.......CL And Trump prides himself on breaking long standing pOTUS precedence every chance he gets.....seems he has earned the level of scrutiny he gets. As always, just my opinion. GO RV, then BV 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coorslite21 Posted July 22, 2020 Report Share Posted July 22, 2020 2 hours ago, Shabibilicious said: And Trump prides himself on breaking long standing pOTUS precedence every chance he gets.....seems he has earned the level of scrutiny he gets. As always, just my opinion. GO RV, then BV Sure......the Obama DOJ had the right to break the laws of the land by surveilling Trump, his campaign and friends and family.....with the hope that they could find something to bring him down.....I guess anyone running for office should have to endure that.... Either way......the Presidential harrassment will continue....the left is already saying they plan to impeach Trump.....again......if he is reelected.....and the ties to corruption Biden has with Ukrane and China......bye bye Biden if he's elected....😮 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shabibilicious Posted July 22, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2020 5 minutes ago, coorslite21 said: Sure......the Obama DOJ had the right to break the laws of the land by surveilling Trump, his campaign and friends and family.....with the hope that they could find something to bring him down.....I guess anyone running for office should have to endure that.... Either way......the Presidential harrassment will continue....the left is already saying they plan to impeach Trump.....again......if he is reelected.....and the ties to corruption Biden has with Ukrane and China......bye bye Biden if he's elected....😮 Guess we'll know for sure when the Durham indictments wipe the Dems out completely. GO RV, then BV 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nstoolman1 Posted July 22, 2020 Report Share Posted July 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Shabibilicious said: Guess we'll know for sure when the Durham indictments wipe the Dems out completely. GO RV, then BV 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coorslite21 Posted July 24, 2020 Report Share Posted July 24, 2020 On 7/22/2020 at 2:25 PM, Shabibilicious said: Guess we'll know for sure when the Durham indictments wipe the Dems out completely. GO RV, then BV Yes we will.....and no hurry on the release.....the independents will determine the winner.....and they are the most informed group of voters... Look for a release around the first of September.....with the evidence for the indictments to be so clear and accurate that there will be no doubt..... By that time Biden will officially have the nomination......so for the right.......no need to tip your hand.....and let the left re-adjust prior to the convention... Let's revisit this thread at that time! CL 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cranman Posted July 24, 2020 Report Share Posted July 24, 2020 Every 4 years we get to vote for the shiniest turd of all the turds. I couldn't fathom putting my family through what any sitting president has to go through. They either really love their country or the idea of being president. Either way, it's a job most of us couldn't handle. It's a world of lying, deception, back stabbing and spite that would drive normal and honest people to drink, drugs and have bad health. 3 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shabibilicious Posted July 27, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2020 On 7/23/2020 at 9:51 PM, coorslite21 said: Yes we will.....and no hurry on the release.....the independents will determine the winner.....and they are the most informed group of voters... Look for a release around the first of September.....with the evidence for the indictments to be so clear and accurate that there will be no doubt..... By that time Biden will officially have the nomination......so for the right.......no need to tip your hand.....and let the left re-adjust prior to the convention... Let's revisit this thread at that time! CL I wonder what the Covid-19 death toll will be by then....it will and does surely matter to most registered voters, their families and loved ones. GO RV, then BV 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeaceSign Posted July 27, 2020 Report Share Posted July 27, 2020 9 hours ago, Shabibilicious said: I wonder what the Covid-19 death toll will be by then....it will and does surely matter to most registered voters, their families and loved ones. GO RV, then BV The covid death count isnt a covid death count. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caddieman Posted July 27, 2020 Report Share Posted July 27, 2020 2 hours ago, PeaceSign said: The covid death count isnt a covid death count. And Jimmy Hoffa was taken by aliens...........see I can do it too.😂 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeaceSign Posted July 28, 2020 Report Share Posted July 28, 2020 14 hours ago, caddieman said: And Jimmy Hoffa was taken by aliens...........see I can do it too.😂 the governor of florida is actually investgating the 100% positive lab results from not just one lab but several and those who signed up but never actually got the test are getting positive results! then there is the tricare story about how 600,000 people were told they had it and didn't!!!! And Orlando Health had to admit that the 98.4 % was actually 9%...and even that was probably flu. puuuuhlease 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theseus Posted July 28, 2020 Report Share Posted July 28, 2020 Today's grilling of AG Barr by the House Judiciary Committee, Rep Eric Fartwell said something interesting during this grilling HE stated that Trump has a two-tiered system of justice. One for his cronies and himself and the other for everyone else. But what is the real two-tier system in place: The 5 Biggest Controversies of Eric Holder's Term as Attorney General From Fast and Furious to the 9/11 mastermind, Holder's most-disputed moves. By ERIN DOOLEY, NOAH WEILAND, VERONICA STRACQUALURSI and KIRSTEN APPLETON September 25, 2014, 5:15 PM 6 min read U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder delivers a keynote speech at New York University's law school, Sept. 23, 2014, in New York. U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder delivers a keynote speech at New York University's law school, Sept. 23, 2014, in New York.undefined Julio Cortez / AP Photo — -- intro: Almost as soon as he was confirmed, it was clear that Attorney General Eric Holder’s tenure would be beset by controversy. In February 2009, his provocative statement -- “in things racial we have always been and I believe continue to be, in too many ways, essentially a nation of cowards” -- roiled many. As one of President Obama’s longest-serving and most-trusted advisers, Holder, who today announced he would step down from the post he has held for five-and-a-half years, has long been a favorite punching bag for the right. Here’s a look at the five biggest controversies during his time at the Justice Department. As one of president Obama’s longest-serving and most-trusted advisers, Holder has long been a favorite punching bag for the right. Here’s a look at the five biggest controversies during his time at the Justice Department: quicklist: 1. 9/11 MASTERMINDS: If Holder had his way, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the mastermind of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, might now be on death row. But staunch political opposition to Holder's plan to prosecute Mohammed in a Manhattan civilian court prevented the attorney general from carrying out what he thought was a “highly-detailed, formidable case” in a federal court just blocks from Ground Zero, which would have intensified the trial even more. Instead, Mohammed is still waiting in Guantanamo Bay after Holder shifted his case to military courts at the detention center in 2011, bowing to legislation that bars Guantanamo inmates from traveling to the U.S. He told Yahoo News this week in an interview, “I will say that if my recommendation had been followed, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and his confederates would be on death row right now. Right now.” media: 25755241 2 :MONITORING THE PRESS:Among a number of controversies during his tenure involving journalists, Holder had to temper public anger in 2013 over the Justice Department’s seizure of Associated Press phone records resulting from an AP article in May 2012. Holder believed the article on a terrorist plot in Yemen threatened American security, and defended the Justice Department’s need to vet the AP correspondence. The president of The Associated Press claimed he kept the story from publication until government officials had confirmed there were no national security concerns that could have resulted from the article, and White House secretary Jay Carney insisted President Obama remained a faithful guardian of First Amendment rights. Holder’s argument came just years after dropping charges against former Justice Department lawyer Thomas Tamm, who leaked details of a Bush administration wiretapping program to the New York Times. Also in 2013, Holder denied attempting to prosecute journalists after reports revealed the Justice Department was monitoring Fox News reporter James Rosen following a story he published in 2009 on Iran. media: 25756073 3 OPERATION FAST AND FURIOUS text:In a gunrunning sting gone awry, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives lost an estimated 1,400 weapons in Mexico -- including two guns that resurfaced at the murder scene of U.S. Border Patrol agent Brian Terry in December 2010. The following May, Holder, who technically oversees ATF, testified before the House Judiciary Committee that he had only known about the sting, dubbed “Operation Fast & Furious,” for a few weeks. But after investigators uncovered memos on Fast & Furious sent to Holder in July 2010, congressional Republicans cried foul. According to the Justice Department, however, Holder never read the memos – and an IG report later “found no evidence that Department or ATF staff informed Holder about Operation Fast and Furious prior to 2011.” Holder repeatedly denied a DOJ cover-up, saying only, “This operation was flawed in concept, as well as in execution.” Bolstered by Obama’s assertion of executive privilege, which prevented future prosecution, Holder refused to turn over documents related to Fast and Furious, infuriating Congressional Republicans, who accused him of concealing administration failures. He was held in contempt of Congress in June 2012, marking the first time an attorney general has been held in criminal contempt. media: 25756744 quicklist:4 title:*** MARRIAGE text:In 2011, the attorney general said he won’t defend Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) which rules that federal interpretation of “marriage” applies only to heterosexual couples. Last year, Holder told ABC News, “From my perspective, [*** marriage] is really the latest civil-rights issue.” So when six state attorneys general said they would not defend laws that ban *** marriage, Holder did not step in. Instead, Holder said they didn’t have to defend the laws if they believed they were unconstitutional. Holder’s handling of the matter did not sit well with former Justice Department officials, who believed the actions of Obama’s attorney general were anti-democratic. A U.S. attorney general, as head of the Justice Department, is responsible for enforcing federal laws. One critic of Holder, former Virginia Solicitor General William H. Hurd said, “These are important issues, but the job of an attorney general is not to act as a judge and decide them. His job is to act as an advocate and defend the laws enacted through the democratic process.” media: 25756272 quicklist:5 title:DRUG CRIMES text:In 2013, Holder modified the Justice Department’s sentencing policy for low-level, drug-related crimes out of belief that they were discriminatory and destabilizing. “Let’s be honest: Some of the enforcement priorities that we have set have had a destabilizing effect on particular communities ... largely poor and of color, and [have been] applied inappropriately,” Holder said in a speech. In the past, mandatory minimum sentences were implemented to discourage drug use and reduce racially-biased sentences. Holder mandated the modification so that low-level, non-violent drug offenders with no ties to gangs or cartels would no longer be charged with offenses that “impose draconian, mandatory” sentences, and would instead be sentenced on an individual basis. Since the modification last year, the federal prison population dropped by 4,800 ... the first time the prison population declined since 1980. media: 25757773 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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