SocalDinar Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 This thread is awesome ! Always love a good conspiracy theory. Big brother will also have everyone’s DNA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markinsa Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 On 5/11/2020 at 6:23 PM, EverCurious452 said: and the evidence of that is what? Where is the video record of this effort? This should start at the 40 min mark. This is where they talk about the 6 men. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EverCurious452 Posted May 15, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 (edited) Oh Come on Markinsa, this is a video of Ron Wyatt''s son telling what his farther told him. If the first hand story is worthless the second hand one is even more so. I was asking for video of the official Israeli government excavation. You want me to believe that the most important religious, archaeological, scientific find in modern history if not recored history is know to the Israeli government and religions leaders but they chose to not tell anyone and just leave it buried but accessible to anyone who wants to dig around. Someone telling you that they believe X, is not evidence that X is true (even if they do in fact truthfully believe it). There are plenty of folks who (as far as I can tell) genuinely believe that they have had various sorts of encounters with extraterrestrials including being taken aboard spacecraft and "probed". Do you accept that as true (not just that they believe it but that what the say really happened)? If not why not? Edited May 15, 2020 by EverCurious452 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markinsa Posted May 16, 2020 Report Share Posted May 16, 2020 On 5/14/2020 at 9:21 PM, EverCurious452 said: There are plenty of folks who (as far as I can tell) genuinely believe that they have had various sorts of encounters with extraterrestrials including being taken aboard spacecraft and "probed". Do you accept that as true (not just that they believe it but that what the say really happened)? If not why not? There are many things I do not understand, or can explain, I just know. I don't know why people believe they have been abducted by aliens, unless the aliens are actually demons doing the abductions... The incident we are talking about happened in the early 80's, I would guess it wasn't documented by video because video cameras weren't readily available back then. You have to ask yourself, what is the purpose of his sons' lying? Financial gain? I highly doubt that. There was video evidence of the excavation and the crack from the Cross Hole post through to the chamber the Ark was located. All attempts to video the actual find end up with the video and photographs not developing properly. How convenient for you? Ron Wyatt was asked on his death bed about the find and he did not alter his claim of this find. One last thing, finding of the Ark of the Covenant, while a great find for Israel, the Jews and Christians, isn't so much of a find for the rest of the world. There would be problems with the Temple Mount and the surrounding Arab Countries, so just simply coming out and announcing the find would cause trouble. I know there is a God and I have seen his work in the lives of people I know, and their testimonies of the things he has done in their lives. Time is short, Jesus is returning soon to gather his people. Does he know you? . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EverCurious452 Posted May 16, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2020 2 hours ago, Markinsa said: There are many things I do not understand, or can explain, I just know. I don't know why people believe they have been abducted by aliens, unless the aliens are actually demons doing the abductions... The incident we are talking about happened in the early 80's, I would guess it wasn't documented by video because video cameras weren't readily available back then. You have to ask yourself, what is the purpose of his sons' lying? Financial gain? I highly doubt that. There was video evidence of the excavation and the crack from the Cross Hole post through to the chamber the Ark was located. All attempts to video the actual find end up with the video and photographs not developing properly. How convenient for you? Ron Wyatt was asked on his death bed about the find and he did not alter his claim of this find. One last thing, finding of the Ark of the Covenant, while a great find for Israel, the Jews and Christians, isn't so much of a find for the rest of the world. There would be problems with the Temple Mount and the surrounding Arab Countries, so just simply coming out and announcing the find would cause trouble. I know there is a God and I have seen his work in the lives of people I know, and their testimonies of the things he has done in their lives. Time is short, Jesus is returning soon to gather his people. Does he know you? "I just know". More precisely you have the sensation that you know. I didn't ask if you know why some people believe they have been abducted by ET, but if you believe those claimed events really happend. I'm not saying that the son is lying. All he is stating is that he believes what his father told him. The father may well have believed what he said, just like the folks that say they have been abducted by ET. I'm saying that such claims by themselves offer next to nothing in the convincing evidence department unless you have already decided that they are true. Video was available in the 80s as was film and both were certainly available to the Israeli government. Yes merely announcing the find would be little more than what you have already presented, it is offering clear undeniable evidence that would be convincing. People believe in all sorts of stuff, some of those beliefs can be beneficial to the believer whether they are true or not. But in neither case is that evidence that the thing believed in exists. Again I would say to read The Big Picture, if you dare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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EverCurious452 Posted August 12, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2020 3 hours ago, Markinsa said: So who is he and what project did he work on? Where is the documentation? Much of what he says makes no sense so I am skeptical that he is telling the truth about what he worked on. What would be the point of putting such a tiny power source into such a device? it wouldn't be sufficient to transmit anything. Also the temperature of a Li-ion battery is important for battery chemistry not for "current to flow". So he doesn't seem to know what he is talking about. They were looking for a warm spot in the body? How about any internal area? The forehead is a good place to read a temperature from the OUTSIDE as it has lots of blood vessels close to the surface. Once you can go inside the body its pretty much warm everywhere. He was lured into this by getting $250,000? Please, that's nothing. Finally as I have said before biometrics is the ID technology that is rapidly taking over, not any physical device. Further there was NOTHING in that video that said this would be bundled with the covid or any other vaccine (A 25 gauge needle typically used for a vaccine has an inside diameter of .26mm so a .75mm diameter and 7mm long device that he claims even if that was the final package size would be vastly too big.) And you do not get vaccine injections in the hand let alone the forehead. Whoever posted this originally just made up the vaccine part and you have just passed it along as it fits with your beliefs not because its credible. Shame on you. THINK for yourself! I agree about the advice not to get chipped. Doing so would be stupid. But it won't be an issue as no one will be trying to do it. Vaccines are an entirely different matter and once a safe and effective covid vaccine is available I encourage everyone to get it (I certainly will be doing so). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markinsa Posted August 12, 2020 Report Share Posted August 12, 2020 @evercurious452 Just the facts mam. You are a regular Joe Friday aren't you? Are you omniscient? Perhaps you think you are God? If not you have to accept the possibility that this could be true because you don't know everything. Tell me, what do you believe? About Creation, about an afterlife? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EverCurious452 Posted August 12, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2020 4 hours ago, Markinsa said: @evercurious452 Just the facts mam. You are a regular Joe Friday aren't you? Are you omniscient? Perhaps you think you are God? If not you have to accept the possibility that this could be true because you don't know everything. Omniscience is not required to see logical/factual inconsistencies in such posts. Such data is easily available, all you have to do is make teh small effort to look i up, but you don't do that do you? You are a perfect example of selection bias. There are Amazon women on the moon! Do you have to accept the possibility that that is true just because someone said it? Quote "Tell me, what do you believe? About Creation, about an afterlife?" What bearing does that have on this discussion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockfl9 Posted August 12, 2020 Report Share Posted August 12, 2020 Medical care is going digital. In some European countries , If you are on the state medical plan you have no choice . Your card is swiped and your medical record pops up. a chip would be no different and possibly better. Just think it could save your life. Say you are found unconscious . The EMT could scan the chip in the ambulance and get important medical history. Blood type , allergies etc. At the sme time your physician and/or a necessary specialist is alerted. I think it is coming , and would not avoid it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EverCurious452 Posted August 12, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2020 59 minutes ago, rockfl9 said: Medical care is going digital. In some European countries , If you are on the state medical plan you have no choice . Your card is swiped and your medical record pops up. a chip would be no different and possibly better. Just think it could save your life. Say you are found unconscious . The EMT could scan the chip in the ambulance and get important medical history. Blood type , allergies etc. At the sme time your physician and/or a necessary specialist is alerted. I think it is coming , and would not avoid it. You are conflating two distinct and largely orthogonal things. Medical care going digital, and how are people identified. If you do not have a card, or our phone, the EMT just needs to snap a picture of your face and facial recognition brings up your records. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocalDinar Posted August 12, 2020 Report Share Posted August 12, 2020 2 hours ago, rockfl9 said: Medical care is going digital. In some European countries , If you are on the state medical plan you have no choice . Your card is swiped and your medical record pops up. a chip would be no different and possibly better. Just think it could save your life. Say you are found unconscious . The EMT could scan the chip in the ambulance and get important medical history. Blood type , allergies etc. At the sme time your physician and/or a necessary specialist is alerted. I think it is coming , and would not avoid it. Why not just engrave a number on everyone's forehead.? They have medical info necklaces... Do you have one of those now? No way no how would i allow my family or myself to be chipped. I don't trust the government! Never have and never will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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