markb57 Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 more politics than virus..... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markb57 Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 6 hours ago, Starrider said: Yes I was told that our Gov shut it down BC it was way to close to home. Starr i saw this series several times. bought the dvd's. Yes, I'd read that it hit to close to reality as to why it was discontinued. Scary stuff....however I still feel this is mostly political at this time.... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starrider Posted March 19, 2020 Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 3 hours ago, markb57 said: i saw this series several times. bought the dvd's. Yes, I'd read that it hit to close to reality as to why it was discontinued. Scary stuff....however I still feel this is mostly political at this time.... Change the politics to virus. And its there Starr 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umbertino Posted March 19, 2020 Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 The US could see more deaths than WWII. It's time to deploy the military to hospitals America has the strongest military in the world. We need to put it to use Nick Obradovich, Robyn Migliorini and Renee C Wurth Thu 19 Mar 2020 14.16 GMT https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/mar/19/us-military-coronavirus-hospitals Trump signs coronavirus bill ordering free testing and aid for workers Measure introduced by Democrats will expand Medicaid and unemployment benefits and mandate paid sick leave for some Maanvi Singh Thu 19 Mar 2020 01.28 GMT Last modified on Thu 19 Mar 2020 15.33 GMT https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/18/trump-signs-coronavirus-bill-free-testing-paid-leave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markb57 Posted March 19, 2020 Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 Governors already have the ability to call in the National Guard where needed. No need to call in the military, yet..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cranman Posted March 19, 2020 Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 59 minutes ago, markb57 said: Governors already have the ability to call in the National Guard where needed. No need to call in the military, yet..... National Guard isn't military? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markb57 Posted March 19, 2020 Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 (edited) yes and no. during wartime, the guard is considered an active part of the military. Also, you have a thing called Posse Comitatus. The Posse Comitatus Act, which passed after the Civil War to keep federal troops from policing the South, limits federal troops' deployment on U.S. soil and forbids using them to enforce domestic laws. The President can deploy troops if there's an insurrection or invasion on U.S. soil. Edited March 19, 2020 by markb57 addition 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregp Posted March 20, 2020 Report Share Posted March 20, 2020 A coworker just had a friend fly into California, while returning from Europe. There was ZERO Corona testing at the airport. No wonder Cali has so many Corona cases. Unbelievable!!!! 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umbertino Posted March 20, 2020 Report Share Posted March 20, 2020 'If I get it, I die': homeless residents say inhumane shelter conditions will spread coronavirus As California officials urge residents to avoid physical contact, residents worry the facilities are not prepared to cope with the outbreak Sam Levin in Los Angeles Thu 19 Mar 2020 14.48 GMT https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/19/if-i-get-it-i-die-homeless-residents-say-inhumane-shelter-conditions-will-spread-coronavirus 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Starrider Posted March 20, 2020 Report Share Posted March 20, 2020 21 minutes ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/gov-gavin-newsom-orders-all-californians-to-stay-at-home/ar-BB11qBbf?li=BBnb7Kz Starr 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocalDinar Posted March 20, 2020 Report Share Posted March 20, 2020 56 minutes ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said: Its actually a mandate now so enforceable. Im an electrical contractor and already had city officials in my small town call and ask what capacities of infrastructure repair we are capable of. Ive always been a prepper and can handle three months of isolation easy. Not sure about the neighbors so we are ready to help. Electricians are considered essential. but have cancelled all non essential work. I do have a high priority repair scheduled for Saturday that needs to be done at a medical facility ( transformer replacement ) that we will take care of. After that I'll Only take calls from city and government officials. They have my cell number and asked that i be on standby. Been telling everyone i know since Fed 1st to get ready. Many are thanking me now. From a reliable official. Here is a little more information on the virus that may help explain a few things that people don’t understand. This is from an immunologist at Johns Hopkins University. Feeling confused as to why Coronavirus is a bigger deal than Seasonal flu? Here it is in a nutshell. I hope this helps. Feel free to share this to others who don’t understand... It has to do with RNA sequencing.... I.e. genetics. Seasonal flu is an “all human virus”. The DNA/RNA chains that make up the virus are recognized by the human immune system. This means that your body has some immunity to it before it comes around each year... you get immunity two ways...through exposure to a virus, or by getting a flu shot. Novel viruses, come from animals.... the WHO tracks novel viruses in animals, (sometimes for years watching for mutations). Usually these viruses only transfer from animal to animal (pigs in the case of H1N1) (birds in the case of the Spanish flu). But once, one of these animal viruses mutates, and starts to transfer from animals to humans... then it’s a problem, Why? Because we have no natural or acquired immunity.. the RNA sequencing of the genes inside the virus isn’t human, and the human immune system doesn’t recognize it so, we can’t fight it off. Now.... sometimes, the mutation only allows transfer from animal to human, for years it’s only transmission is from an infected animal to a human before it finally mutates so that it can now transfer human to human... once that happens..we have a new contagion phase. And depending on the fashion of this new mutation, thats what decides how contagious, or how deadly it’s gonna be.. H1N1 was deadly....but it did not mutate in a way that was as deadly as the Spanish flu. It’s RNA was slower to mutate and it attacked its host differently, too. Fast forward. Now, here comes this Coronavirus... it existed in animals only, for nobody knows how long...but one day, at an animal market, in Wuhan China, in December 2019, it mutated and made the jump from animal to people. At first, only animals could give it to a person... But here is the scary part.... in just TWO WEEKS it mutated again and gained the ability to jump from human to human. Scientists call this quick ability, “slippery” This Coronavirus, not being in any form a “human” virus (whereas we would all have some natural or acquired immunity). Took off like a rocket. And this was because, Humans have no known immunity...doctors have no known medicines for it. And it just so happens that this particular mutated animal virus, changed itself in such a way the way that it causes great damage to human lungs.. That’s why Coronavirus is different from seasonal flu, or H1N1 or any other type of influenza.... this one is slippery AF. And it’s a lung eater...And, it’s already mutated AGAIN, so that we now have two strains to deal with, strain s, and strain L....which makes it twice as hard to develop a vaccine. We really have no tools in our shed, with this. History has shown that fast and immediate closings of public places has helped in the past pandemics. Philadelphia and Baltimore were reluctant to close events in 1918 and they were the hardest hit in the US during the Spanish Flu. Factoid: Henry VIII stayed in his room and allowed no one near him, till the Black Plague passed...(honestly...I understand him so much better now). Just like us, he had no tools in his shed, except social isolation... And let me end by saying....this genome is so slippery...if it mutates again (and it will) who is to say what it will do next. 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyLadiesDaddy Posted March 20, 2020 Report Share Posted March 20, 2020 6 minutes ago, SocalDinar said: Its actually a mandate now so enforceable. Im an electrical contractor and already had city officials in my small town call and ask what capacities of infrastructure repair we are capable of. Ive always been a prepper and can handle three months of isolation easy Please be careful out there. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocalDinar Posted March 20, 2020 Report Share Posted March 20, 2020 34 minutes ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said: Please be careful out there. You too LGD. Trying times but we WILL get through this . Thoughts and prayers for everyone!!! 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umbertino Posted March 20, 2020 Report Share Posted March 20, 2020 2 hours ago, SocalDinar said: You too LGD. Trying times but we WILL get through this . Thoughts and prayers for everyone!!! Thanks for your interesting and helpful post about this S.O.B. virus, Socal... Yes...Indeed we will get through this.... Wishing the best to you all...... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umbertino Posted March 20, 2020 Report Share Posted March 20, 2020 Doctor: As Coronavirus Cases Spike Worldwide, We Need Global Cooperation to Halt Spread March 20, 2020 https://www.democracynow.org/2020/3/20/coronavirus_dr_michele_barry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cranman Posted March 20, 2020 Report Share Posted March 20, 2020 22 hours ago, markb57 said: yes and no. during wartime, the guard is considered an active part of the military. Also, you have a thing called Posse Comitatus. The Posse Comitatus Act, which passed after the Civil War to keep federal troops from policing the South, limits federal troops' deployment on U.S. soil and forbids using them to enforce domestic laws. The President can deploy troops if there's an insurrection or invasion on U.S. soil. I was being sarcastic. The National Guard is absolutely military. There is no yes and no about it. Any time a soldier in the National Guard puts the uniform on or is on orders they are subject to the UCMJ . I understand they can be used in different capacities depending whether they are serving under Title 10 or Title 32 orders. But they are military no matter what. I think that is what you meant. I spent 21 years in the National Guard and never felt I was never military regardless what duty I performed at home or on the other side of the pond. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSM (R) Thack Posted March 20, 2020 Report Share Posted March 20, 2020 40 minutes ago, cranman said: I was being sarcastic. The National Guard is absolutely military. There is no yes and no about it. Any time a soldier in the National Guard puts the uniform on or is on orders they are subject to the UCMJ . I understand they can be used in different capacities depending whether they are serving under Title 10 or Title 32 orders. But they are military no matter what. I think that is what you meant. I spent 21 years in the National Guard and never felt I was never military regardless what duty I performed at home or on the other side of the pond. Hooah!!! 👍🇺🇸 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umbertino Posted March 21, 2020 Report Share Posted March 21, 2020 Trump throws tantrum over question about coronavirus fears: 'You're a terrible reporter' President rails against NBC journalist’s ‘nasty question’ Trump announces new immigration restrictions David Smith in Washington Fri 20 Mar 2020 19.28 GMT https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/20/trump-coronavirus-question-attack-reporter-over-fears New York now the center of the US coronavirus crisis – can it cope? The number of infected people in New York City has risen rapidly, and experts are worried about glaring gaps in preparedeness Fri 20 Mar 2020 18.41 GMT by Ed Pilkington in New York https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/20/new-york-center-us-coronavirus Here's what a 'stay home' order means for New York Governor Andrew Cuomo has ordered all non-essential businesses to shut down and for New Yorkers to remain indoors Kenya Evelyn in Washington Sat 21 Mar 2020 02.34 GMT First published on Fri 20 Mar 2020 21.23 GMT https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/20/new-york-90-day-stay-home-order-what-it-means A shadow of itself: 40m Californians wake up to life under lockdown Streets are empty and schools closed as the state takes dramatic action to stop the spread of coronavirus Mario Koran, Andrew Gumbel , Peter Lawrence Kane , Vivian Ho and Sam Levin Sat 21 Mar 2020 00.13 GMT https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/20/california-lockdown-shelter-in-place-traffic-schools-jobs 'This could kill our patients': US faces blood shortage as donation sites shutter With campuses and libraries closed, more than 5,000 Red Cross blood drives have been canceled and supplies are running out Victoria Bekiempis Sat 21 Mar 2020 08.00 GMT Last modified on Sat 21 Mar 2020 08.02 GMT https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/21/us-blood-donations-shortage-coronavirus 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umbertino Posted March 21, 2020 Report Share Posted March 21, 2020 Congress and White House resume talks on $1tn pandemic rescue deal Officials say the economic package could pump $2tn into the US economy which would provide paychecks and funds to hospitals Associated Press Sat 21 Mar 2020 21.27 GMT https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/21/us-coronavirus-economic-rescue-trump 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umbertino Posted March 23, 2020 Report Share Posted March 23, 2020 The US military would be superb at fighting coronavirus. Let's use it After the 2010 Haitian earthquake, we saw the US military in action as a humanitarian force. They can do this Ann Lee and Sean Penn Sat 21 Mar 2020 10.19 GMT ‘We have the most effective armed forces in the world. And when policies allow soldiers to care instead of kill, they are at their very best. We have that opportunity today.’ Photograph: Morgan K Nall/US NAVY/AFP via Getty Images https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/mar/21/the-us-military-would-be-superb-at-fighting-coronavirus-lets-use-it 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umbertino Posted March 24, 2020 Report Share Posted March 24, 2020 'Where's Fauci?' America panics as doctor absent again from White House briefing Infectious disease expert, who has politely sparred with Trump, has become a calming presence in a time of deep uncertainty Lauren Gambino in Washington Tue 24 Mar 2020 03.21 GMT Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, speaks during a briefing at the White House on 21 March 2020 Photograph: Tasos Katopodis/Getty Images https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/23/dr-fauci-press-conference-white-house-coronavirus 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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