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Army Secretary: No investigation into Vindman, Army aide and impeachment witness fired by Trump

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Tom Vanden Brook, USA TODAYFebruary 17, 2020
 
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WASHINGTON – Army Sec. Ryan McCarthy said Friday that Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman, the former National Security Council staffer who testified in President Donald Trump's impeachment inquiry, is not under investigation, a stance seemingly at odds with the White House. 

Trump directed his wrath at Vindman after the Ukraine expert testified before Congress about concerns with Trump's phone call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky. That conversation triggered Trump's impeachment. 

Last week, Trump tweeted that he had ousted Vindman, whom he described as "insubordinate." On Tuesday, Trump continued to rail against Vindman, saying that he "did a lot of bad things" and that the military would review his performance.

That does not appear to be the case, according to McCarthy, the Army's senior civilian official. 

"There is no investigation into him," McCarthy said. 

 

Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman, a Ukraine expert for the National Security Council, testifies on Nov. 19, 2019, before the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.
Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman, a Ukraine expert for the National Security Council, testifies on Nov. 19, 2019, before the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.

McCarthy told an audience at the National Press Club Friday that Vindman will complete an interim assignment before he enrolls at a senior service war college. The military sends its promising officers to schools such as the Army's War College to prepare them for promotion to more senior posts.

Vindman's interim job will be in the Washington, D.C.-area, according to a Defense Department official who was not authorized to speak publicly about personnel matters.

Vindman, along with other White House staffers, listened to Trump’s July 25 call with Zelensky. Vindman reported his concerns to the council's top lawyer about Trump demanding investigations of former Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter. 

 

“I did not think it was proper to demand that a foreign government investigate a U.S. citizen, and I was worried about the implications for the U.S. government’s support of Ukraine,” Vindman said. "It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see where the gain would be for the president in investigating the son of a political opponent." 

After his acquittal in the Senate, Trump fired Vindman and his twin brother Yevgeny, another Army officer on the national security staff. He also fired the U.S. ambassador to the European Union, Gordon Sondland, who also had testified in the impeachment inquiry.

 

https://news.yahoo.com/army-secretary-no-investigation-vindman-214753719.html?.tsrc=jtc_news_index

 

GO RV, then BV  :salute:

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To be clear, Vindman wasn't fired.....he was reassigned...and because he worked at the "pleasure of the President"........Trump had every right to make the change....    CL

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11 minutes ago, coorslite21 said:

To be clear, Vindman wasn't fired.....he was reassigned...and because he worked at the "pleasure of the President"........Trump had every right to make the change....    CL

 

Well, fired from the White House, lets say.....Anyhoo, I'm just glad Trump's unfounded claim of "insubordination" against career soldier, Ltc. Vindman, for doing his job professionally and ethically, isn't going to effect his ability to move forward in his career.  :salute:

 

GO RV, then BV 

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Just now, Shabibilicious said:

 

Well, fired from the White House, lets say.....Anyhoo, I'm just glad Trump's unfounded claim of "insubordination" against career soldier, Ltc. Vindman for doing his job professionally and ethically, isn't going to effect his ability to move forward in his career.  :salute:

 

GO RV, then BV 

 

Reassigned.....and insubordinate for nor following the usual chain of command process......just the facts...

 

There has been enough posted on this clown......hard to believe you are still defending him...   CL 

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6 minutes ago, coorslite21 said:

 

Reassigned.....and insubordinate for nor following the usual chain of command process......just the facts...

 

There has been enough posted on this clown......hard to believe you are still defending him...   CL 

 

Another case of the Generals knowing more than the stable yet fragile genius......I guess my defense of Vindman is much like your defense of Trump....though your tenure for such runs much longer than mine....your right, of course.:salute:

 

GO RV, then BV

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6 hours ago, Shabibilicious said:

 

Another case of the Generals knowing more than the stable yet fragile genius......I guess my defense of Vindman is much like your defense of Trump....though your tenure for such runs much longer than mine....your right, of course.:salute:

 

GO RV, then BV

 

Not defending Trump......just stating the facts.....Trump was elected to be the leader of the free world,  against all odds.........Vindman worked for his Administration.....and let his political bias get the better of him.  Simple as that.

CL 

 

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29 minutes ago, coorslite21 said:

 

Not defending Trump......just stating the facts.....Trump was elected to be the leader of the free world,  against all odds.........Vindman worked for his Administration.....and let his political bias get the better of him.  Simple as that.

CL 

 

Spot on CL. At the very least he should get an Article 15 for not following the proper chain. I promise if he was a Battalion Commander and one of his subordinates did not follow the proper chain of command like he did, he would become unglued and punish him for that action.

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Army may not be investigating him but that does not mean he is not being investigated. 

Many things happen behind closed doors that we don't know about. 

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10 hours ago, coorslite21 said:

 

Not defending Trump......just stating the facts.....Trump was elected to be the leader of the free world,  against all odds.........Vindman worked for his Administration.....and let his political bias get the better of him.  Simple as that.

CL 

 

 

We'll simply have to agree to disagree on this, CL.....as I believe you have it twisted, for Trump was the one using his political bias for personal gain....LTC Vindman simply identified it, flagged it, and passed it along, as was his NSC job.  Not to worry though, Donald is thinking about shutting down the listening in of his phone calls completely.....while maintaining the most transparent administration in history, mind you.  :rolleyes:

 

GO RV, then BV  

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1 hour ago, Shabibilicious said:

 

We'll simply have to agree to disagree on this, CL.....as I believe you have it twisted, for Trump was the one using his political bias for personal gain....LTC Vindman simply identified it, flagged it, and passed it along, as was his NSC job.  Not to worry though, Donald is thinking about shutting down the listening in of his phone calls completely.....while maintaining the most transparent administration in history, mind you.  :rolleyes:

 

GO RV, then BV  

 

Yes perhaps we we will have to leave it there... I don't believe Trump was using  political bias" for personal gain......he saw corruption.... and it happened to be Biden Jr....

 

Convienent?.....yes....was he with in his rights as the top law enforcement agent in the US to expose that corruption?...yes

 

Vindmans a whole nother story!

 

Transparentcy?.....no President has ever been as scrutinized as Trump has been in his first 3 years........1.6 million pages alone in the Mueller report.

 

Time for the Government to quit playing games... let the election decide where the country is headed.   JMO

 

CL 

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On 2/17/2020 at 12:57 PM, Shabibilicious said:

 

Well, fired from the White House, lets say.....Anyhoo, I'm just glad Trump's unfounded claim of "insubordination" against career soldier, Ltc. Vindman, for doing his job professionally and ethically, isn't going to effect his ability to move forward in his career.  :salute:

 

GO RV, then BV 

 

So much for his professional and ethical performance of his duty.

 

https://neonnettle.com/news/9505-vindman-admits-to-fabricating-details-from-trump-s-ukraine-call-summary

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11 hours ago, nstoolman1 said:

 

 

So much for his professional and ethical performance of his duty.

 

https://neonnettle.com/news/9505-vindman-admits-to-fabricating-details-from-trump-s-ukraine-call-summary


Thanks natoolman

 

On 2/18/2020 at 7:01 AM, Shabibilicious said:

 

We'll simply have to agree to disagree on this, CL.....as I believe you have it twisted, for Trump was the one using his political bias for personal gain....LTC Vindman simply identified it, flagged it, and passed it along, as was his NSC job.  Not to worry though, Donald is thinking about shutting down the listening in of his phone calls completely.....while maintaining the most transparent administration in history, mind you.  :rolleyes:

 

GO RV, then BV  

 

Here you go. Frame it on your crooked wall ...

NEON NETTLE Vindman Admits to Fabricating Details from Trump's Ukraine Call Summary Democrats' star 'witness' Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman admits to making up details By: Jay Greenberg  on 19th November 2019 @ 9.00pm © press Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman has admitted he made up parts of the summary of Trump's Ukraine call One of the Democrats' star "witnesses," in their taxpayer-funded anti-Trump impeachment campaign, has admitted that he fabricated details from the president's phone call with Ukraine's leader during an official summary of the conversation.Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman admits he made up elements of President Donald Trump’s call with Ukranian President Volodymyr Zelensky.During his summary of the call, Vindman included details about a discussion between the two leaders regarding an agreement to "root out corruption" in Ukraine, but that conversation never took place.Prior to the call, Vindman included the fabricated details in the talking points provided to the president but now admits that Trump did not use them in the call. The summery Vindman wrote after the call read:President Trump underscored the unwavering support of the United States for Ukraine’s sovereignty and territorial integrity – within its internationally recognized borders – and expressed his commitment to work together with President-elect Zelenskyy and the Ukrainian people to implement reforms that strengthen democracy, increase prosperity, and root out corruption.Have your say - ⇓ Hit the comments below ⇓ © press Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman admits he added fabricated details to the official summary of the Ukraine call During his testimony, Vindman clarified that President Trump did not bring up the topic rooting out corruption during the phone call.But, he confesses that he included it in his summary of the call anyway.TRENDING: Joe Biden Accused of Sexual AssaultWhen asked by the Democrat counsel about whether the summary he wrote was false, Vindman hesitated.“That’s not entirely accurate, but I’m not sure I would describe it as false, it was consistent with U.S. policy,” Vindman replied.Vindman said he included the rhetoric about corruption as a “messaging platform” to describe U.S. policy toward Ukraine, even though it was not discussed on the call. © press Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman claims the two leader discussed rooting out corruption in Ukraine, but the conversation never happened Elsewhere, another witness testimony has emerged to further shred the credibility of the Democrats impeachment claims.As Neon Nettle previously reported, a top US diplomat has testified that neither Joe Biden or his son Hunter Biden, or their connected Ukrainian company Burisma, were ever mentioned while US military aid to Ukraine was held up.David Hale, the State Department’s No. 3 official, gave testimony during a November 6 closed-door deposition.Hale has testified that no one in the Trump administration, or any other "government channel," ever mentioned the Bidens as a reason for withholding aid from Ukraine.A transcript of Hale's remarks was released late Monday by House Democrats during their impeachment inquiry.Democrats argue that the White House improperly pressured Ukraine to look into the Bidens and energy firm Burisma Holdings, with the unfounded allegation being the foundation of the impeachment push against President Donald Trump.Hunter Biden held a lucrative role at the notoriously corrupt natural gas company, despite limited expertise, while his father oversaw Ukraine policy while in office as vice president.[RELATED] Ex-NYPD Commissioner: Schiff 'Should Be Charged with Conspiracy to Commit Treason'

READ MORE: https://neonnettle.com/news/9505-vindman-admits-to-fabricating-details-from-trump-s-ukraine-call-summary
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On 2/17/2020 at 3:00 PM, coorslite21 said:

 

Reassigned.....and insubordinate for nor following the usual chain of command process......just the facts...

 

There has been enough posted on this clown......hard to believe you are still defending him...   CL 


Just the facts!

John Kelly defends Vindman: ‘He did exactly what we teach them to do’

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/13/john-kelly-defends-vindman-114801

 

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2 hours ago, gregp said:


Thanks natoolman

 

 

Here you go. Frame it on your crooked wall ...

NEON NETTLE Vindman Admits to Fabricating Details from Trump's Ukraine Call Summary Democrats' star 'witness' Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman admits to making up details By: Jay Greenberg  on 19th November 2019 @ 9.00pm © press Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman has admitted he made up parts of the summary of Trump's Ukraine call One of the Democrats' star "witnesses," in their taxpayer-funded anti-Trump impeachment campaign, has admitted that he fabricated details from the president's phone call with Ukraine's leader during an official summary of the conversation.Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman admits he made up elements of President Donald Trump’s call with Ukranian President Volodymyr Zelensky.During his summary of the call, Vindman included details about a discussion between the two leaders regarding an agreement to "root out corruption" in Ukraine, but that conversation never took place.Prior to the call, Vindman included the fabricated details in the talking points provided to the president but now admits that Trump did not use them in the call. The summery Vindman wrote after the call read:President Trump underscored the unwavering support system" rel="">support of the United States for Ukraine’s sovereignty and territorial integrity – within its internationally recognized borders – and expressed his commitment to work together with President-elect Zelenskyy and the Ukrainian people to implement reforms that strengthen democracy, increase prosperity, and root out corruption.Have your say - ⇓ Hit the comments below ⇓ © press Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman admits he added fabricated details to the official summary of the Ukraine call During his testimony, Vindman clarified that President Trump did not bring up the topic rooting out corruption during the phone call.But, he confesses that he included it in his summary of the call anyway.TRENDING: Joe Biden Accused of Sexual AssaultWhen asked by the Democrat counsel about whether the summary he wrote was false, Vindman hesitated.“That’s not entirely accurate, but I’m not sure I would describe it as false, it was consistent with U.S. policy,” Vindman replied.Vindman said he included the rhetoric about corruption as a “messaging platform” to describe U.S. policy toward Ukraine, even though it was not discussed on the call. © press Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman claims the two leader discussed rooting out corruption in Ukraine, but the conversation never happened Elsewhere, another witness testimony has emerged to further shred the credibility of the Democrats impeachment claims.As Neon Nettle previously reported, a top US diplomat has testified that neither Joe Biden or his son Hunter Biden, or their connected Ukrainian company Burisma, were ever mentioned while US military aid to Ukraine was held up.David Hale, the State Department’s No. 3 official, gave testimony during a November 6 closed-door deposition.Hale has testified that no one in the Trump administration, or any other "government channel," ever mentioned the Bidens as a reason for withholding aid from Ukraine.A transcript of Hale's remarks was released late Monday by House Democrats during their impeachment inquiry.Democrats argue that the White House improperly pressured Ukraine to look into the Bidens and energy firm Burisma Holdings, with the unfounded allegation being the foundation of the impeachment push against President Donald Trump.Hunter Biden held a lucrative role at the notoriously corrupt natural gas company, despite limited expertise, while his father oversaw Ukraine policy while in office as vice president.[RELATED] Ex-NYPD Commissioner: Schiff 'Should Be Charged with Conspiracy to Commit Treason'

READ MORE: https://neonnettle.com/news/9505-vindman-admits-to-fabricating-details-from-trump-s-ukraine-call-summary
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Neonnettle.com is a British website that posts inflammatory political stories, many with misinformation, about the U.S. and U.K. — it has a “conspiracy” section in its “news” category. It says on its “About Us” page:

“At Neon Nettle, we believe the mainstream has become less valid as it continues its ongoing practices of censorship and engineered narratives.”

The site is registered through Tucows, a company that hides the identity and location of the owner of the website. But incorporation papers filed in the U.K. show that Neon Nettle is based on the outskirts of London.

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4 minutes ago, caddieman said:


Just the facts!

John Kelly defends Vindman: ‘He did exactly what we teach them to do’

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/13/john-kelly-defends-vindman-114801

 

 

Old news.......Kelly talks not obeying illegal orders.....isn't relevant here.....Vindman spoke up.....great....but he didn't use the proper chain of command......official compilation of the call was made available .....4 CIA operatives wrote it and agreed to its accuracy.......Vindman was not fired....just reassigned.....Vindmans political leanings are well documented.....

 

Vindman was one of many tools the left has tried to use to unseat Trump....all have failed.....and the left would be better off spending thier time trying to win the next election if they really want to oust Trump.....and what to they offer their base......Biden.....

Box of Rocks......."just the facts"......and who really cares what Kelly thinks.....he has an axe to grind.....     CL

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1 hour ago, caddieman said:


Talk about fake news!!!

Misinformation Directory

Neon Nettle

Neonnettle.com is a British website that posts inflammatory political stories, many with misinformation, about the U.S. and U.K. — it has a “conspiracy” section in its “news” category. It says on its “About Us” page:

“At Neon Nettle, we believe the mainstream has become less valid as it continues its ongoing practices of censorship and engineered narratives.”

The site is registered through Tucows, a company that hides the identity and location of the owner of the website. But incorporation papers filed in the U.K. show that Neon Nettle is based on the outskirts of London.

https://www.factcheck.org/2017/07/websites-post-fake-satirical-stories/

 

 

 

This is from their about section. 

They name the owner of the outlet. Not hidden.

 

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