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4 minutes ago, Markinsa said:

 

The below article is floating around facebook.  I've actually heard one of these people talk about Vindman live on air, which supports what is being said in the article.

 

So Vindman was ridiculing 'rednecks' and sneering about American exceptionalism to Russian officers?

 
 
Alexander Vindman, the vaunted National Security Council aide who recently gave Congress his haughty opinion about President Trump's phone call with the president of Ukraine, wasn't the simon-pure official just concerned about national security that he portrayed himself as earlier.

Turns out he's quite a partisan piece of work.

 

Over at American Greatness, Debra Heine found the tweets of one of Vindman's military superiors, a retired lieutenant colonel who had no choice but to verbally reprimand him.

A retired Army officer who worked with Democrat "star witness" Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman in Grafenwoher, Germany, claims Vindman "really talked up" President Barack Obama and ridiculed America and Americans in front of Russian military officers.

In an eye-opening thread on Twitter last week, retired U.S. Army Lt. Colonel Jim Hickman said that he "verbally reprimanded" Vindman after he heard some of his derisive remarks for himself. "Do not let the uniform fool you," Hickman wrote. "He is a political activist in uniform."

His series of tweets, soon after Vindman offered his anti-Trump impeachment testimony to Rep. Adam Schiff's panel, were confirmed and corroborated.  The story Heine put together from the tweets ran like this:

He was apologetic of American culture, laughed about Americans not being educated or worldly, & really talked up Obama & globalism to the point of (sic) uncomfortable.

 

He would speak w/the Russian Soldiers & laugh as if at the expense of the US personnel. It was so uncomfortable & unprofessional, one of the GS [civil service]employees came & told me everything above. I walked over & sat w/in earshot of Vindman, & sure enough, all was confirmed.

 

One comment truly struck me as odd, & it was w/respect to American's falsely thinking they're exceptional, when he said, "He [Obama] is working on that now." And he said it w/a snide 'I know a secret' look on his face. I honestly don't know what it meant, it just sounded like an odd thing to say.

 

Regardless, after hearing him bash America a few times in front of subordinates, Russians, & GS Employees, as well as, hearing an earful about globalization, Obama's plan, etc., I'd had enough. I tapped him on the shoulder & asked him to step outside. At that point I verbally reprimanded him for his actions, & I'll leave it at that, so as not to be unprofessional myself.

 

The bottom-line is LTC Vindman was a partisan Democrat at least as far back as [2013]. So much so, junior officers & soldiers felt uncomfortable around him. This is not your professional, field-grade officer, who has the character & integrity to do the right thing. Do not let the uniform fool you…he is a political activist in uniform. I pray our nation will drop this hate, vitriol & division, & unite as our founding fathers intended!

Heine then confirmed the tweets, first with Hickman himself, via his LinkedIn page, and then with Hickman's superior, Lt. Col. Thomas Lasch.

It was good reporting with cross-checking, given that something like this out on Twitter could be fake news — but apparently was found to be not.

This raises questions about the kind of people being brought into the White House, supposedly to work on "national security" at six-figure salaries.  Some of these people, such as Vindman, were Trump-hating partisans who seethed with Trump-loathing and were the first to jump at the chance to testify for the Schiff panel.  Some of them, such as the CIA employee identified by Paul Sperry as the original whistleblower, who coordinated with Schiff from the state, were also suspected leakers.  Some are people of talent.  Yet to place talent above basic, garden-variety loyalty to the country as well as respectful service to its democratically elected leader seems to be a bridge too far for the people who brought these Trump-haters in.  They're worthless and ought to be out on their ears.  Nobody is that irreplaceable.

 

Now they're coming out of the woodwork.

 

It sounds as though it's long past time for Trump to clean house.  This kind of disloyalty to the commander in chief is where it's led.  Based on the recollections of the Army men, it started early. 

 

Yeah and our president takes the word of Putin over his own agencies. We all know Putin is such a nice guy and we should take him at his word. Comparing a soldier to our president is like comparing a horse and buggy to a an Apollo rocket... When the leader of the free world trusts the leader of the evil empire we have a serious problem.

 

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7 minutes ago, bostonangler said:

 

Yeah and our president takes the word of Putin over his own agencies. We all know Putin is such a nice guy and we should take him at his word. Comparing a soldier to our president is like comparing a horse and buggy to a an Apollo rocket... When the leader of the free world trusts the leader of the evil empire we have a serious problem.

 

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Lol sorry but my first thought is that you are such a stooge.

 

If I was setup by the NSA,the Justice Dept, the FBI, the NSC and the CIA, I wouldn't trust them either.

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9 minutes ago, Shabibilicious said:

 

Hmmm....name calling now.  Not like you.  :shakehead:

 

GO RV, then BV

 

My apologies it is just tiresome when you and your buddy keep spouting crap that you've been eating from the liberal trough and we on the other side know you can't see the forest because of the trees.

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3 minutes ago, Markinsa said:

 

My apologies it is just tiresome when you and your buddy keep spouting crap that you've been eating from the liberal trough and we on the other side know you can't see the forest because of the trees.

 

No need to apologize.....and I understand your stance....as I see the same coming from the conservative troughs where Trump's name calling rhetoric is accepted as the norm.  :peace:

 

GO RV, then BV

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Just now, Markinsa said:

My apologies it is just tiresome when you and your buddy keep spouting crap that you've been eating from the liberal trough and we on the other side know you can't see the forest because of the trees.

 

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5 minutes ago, Synopsis said:

 

Maybe Adam could include the following modification noted in blue:

 

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  • DO NOT just make a negative statement and leave the person hanging out to dry. Although you may consider yourself to be an "expert" now, try to remember that we were all new and learning once upon a time. Take it easy on your fellow members!
  • Do NOT make threats or implied threats towards other members -- even if you think it's fun.

 

 

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Pettifogging by the noted Pettifoggers is NOT Decent, AND Lacks Reason, AND CERTAINLY Lacks Common Sense.

 

Pettifoggers LACK PERSONAL HONOR AND ATTEMPT TO DISHONOR HISTORICALLY HONORABLE CHARACTER QUALITIES.

 

Addressing pettifogging - OF COURSE!

 

Contrary to Dr. Spock - OF COURSE!

 

Honor is worth standing AND fighting for.

 

Pettifogging - OF COURSE NOT!!!

 

IDK....seems kind of petty and dramatic.  As always, just my opinion.  

 

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1 hour ago, bostonangler said:

You know I was shocked when I saw these statistics... I had no idea the God fearing, bible toting, conservative right had so many convicted felons... It seems to be a party of criminals.

 

Make NO mistake BA, if and when the Repubs grow some marbles the Rat criminal numbers will FAR exceed the anything any of us expect. Obuthead's party is dirty and corrupt and has been for most of my lifetime. Not saying the other party does not have skeltons in their closet, but the Rats have a much larger closet.

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1 minute ago, coorslite21 said:

Wonder how many have just tuned out because of the pettiness of late.....I can think of a few prominent ones

....value added posters.....

 

The management here might consider a longer look into the divisions being created within the site...JMO.     CL 

Could you be more specific CL?

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6 minutes ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said:

Could you be more specific CL?

 

I think he means anyone who doesn't drink the Kool-Aid... Difference of opinion and the right to express your opinions is what makes America the greatest country in history. We don't want to become a third world nation, where your opinion gets you blacklisted. Do we?

 

DV is a great example of what America is and why it is the shining light for the world. I'm happy some people here understand indifference is America. Walking in goose step is not.

 

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What would be the point of having a political section where everybody agrees with each other and simply strokes each other's egos?.....That would be completely bassackwards to the purpose of U.S. politics.....civil debate, dissenting opinions is how compromise is reached....All or nothing, Left or Right, will be the death of this country.  As always, just my opinion.

 

GO RV, then BV

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5 minutes ago, Shabibilicious said:

What would be the point of having a political section where everybody agrees with each other and simply strokes each other's egos?.....That would be completely bassackwards to the purpose of U.S. politics.....civil debate, dissenting opinions is how compromise is reached....All or nothing, Left or Right, will be the death of this country.  As always, just my opinion.

 

GO RV, then BV

 

"Civil Debate".......what a novel idea.....

 

Does this qualify?

 

"You know I was shocked when I saw these statistics... I had no idea the God fearing, bible toting, conservative right had so many convicted felons... It seems to be a party of criminals."

 

or perhaps just baiting for conflict?

 

Guess many on here were just called out as criminals.....pretty sad this rhetoric is allowed

JMO.    CL

 

 

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9 minutes ago, Shabibilicious said:

What would be the point of having a political section where everybody agrees with each other and simply strokes each other's egos?.....That would be completely bassackwards to the purpose of U.S. politics.....civil debate, dissenting opinions is how compromise is reached....All or nothing, Left or Right, will be the death of this country.  As always, just my opinion.

 

GO RV, then BV

 

2 minutes ago, Shabibilicious said:

 

Exactly.....Besides, the ignore button is always available for those who've lost the ability to continue.

 

GO RV, then BV

 

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Just now, coorslite21 said:

"Walking in goose step"

 

Guess many here just were called out as nazi's

 

More civil discourse?

 

CL

 

No not quite Nazi... Here is the definition for you because you seem a bit confused.

 

Definition of goose-step

 (Entry 1 of 2)

intransitive verb

1: to march in a goose step
2: to practice an unthinking conformity

goose step

 noun

Definition of goose step (Entry 2 of 2)

: a straight-legged stiff-kneed step used by troops of some armies when passing in review
 
 
 
 
I see no mention of Nazi in the definition.
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18 minutes ago, coorslite21 said:

"Walking in goose step"

 

Guess many here just were called out as nazi's

 

More civil discourse?

 

CL

 

You know....terms like DEMONrats and Trumpkins is no different.  We could all learn a little self restraint.....myself included.

 

GO RV, then BV

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Let’s not forget the only 2 elected people in the White House are Trump and Pence. 
Everyone else...Everyone... serves at their pleasure. 
Also the ONLY one in that building who sets foreign policy is Trump. Everyone else is there to implement that foreign policy. 
Those are facts not opinions. 
The head man is the head man. Remember Henry Ford fired Lee Iacocca, Truman fired MacArthur, Godfrey fired Larossa, Tiger Woods fired ‘Fluff’ Cowan, Steinbrenner fired Billy Martin...3 times!

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1 hour ago, Shabibilicious said:

What would be the point of having a political section where everybody agrees with each other and simply strokes each other's egos?.....That would be completely bassackwards to the purpose of U.S. politics.....civil debate, dissenting opinions is how compromise is reached....All or nothing, Left or Right, will be the death of this country.  As always, just my opinion.

 

GO RV, then BV

You DON'T compromise with people who believe that murdering a baby all the way up to birth and beyond ( in the case of a botched abortion. 

 

 

33 minutes ago, Shabibilicious said:

 

You know....terms like DEMONrats and Trumpkins is no different.  We could all learn a little self restraint.....myself included.

 

GO RV, then BV

Funny, I tried a couple of weeks ago to get everyone to tone it down  (including myself) and was attaked for my efforts. 

Where was your support then?

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