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1 hour ago, md11fr8dawg said:

Possibly violating the code, hell it was blatant and intentional!!

Pelosi had pre-torn her copy of the speech. Little tears on the leftside were evident , making it it easier to tear apart.  As this is a crime, these facts show intent. Rep Gaetz is planning on filing for an investigation . She will be investigated for life.

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1 minute ago, new york kevin said:

Yup ! Cuz they are keeping the Dems and Socialist in the rooms for the pedophiles and the liars and cheaters. Y'all need 2 rooms .

 

Nope the GOP sold their souls... They admit what Trump did was wrong, unacceptable. etc.. They refused for the first time in history to have witnesses. They put party before the constitution, their constituents, and America. They made a deal with the devil... They committed to acquittal before the trial ever started....  Talk about a sham. The GOP is in a steady decline along with the Democrats... I won't be surprised to see the rise of a new party in the near future.

 

B/A

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I'm sure not taking up for Pelosi.  What she did was dispictable.  Her crude and lying ways even after the prayer breakfast even shows more contempt for the office of the President but tearing up the speech was not a criminal offense.  This was a copy of  the Presz speech.  Only if it were to be preserved and saved in the archives would this have been recognized as a offense.  True enough she may be censured but there is no other recourse for her unspeakable actions.  She tore a copy, not the official document

 

 

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1 minute ago, bostonangler said:

 

Nope the GOP sold their souls... They admit what Trump did was wrong, unacceptable. etc.. They refused for the first time in history to have witnesses. They put party before the constitution, their constituents, and America. They made a deal with the devil... They committed to acquittal before the trial ever started....  Talk about a sham. The GOP is in a steady decline along with the Democrats... I won't be surprised to see the rise of a new party in the near future.

 

B/A

 

Why have "witnesses" when all they have is hearsay and second hand. It is not admissible. Why waste time? The CJ should have stepped in and said "Yes, there will be testimony" if he thought there should have been. 

You use the word "they" as if all the senators believe that bs. 

H*ll I would have acquitted based on the overall real evidence that is out there. 

The House bounced around so many alleged crimes and could not make any stick. 

Schiff should be convicted of lying to Congress just on his comments of Russian Collusion alone. 

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21 minutes ago, nstoolman1 said:

 

Why have "witnesses" when all they have is hearsay and second hand. It is not admissible. Why waste time? The CJ should have stepped in and said "Yes, there will be testimony" if he thought there should have been. 

You use the word "they" as if all the senators believe that bs. 

H*ll I would have acquitted based on the overall real evidence that is out there. 

The House bounced around so many alleged crimes and could not make any stick. 

Schiff should be convicted of lying to Congress just on his comments of Russian Collusion alone. 

 

Trump obstructed, by refusing any of his people to participate. Even his own party members admitted that what he did was wrong.

Both Democrats and Republicans put party before truth, justice and the American way. The lawyers lied. The politicians lied. This entire thing proved one thing. Our system is completely corrupted.

Only one man voted his conscience. Only one man put his honesty above everything else. Many say it will cost him politically. I think it will resurrect him politically.

 

B/A

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10 minutes ago, bostonangler said:

 

Trump obstructed, by refusing any of his people to participate. Even his own party members admitted that what he did was wrong.

Both Democrats and Republicans put party before truth, justice and the American way. The lawyers lied. The politicians lied. This entire thing proved one thing. Our system is completely corrupted.

Only one man voted his conscience. Only one man put his honesty above everything else. Many say it will cost him politically. I think it will resurrect him politically.

 

B/A

 

"Only one man voted his conscience. Only one man put his honesty above everything else."

 

Romney?

 

🤔

 

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😂

 

Indy

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Why did they need teh Witnesses.....Shiff, Nadler, Jefferias and the other claimed they had An Air Tight Case, A Slam Dunk, Iron Clad, They had Proved it beyond the Shadow or a doubt and on and on they went.

 

The Subpoenas they issued here Valid to start with....They Never Voted This Last go around to give them that power to start.....Every other Impeachment appempt Failed because they didn't have the Vote. 

 

This time Pelosi Just Announced her Intentions without Any Vote in the House.....No Valid Power to call anyone.

 

The Lame Stream Media was the Source of the So Called GOP Members claiming Trump was in the wrong....Fake news to further the leftist Agenda into Shaming the GOP to get in line with the Leftist Views....Did Work this time either. (other than Rino Romney) 3 others that were going to be Guilty Votes saw the Truth....The Left hadn't Proved their case.

 

Hearsay, opinions, he Though, he Came to that Conclusion, He never Spoke to Trump, Over heard a phone call and figured out what was said on the other end. The list could go on and on endlessly.

 

This go around they tryed to tie everyone into this in hopes of casting doubt and possibly stoppin anyone looking into Them and Their Dirty Dealings.

 

Pence, Barr, Guilani, Cipolone, McGhan and the rest where all in on it or so the left would have had you believe.

 

Now we wait for the next Whistle Blower to start the Next Impeachment and it is coming.

 

Karsten

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5 hours ago, bostonangler said:

 

Nope the GOP sold their souls... They admit what Trump did was wrong, unacceptable. etc.. They refused for the first time in history to have witnesses. They put party before the constitution, their constituents, and America. They made a deal with the devil... They committed to acquittal before the trial ever started....  Talk about a sham. The GOP is in a steady decline along with the Democrats... I won't be surprised to see the rise of a new party in the near future.

 

B/A

Nope ... and duh . The GOP didn't want witnesses ... ahhh garsh . Brake free of that mind set and think freely for yourself dude. The Whole Impeachment process is lime the Grand Jury Process. Congress does the Grand Jury investigation; that means they have the sole responsibility to investigate, gather evidence, and examine witnesses. Once they feel they have made their case it goes before The Jury, ie Senate for trial. The trial is won or lost based on the evidence at that point. Witnesses are basically just for the investigation part.  But wait the Dems didnt follow established protocol ... because they could. They started subpoenaing witnesses, documents and such 4 months ago, because they could. Never mind the break in protocol there. Or the violation of law and established procedure. Also never mind their procedural break (legal) regarding their ability to subpoenaing anyone or anything NOT UNTIL THE SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE ANNOUNCES AN OFFICIAL IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY. By doing so they usurped the constitution and the established separation of powers between the 3 branches of government; thus they also violated the US Constitution and violated POTUS Trumps civil and constitutional rights. Also, as the Trump Defense Team pointed out in the Senate trial, this factual break from Impeachment Protocol subpoenaing before a Impeachment Investigation is declared; makes every bit of evidence obtained prior to the declaration, fruit of the poisoned tree and thereby inadmissible in a Court of Law; Senate Impeachment Trial. Witnesses, Defense Witnesses were never allowed, they were denied, in either the Impeachment Gathering or the Impeachment Inquiry; once Nancy declared one. Defense everything was disallowed in the Impeachment Gathering. Violating Trumps rights to due process under the law. Why was every Dem denying this POTUS the right to Executive Privileges. A right expressed and given to every POTUS ever impeached in the US. All the House had to do was Petition the Supreme Court to have the witness/witnesses released from Executive Priviledge protections. But no the lazy, evil intended Dem Socialist couldn't be bothered by following the rule of law. These facts , more so than ethic violations were the reason the House Impeachment lost. Not because the Senate voted to have no NEW witnesses . What would you think of it if you were brought before a Grand Jury without the ability to defend yourself? Even OJ had a better Trial .

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And so the Next Impeachment Start, Whistles Are reading the Scripts.....The Charges this time will be that he was "Erasing History" POTUS Trump  Ordered the GOP, Ukraine, Russia and the South to remove, Bleachbit and what ever else it takes to make the leftist fail Sham Impeachment go away......

 

I can see it now Article #1 Trump Impeded our Impeachment where We Were trying to Frame him for something We have being doing for Years.

 

Article #2 He attempted, colluded, conspired and had a Quid Pro Quo (Insert name here when they figure it out) to make the fact that their Failed Impeachment in Null and Void and have it removed from the record. 

 

All done while he was MAGA and getting stuff done.

 

Now That Trump's Acquitted, GOP Vows To Erase Impeachment from Record.

https://www.westernjournal.com/now-trumps-acquitted-gop-vows-erase-impeachment-record/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=PostTopSharingButtons&utm_campaign=websitesharingbuttons&fbclid=IwAR2Sva713_du3aUP09I28Eqr9t_MdYOOlX0OlU9cXXbO_m9nMsRhIohHQ7c

 

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6 hours ago, Pitcher said:

Obama, HRC, Biden, Comey, McCabe, Strozck, Brennan, Clapper, Orr, Holder, Lynch, and many more committed numerous crimes and never were indicted.  WHY?

 

Why do they get a pass and get to break all the Laws?

We may have to wait till June 2020, when Durhams Report for his Investigation is due to be completed and handed back to The A.G. Mr Barr, for an answer to that one.

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8 hours ago, bostonangler said:

 

Trump obstructed, by refusing any of his people to participate. Even his own party members admitted that what he did was wrong.

Both Democrats and Republicans put party before truth, justice and the American way. The lawyers lied. The politicians lied. This entire thing proved one thing. Our system is completely corrupted.

Only one man voted his conscience. Only one man put his honesty above everything else. Many say it will cost him politically. I think it will resurrect him politically.

 

B/A

It is called EXECUTIVE PRIVILEGE. I capped it for to see.

That is not obstructing according to the Obama admin when he(Obama) gave EP to Eric Holder his

then AG concerning Fast and Furious. 

You keep lumping the whole Republican party into one basket when a few say something you agree with.

Romney is a RINO who flip flops as much as an Independent voter does. Can't trust him because you don't know where he stands. 

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4 minutes ago, bostonangler said:

Just wait for the next Democrat to use it... Let's see what people think then.... These guys, none of them play by the rules...

 

And, we can also see if the next Rep Congress goes after a Dem President they don’t like.  I hope they do not abuse their power the way the Dems have the last 3 years.

 

The Dems started a dangerous dangerous precedent by spying and weaponizing the Intelligence Departments of our Government to frame a President they don’t like.  In my book that’s Treason and they should all be thrown in jail as traitors.  

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Money drives the GOP and all those on the Right, plain and simple.  Money makes the world go 'round for Republicans....it's their ultimate goal and they shroud that intentions in talks of religion, morality, fiscal responsibility, and fair play.....and do the exact opposite.  So when one of their own like Romney comes along and actually channels his religious and moral teachings, all hell breaks loose among the GOP rank and file.  As always, just the facts.

 

GO RV, then BV

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