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6 minutes ago, Shabibilicious said:

 

Watched HRC, of her own free will, with no political posturing or impeding by the Obama administration, get ferociously grilled by congress for 10 plus hours over the Benghazi terror attack.  Trump hasn't the guts to do the same.....so say and believe what you will about equal justice.  We will have to just agree to disagree.

 

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ummmmm...... HRC wasn't a sitting president!  It's called separation of powers!!!  Legislative Branch does not have power over the Executive Branch.  I sure wish we still taught Civics in school!

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Summary

Congressional oversight of the executive branch is a critical part of the United States federal government’s system of checks and balances. This report provides an overview of the major forms of congressional oversight as well as the organizations involved. Congressional oversight processes include those related to investigations, impeachment, confirmation of nominees, appropriations, authorization, and budget. Congress conducts much of its oversight through committees, with the support of a number of federal  agencies and offices that investigate, audit, and provide information and analysis on executive branch activities.

I. Introduction

Under the United States Constitution, the federal government includes three branches:

  • the legislative branch, consisting of a bicameral Congress with a House of Representatives and a Senate;
  • the executive branch, consisting of the President, the Vice President, the Cabinet, and various agencies and other bodies; and,
  • the judicial branch, consisting of the Supreme Court and the federal appellate and trial courts.[1]

Although the branches of the government are distinct and, in broad terms, equal in power, the legislative branch constrains and checks the power of the executive in important ways, including by exercising oversight powers.[2]

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II. Oversight Processes

Congressional oversight of the executive branch has existed since the earliest days of the United States Congress.[3] Major processes related to congressional oversight include the investigative, impeachment, confirmation, appropriations, authorization, and budget processes.

A. Investigative Process

The Supreme Court has held that the power to investigate is implied in the Constitution’s vesting of legislative powers in Congress.[4] In furtherance of these powers, Congress may compel the disclosure of documents or require the attendance and testimony of witnesses at hearings through the issuance of subpoenas.[5] Failure to comply with a valid subpoena or the provision of false statements to Congress may result in criminal liability.[6] Investigatory hearings and reports published in conjunction with such hearings may receive extensive media attention and result in resignations, firings, or impeachment proceedings.[7]

B. Impeachment Process

The Constitution gives Congress the authority to impeach and remove the President, Vice President, and other federal civil officers after determining that the officers have engaged in treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors.[8]  While this is a critical tool for holding government officers accountable, it is rarely used,[9] and is considered a political mechanism for checking executive branch authority.[10]

C. Confirmation Process

The Constitution requires Senate confirmation for a number of high-ranking executive branch positions,[11] especially those “exercising significant authority pursuant to the laws of the  United States.”[12] This process can be used by senators to provide policy directions to and obtain commitments from nominees seeking confirmation.[13]

D. Appropriations Process

The Constitution requires appropriations measures for general government operations and certain discretionary funding.[14] Appropriations measures may include explicit statutory controls, including language constraining how the funding may be used.[15] Nonstatutory controls also exist where agencies reliant on future appropriations risk receiving less funding and becoming subject to more stringent controls if they ignore the recommendations of Congress.[16]

E. Authorization Process

Authorizing measures are pieces of legislation that establish, continue, or modify an agency, program, or activity on a permanent, annual, or multiyear basis.[17] Such measures may contain statutory controls in the form of explicit directions, as well as nonstatutory controls imposed by committees.[18]

F. Budget Process

Members of Congress can use the budget process to relate program priorities to financial claims on the national budget and incentivize the elimination of less-desirable programs in favor of more-desirable ones.[19]

 

https://www.loc.gov/law/help/parliamentary-oversight/unitedstates.php

 

Civics 101 according to the library of Congress. I'm not sure how this works in Trumpkinland

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5 minutes ago, stonewall67 said:

And now you know why our founders created the electoral college!!!!!!  LOVE IT!!!!  

 

I've no real problem with the electoral college, for everybody should have a say.  And I always find those maps that show the entire country red with little blue spots quite humorous, as I actually understand what a large population center is.....Understanding the results of the last midterm and the most recent election shows suburban women are suffering from severe buyers remorse, so November should be very interesting.  It's not often a president with great economy numbers is so far underwater in his polling numbers.  Must be a moral issue thing.  

 

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Just now, bostonangler said:

Summary

Congressional oversight of the executive branch is a critical part of the United States federal government’s system of checks and balances. This report provides an overview of the major forms of congressional oversight as well as the organizations involved. Congressional oversight processes include those related to investigations, impeachment, confirmation of nominees, appropriations, authorization, and budget. Congress conducts much of its oversight through committees, with the support system" rel="">support of a number of federal  agencies and offices that investigate, audit, and provide information and analysis on executive branch activities.

I. Introduction

Under the United States Constitution, the federal government includes three branches:

  • the legislative branch, consisting of a bicameral Congress with a House of Representatives and a Senate;
  • the executive branch, consisting of the President, the Vice President, the Cabinet, and various agencies and other bodies; and,
  • the judicial branch, consisting of the Supreme Court and the federal appellate and trial courts.[1]

Although the branches of the government are distinct and, in broad terms, equal in power, the legislative branch constrains and checks the power of the executive in important ways, including by exercising oversight powers.[2]

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II. Oversight Processes

Congressional oversight of the executive branch has existed since the earliest days of the United States Congress.[3] Major processes related to congressional oversight include the investigative, impeachment, confirmation, appropriations, authorization, and budget processes.

A. Investigative Process

The Supreme Court has held that the power to investigate is implied in the Constitution’s vesting of legislative powers in Congress.[4] In furtherance of these powers, Congress may compel the disclosure of documents or require the attendance and testimony of witnesses at hearings through the issuance of subpoenas.[5] Failure to comply with a valid subpoena or the provision of false statements to Congress may result in criminal liability.[6] Investigatory hearings and reports published in conjunction with such hearings may receive extensive media attention and result in resignations, firings, or impeachment proceedings.[7]

B. Impeachment Process

The Constitution gives Congress the authority to impeach and remove the President, Vice President, and other federal civil officers after determining that the officers have engaged in treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors.[8]  While this is a critical tool for holding government officers accountable, it is rarely used,[9] and is considered a political mechanism for checking executive branch authority.[10]

C. Confirmation Process

The Constitution requires Senate confirmation for a number of high-ranking executive branch positions,[11] especially those “exercising significant authority pursuant to the laws of the  United States.”[12] This process can be used by senators to provide policy directions to and obtain commitments from nominees seeking confirmation.[13]

D. Appropriations Process

The Constitution requires appropriations measures for general government operations and certain discretionary funding.[14] Appropriations measures may include explicit statutory controls, including language constraining how the funding may be used.[15] Nonstatutory controls also exist where agencies reliant on future appropriations risk receiving less funding and becoming subject to more stringent controls if they ignore the recommendations of Congress.[16]

E. Authorization Process

Authorizing measures are pieces of legislation that establish, continue, or modify an agency, program, or activity on a permanent, annual, or multiyear basis.[17] Such measures may contain statutory controls in the form of explicit directions, as well as nonstatutory controls imposed by committees.[18]

F. Budget Process

Members of Congress can use the budget process to relate program priorities to financial claims on the national budget and incentivize the elimination of less-desirable programs in favor of more-desirable ones.[19]

 

https://www.loc.gov/law/help/parliamentary-oversight/unitedstates.php

 

Civics 101 according to the library of Congress. I'm not sure how this works in Trumpkinland

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There ya go.  They have oversight.  So what does precedence show us?  When the Legislative Branch seeks to subpoena and seek testimony from the Executive Branch and the Executive Branch disregards that subpoena, all past Legislative Branch actions have been to seek relief from the Judicial Branch.  The left in this case decided to do an end around that precedent and go straight to Impeachment by creating a never used before crime..... "Obstruction of Congress".  

 

Please keep bringing it B/A...... Maybe we can learn more together!!

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3 minutes ago, Shabibilicious said:

 

I've no real problem with the electoral college, for everybody should have a say.  And I always find those maps that show the entire country red with little blue spots quite humorous, as I actually understand what a large population center is.....Understanding the results of the last midterm and the most recent election shows suburban women are suffering from severe buyers remorse, so November should be very interesting.  It's not often a president with great economy numbers is so far underwater in his polling numbers.  Must be a moral issue thing.  

 

GO RV, then BV

The proof will be in the pudding!  Poll numbers had Hillarious winning easily.  Heck, even exit poll numbers were indicating that.  Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan and Ohio will tell the story.  The dems are doing what the republicans have done so many times in the past.  Look at the current field of potential candidates.  The remind me of Bob Dole, Mitt Romney and John McCain.  If I was a dem, I would be worried about what options the party is giving America.  Bernie?  Old and a socialist.  Warren? Proven liar and a socialist.  Biden?  Old, liar, incoherent, sexist and don't forget...... Bribery is in his past!!!!

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19 minutes ago, stonewall67 said:

ummmmm...... HRC wasn't a sitting president!  It's called separation of powers!!!  Legislative Branch does not have power over the Executive Branch.  I sure wish we still taught Civics in school!

 

Not only did I have government class in high school.....we learned how to prepare income tax returns in that same class, 1982 was the year.  :peace:

 

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13 minutes ago, Shabibilicious said:

Watched HRC, of her own free will, with no political posturing or impeding by the Obama administration, get ferociously grilled by congress for 10 plus hours over the Benghazi terror attack.  Trump hasn't the guts to do the same.....so say and believe what you will about equal justice.  We will have to just agree to disagree

 

HRC had to put up with some grilling, a slight wrist slap for her freedom.  If she were really Investigated with a Mueller like inquisition she would probably be in jail.  

 

Trump has been investigated numerous times and according to Mueller there was no RC.  The Schiff Show was an indictment with zero due process.  If I was Trump I wouldn’t go either.   Schiff had his criminal, he was just having trouble finding real impeachable evidence.  If he and the Dems keep fishing they will get him, BUT at what cost.  Some things are best left up to the electoral process but the Dems seem to like things rigged in their favor.  It’s goung to cost them another 4 years.  

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7 minutes ago, Shabibilicious said:

Not only did I have government class in high school.....we learned how to prepare income tax returns in that same class, 1982 was the year.  :peace:

 

Is it a law that a Presidential Candidate must show his tax returns?  

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5 minutes ago, Pitcher said:

 

HRC had to put up with some grilling, a slight wrist slap for her freedom.  If she were really Investigated with a Mueller like inquisition she would probably be in jail.  

 

Trump has been investigated numerous times and according to Mueller there was no RC.  The Schiff Show was an indictment with zero due process.  If I was Trump I wouldn’t go either.   Schiff had his criminal, he was just having trouble finding real impeachable evidence.  If he and the Dems keep fishing they will get him, BUT at what cost.  Some things are best left up to the electoral process but the Dems seem to like things rigged in their favor.  It’s goung to cost them another 4 years.  

 

If another 4 years of Trump is the cost of saving one's soul, so be it.  

 

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10 minutes ago, Pitcher said:

 

HRC had to put up with some grilling, a slight wrist slap for her freedom.  If she were really Investigated with a Mueller like inquisition she would probably be in jail.  

 

Trump has been investigated numerous times and according to Mueller there was no RC.  The Schiff Show was an indictment with zero due process.  If I was Trump I wouldn’t go either.   Schiff had his criminal, he was just having trouble finding real impeachable evidence.  If he and the Dems keep fishing they will get him, BUT at what cost.  Some things are best left up to the electoral process but the Dems seem to like things rigged in their favor.  It’s goung to cost them another 4 years.  

 

Congress spent more time investigating Benghazi than it did 9/11.

 

https://www.ajc.com/news/national/congress-spent-more-time-investigating-benghazi-than-did/hlWHBsbtLlZz3UoZ5vSK9J/

 

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That’s why we have rules and Laws, so there is no ambiguity.  Both sides have trashed most procedural precedents and many of our Laws to get their way.  That’s what happens when you let a bunch of attorneys run the Government.   “I did not have sexual relations with that woman”  ”Define sex”.   That was priceless.  

 

Shabbs it’s a shiiiite show in DC.  Get out the popcorn and let these fools duke it out.  They are all wrong and ALL full of it.  

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Shabibilicious said:

Congress spent more time investigating Benghazi than it did 9/11.

 

What did Obama say, “ Elections have consequences”.  The Dems got a little power in 2018 and went right after Trump, screw getting anything done for their electorate back home.  They spend all that money trying to win the Presidency.  What they should do is say, “if you elect me I’ll get Trump by God”  It would probably work.  

 

BTW, Trump has had more Investigations than all the President’s combined, so what’s your point.  

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9 minutes ago, Pitcher said:

 

What did Obama say, “ Elections have consequences”.  The Dems got a little power in 2018 and went right after Trump, screw getting anything done for their electorate back home.  They spend all that money trying to win the Presidency.  What they should do is say, “if you elect me I’ll get Trump by God”  It would probably work.  

 

BTW, Trump has had more Investigations than all the President’s combined, so what’s your point.  

 

My point is, Trump is no more a victim of political posturing than HRC was.

 

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2 minutes ago, Shabibilicious said:

 

My point is, Trump is no more a victim of political posturing than HRC was.

 

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And the truly sad thing is that you actually believe that comment. :wacko:

 

1 minute ago, Shabibilicious said:

 

Your disparaging personal opinion, nothing more.  ;)

 

GO RV, then BV

Observation founded in a higher understanding. 

My personal opinion of you is actually quite high. If not saddened by your seemingly extraneous desire for avoiding Spiritual understanding. 

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Nine of the 20 richest counties in the US are in the Washington DC suburbs as the capital outstrips Silicon Valley in earning power

  • Loudoun County named the wealthiest in the nation in terms of median income 
  • Households in the Virginia county earned an average of $140,000 per year 
  • That compares to just $126,000 per year for households in Santa Clara County 

 

PUBLISHED: 12:36 EST, 18 December 2019 | UPDATED: 12:48 EST, 18 December 2019 

 

The Washington suburbs have been revealed as some of the richest places in the US - out-earning California's Silicon Valley. 

Loudoun County and Falls Church City, both in Virginia, topped the nation in terms of median incomes, with households earning an average of $140,000 and $137,500 per year, according to the US Census Bureau.

They far outstripped Santa Clara County in California, which makes up the majority of Silicon Valley and where the average household earns $126,000 per year.

In total, nine of the 20 wealthiest counties in the US are located in the DC suburbs.

This map shows just how concentrated the wealthiest homes are in the US. These nine counties make the top 20 list for the whole of the US.
 
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This map shows just how concentrated the wealthiest homes are in the US. These nine counties make the top 20 list for the whole of the US.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7806605/Nine-20-richest-counties-Washington-DC-suburbs.html

 
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24 minutes ago, Pitcher said:

This article clearly shows in DC everyone appears to be in on the take.  9 out of 20 of the richest counties!!!!  Not bad for an area that produces nothing but hot air.  

 

Not disagreeing with you, but please keep in mind there's a lot of high ranking military brass, military contractors, and medical professionals as well.  The strangest thing I noticed from being stationed in that area for 5 years was the lack of smoke stacks....there is literally no industry there....government, and paper pushers everywhere.

 

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3 hours ago, Shabibilicious said:

 

The only numbers in Trump's favor is in the senate.....as a country of U.S. citizens, Trump is below water.  FACT

 

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I am not sure where you get your statistics Shabs: "Gallup" is well respected and neutral, but while it is showing Trump Slightly below 50% approval, it is a far cry from underwater. 

 

When you compare President Trump to President Obama [lowest ranking in the last 65 years], you will see that President Trump enjoys a significantly higher approval than his predecessor (and that is in spite of the Impeachment issue).

 

We know what happened with Obama in spite of his low approval rating and record of poorest economic, job recovery and GNP in history. (I won't mention increases to Debt, though Trump does seem to mimic Obama and Democratic views in that area).

 

We have all been told (by the Senate) there is a zero chance of Trump being removed from office.

 

2016 Clinton was always believed to be the eventual winner (based upon polls). It seems to be proven time-and-again that conservatives typically do not answer polls, and keep their opinions to themselves. Couple that with record high economic conditions, employment and stock markets, I don't see any changes in White House stationary in the next 5 years.

 

 

Donald Trump Job Approval by Party Identification
  Republicans Independents Democrats
  % % %
2019  
2019 Dec 2-15 89 42 8
2019 Nov 1-14 90 38 4
2019 Oct 14-31 89 34 7
2019 Oct 1-13 87 34 5
2019 Sep 16-30 87 36 5
2019 Sep 3-15 91 38 5

 

 

Donald Trump's Presidential Job Approval Ratings -- Historical Comparisons
GALLUP
Average for U.S. presidents   53 1938-2019
Average for elected presidents' 12th quarter   52 various
Other elected presidents in December of third year Barack Obama 43 December 2011
  George W. Bush 58 December 2003
  Bill Clinton 51 December 1995
  George H.W. Bush 51 December 1991
  Ronald Reagan 54 December 1983
  Jimmy Carter 53 December 1979
  Richard Nixon 50 December 1971
  Dwight Eisenhower 75 December 1955

https://news.gallup.com/poll/203198/presidential-approval-ratings-donald-trump.aspx

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13 minutes ago, Caye98 said:

I am not sure where you get your statistics Shabs: "Gallup" is well respected and neutral, but while it is showing Trump Slightly below 50% approval, it is a far cry from underwater. 

 

When you compare President Trump to President Obama [lowest ranking in the last 65 years], you will see that President Trump enjoys a significantly higher approval than his predecessor (and that is in spite of the Impeachment issue).

 

We know what happened with Obama in spite of his low approval rating and record of poorest economic, job recovery and GNP in history. (I won't mention increases to Debt, though Trump does seem to mimic Obama and Democratic views in that area).

 

We have all been told (by the Senate) there is a zero chance of Trump being removed from office.

 

2016 Clinton was always believed to be the eventual winner (based upon polls). It seems to be proven time-and-again that conservatives typically do not answer polls, and keep their opinions to themselves. Couple that with record high economic conditions, employment and stock markets, I don't see any changes in White House stationary in the next 5 years.

 

 

Donald Trump Job Approval by Party Identification
  Republicans Independents Democrats
  % % %
2019  
2019 Dec 2-15 89 42 8
2019 Nov 1-14 90 38 4
2019 Oct 14-31 89 34 7
2019 Oct 1-13 87 34 5
2019 Sep 16-30 87 36 5
2019 Sep 3-15 91 38 5

 

 

Donald Trump's Presidential Job Approval Ratings -- Historical Comparisons
GALLUP
Average for U.S. presidents   53 1938-2019
Average for elected presidents' 12th quarter   52 various
Other elected presidents in December of third year Barack Obama 43 December 2011
  George W. Bush 58 December 2003
  Bill Clinton 51 December 1995
  George H.W. Bush 51 December 1991
  Ronald Reagan 54 December 1983
  Jimmy Carter 53 December 1979
  Richard Nixon 50 December 1971
  Dwight Eisenhower 75 December 1955

https://news.gallup.com/poll/203198/presidential-approval-ratings-donald-trump.aspx

 

Thank you for the information, and I apologize, as I should have said I was speaking of the latest polls coming from Trump's mothership, Fox, as many of us have been discussing lately.  Thanks again.

 

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Published 3 days ago

Fox News Poll: Trump job approval ticks up, views on impeachment steady

Trump on impeachment: Republicans will 'remember what happened' when a Democrat is president

President Trump issues a warning to Democrats after the House Judiciary Committee approves impeachment articles.

Weeks of congressional hearings and debate have failed to move the electorate on impeachment, according to the latest Fox News Poll. At the same time, approval of President Trump’s job performance has climbed three points.

Currently, 45 percent of voters approve of the job Trump’s doing, up from 42 percent in late October. Over half, 53 percent, disapprove. That lands the president almost exactly where he started the year, as 43 percent approved and 54 percent disapproved in January.

 

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The poll, conducted Sunday through Wednesday, also finds 50 percent want Trump impeached and removed from office, 4 percent say impeached but not removed, and 41 percent oppose impeaching him altogether.

CLICK HERE TO READ THE POLL RESULTS

In late October, 49 percent favored impeachment and removal, 4 percent said impeach/don’t remove, and 41 percent opposed impeachment.

 

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That’s fairly remarkable considering all that happened between those two polls.

On Tuesday, House Democrats announced two articles of impeachment against Trump for abuse of power and obstruction of Congress, and on Friday, the House Judiciary Committee adopted the articles after two days of impassioned debate. Before that, the House Intelligence Committee held five days of public hearings on impeachment, and the judiciary committee essentially hosted extended legal arguments presenting evidence from both sides.

Most Democrats (85 percent) favor impeaching/removing Trump from office, while most Republicans (84 percent) are opposed. A new high of 45 percent of independents favor impeachment, up from 38 in late October.

Overall, 53 percent of voters believe Trump abused the power of his office, 48 percent think he obstructed Congress, and 45 percent say he committed bribery.

 

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In addition, 47 percent believe Trump held up military aid to pressure the Ukrainian president to investigate his political rivals.

By a 60-24 percent margin, voters say it is generally wrong for Trump to ask leaders of foreign countries to investigate political rivals.

And the “everybody-does-it” defense falls flat: only about one in five, 22 percent, think presidents typically ask leaders of foreign countries to investigate domestic political rivals. Among Republicans, 33 percent think that is common behavior.

 

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While over half of voters, 52 percent, say the Trump administration hasn’t cooperated enough with the impeachment inquiry, views are mixed over whether congressional Democrats are running the inquiry fairly (45 percent yes vs. 42 percent no).

 

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However, more consider the actions of congressional Republicans politically motivated than say the same of Democratic lawmakers.

By a 16-point margin, voters are more likely to say Republican lawmakers just want to protect Trump politically than think Republicans truly believe what he did is not impeachable.

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By a 6-point spread, more believe congressional Democrats really think Trump committed an impeachable offense than that Democrats just want to hurt him politically.

While the impeachment vote is considered historic for lawmakers, it looks like a wash at the ballot box. Roughly equal numbers say they would be more likely (38 percent) to vote for their current House member if he or she votes to impeach Trump as would be less likely (36 percent).

Some 23 percent of voters approve of the job Congress is doing. That’s up from 21 percent in October and is the best rating for lawmakers since October 2018. Sixty-two percent disapprove.

Pollpourri

Voters narrowly say House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is better at Washington gamesmanship than Trump (41-37 percent). Women are more likely to say Pelosi is better by 10 points, while men pick Trump by 3 points.

 

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Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz testified before the Senate Judiciary Committee Wednesday about the origins of the FBI investigation of the Trump campaign.

Fifty-three percent of voters believe it is at least somewhat likely the FBI broke the law when investigating the campaign: 22 percent say “extremely” likely, 14 percent “very” likely, and 17 percent “somewhat” likely.

Republicans (71 percent) are nearly twice as likely as Democrats (38 percent) to think there is a chance the FBI broke the law.

Conducted December 8-11, 2019, under the joint direction of Beacon Research (D) and Shaw & Company (R), this Fox News Poll includes interviews with 1,000 randomly chosen registered voters nationwide who spoke with live interviewers on both landlines and cellphones. The poll has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 3 percentage points for all registered voters.

 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-trump-job-approval-ticks-up-views-on-impeachment-steady

 

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48 minutes ago, Shabibilicious said:

 

I gotta give you credit, your view of yourself is quite spectacular.   :peace:

 

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Not my view of myself, just acknowledgment of my willingness to listen to the Holy Spirit. Which is as HIGH UP as you can go. Thus I understand your error in judgment. 

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