bogus anti-vacination study making the rounds, again.

[EverCurious452]

 

In the https://dinarvets.com/forums/index.php?/forum/54-natural-cures-and-health-talk/ forum, where I of course can not post,

BigWave posts https://dinarvets.com/forums/index.php?/topic/270398-vaccinated-vs-unvaccinated/

 

This is the same bogus study that was retracted from the first journal that published it and has been retracted again from the one shown in the article

show in the link in the post above.  Check https://retractionwatch.com/2017/05/08/retracted-vaccine-autism-study-republished/ .

 

If there was any link between any systemic diseases and vaccinations then the very large high quality studies would have found some difference wrt those diseases between vaccinated and unvaccinated groups, but they have not.  It's only these bogus papers with horrible methodology and preordained outcomes that manage to do so.  Don't believe it for a second.

 

[Markinsa]

39 minutes ago, EverCurious452 said:

then the very large high quality studies would have found some difference wrt those diseases between vaccinated and unvaccinated groups

 

Who pays for those "very large high quality studies?"

 

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[EverCurious452]

It varies.  A lot of them by the CDC (i.e. our tax dollars).  https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concerns/autism.html

This one (27,000+ Canadian children) was by McGill University and Montreal Children's Hospital https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16818529

There are many such studies, google / pubmed is your friend if you want to get at the truth here.

Is it possible that some studies get some funding (at least indirectly) from vaccine manufactures?  Sure.  Tracking down all sources of funding is difficult. But there are so many of these studies done in some many different places and none of which has found this claimed link.  If it was true that the rate of autism in children receiving the MMR vaccine was even 10% higher, let alone 470% higher (as claimed in the paper posted in the other forum) than in children who did not receive it, that result would not be possible to remain hidden in these (widely reviewed and analyzed) studies.

 

[bigwave]

On 12/10/2019 at 7:35 PM, EverCurious452 said:

In the https://dinarvets.com/forums/index.php?/forum/54-natural-cures-and-health-talk/ forum, where I of course can not post,

BigWave posts https://dinarvets.com/forums/index.php?/topic/270398-vaccinated-vs-unvaccinated/

Wow I am super busy right now otherwise I would kick your butty all night long on this topic.

 

You like gobermets check out:

CDC’s Vaccine Safety Datalink - you will find things like:

 

• Generation 1: CDC’s Unpublished Verstraeten Study on HepB Showed Dramatic Increased Risk of Autism (7.6X), Sleep Disorders (5X), Speech Disorders (2.1X) and Neurodevelopmental Disorders (1.8X);
• DTP and Tetanus Vaccinations Increase the Odds of Allergies (1.63X) in Children;
• Hepatitis B Vaccines Increase the Odds for Special Education by 8.63X;
• Hepatitis B Vaccines in Male Newborns Increased the Odds of Autism 3X;
• Flu Shot Increases Rate of Non-Flu Infection 4.4X;
• DTP Increases Mortality in Girls 10X;
• Vaccination of Preemies Increased Odds of Neurodevelopmental Disorders 6.6X;
• Vaccination Increases Risk of Allergic Rhinitis (30X), Allergy (3.1X), ADHD (4.2X), Autism (4.2X) Eczema (2.9X), Learning Disability (5.2X) and Neurodevelopmental Disorders (3.7X).

Don't get me started!

 

Do a little research and don't get the flu shot either knuckle head!

[EverCurious452]

Since whoever you are cutting and pasting this from doesn't give references its hard to comment on the specific claims. Searching at the CDC Vaccine Safety Datalink page (https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/ensuringsafety/monitoring/vsd/publications.html)  did not turn up any of the claimed results that I checked (I didn't have the patience to go over all of them).

If you want to converse on this (or any) subject with me you'll have to learn a little courtesy and get Adam to take me off of permanent mod review so I can respond in a timely manner.

 

Edited December 13, 2019 by EverCurious452
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[SocalDinar]

I survived vaccinations 40+ years ago .

i even remember getting them done at elementary school. We all stood in line for the pneumatic shot . 

But maybe these millennials were given something different because so many of them have problems. 

i have never had a flu shot either. And I have not had the flu for a long long time.

 

 

Edited December 14, 2019 by SocalDinar

[md11fr8dawg]

Guys, I need some help pronto. Someone posted an article about MD Anderson in Houston and taking his cancer treatment on himself within the last week to 10 days.I thought I saved it and now I need it and so far cannot find it. Please help me by posting it if you have it. Thanks in advance

[Shedagal]

10 hours ago, md11fr8dawg said:

Guys, I need some help pronto. Someone posted an article about MD Anderson in Houston and taking his cancer treatment on himself within the last week to 10 days.I thought I saved it and now I need it and so far cannot find it. Please help me by posting it if you have it. Thanks in advance

JimH posted some info on Adam's December 4th weekly post.  Not sure how to link it for you.  Hope this helps.

[md11fr8dawg]

Found it, Thank you so much Shedagal.