slb Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 Is this Allawi Sunni or Shia ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregHi Posted February 1, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 5 minutes ago, slb said: Is this Allawi Sunni or Shia ? I asked my friend and his response was funny.. ”Actually I'm not sure what is he, but the PM should be Shia ”They chose him just like all previous PM. They will not choose one that put them in jail” 2 5 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slb Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 For some reason I thought he was Sunni... Which would be better for the Kurds and worse for the Iranians. 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slb Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 From a 2012 article , appears to be Sunni. Iraq's communications minister has resigned, accusing Prime Minister Nouri Maliki of refusing to stop "political interference" in his ministry. Mohammed Tawfiq Allawi, a member of the Sunni-backed Iraqiyya bloc, said he had submitted his resignation a month ago, but that it had only now been accepted. There has been no word yet from the prime minister on the allegations. 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkeiller Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 Mohammed Allawi appointed new Iraq PM, protesters reject him Ex-minister named as Iraq prime minister-designate, but anti-government demonstrators say he is part of ruling elite. by Linah Alsaafin an hour ago Newly appointed Prime Minister of Iraq, Mohammed Tawfiq Allawi, appealed to protesters in his first speech [Prime Minister media office] MORE ON IRAQ Fallujah residents in Iraq: 'We have had our share of protests'yesterday Pentagon seeks Iraqi permission to deploy missile defences2 days ago US House votes to repeal Iraq war authorisation2 days ago Iraq: In the shadow of US-Iran tensions2 days ago Baghdad, Iraq – Anti-government protesters in Iraq were quick to dismiss President Barham Salih’s appointment of Mohammed Tawfiq Allawi as prime minister-designate, as rallies took place in the capital and cities in the country's southern provinces. The president’s announcement came after he issued an ultimatum to Iraq's fractious parliament, warning that if they did not appoint a new premier by Saturday he would do so himself. But anti-government protesters did not welcome the announcement, with hundreds in the capital's Tahrir Square chanting "Mohammed Allawi, rejected!", videos posted on social media showed. In the southern city of Nasiriyah, protesters issued a statement saying they categorically rejected Allawi's selection. "He is the compromised candidate that belongs to the sectarian power sharing political system (muhasasa) we are protesting against, and does not represent the aspirations of the protest sites," the statement said. "Based on this, our response will be to escalate things stronger than on previous occasions." Allawi’s appointment, the statement continued, was brought about "by the same criminal, corrupt class that brought us to where we are now". Since October, anti-government protesters have called for a complete overhaul of the country’s ruling political elite and an end to corruption. Their demands include the appointment of a politically independent candidate as prime minister, early elections, and holding accountable those who have killed at least 500 protesters so far. Despite ex-prime minister Adel Abdul Mahdi resigning on December 1, he continued in a caretaker capacity until a new prime minister was chosen, leading to a two-month deadlock that resulted in the protesters accusing the government of deliberate stalling. 'We will escalate' Allawi, 65, served as a communications minister under the government of former prime minister Nouri al-Maliki in 2006 and 2010. Two years later, he resigned from his post, accusing al-Maliki of "political interference" in his ministry. Moments after his appointment was announced, Allawi shared a pre-recorded video on his Twitter page, where he addressed the protesters directly. "My power is derived from you," he began. "If it were not for your courage and sacrifices then there would have been no changes in the country." "You protested for your homeland, and if I am not able to fulfill your demands that I am unworthy of this position," he added. However, protesters in the capital reacted with dismay, saying that he represented the old ruling elite. One protester, 25-year-old Yousef Abd, said there is "no doubt we reject Allawi in the position of prime minister". "If the government insists on forcing him on us we will definitely escalate things," he told Al Jazeera via telephone from Tahrir Square. Mohammed Aqeel, another protester agreed. "The general feeling from most protest sites is that they view Allawi as being cut from the same cloth as the politicians in power," he told Al Jazeera. "He belongs to the same system we don't want." According to Aqeel, large student demonstrations were expected to take place on Sunday against Allawi’s appointment, which he hoped would unite the protest movement in Tahrir. Earlier on Saturday, skirmishes had taken place between Sadrist supporters and politically independent protesters, after the former took over the strategic Turkish restaurant building and drove out the other protesters from there. The Sadrists, along with members of an affiliated militia Saraya al-Salam, had rejoined the protest a week after their leader and head of the largest bloc in parliament Muqtada al-Sadr announced his withdrawal. But on Friday, Sadr called for a renewal of "the peaceful reformist revolution". Test of 'independence' Sajad Jiyad, managing director of Bayan Centre, a think-tank, told Al Jazeera there had been an agreement between the largest parties in Parliament to nominate Allawi. "Now that has happened we can expect a lot of negotiation around cabinet formation and this will be a test to see how much independence Allawi has and how much support for his nominees to the cabinet he can get from the parties in Parliament," he said. Jiyad added that protesters who have rejected Allawi's nomination believe he will be "beholden to the same political system they accuse of corruption and are protesting against". Political analyst Sarmad al-Bayati, said it was still too early to see what affect the appointment of Allawi would have. "Allawi was not a new name to be suggested as a candidate ... But I don't think he represents the aspirations of the Iraqi people," he told Al Jazeera. "He will probably face the same limitations that Adel Abdul Mahdi experienced," he noted. According to the constitution, a replacement for Abdul Mahdi should have been identified fifteen days after his resignation in early December. Instead, it has taken rival blocs nearly two months of jockeying to select Allawi as their consensus candidate. Abdul Mahdi's rise to power was the product of a provisional alliance between parliament's two main blocs - Sairoon, led by Shia leader Moqtada al-Sadr, and Fatah, which is headed by Hadi al-Amiri and includes leaders associated with the paramilitary Popular Mobilisation Forces (PMF, or Hasdh al-Shaabi). SOURCE: AL JAZEERA NEWS https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/02/iraq-president-appoints-mohammed-allawi-pm-state-tv-200201150554113.html 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkeiller Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 This news could speed up the RV, as he is going to have to do something to please the crowd, even if that is the tough job of flushing the pro-Iranians in the govt., militias, and Sadr's goons? 1 4 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laid Back Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 He don’t represent the aspirations of Iraqi people. He’s an Iraqi Shia. In my opinion it will be the same, Iran interventionism and rampant corruption 2 3 1 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinarrock Posted February 2, 2020 Report Share Posted February 2, 2020 LB do you have something that shows he is Shia? Slb posted above you saying he was from the Sunni bloc, just curious? 2 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umbertino Posted February 2, 2020 Report Share Posted February 2, 2020 (edited) 13 hours ago, Laid Back said: He don’t represent the aspirations of Iraqi people. He’s an Iraqi Shia. In my opinion it will be the same, Iran interventionism and rampant corruption Agreed.....They do need a radical change in the Country...Some could call it a Revolution....Which should be carried on by Iraqis only with no outside intervention / influence by whomever.....We'll see Edited February 2, 2020 by umbertino 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carrello Posted February 2, 2020 Report Share Posted February 2, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, Dinarrock said: LB do you have something that shows he is Shia? Slb posted above you saying he was from the Sunni bloc, just curious? Law requires that the 3 heads of Iraqi government are represented by a Kurd, a Sunni and a Shia: President is a Kurd (Saleh), Speaker of the House is a Sunni (Halbousi), and the Prime Minister is a Shia (i.e., Allawi, Mahdi, Maliki). Edited February 2, 2020 by Carrello 2 3 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slb Posted February 2, 2020 Report Share Posted February 2, 2020 So now this article from BBC says shia. sorry for confusion... Appear even news outlets are confused. In a video released on his social media accounts on Saturday, Mr Allawi announced that he had been nominated and called on Iraqis to continue protesting until their demands were met. "If not for your sacrifices and your bravery, there would have been no change in the country," he said. "I believe in you, and for this reason I will ask you to continue protesting." He promised to hold those responsible for the killing of protesters accountable and to combat corruption. Mr Allawi, who is Shia, studied and worked in Lebanon and the UK before entering Iraqi politics following the 2003 invasion. He served as minister of communications twice. 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laid Back Posted February 2, 2020 Report Share Posted February 2, 2020 9 hours ago, Dinarrock said: LB do you have something that shows he is Shia? Slb posted above you saying he was from the Sunni bloc, just curious? Dinarrock, thanks for you input. Read Carrello’s comment. 3 hours ago, umbertino said: Agreed.....They do need a radical change in the Country...Some could call it a Revolution....Which should be carried on by Iraqis only with no outside intervention / influence by whomever.....We'll see umbertino, totally agree with you.! 45 minutes ago, Carrello said: Law requires that the 3 heads of Iraqi government are represented by a Kurd, a Sunni and a Shia: President is a Kurd (Saleh), Speaker of the House is a Sunni (Halbousi), and the Prime Minister is a Shia (i.e., Allawi, Mahdi, Maliki). Carrello, long time no see, my friend. Thanks for your comment. 😊 4 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
presence Posted February 2, 2020 Report Share Posted February 2, 2020 Thats hilarious Thugs! Really non-stop on your part. Tiure a cure for misery and despression at times.... Pitcher makes a good point: Perhaps Adam.should amend the rules on this site to include a statement stating or suggesting that people not eat drink or carry scolding hot substances when reading your comments! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screwball Posted February 4, 2020 Report Share Posted February 4, 2020 On 2/3/2020 at 1:34 AM, Carrello said: Law requires that the 3 heads of Iraqi government are represented by a Kurd, a Sunni and a Shia: President is a Kurd (Saleh), Speaker of the House is a Sunni (Halbousi), and the Prime Minister is a Shia (i.e., Allawi, Mahdi, Maliki). Thanks didn’t know this this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Montana Posted February 4, 2020 Report Share Posted February 4, 2020 On 2/2/2020 at 8:34 AM, Carrello said: Law requires that the 3 heads of Iraqi government are represented by a Kurd, a Sunni and a Shia: President is a Kurd (Saleh), Speaker of the House is a Sunni (Halbousi), and the Prime Minister is a Shia (i.e., Allawi, Mahdi, Maliki). May be more "tradition" than law, but the two are hard to tell apart sometimes. On 2/2/2020 at 1:41 PM, presence said: Perhaps Adam.should amend the rules on this site to include a statement stating or suggesting that people not eat drink or carry scolding hot substances when reading your comments! The "rules" here haven't changed in years but that one might be worth adding 3 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alloywheelmaster Posted February 4, 2020 Report Share Posted February 4, 2020 6 hours ago, Adam Montana said: May be more "tradition" than law, but the two are hard to tell apart sometimes. The "rules" here haven't changed in years but that one might be worth adding Quick Easy question Have a friend that wants to buy some dinar where would I send them. I bought mine 10 yrs ago not sure what to to him Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umbertino Posted February 4, 2020 Report Share Posted February 4, 2020 On 2/1/2020 at 7:11 PM, slb said: For some reason I thought he was Sunni... Which would be better for the Kurds and worse for the Iranians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dretown39 Posted February 4, 2020 Report Share Posted February 4, 2020 31 minutes ago, alloywheelmaster said: Quick Easy question Have a friend that wants to buy some dinar where would I send them. I bought mine 10 yrs ago not sure what to to him Thanks Safe Dinar, Treasury Vault, Xchange of America, & and try Ebay as well 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Kenny_Logins Posted February 6, 2020 Report Share Posted February 6, 2020 After reading this thread, I thought I'd make a Shia friend at work. He turned out to be a supporter of the Iranian regime. So yeah, that backfired. 1 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregHi Posted February 6, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2020 Tonight my friend was visibly upset. He said in Najaf, his hometown there were 4 more protestors killed. He said if he could fly home and join the protests he would. “When is enough going to be enough”, was his words.. somebody, anybody needs to do something about this endless killing of protestors. 7 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckFinley Posted February 6, 2020 Report Share Posted February 6, 2020 2 hours ago, GregHi said: Tonight my friend was visibly upset. He said in Najaf, his hometown there were 4 more protestors killed. He said if he could fly home and join the protests he would. “When is enough going to be enough”, was his words.. somebody, anybody needs to do something about this endless killing of protestors. GregHi, i agree that this has to come to an end. Iraq will never move on until the killing stops. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WheresmyRV? Posted February 6, 2020 Report Share Posted February 6, 2020 Sadr needs to have his neck stretched, he is part of the chaos that's been going on. 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siberian_shaddow Posted February 6, 2020 Report Share Posted February 6, 2020 When corruption is involved and as deep as it is there. The Iranian stronghold will go to the ends of the earth to hang on, there willing to do what ever is necessary in there eyes And that means killing anyone who stands against them. Unfortunately more innocents will die before there pushed back far enough. I am glad the Iragi's are standing up for themselves, but its going to take time. Go Irag and GM DV 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umbertino Posted February 6, 2020 Report Share Posted February 6, 2020 13 hours ago, Kenny_Logins said: After reading this thread, I thought I'd make a Shia friend at work. He turned out to be a supporter of the Iranian regime. So yeah, that backfired. It seems that mr. Suleimani was in Iraq in order to organize and set up a repression machine against the protesters ( among other things) since they had done same in Iran.......As soon as they get their stuff together there will be a Revolution in Iran 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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