The Liberals aren't going to like this one bit....Trump going after the Cartels in Mexico

[SgtFuryUSCZ]

 

The drug cartels are the equivalent of terrorist orgs.

 

Everything they do do entire regions & humanity is no different than the ISIS, et al.

And they despise US as much as the M.E. terrorists do.

 

Mexico's president stated his approach is "hugs, not bullets"... as he happily handed over 

el cheapo's son they had just apprehended back over to the cartel.

 

If he's going to be a sniveling coward and back down with his effing kumbaya bulls--t,

he'd better be ready to lose all ties with US and be prepared to see US Armed Forces

at his border in full force.

 

Our Commander-In-Chief doesn't take kindly to terrorists... or cowards.

 

.

 

[Karsten]

Humm, Maybe this is the reason the United States Government can't win the War on Drugs?

 

CONFIRMED: The DEA Struck A Deal With Mexico's Most Notorious Drug Cartel

 

https://www.businessinsider.com/the-us-government-and-the-sinaloa-cartel-2014-1

 

Karsten

[Karsten]

Another Family Attacked by Cartel in Northern Mexico–One Dead

 

https://www.breitbart.com/border/2019/11/08/another-family-attacked-by-cartel-in-northern-mexico-one-dead/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&fbclid=IwAR33tdTR2HAzOIryA_hgwhv1J8xoiMm3FXFLpT7HiXNihZkvyyT4I6oxkNk

 

Karsten

[MyLadiesDaddy]

1 hour ago, Karsten said:

Another Family Attacked by Cartel in Northern Mexico–One Dead

 

https://www.breitbart.com/border/2019/11/08/another-family-attacked-by-cartel-in-northern-mexico-one-dead/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&fbclid=IwAR33tdTR2HAzOIryA_hgwhv1J8xoiMm3FXFLpT7HiXNihZkvyyT4I6oxkNk

 

Karsten

I'm sorry but wiping out the Cartels is the one war America should really be fighting. I Know the Democratic Socialists Party love them but they are only slightly above that scum called ISIS.

[SgtFuryUSCZ]

15 hours ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said:

I'm sorry but wiping out the Cartels is the one war America should really be fighting. I Know the Democratic Socialists Party love them but they are only slightly above that scum called ISIS.

HEAR !  HEAR !

[Karsten]

Relative of Mormons massacred in Mexico goes on CNN, tells Americans “fight for those guns”

 

https://www.disrn.com/2019/11/11/fight-for-those-guns-says-relative-of-massacred-utah-family/?fbclid=IwAR0TgZacpqeH9zOEhVDhWCczqI1Z3F5npzWXJy8LHeK86ygxFLTiLDrcK0I

 

Karsten

[MyLadiesDaddy]

OH SNAP!!!!!!!!

 

 

[SgtFuryUSCZ]

On 11/27/2019 at 1:52 PM, ladyGrace'sDaddy said:

OH SNAP!!!!!!!!

 

 

 

 

Good.

 

Unlike team Ho'bummer - who gives guns & money to terrorist groups whilst

telling our Troops we're not allowed to fight back,

this Commander-In-Chief is no apologist and certainly no coward !  

[yota691]

MEXICAN CARTEL VIOLENCE

Published 22 hours ago

Mexico gunbattle near Texas border between suspected cartel members, police leaves at least 21 dead

By Travis Fedschun | Fox News

 

At least 21 people killed in a gunbattle near Texas border between suspected members of the drug cartel and police; Fox News contributor Tom Homan weighs in.

Four police officers were among nearly two dozen people killed after security forces engaged in an hour-long gunbattle with suspected cartel members Saturday in a Mexican town near the U.S. border, days after President Trump said he was moving to designate Mexican drug cartels as terror organizations.

The shootout happened around noon in the small town of Villa Union, a town in Coahuila state located about an hour’s drive southwest of Eagle Pass, Texas.

 

Coahuila state Gov. Miguel Angel Riquelme told local media that four of the dead were police officers killed in the initial confrontation and that several municipal workers were missing. On Sunday, the Coahuila state government said that security forces killed seven additional members of the gang, bringing the death toll to at least 21.

THE IMPACT OF DESIGNATING MEXICAN CARTELS A 'FOREIGN TERRORIST ORGANIZATION'

The armed group of suspected cartel members stormed the town of 3,000 residents in a convoy of trucks, attacking local government offices and prompting state and federal forces to intervene. Ten alleged members of the Cartel of the Northeast were initially killed in the response.

 

The City Hall of Villa Union is riddled with bullet holes after a gun battle between Mexican security forces and suspected cartel gunmen, Saturday, Nov. 30, 2019. (AP Photo/Gerardo Sanchez)

Riquelme told reporters the state had acted “decisively” to take back the town, as videos of the shootout posted on social media showed burned-out vehicles and the facade of Villa Union’s municipal office riddled with bullets.

 

The City Hall of Villa Union is riddled with bullet holes after a gun battle between Mexican security forces and suspected cartel gunmen, Saturday, Nov. 30, 2019. (AP Photo/Gerardo Sanchez)

A damaged black pickup truck with the C.D.N. of the Cartel del Noreste, or Cartel of the Northeast, written in white on its door could be seen on the street in an Associated Press photo.

 

A damaged pick up marked with the initials C.D.N., that in Spanish stand for Cartel of the Northeast, is on the streets after a gun battle between Mexican security forces and suspected cartel gunmen, in Villa Union, Mexico, Saturday, Nov. 30, 2019. (AP Photo/Gerardo Sanchez)

Riquelme told reporters that police had identified 14 vehicles involved in the attack and seized more than a dozen guns. Three of the suspected gunmen were killed by security forces in the initial pursuit of the gang members as they fled into rugged terrain, according to Reuters.

In the wake of the assault, the governor said that security forces will remain in the town for several days to restore a sense of calm. The town is about 12 miles from the site of a 2011 cartel massacre where officials say 70 died.

“These groups won’t be allowed to enter state territory,” the government of Coahuila said in a statement.

 

Mexico’s murder rate has increased to historically high levels, inching up by 2 percent in the first 10 months of the presidency of Andrés Manuel López Obrador. Federal officials said recently that there have been 29,414 homicides so far in 2019 – up from 28,869 over the same period last year.

Members of family massacred in Mexico had been previously victimized by cartel violence

Nine Americans were killed when their convoy was ambushed in broad daylight by gunmen believed to be affiliated with a drug cartel; insight from Robbie Whelan, Wall Street Journal correspondent covering Latin America.

The release of the figures comes at a time when López Obrador is facing growing criticism for his government’s "hugs, not bullets" policy of not using violence when fighting violent drug cartels.

In early November, Mexico made international headlines when a drug cartel ambush killed nine Americans, focusing world attention on rising violence in the country.

The three women and six children -- all members of dual-citizen families that lived in La Mora, a decades-old settlement in the Sonora State founded as part of an offshoot of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints -- were on their way to see relatives in the U.S when they were targeted about 70 miles south of Douglas, Ariz., by cartel members.

 

At the time, Trump called on Mexico to "wage war" on the cartels.  He told author and former Fox News Channel host Bill O'Reilly in an interview posted last week his administration is "well into that process" to designate drug cartels as terror organizations. While the president did not indicate how the U.S. policy would change from past years, Trump said he told López Obrador that the U.S. stands ready to "go in and clean it out."

 

At least 14 people were killed, four of them police officers, after an armed group in a convoy of trucks stormed the town, in Coahuila state, prompting security forces to intervene, state Gov. Miguel Riquelme Solis said. (AP Photo/Gerardo Sanchez)

On Friday -- the day before the deadly gunbattle -- Mexico's president said he would not accept any foreign intervention in Mexico to deal with violent criminal gangs after Trump’s comments.

 

A damaged pick up is on a street of Villa Union, Mexico, after a gun battle between Mexican security forces and suspected cartel gunmen on Saturday. (AP Photo/Gerardo Sanchez)

Riquelme on Saturday made similar comments to Lopez Obrador on how Mexico should handle the problem.

“I don’t think that Mexico needs intervention. I think Mexico needs collaboration and cooperation,” he told reporters. “We’re convinced that the state has the power to overcome the criminals.”

U.S. Attorney General William Barr is scheduled to visit Mexico this week to discuss cooperation over security, according to Reuters.

Fox News' Greg Norman, Edmund DeMarche and the Associated Press contributed to this report.

[bostonangler]

Personally I think that is great... The cartels need to be broken up. I'm glad Trump wants to legalize marijuana. He should legalize all drugs. Then they would be regulated and taxed. Go ask any high school kid what's easier to get drugs or alcohol. They will tell you drugs. The conservative War on drugs has been an epic failure and a waste of money.

 

B/A

[nstoolman1]

1 hour ago, bostonangler said:

Personally I think that is great... The cartels need to be broken up. I'm glad Trump wants to legalize marijuana. He should legalize all drugs. Then they would be regulated and taxed. Go ask any high school kid what's easier to get drugs or alcohol. They will tell you drugs. The conservative War on drugs has been an epic failure and a waste of money.

 

B/A

Yes, let's make heroin and cocain legal. Let's just get ready for increased overdoses and morgue attendance.

I am sure as the price drops users will get smarter an be able to regulate their usage. 

[bostonangler]

1 minute ago, nstoolman1 said:

Yes, let's make heroin and cocain legal. Let's just get ready for increased overdoses and morgue attendance.

I am sure as the price drops users will get smarter an be able to regulate their usage. 

 

Yup they should all be legal and regulated... When you buy drugs on the street you have no idea what you are buying. When you buy it from the pharmacy you know exactly what you are getting... Go ask your grandkids if they can buy drugs or alcohol. The answer will be drugs because they don't have to go to a store and show their id.

 

And like people in the 1920's thought if alcohol was legal everyone would be a drunk. They were wrong then and those who believe that now are wrong. Trust me if heroin or cocaine became legal tomorrow. not everyone would become drug addicts. And of course the hundreds of billions we spend on losing the war on drugs would be better spent on rehab and education...

 

B/A

[nstoolman1]

I am not concerned with non users becoming addicted.

I am talking about the present addicts that for lack of money aren't using more. Lower the price and watch the use go up. 

 

 

 

[bostonangler]

3 minutes ago, nstoolman1 said:

I am not concerned with non users becoming addicted.

I am talking about the present addicts that for lack of money aren't using more. Lower the price and watch the use go up. 

 

 

 

 

If someone is a drug addict and has no money, they don't just stop using.... Why are people breaking into homes and cars or mugging people on the street or shoplifting? It's not because they are buying food.

 

Sending billions to South American governments doesn't work. We've tried that for 30 years... Spending money on rehab and education is a better direction. You'll never stop people from using drugs, but you can take the money out the cartels... That was the point of this thread. Cartels... If our government thinks they will stop the cartel's trillion dollar business by making more laws, that is a plan for failure... To win, you must stop the money from flowing to them and you do that by making drugs legal and taxing them.

 

B/A

Edited December 2, 2019 by bostonangler