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5 hours ago, Karsten said:

 

4 hours ago, Shabibilicious said:

 

There's got to be some type of income tax records they could examine.  I'm sure Hunter wouldn't mind turning them over......any transparent person with nothing to hide would willingly give up income tax information.  B)

 

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Who needs IRS records? The Ukranians have provided all the proof. 

 

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Well, Just look at that.....Will Ya, No way I can imagine that there would be any connection.....No way...just look at that

 

Key impeachment witness linked to Soros, Hunter Biden

 

https://freepressers.com/articles/oops-obama-biden-ukraine-links-keep-surfacing?fbclid=IwAR1I4jdPddxSHAk1C9h8XuurNLEd3yWu9W7K6HTuxvkzxyD4whTvvtHElwg

 

 

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23 hours ago, Shabibilicious said:

For those of you riding the "hearsay" train.....be rest assured decorated LTC Vindman's testimony will not be "hearsay" and his patriotic service to the United States of America is above reproach to anybody exercising intellectual integrity.....However, I've gotten ahead of myself, for that smackdown testimonial comes next week.

 

GO RV, then BV 

 

This re-run is getting old, and pretty embarrassing for the Democrats. If you are putting your eggs in this basket then get ready for another let down.

 

The problem is that you are reading and listening to propaganda that's feeding your bias and in turn, your hopes for what you want to happen. When you do this, you ignore the BIG and BOLD evidence of all of the criminal actions by the previous administration and the current Democrat Party.

 

As long as you and the rest of the LEFTIST on this forum ignore the obvious FACTS and TRUTH before you, and instead put your hopes and dreams into made-up conspiracy theories, you will sorely be disappointed.

 

Indy

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5 minutes ago, Indraman said:

 

This re-run is getting old, and pretty embarrassing for the Democrats. If you are putting your eggs in this basket then get ready for another let down.

 

The problem is that you are reading and listening to propaganda that's feeding your bias and in turn, your hopes for what you want to happen. When you do this, you ignore the BIG and BOLD evidence of all of the criminal actions by the previous administration and the current Democrat Party.

 

As long as you and the rest of the LEFTIST on this forum ignore the obvious FACTS and TRUTH before you, and instead put your hopes and dreams into made-up conspiracy theories, you will sorely be disappointed.

 

Indy

 

Pot....kettle....black.  As always, just my opinion.

 

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3 minutes ago, Shabibilicious said:

 

Pot....kettle....black.  As always, just my opinion.

 

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Exactly Shabs ! Russian collusion ... There is definitive proof Trump did all.this. He is going down. Dont be in his boat. Mueller report ... sufficient evidence to justify the investigation ... 35 million later , 500 subpoenas, 2000 witnesses (or some such thing) . Blah, blah, blah, bang , bang, later insufficient evidence Trump colluded with the Russians and Ukranians. Plenty of proof the D NC and HRC campaign did thou. Elimination of due process in this current investigation via Congress. Only one side, the Dems, can subpoena witnesses, or evidence. Only Dems can examine witnesses, no cross examination. Only Dem or Dem witnesses can have counsel in these cr ap hearings. They got away with doing that with Flynn denying due process while investigating him. We all deserve our civil rights, even POTUS Trump. Deny it to one socialist deny it for all who do not toe their line. Hail Pelosi, hail Schiff ... basstards .

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11 minutes ago, new york kevin said:

Exactly Shabs ! Russian collusion ... There is definitive proof Trump did all.this. He is going down. Dont be in his boat. Mueller report ... sufficient evidence to justify the investigation ... 35 million later , 500 subpoenas, 2000 witnesses (or some such thing) . Blah, blah, blah, bang , bang, later insufficient evidence Trump colluded with the Russians and Ukranians. Plenty of proof the D NC and HRC campaign did thou. Elimination of due process in this current investigation via Congress. Only one side, the Dems, can subpoena witnesses, or evidence. Only Dems can examine witnesses, no cross examination. Only Dem or Dem witnesses can have counsel in these cr ap hearings. They got away with doing that with Flynn denying due process while investigating him. We all deserve our civil rights, even POTUS Trump. Deny it to one socialist deny it for all who do not toe their line. Hail Pelosi, hail Schiff ... basstards .

 

Tell me again why Mulvaney, Bolton and the rest of Donald's protectors aren't just talking to the Republicans on these committees, while stonewalling the Dems....What is Trump trying to hide if he won't even allow his people to talk to the Republicans?  Interesting, don't you think?

 

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It this little thing given to Presidents, it's called Executive Priviledge. Least members of an opposing try and look I to the day to day dealings of the POTUS and then try and twist the innocent and secret dealings they alone do on behalf of the US citizenry, and try to weave it into something illegal when its not. POTUS has got to conduct domestic and foreign policy.

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4 minutes ago, new york kevin said:

It this little thing given to Presidents, it's called Executive Priviledge. Least members of an opposing try and look I to the day to day dealings of the POTUS and then try and twist the innocent and secret dealings they alone do on behalf of the US citizenry, and try to weave it into something illegal when its not. POTUS has got to conduct domestic and foreign policy.

 

It seems any information Trump would allow his staunchest handlers to give to the Republican members of the committees would be useful in defending him.  Weird that he would keep them from that.

 

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Shabs. You are aware that the way Hair Schiff has set up the rules governing the procedures of this impeachment do not provide for POTUS Trump TO defend himself. Republican witnesses cannot bring in Legal Counsel. The Reps cannot subpoena the witnesses they want. Dem witnesses are barely allowed to cross examine or object to claims witnesses make. All foundation stones to setting up and implementing a Defense in Modern Court/Grand Jury proceedings. Rest assured that this Congressional Hearing is akin to a Grand Jury. Congress deems sufficient evidence to refer the case to the Senate for "trial" , it goes.to the Senate. Who will allow commonly excepted practices of examining and cross examining , impuning witness testimony. Legal Counsel present for both sides ... yada, yada. The Senate just may examine the facts in evidence, inquire as to how they were obtained, while examining the procedures through which they were obtained and declare the procedures denied the common rights of a defendant. Then declare the evidence fruit of a poisoned green and Chuck the whole thing out. I understand the Constitution says nothing abt Impeachment procedures except that Congress shall set them. Precident also was set as to how Impeachments should be set up with Nixons and Clintons impeachment inquiries. Counsel for the defense and plaintiffs. If the Socialists will abuse these proceeding to a sitting President of the US, can you imagine the rights and priviledges of the common citizen with little to no money ? American have got to wake up to this potential reality . It's not a conspiracy theory its the bad azz gang and gang leader fighting to take over the hood inorder to place their control over the people that live here. Where rights are what they say they are and not what the people say they are. Trump is the Jackie Chan and Chuck Norris that is fighting the best he can . He is slowly winning ground, albiet very slowly. As more and more people get behind him more will support him and fight with him. Just wait till the Durham/Barr criminal investigation completes its job. Who will be charged then ! What song will the A.O.C. Party be singing then ? They should remember social media videos are forever. X22 baby.

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12 minutes ago, new york kevin said:

Shabs. You are aware that the way Hair Schiff has set up the rules governing the procedures of this impeachment do not provide for POTUS Trump TO defend himself. Republican witnesses cannot bring in Legal Counsel. The Reps cannot subpoena the witnesses they want. Dem witnesses are barely allowed to cross examine or object to claims witnesses make. All foundation stones to setting up and implementing a Defense in Modern Court/Grand Jury proceedings. Rest assured that this Congressional Hearing is akin to a Grand Jury. Congress deems sufficient evidence to refer the case to the Senate for "trial" , it goes.to the Senate. Who will allow commonly excepted practices of examining and cross examining , impuning witness testimony. Legal Counsel present for both sides ... yada, yada. The Senate just may examine the facts in evidence, inquire as to how they were obtained, while examining the procedures through which they were obtained and declare the procedures denied the common rights of a defendant. Then declare the evidence fruit of a poisoned green and Chuck the whole thing out. I understand the Constitution says nothing abt Impeachment procedures except that Congress shall set them. Precident also was set as to how Impeachments should be set up with Nixons and Clintons impeachment inquiries. Counsel for the defense and plaintiffs. If the Socialists will abuse these proceeding to a sitting President of the US, can you imagine the rights and priviledges of the common citizen with little to no money ? American have got to wake up to this potential reality . It's not a conspiracy theory its the bad azz gang and gang leader fighting to take over the hood inorder to place their control over the people that live here. Where rights are what they say they are and not what the people say they are. Trump is the Jackie Chan and Chuck Norris that is fighting the best he can . He is slowly winning ground, albiet very slowly. As more and more people get behind him more will support system" rel="">support him and fight with him. Just wait till the Durham/Barr criminal investigation completes its job. Who will be charged then ! What song will the A.O.C. Party be singing then ? They should remember social media videos are forever. X22 baby.

 

While I appreciate the time and effort you put forth here, you still completely ignored my point/question.  What is keeping Mulvaney, Guiliani, Bolton, etc etc from simply interviewing with the Republican members of the committees?  Just call them up and spill the beans, easy peasy.  Would that not help them defend Trump?  There's simply no reason for Trump to keep them from doing that unless he's concerned what they might say.  That said, as I've asked you twice now.....I must conclude we are at an impasse and must simply agree to disagree.

 

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Watching the big show today.....The President can remove/appoint a diplomat/ambassador any time he wants.....the idea that Trump had to spend months setting this Lady up is comical.....you're fired!......just how he rolls.....

 

I also thought this whole thing was about the funding with- held because of a Biden connection.....she has no involvement in any of that....

 

Just a side note........look up what people make in her occupation.......then her net worth........did I miss her book?.....or is she a Market wizzz... 

 

Still looks like a fishing expedition to me......and of course today so far......only one side has spoken.....

 

CL

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6 minutes ago, coorslite21 said:

Watching the big show today.....The President can remove/appoint a diplomat/ambassador any time he wants.....the idea that Trump had to spend months setting this Lady up is comical.....you're fired!......just how he rolls.....

 

I also thought this whole thing was about the funding with- held because of a Biden connection.....she has no involvement in any of that....

 

Just a side note........look up what people make in her occupation.......then her net worth........did I miss her book?.....or is she a Market wizzz... 

 

Still looks like a fishing expedition to me......and of course today so far......only one side has spoken.....

 

CL

 

It would be useful to know what Donald meant by "she's going to go through some things"....What does that mean?  If she's simply being recalled/fired then that is just one thing, not "some things".  What else could he possibly do to her besides fire her?  Sounds eerie to me and very intimidating.....Guido speak, if you will.....which as history has shown, very seldom ends positively for the person being talked about.

 

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Thanks Shabs for the upload. Also, to clarify what I said before sort of; when testifying to the Republicans on this committee it goes into the record for the entire committee. I dare say it would also legitimize a illegitimate proceding; due to the lack of due process so far.  If they testified to the Republicans the Dems could cross examine. Ask questions about everything they (the dems) colluded on to weave into their false narrative that POTUS Trump committed a crime that rises to the level of a high crime and misdemeanor. Personal opinions, personal concerns, political differences, I feel he should have phrased it this way ... and so on do not constitute a crime . Let alone a Presidentially impeachable crime. Even the Obama admin had concerns about the preveilent corruption inside Ukraines gov. While its been a while since I read the transcript I still hold to the jist of the call being about that. Yeah he mentioned Joe Biden and Hunter, but Joe himself bragged that he as V.P quid pro quo'ed the Ukranians into painting their former Prosecutor as slime worthy of firing, and then they fired him. And then they got their billion dollars of aid. A billion dollars of blankets. 😉The Democratic Party and the Democrat Congressional Reps and Deep Staters are weaponizing the impeachment process. A fear the founding Fathers had and wanted to avoid. Least we become like the government we overthrew. The government that weaponized laws and even religion to conduct business of the relm . 

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11 minutes ago, new york kevin said:

Thanks Shabs for the upload. Also, to clarify what I said before sort of; when testifying to the Republicans on this committee it goes into the record for the entire committee. I dare say it would also legitimize a illegitimate proceding; due to the lack of due process so far.  If they testified to the Republicans the Dems could cross examine. Ask questions about everything they (the dems) colluded on to weave into their false narrative that POTUS Trump committed a crime that rises to the level of a high crime and misdemeanor. Personal opinions, personal concerns, political differences, I feel he should have phrased it this way ... and so on do not constitute a crime . Let alone a Presidentially impeachable crime. Even the Obama admin had concerns about the preveilent corruption inside Ukraines gov. While its been a while since I read the transcript I still hold to the jist of the call being about that. Yeah he mentioned Joe Biden and Hunter, but Joe himself bragged that he as V.P quid pro quo'ed the Ukranians into painting their former Prosecutor as slime worthy of firing, and then they fired him. And then they got their billion dollars of aid. A billion dollars of blankets. 😉The Democratic Party and the Democrat Congressional Reps and Deep Staters are weaponizing the impeachment process. A fear the founding Fathers had and wanted to avoid. Least we become like the government we overthrew. The government that weaponized laws and even religion to conduct business of the relm . 

 

Interesting opinion, Kevin.  The republican committee members are indeed cross examining the witnesses though, so one must conclude that these proceedings are legitimate, or the Republicans would have simply skipped the whole thing and not shown up.  In fact the opposite is true....they actually went out and head hunted Jim Jordan to be on this committee so he could perform the bull dog questioning he's become known for.  That seems pretty legit to me.  Have a nice weekend and let's see what next week's circus brings.  :peace:

 

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14 minutes ago, Shabibilicious said:

 

Interesting opinion, Kevin.  The republican committee members are indeed cross examining the witnesses though, so one must conclude that these proceedings are legitimate, or the Republicans would have simply skipped the whole thing and not shown up.  In fact the opposite is true....they actually went out and head hunted Jim Jordan to be on this committee so he could perform the bull dog questioning he's become known for.  That seems pretty legit to me.  Have a nice weekend and let's see what next week's circus brings.  :peace:

 

GO RV, then BV

You are the last person who I would ever have thought was naieve. Hello, Reps were denied every witness they wanted subpoenaed et at.

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2 hours ago, Shabibilicious said:

 

It would be useful to know what Donald meant by "she's going to go through some things"....What does that mean?  If she's simply being recalled/fired then that is just one thing, not "some things".  What else could he possibly do to her besides fire her?  Sounds eerie to me and very intimidating.....Guido speak, if you will.....which as history has shown, very seldom ends positively for the person being talked about.

 

GO RV, then BV

Then take the history of Trump.......where is the body count?

 

There are whole websites dedicated to the Clinton body count......

 

She was recalled.....told to head home immediately for her safety.....yet it hasn't be established who and why......could have that individual been mistaken.....confused.....just wrong?

 

Same story line......what has she testified to that would be an impeachable offense?

 

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Um folks, every single diplomat works at the pleasure of the POTUS . They can be replaced for any reason or no reason. You wanna talk Fed Employee body counts take President Obama. He sent out a notice to every career diplomat that their services would no longer be needed after his inauguration.  No one is complaining about that. It is actually an excellent move in my opinion for any new POTUS. It allows them to ensure that they have people in these key career positions that they can work with. People that more than likely will work within the POTUS foreign policies. As each should do. Why , POTUS Trump did not do this himself is beyond me. Such practices are done in the corporate world all the time. When one company buys another company, the new company brings in all their people in all key positions. Additionally, if Trump feels anyone is no longer promoting his foreign policies as he sees fit, there is nothing wrong with getting someone else .

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21 hours ago, Shabibilicious said:

 

Interesting opinion, Kevin.  The republican committee members are indeed cross examining the witnesses though, so one must conclude that these proceedings are legitimate, or the Republicans would have simply skipped the whole thing and not shown up.  In fact the opposite is true....they actually went out and head hunted Jim Jordan to be on this committee so he could perform the bull dog questioning he's become known for.  That seems pretty legit to me.  Have a nice weekend and let's see what next week's circus brings.  :peace:

 

GO RV, then BV

WOW, coming from you that's grasping for strings. Talk about conspiracy theories. 

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