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On 10/8/2019 at 8:23 AM, Synopsis said:

 

Please commence with the conniption in the beauty that is ALL You, Carrello!!!

 

Iya DO NOT take information at face value from ANY source UNTIL I can independently verify ESPECIALLY considering verified HISTORICAL information.

 

Iya DO NOT know Brian Kilmeade's ideological, philosophical, AND/OR political frame of reference AND DO NOT KNOW IF Brian Kilmeade's assessment HAS CONSIDERED ALL THE VERIFIABLE FACTS.

 

Iya "care" NOT for Brian Kilmeade's "credibility" WHATEVER THAT MAY BE.

 

Iya DO ACTUALLY Think FOR MYSELF AND "encourge" YOU, Carrello, TO "do" THEE "same" AS I NOTED PRIOR.

 

Ultimately, Muddle Eastern Countries ACTUALLY "exercising" THEIR "constructive" SOVEREIGNTY INDEPENDENTLY AND COOPERATIVELY SERVES EVERYONE WELL.

 

Long term "foreign" "actors" DO NOT AID IN REMEDYING "local" "issues" LONG TERM.

 

ARE, pray tell, Syrian lives being lost TODAY in Syrian Turdish, er, Kurdish areas TODAY WITH The United States Of America Service Person's Presence???!!!

 

YES, of course!!!

 

SO WHAT, pray tell, IS THEE "big" "deal" WITH THE PULL OUT OF THEE REMAINING fifty (50) The United States Of America Service Persons???!!!

 

Go Moola Nova!

:pirateship:

 

You really are hilarious. Trump needs you on his team.

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On 10/8/2019 at 11:13 AM, Synopsis said:

 

HEAR!!! HEAR!!!

 

Go Moola Nova!

:pirateship:

 

Greatest president? Then why is the FOX poll from last night stating more than half of Americans not only want Trump impeached but removed from office ? Is FOX wrong or are Americans just drunk? Do a handful of DV posters know more than half of the United States of America voters? Who is deranged? A handful or half the country?

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9 hours ago, utah rock said:

Trump is running this country and it's reputation, you don't leave you'er allies out like that, to be butcher. Not cool for them and a hug SHAME on us. 

Guy is off the rail (trump)!!!

 

But Utah, as trump said yesterday, "The Kurds did not help us in WWII, they didn't help us with the invasion of Normandy."  So we will let them die.

 

Facts, if you can handle them: The Kurds were requested to work with US military to fight ISIS by the US. The Kurds lost 11,000 men and women running point on the fight freeing over 1,000,000 people enslaved by ISIS. In the ISIS fight, according to our military generals, we lost 6 military men in this fight. We supplied arms, training, pay to the Kurds. Looks like it was worth it to me. 

 

Pulling out 50 US military opened the flood gates of death for the Kurds and may allow the resurrection of ISIS furthering death and destruction. 

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13 hours ago, Floridian said:

So!  It didn't take the Turks long to invade, did it?

They totally ignored Trump's threat to ruin their economy if they invade.  

So what happens next?

I can't figure out what's wrong with people, that they just can't get along.

 

Floridian, I am not going to give you facts, but check out the amount of businesses Trump has in Turkey (it's in the hundreds). What do you think Erdogan threatened Trump with on their phone call. Do some research and you might see the thread. Trump will never sanction Turkey because it affects his bottom line. And then ask yourself why Trump does not want anyone seeing his tax returns. 

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Trump threatens to wipe out Turkey's economy

Trump threatens to wipe out Turkey's economy

10 October 2019 11:16 AM
Direct: US President Donald Trump once again threatened to wipe out Turkey 's economy has been eliminated if the Kurds, while members of Congress have prepared sanctions imposed on Ankara because of its incursion in Syria.

The US president said in comments to the press on Wednesday, it could erase Turkey's economy once it eliminates the Kurds in northern Syria.

Turkey began yesterday a military operation in northern Syria to eliminate the terrorist corridor in the border and bring peace and tranquility, according to Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan.

This was not the first time that the US president has threatened to destroy Turkey's economy , where he previously wrote on Twitter that he pledges to destroy Turkey's economy if it exceeds the limits allowed.

Trump made clear in his comments yesterday that he had done this before, referring to the case of Rev. Bronson, but expressed the hope that Erdogan will act in a rational manner.

Turkey's intervention in Syria comes after Trump was given the green light to carry out the military operation by withdrawing US troops from the region.

"If the Kurds and Turkey lose control, the United States has already transferred two ISIS fighters linked to beheadings in Syria out of the country and into a safe place controlled by the United States," Trump wrote in a tweet yesterday on his Twitter account.

 

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But in return, the US Congress prepared sanctions in preparation for the imposition of Turkey on the launch of a military operation in northeastern Syria, known as the "spring of peace."

Republican Senator Lindsey Graham and Democratic Senator Chris Van Hollen presented a blueprint for mandatory sanctions for unilateral intervention by Turkey in Syria.

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Graham published the terms of his agreement with Holin, noting that these sanctions would be immediate and would have far-reaching consequences for Erdogan and his army.

The Republican senator wrote in another tweet that the majority of members of Congress believe it would be wrong to abandon the Kurds, who were strong allies of the United States against ISIS.

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But it is not yet clear whether the legislation has been passed.

By 8:11 am GMT, the Turkish currency settled against the US dollar at 5.8704 pounds.

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People wave as Turkish soldiers prepare to cross the border into Syria on Wednesday.
People wave as Turkish soldiers prepare to cross the border into Syria on Wednesday. (Burak Kara/Getty Images)
 

Turkey launched a military assault against U.S.-allied Kurdish forces in Syria on Wednesday after President Trump cleared the way by pulling American troops out of the region — a move that prompted bipartisan outrage on Capitol Hill.

But, as Turkish ground troops began invading the Kurdish-controlled territories Wednesday afternoon after a volley of airstrikes, Trump sent mixed signals and threatened to impose “far more than sanctions” on Turkey if it doesn’t handle the volatile situation in a “humane way."

“I’ve already told that to President Erdoğan: far more than sanctions. I’ll do far more than sanctions,” Trump said during an unrelated event at the White House, referring to Turkish leader Recep Tayyip Erdoğan. “I will tell you that I do agree on sanctions, but I think much tougher, if he does not do it in a humane way.”

The president did not explain what “far more than sanctions” meant or what a “humane” Turkish invasion of Syria would look like. “We’re going to have to define that as we go along,” he said.

 

Erdoğan wants to claim northern parts of Syria to create a “safe zone” where he can host millions of Syrian refugees who fled into Turkey after civil war broke out in the war-torn country eight years ago.

 

The authoritarian Turkish leader considers the U.S.-allied Kurds currently controlling that region to be terrorists and have made clear he aims to target them in his military campaign.

While Trump played loose on the details, some of his most steadfast allies in Congress broke their rigid loyalty and pledged to punish Turkey for its attack on the Kurds, longtime U.S. allies that have been credited with rooting out ISIS from Syria.

“America is better than this. Please stand up to Turkey, Mr. President,” Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) tweeted at Trump after announcing a package of “severe” punitive sanctions on Turkey co-introduced with Sen. Chris Van Hollen (D-Md.).

 

Graham, typically one of Trump’s most prominent congressional boosters, added, “While the administration refuses to act against Turkey, I expect strong bipartisan support.”

As political tensions brewed in the U.S. capital, bloodshed began in Syria.

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At least seven civilians and one member of the U.S.-backed Kurdish-led Syrian Democratic Forces had been killed in Turkish airstrikes as of late Wednesday, according to monitoring groups. Thousands of civilians, meanwhile, were fleeing the area on foot as Turkish forces approached.

 

It’s unknown if the chaos would prompt Trump to retaliate against Erdoğan. The White House did not respond to a call seeking comment.

Trump ordered the withdrawal of U.S. forces from northern Syria on Sunday after a phone call with Erdoğan. The American troops had served as a safeguard against Turkish aggression and as protection for the Kurdish forces in the area.

Trump says he campaigned on ending U.S. military involvement overseas and that this week’s abrupt troop withdrawal comports with that message. “We’re getting out of the endless wars, have to do it,” Trump said at the White House.

 

But military and national security experts on both sides of the aisle say the troop draw-down could cause a reemergence of ISIS, as Kurds may have to start fighting Turkey in the north instead of guarding areas that were previously controlled by the Islamic extremists.

“There is still time to reverse this decision and avoid this foreign policy blunder,” Rep. Dan Crenshaw (R-Texas), a former Navy SEAL and veteran of the war in Afghanistan, tweeted at Trump.

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26 minutes ago, Carrello said:

half of Americans not only want Trump impeached but removed from office ?

Bahhaa Good morning Ms.C. You really believe those polls? The same polls that had Crooked Hillarious winning the 2016 Presidency by 98%. I hate to break the news but when 2020 roll's around Trump will be reelected and win not by a Landslide again, but a margin that never been witness in any Presidential Election...

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11,000 Kurds died fighting ISIS and now the US is abandoning them — who will help America next time?

 
Oct 8, 2019, 12:21 PM
 
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Members of Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) stand together near Baghouz, Deir Al Zor province, Syria February 12, 2019  Rodi Said / REUTERS

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  • US President Donald Trump's announcement late Sunday night that the US would withdraw troops from northeastern Syria was a stunning betrayal of the US's Kurdish partner forces in the fight against ISIS, military leaders and experts say.
  • Kurdish forces have sustained nearly 11,000 casualties in the fight against ISIS; now, they prepare for a new battlefront against a Turkish invasion into Syrian territory they control, while the US watches.
  • "The value of an American handshake is depreciating," Brett McGurk, who resigned from his post as Special Presidential Envoy for the Global Coalition to Counter ISIL last December over Trump's announcement that he would pull all US troops from Syria, tweeted. 
  • "Trump today said we could 'crush ISIS again' if it regenerated," McGurk wrote. "With who? What allies would sign up? Who would fight on his assurances?"

Kurdish fighters led the assault on ISIS strongholds across Syria alongside US special operations trooops brutally attackining entrenched ISIS fighters at a devastating cost.

 

President Donald Trump's decision to pull US troops out of a so-called "safe zone" in northeastern Syria leaves these forces and their compatriots at the mercy of Turkish forces and President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, who has made no secret of his desire to launch an invasion there. Military leaders say Trump's abandonment of an ally in the fight against ISIS is a grave mistake.

"This policy abandonment threatens to undo five years' worth of fighting against ISIS and will severely damage American credibility and reliability in any future fights where we need strong allies," retired Gen. Joseph Votel, the former head of US Central Command who oversaw the campaign against ISIS, wrote in The Atlantic on Tuesday. 

 

The US is abandoning the Kurdish elements of the Syrian Democratic Forces to fight against Turkish forces, who threaten their territory from the north. Turkey views the Kurdish fighters as terrorists, an extension of the Kurdish Worker's Party (PKK) in Turkey, which has fought back — sometimes violently — against state-sanctioned oppression there. 

 

As Votel outlines in The Atlantic, the Kurdish forces were the only suitable regional allies in the fight against ISIS — the only group sufficiently trained and strategically savvy enough to fight alongside the US and defeat ISIS's territorial caliphate, which it did in a series of stunning victories. 

 

Kurdish forces liberated "tens of thousands of square miles and millions of people from the grip of ISIS," as Votel says. In return, they sustained 11,000 casualties and lost their American buffer against the threat of Turkish invasion.

'The value of an American handshake is depreciating.'

When Trump originally declared that he was pulling US troops from Syria in late 2018, Secretary of Defense James Mattis resigned, saying the president deserved a defense secretary who shared his views.

 

In his recent book "Call Sign Chaos: Learning To Lead," Mattis wrote of his decision to resign: "When my concrete solutions and strategic advice, especially keeping faith with allies, no longer resonated, it was time to resign, despite the limitless joy I felt serving alongside our troops in defense of our Constitution" — the allies, in this case, reportedly being the Kurds.

 

"The consequences of such unreliability from the Oval will reverberate well beyond Syria," Brett McGurk, the former Special Presidential Envoy for the Global Coalition to Counter ISIL, tweeted Monday in response to Trump's abrupt decision. 

 

"The value of an American handshake is depreciating," continued McGurk, who resigned from his post last December over Trump's announcement that he would pull all US troops from Syria. 

 

In abandoning Kurdish forces to the will of Turkey, the US also decreases regional stability and risks gains against ISIS. As a Pentagon Inspector General report from August found, ISIS is resurging in Iraq and Syria; now, with Kurdish attention focused on fighting Turkey at the border, approximately 11,000 ISIS militants in makeshift prisons guarded by SDF fighters are that much more likely to break out of captivity and wreak havoc, Votel writes. 

 

But as McGurk wrote, "Trump today said we could 'crush ISIS again' if it regenerated. With who? What allies would sign up? Who would fight on his assurances?"

 

 

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Article from General Votel

JOSEPH VOTEL served as commander of U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM) from March 2016 to March 2019. As commander of CENTCOM, Votel oversaw military operations across the region, including the campaign against the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria.

 

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The Danger of Abandoning Our Partners

The Syria policy reversal threatens to undo five years’ worth of fighting against ISIS and will severely damage American credibility and reliability.

JOSEPH VOTELELIZABETH DENT
Oct 8, 2019
A U.S. soldier watches Syrian Democratic Forces raise a flag in the background. A U.S. soldier oversees members of the Syrian Democratic Forces as they raise a Tal Abyad Military Council flag.HANDOUT VIA REUTERS
 

The abrupt policy decision to seemingly abandon our Kurdish partners could not come at a worse time. The decision was made without consulting U.S. allies or senior U.S. military leadership and threatens to affect future partnerships at precisely the time we need them most, given the war-weariness of the American public coupled with ever more sophisticated enemies determined to come after us.

 

I (Joseph Votel) first met General Mazloum Abdi at a base in northern Syria in May 2016. From the start, it was obvious he was not only an impressive and thoughtful man, but a fighter who was clearly thinking about the strategic aspects of the campaign against ISIS and aware of the challenges of fighting a formidable enemy. He could see the long-term perils from the civil war, but recognized that the most immediate threat to his people was ISIS. After a fitful start in Syria, I concluded that we had finally found the right partner who could help us defeat ISIS without getting drawn into the murkier conflict against Bashar al-Assad’s regime.

 

 

The Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF), initially composed of the Kurdish People’s Protection Units (YPG), was then conceived: a fighting force that eventually grew to 60,000 battle-hardened and determined soldiers. The decision to partner with the YPG, beginning with the fight in Kobane, was made across two administrations and had required years of deliberation and planning, especially given the concerns of our NATO ally Turkey, who regards the SDF as an offshoot of the designated terrorist group the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK). Eventually, the YPG became the backbone of the fighting force against ISIS in Syria. Without it, President Donald Trump could not have declared the complete defeat of ISIS.

 

With support from what grew to be the 80-member Coalition to Defeat ISIS, which included air power, advisers on the ground, and equipment, the SDF became a force to be reckoned with and led a string of victories. In August 2016, it liberated the Syrian town of Manbij, which once functioned as a hub for ISIS fighters to cross into Turkey and is believed to be where the attackers who carried out the November 2015 Paris attacks transited. Mindful of the need for credibility as it pushed to liberate Arab-dominated areas, the YPG had succeeded in incorporating Arab units into its structure as a united Arab-Kurd fighting force. That force, the SDF, went on to liberate the so-called capital of the caliphate, Raqqa, and towns in the Middle Euphrates River Valley, culminating in the territorial defeat of ISIS in Baghouz this past March.

 

Read: Top military officers unload on Trump

 

Over four years, the SDF freed tens of thousands of square miles and millions of people from the grip of ISIS. Throughout the fight, it sustained nearly 11,000 casualties. By comparison, six U.S. service members, as well as two civilians, have been killed in the anti-ISIS campaign. Key to this effective relationship was mutual trust, constant communication, and clear expectations. The partnership was not without its difficulties. That included working through the December 2018 announcement of our sudden departure and our subsequent agreement with Turkey to pursue a security mechanism for the border areas. But each time, the strong mutual trust built on the ground between our military members and the SDF preserved our momentum. The sudden policy change this week breaks that trust at the most crucial juncture and leaves our partners with very limited options.

 

It didn’t have to be this way. The U.S. worked endlessly to placate our Turkish allies.

We engaged in countless rounds of negotiations, committing to establishing a security mechanism that included joint patrols in areas of concern to the Turks, and deploying 150 additional U.S. troops to help monitor and enforce the “safe zone.” Yet Ankara repeatedly reneged on its agreements with the U.S., deeming them inadequate and threatening to invade SDF-held areas, despite the presence of U.S. soldiers.

 

 

A possible invasion from Turkey against the Kurdish elements of the SDF, coupled with a hasty U.S. departure, now threaten to rapidly destabilize an already fragile security situation in Syria’s northeast, where ISIS’s physical caliphate was only recently defeated. Nearly 2,000 foreign fighters, about 9,000 Iraqi and Syrian fighters, and tens of thousands of ISIS family members are being held in detention facilities and displaced-persons camps in areas under SDF control. What happens if we leave? The SDF has already stated that it will have to fortify defense mechanisms along the Syrian-Turkish border, leaving ISIS detention facilities and encampments with little to no security. This is particularly troubling, given that Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, the self-proclaimed caliph of ISIS, recently called on supporters to break fighters out of these facilities. There have also been violent attacks in the al-Hol refugee camp, where tens of thousands of women and children are housed and where ISIS sympathy runs rampant.

 

The Pentagon and White House later clarified that the U.S. was not abandoning the Kurds and did not support a Turkish incursion into Syria. But the damage may already be done, because it appears the Turks have taken the shift to signal a green light for an attack in the northeast. This policy abandonment threatens to undo five years’ worth of fighting against ISIS and will severely damage American credibility and reliability in any future fights where we need strong allies.

 

 
General JOSEPH VOTEL served as commander of U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM) from March 2016 to March 2019. As commander of CENTCOM, Votel oversaw military operations across the region, including the campaign against the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria. Before CENTCOM, he was the commander of the U.S. Special Operations Command (SOCOM) and the Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC). General Votel is a non-resident Distinguished Senior Fellow on National Security at the Middle East Institute (MEI).
ELIZABETH DENT is a non-resident fellow at MEI on counterterrorism and worked in various capacities at the State Department for the U.S. Global Coalition to Defeat ISIS from 2014 to 2019.

 

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There is one thing that all of us here have in common: We are all dinar investors, and this move by Trump has put this investment into "NOT GOING to HAPPEN FOR A LONG LONG TIME" mode. Years. We all have had our dreams dashed and thrown in the dumpster. But the good news: The Kurds are having an even worse day.

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On 10/8/2019 at 9:21 AM, Floridian said:

 

Agree 100%.

That's the problem!  So many have lost God, and now anything goes!  

Very scary to raise children these days.  So, so sad for our children and grandchildren.   

 

Floridian, please do more research other than Right Radical sites and news. Please. So much of what you say is just not true, ie., Democrats do not kill babies when they are born and abort them at 9 months killing them. Please. This is nonsense and if true, there would be a lot of people charged with murder and in prison. Abortion is a woman's right. Killing a baby is another.

 

Another thing: I don't understand why the Right condemns people that were born sexually differently than the norm. Aren't we all created by God? And, yes, Democrats believe in God and God does guide us in our morals and values. God never advocated someone being able to "grab em..." at any time. 

 

Here is a link for info on trump's business in Turkey. It's thorough IMO. Thanks. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-impeachment-inquiry/donald-trump-s-longtime-business-connections-turkey-back-spotlight-n1064011

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1 hour ago, Carrello said:

You really are hilarious. Trump needs you on his team.

 

1 hour ago, Carrello said:

Greatest president? Then why is the FOX poll from last night stating more than half of Americans not only want Trump impeached but removed from office ? Is FOX wrong or are Americans just drunk? Do a handful of DV posters know more than half of the United States of America voters? Who is deranged? A handful or half the country?

 

1 hour ago, Carrello said:

But Utah, as trump said yesterday, "The Kurds did not help us in WWII, they didn't help us with the invasion of Normandy."  So we will let them die.

 

Facts, if you can handle them: The Kurds were requested to work with US military to fight ISIS by the US. The Kurds lost 11,000 men and women running point on the fight freeing over 1,000,000 people enslaved by ISIS. In the ISIS fight, according to our military generals, we lost 6 military men in this fight. We supplied arms, training, pay to the Kurds. Looks like it was worth it to me. 

 

Pulling out 50 US military opened the flood gates of death for the Kurds and may allow the resurrection of ISIS furthering death and destruction. 

 

59 minutes ago, Carrello said:

Floridian, I am not going to give you facts, but check out the amount of businesses Trump has in Turkey (it's in the hundreds). What do you think Erdogan threatened Trump with on their phone call. Do some research and you might see the thread. Trump will never sanction Turkey because it affects his bottom line. And then ask yourself why Trump does not want anyone seeing his tax returns. 

 

12 minutes ago, Carrello said:

 

There is one thing that all of us here have in common: We are all dinar investors, and this move by Trump has put this investment into "NOT GOING to HAPPEN FOR A LONG LONG TIME" mode. Years. We all have had our dreams dashed and thrown in the dumpster. But the good news: The Kurds are having an even worse day.

 

Please commence with the conniption in the beauty that is ALL You, Carrello!!!

 

54 minutes ago, yota691 said:

“I’ve already told that to President Erdoğan: far more than sanctions. I’ll do far more than sanctions,” Trump said during an unrelated event at the White House, referring to Turkish leader Recep Tayyip Erdoğan. “I will tell you that I do agree on sanctions, but I think much tougher, if he does not do it in a humane way.”

 

FACTS:

  • There were ONLY fifty (50) The United States Of America Service Persons REMAINING in Syria FOR THEE TOTAL "withdrawal". Yeah, AS GOOD AS The United States Of America Services REALLY ARE, no tellin' what "major" "artillery" could "deplete" THESE "forces". BEST idea to pull them out.
  • THEE Syrian Turds, er, Kurds REALLY NEED TO STEP UP AND GET AFTER THEM TO INCLUDE SECURING LOCAL AND OTHER WHIRLED ALLIES FOR THEIR CAUSE.
  • WHAT, pray tell, IS THEE REAL REASON THEE Syrian Turds, er, Kurds ARE AN ALLY OF The United States Of America???!!!
  • THIS MOVE BY The True The United States Of America Patriot President Donald J Trump IS ESSENTIAL TO REVEAL THE MOTIVES AND INTENT OF MALICIOUS ACTORS IN THE REGION SO APPROPRIATE ACTION CAN BE TAKEN.
  • SEVERAL Major Whirled Countries ARE DENOUNCING Twerkish "aggression" IN Syrian Turdistan, er, Kurdistan AND UN Security Council REQUISITE ACTION IS FORTHCOMING.
  • The loss of The United States Of America Service Persons lives versus the loss of Syrian Turds, er, Kurds for THEIR cause. Yep. The Syrian Turds, er, Kurds can stand and, if necessary, loose THEIR lives for THEIR cause. ABSOLUTELY NO "reason" for The United States Of America Service Persons lives to be put at risk for someone else's "tribal" "issues".
  • IF NECESSARY, The True The United States Of America Patriot President Donald J Trump AND The United States Of America Congress WILL PUT MAJOR HURT ON THEE Twerks ECONOMICALLY AND OTHERWISE AS WELL AS Other Whirled Powers.
  • Other Whirled Powers ARE NOT SERVED BY HAVING THE ISIS COMBATANTS OUT ON THE LOOSE AND RETURNING A CITIZENS TO THE COUNTRIES OF ORIGIN.
  • WHY, pray tell, HAVE A "partial" "solution" WITH fifty (50) The United States Of America Service Persons REMAINING in Syria INSTEAD OF A "total" "solution" WITH Major Whirled Powers???!!!

Yep. Necessary AND Brilliant MOVE BY The True The United States Of America Patriot President Donald J Trump.

 

ANY QUESTIONS???!!!

 

DDDIIISSSMMMIIISSSSSSEEEDDD (dismissed :lmao:   :lmao:   :lmao:)!!!

 

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Well, OK, I am NOT a Fan OR Proponent OF LOSS OF LIFE FOR MONEY OR GAIN!!!

 

However, THIS event is more like the DARKEST of Night BEFORE the BRIGHTEST Morning.

 

1 hour ago, yota691 said:

Bahhaa Good morning Ms.C. You really believe those polls? The same polls that had Crooked Hillarious winning the 2016 Presidency by 98%. I hate to break the news but when 2020 roll's around Trump will be reelected and win not by a Landslide again, but a margin that never been witness in any Presidential Election...

 

:twothumbs: EXCELLENT Point, Yota, AND The Very Best Of The Rest Of Your Week AND Up Coming Weekend To You, SIR!!! :tiphat:

 

What is amazing is the shortsightedness of THEE Elitist / Socialist / Liberal / Leftist / Progressive / Nazist / Fascist / Race Bating / Whack Jobs to hold harmless Creepy Joe Biden the Vice President of THEE WORST ILLEGITIMATE President Of The United States Of America (Bark Insane Obama) FORGETTING THEE Presidential Election Outcome OF THEE WORST LEGITIMATE FORMER President Flimsy Carter's Vice President Walter Mondale.

 

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Early polls suggested Former President Ronald Reagan SHOULD NOT EVEN RUN FOR President in 1984.

 

The Harris Survey

For Release: Monday AM, July 11th, 1983

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EARLY INDICATIONS SHOW CLOSE 1984 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION

By Louis Harris

 

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AND THEE Elitist / Socialist / Liberal / Leftist / Progressive / Nazist / Fascist / Race Bating / Whack Jobs "believe" "polls" "mean" ANYTHING!!!

 

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Nah, I (NOTE: I), ALONG WITH ALL True The United States Of America Patriots, WILL STICK WITH AND DEFEND Decency, Reason, AND Common Sense.

 

:salute:   :salute:   :salute:   :salute:   :salute:   :salute:   :salute:

 

Go Moola Nova!

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2 minutes ago, Carrello said:

 

Floridian, please do more research other than Right Radical sites and news. Please. So much of what you say is just not true.

 

Here is a link for info on trump's business in Turkey. It's thorough IMO. Thanks. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-impeachment-inquiry/donald-trump-s-longtime-business-connections-turkey-back-spotlight-n1064011

 

Please commence with the conniption in the beauty that is ALL You, Carrello!!!

 

A link to Lame Stream AND Fake News Media???!!!

 

A POORLY written article with the MANTRA, "IMPEACH TRUMP, IMPEACH TRUMP" as the UNDERLYING BASIS FOR THE TRASH!!!

 

So much of what YOU say is just NOT true, Carrello!!!

 

Well, OK, You Go, GIRL!!!

 

:facepalm3:   :facepalm3:   :facepalm3:

 

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From a overseas onlooker i can only say that your president Trump has lost any credibility he had left.

My countries politics are a shambles at the moment, but it does not have the same effect on a global scale as Trumps actions.

China, European union, Russia, North Korea, Iran and now Turkey, see Trump as weak and indecisiveness on policy decisions.

Turkey has wanted to wage war at the syrian Kurds for months, yes the very ones male and female who with help of the US, UK, France, got rid the most evil barbaric terrorist group that threatened the M/E and the world.

Trumps actions and pathetic reasoned tweets are shameful and a disgrace, i welcome the outrage from many US politicians and media.

Get Rid.   

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4 hours ago, Carrello said:

 

Floridian, I am not going to give you facts, but check out the amount of businesses Trump has in Turkey (it's in the hundreds). What do you think Erdogan threatened Trump with on their phone call. Do some research and you might see the thread. Trump will never sanction Turkey because it affects his bottom line. And then ask yourself why Trump does not want anyone seeing his tax returns. 

 

So, when President Trump threatens the Turks with ruining their economy if they attack the Kurds, is he more concerned with his businesses in Turkey or in doing the right thing?  Is he thinking about his own "bottom line" or is he thinking like a President?

 

I really don't get where you're coming from, Carrello.  I guess I just can't think like a liberal Democrat.  You people make no sense to me in anything you say - kill babies after they're born, raise genderless children, Medicare for all (so what if it costs the taxpayers trillions of dollars?), be whatever sex you wanna be (no matter what genitals you have).  Frankly, you people don't have to answer to me, but one day you will answer to God.

 

I used to think you were so intelligent.  I've changed my mind.

 

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57 minutes ago, The Englishman said:

My countries politics are a shambles at the moment

Well I feel for you, but your shambles have been in the making for quite some time, way before Trump show up. Letting and Welcoming Mass Immigration with Thugs has turn your place into shambles (aka SHC), we have a few shambles (aka SHS) here in the USA they call safe zones, mainly on the west coast. 

1 hour ago, The Englishman said:

Trumps actions and pathetic reasoned tweets are shameful and a disgrace

WELCOME an get in line with the rest of the (aka BH) Politicians an the Media and the Never Trumpers. MAGA 2020..🇺🇸....

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3 hours ago, Carrello said:

 

Democrats do not kill babies when they are born and abort them at 9 months killing them. 

 

 

You're joking with your statement above, right?   Paragraph below from an article from your own, liberal Washington Post:

 

New York state last week passed a law that would allow doctors, if Roe v. Wade were overturned, to perform an abortion right up to the point of birth. This week in Virginia, a similar bill proposed by Democrats was tabled in committee. During a legislative hearing, Del. Kathy Tran (D-Fairfax) admitted that, yes, her bill would allow a doctor to perform an abortion after the mother had gone into labor — a position that Democratic Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam bizarrely (and ineptly) decided to defend in a radio interview.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/what-the-push-for-legal-until-birth-abortion-tells-us-about-the-abortion-debate/2019/02/01/7830bf94-25ac-11e9-90cd-dedb0c92dc17_story.html

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4 hours ago, Carrello said:

 

 

There is one thing that all of us here have in common: We are all dinar investors, and this move by Trump has put this investment into "NOT GOING to HAPPEN FOR A LONG LONG TIME" mode. Years. We all have had our dreams dashed and thrown in the dumpster. But the good news: The Kurds are having an even worse day.

And when the Dinar RVs before 2020 will we be hearing you chomping down hard on the crow you will be eating? 

Oh and maybe you've never heard of the Silent Majority. We don't participate in Polls, and could care less what the bought and paid for Mainstream media says, even a Fox poll is faulty (1000 participants) as we don't answer questions from random callers asking our opinions because we don't trust the media polls. 

But you can find us 30,000 plus strong at every  Trump rally and ask anyone there if they think our President should be impeached. 

The Silent Majority makes their Voices heard in the Ballot Booth and trust me it will be louder for Trump's second term than his first. 

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wow came in for lunch to have a look around interesting page to read , everyone has their opinion on everything the abortion comments are staggering to me ive never understood how a pregnant woman can be involved in lets say an auto accident and the child in the womb dies then the pregnant women  sues the person for manslaughter that caused the loss of the pregnancy , one would think if its a child for one its gotta be a child for all my wife had a sonogram with our first child it was breathtaking to see him raise his hand to his head inside the womb  ... bad laws are made legal but it doesnt make it right ......heres a great link to a solid read written quiet a while back so the numbers will be much different today .... cheers all the best to us all 

 

https://www.lastdaysministries.org/Articles/1000008517/Last_Days_Ministries/LDM/Discipleship_Teachings/Melody_Green/Children_Things_We.aspx

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5 hours ago, Carrello said:

 

Floridian, please do more research other than Right Radical sites and news. Please. So much of what you say is just not true, ie., Democrats do not kill babies when they are born and abort them at 9 months killing them. Please. This is nonsense and if true, there would be a lot of people charged with murder and in prison. Abortion is a woman's right. Killing a baby is another.

 

Another thing: I don't understand why the Right condemns people that were born sexually differently than the norm. Aren't we all created by God? And, yes, Democrats believe in God and God does guide us in our morals and values. God never advocated someone being able to "grab em..." at any time. 

 

Here is a link for info on trump's business in Turkey. It's thorough IMO. Thanks. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-impeachment-inquiry/donald-trump-s-longtime-business-connections-turkey-back-spotlight-n1064011

I'm with you.

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2 hours ago, Floridian said:

 

@Carrello

 

I sincerely apologize for my above statement.  I should not have written that.

I guess I just got carried away.  Please accept my apology.

 

 

:twothumbs: Nah, Your “beginning” “assessment” IS Spot On, I (NOTE: I) FULLY Agree, AND NO Need To Apologize, Floridian, AND The Very Best Of The Rest Of Your Week AND Upcoming Weekend To You!!! :tiphat:

 

True The United States Of America Stand With AND Get The Six Of Other True The United States Of America Patriots!!!

 

NO Need TO BE “involved” “in” Tribal Conflicts AT THE POTENTIAL COST OF True The United States Of America Patriot Service Persons’ lives!!!

 

WARNING: GENERAL GEORGE S. PATTON “pep” “talk” LANGUAGE!!!

 

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x156uvg

 

Go Moola Nova!

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