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6 minutes ago, Pitcher said:

Please, a campaign speech.  Show me some real RC or anything that can stand up to a trial and yes, all should be accountable. 

 

Shabbs, if what I’ve been reading on the IG’s report is half correct and, if you are honest ( which I believe you to be) you will see for yourself the depths to which the Dem leadership went to in trying to oust President Trump.  

 

Anybody and I mean anybody in our government caught, prosecuted and found guilty of a crime should be held accountable.....Left or Right, makes no difference to me.  We vote them in to be our voices and to follow the U.S. Constitution....all of them, including the POTUS.  Public employees, nothing more....they work for us, we don't work for them.  I also believe the memo I read this morning provided by the White House shows definitively that Trump (current POTUS) asked for Biden (Top political rival at time of call) to be investigated by Ukraine (A foreign government).  I'm no Constitutional lawyer, but if I'm being honest, and I feel I am even with my anti-Trump bias, it sounds illegal as hell. 

 

GO RV, then BV 

 

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1 minute ago, Shabibilicious said:

the memo I read this morning provided by the White House shows definitively that Trump (current POTUS) asked for Biden (Top political rival at time of call) to be investigated by Ukraine (A foreign government). 

 

Deep State... Fake News... Not his fault... Obama wasn't a citizen.... Clinton did it.

 

B/A

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2 minutes ago, Shabibilicious said:

 

Anybody and I mean anybody in our government caught, prosecuted and found guilty of a crime should be held accountable.....Left or Right, makes no difference to me.  We vote them in to be our voices and to follow the U.S. Constitution....all of them, including the POTUS.  Public employees, nothing more....they work for us, we don't work for them.  I also believe the memo I read this morning provided by the White House shows definitively that Trump (current POTUS) asked for Biden (Top political rival at time of call) to be investigated by Ukraine (A foreign government).  I'm no Constitutional lawyer, but if I'm being honest, and I feel I am even with my anti-Trump bias, it sounds illegal as hell. 

 

GO RV, then BV 

 

Sounds illegal, but is it illegal?

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13 hours ago, learning all i can said:

I know y'all won't  be interested in this but botox Nancy was looking pretty good on camera today.  I'd  say a new brow lift and a jowl line lift.  She is slurring words a little right now...that skin must be pulled a little too tight.   But hey she be looking good.

 

The "Dolly Effect"...

... genetically modified sheep semen injections. :shrug::mellow:

:lol::P

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2 minutes ago, Shabibilicious said:

hem.  I also believe the memo I read this morning provided by the White House shows definitively that Trump (current POTUS) asked for Biden (Top political rival at time of call) to be investigated by Ukraine (A foreign government).  I'm no Constitutional lawyer, but if I'm being honest, and I feel I am even with my anti-Trump bias, it sounds illegal as hell. 

 

Well, Nancy Pelosi believes it is illegal and she officially started an Inquiry to Impeach President Trump.  Now how come she and the Dems don’t start an inquiry into Biden’s son and VP Biden for the same alleged crime as President Trump. I hope you can see the double standard in our application of the Laws.  

 

No President in the history of the nation has had to deal with the constant allegations, Investigations, and accusations.  Nothing has stuck so far.  The Dems know this, they haven’t found anything yet to “get Trump” so they just keep the throwing the muck and accusations into the fan hoping something will stick.  Shabbs they hate him and are impeaching him in the arena of public opinion and using the National Media to stoke the fires.  Anything to keep the snowflakes angry enough to vote.  They can’t compete on Policy, or any economic issues so they HAVE to make him into a bogeyman.  I believe their strategy is flawed and the America people will show there displeasure by giving Trump 4 more years.  

 

BTW, did you see that Pocahontas now has some dirty laundry come to light.  Hahahahaha,  Everyone in DC has their hand out, they are all crooks my friend!!!!  

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2 minutes ago, Pitcher said:

 

Well, Nancy Pelosi believes it is illegal and she officially started an Inquiry to Impeach President Trump.  Now how come she and the Dems don’t start an inquiry into Biden’s son and VP Biden for the same alleged crime as President Trump. I hope you can see the double standard in our application of the Laws.  

 

No President in the history of the nation has had to deal with the constant allegations, Investigations, and accusations.  Nothing has stuck so far.  The Dems know this, they haven’t found anything yet to “get Trump” so they just keep the throwing the muck and accusations into the fan hoping something will stick.  Shabbs they hate him and are impeaching him in the arena of public opinion and using the National Media to stoke the fires.  Anything to keep the snowflakes angry enough to vote.  They can’t compete on Policy, or any economic issues so they HAVE to make him into a bogeyman.  I believe their strategy is flawed and the America people will show there displeasure by giving Trump 4 more years.  

 

BTW, did you see that Pocahontas now has some dirty laundry come to light.  Hahahahaha,  Everyone in DC has their hand out, they are all crooks my friend!!!!  

 

Haven't seen the Warren stuff yet, and I can't say I'm surprised.  And in retrospect, a person could set his watch by the timing of mud slinging in D.C.....distraction is the name of the game.

 

With respect to the Biden issue, the prosecutor in question wasn't just involved in the investigation against the company H. Biden served on the board of, as Trump and his cronies would have his followers believe....this prosecutor was on the radar of multiple foreign governments as being corrupt.  Not saying either of the Biden's are innocent, but I think it's important to understand the prosecutor in question as well.  If he was as good as Donald said he was to President Z, why didn't new President Z rehire him...hmmm, interesting.

 

GO RV, then BV

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44 minutes ago, SgtFuryUSCZ said:

 

The "Dolly Effect"...

... genetically modified sheep semen injections. :shrug::mellow:

:lol::P

lol...not sure about sheep......possibly Goat.... did you notice the shine to her face....lubrication to make skin pliable so she could move that mouth.  The rest of her face was pretty much frozen in place.   Awww the vanity.

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1 hour ago, bostonangler said:

Deep State... Fake News... Not his fault... Obama wasn't a citizen.... Clinton did it.

 

I see you got a few reds for that sentence.  Not mine but I can see why people would give you one.  BA you are a smart person, put a little more thought into your posts.  A post like that doesn’t help the debate.  It is insulting and divisive.  It’s only going to get you Reds and push back like, HRC is a traitor, or Barry isn’t an American, or the news is fake.  Flippant one sided remarks just piss people off.  If that is your intent then Bravo, you accomplished it.  Enjoy your Reds.  

 

We know you hate the President.  I’ve stated many times I don’t like many of the things he has said, done, or like what he tweets.  My only point is, if you are a person who is honest and reasonable and willing to debate issues that way, great, bring it.  If you want to throw mud and disappear that’s your right.  To me that’s a Dem hack who isn’t interested in any truth except your own. That will put you on my ignore list pronto.  That would be a shame because I like many of your articles on finance and other topics.  

 

 

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Fox News - 'Squad' members call for impeachment after Trump releases Ukraine transcript: 'Worse than we thought'

 

The members of the progressive "Squad" amplified their calls for impeachment on Wednesday, rebuffing President Trump's attempts to quell concerns by releasing a transcript of his phone call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky from July.

 

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., argued the transcript indicated the conversation was "worse than we thought" and accused the president of betraying the country.

 

"Folks, I am surprised the White House even released this transcript. It’s worse than we thought. The President sought to use the powers of the United States government to investigate a political opponent," she said.

 

Ocasio-Cortez's comments came after House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., announced she was opening an impeachment investigation -- something the Speaker had mostly resisted until details surfaced surrounding Trump's talk with Zelensky.

 

"Either the President does not know the weight of his words or he does not care about ethics or his constitutional responsibilities," she said in a statement Wednesday obtained by Fox News.

 

“The transcript and the Justice Department’s acting in a rogue fashion in being complicit in the President’s lawlessness confirm the need for an impeachment inquiry. Clearly, the Congress must act."

 

The transcript, released on Wednesday, showed that Trump made no explicit mention of a quid pro quo exchanging U.S. foreign aid for an investigation into former Vice President Joe Biden. Biden, the 2020 Democratic frontrunner, attracted scrutiny for successfully pressuring Ukraine to fire its top prosecutor, Viktor Shokin, who was investigating a natural gas firm where his son Hunter served on the board of directors.

 

As Ocasio-Cortez noted, the transcript was not a "verbatim" account but was based on "notes and recollections" of those observing the call.

 

Fellow "Squad" member Rep. Ilhan Omar, D-Minn., joined Ocasio-Cortez in calling for impeachment, arguing that the transcript alone was proof that Congress should pursue official proceedings.

 

Rep. Rashida Tlaib, D-Mich., plainly accused Trump of trying to bribe and extort Zelensky but, in her tweet, didn't point to any particular portion of the transcript.

 

The remaining "Squad" member, Rep. Ayanna Pressley, D-Mass., enthusiastically supported impeachment on Tuesday but didn't seem to comment on the released transcript via Twitter.

 

By contrast, President Trump declared victory after the transcript's release. "Will the Democrats apologize after seeing what was said on the call with the Ukrainian President? They should, a perfect call - got them by surprise!" he tweeted.

 

It seemed unlikely that Democrats will back away from impeachment since Pelosi announced the inquiry before the White House even released the transcript. Pelosi, on Tuesday, also claimed Trump's administration broke the law by suppressing a whistleblower's report on the call with Ukraine.

 

Sam Dorman is a reporter with Fox News. You can follow him on Facebook here.

 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/squad-members-impeachment-transcript

 

****/END OF THE ARTICLE****/

 

Indy

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Again....remember this is an inquiry.......if they find anything they believe worthwhile Congress can vote to impeach.....that will take 218 yea's........

 

Every 2 years the entire Congress is up for reelection.....by the numbers today a straight party vote would see the impeachment then move onto the Senate....but wait....right now the yea's are at 195-198ish.....seems a good number on the left are worried jumping on board for an impeachment might cause them to lose their Job.....

 

But let's say they squeak it out in Congress........next is the Senate.....takes two thirds there.......meaning about 20 Republican Senators would have to jump ship.......anyone care to offer up odds on that ever happening?

So let the circus continue.....US politics at its best.......or worse....Trump will not be impeached.......and with the misguided direction the left, and the DNC, are headed.....they likely will also lose the House in 2020

JMO.    CL

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3 minutes ago, coorslite21 said:

Again....remember this is an inquiry.......if they find anything they believe worthwhile Congress can vote to impeach.....that will take 218 yea's........

 

Every 2 years the entire Congress is up for reelection.....by the numbers today a straight party vote would see the impeachment then move onto the Senate....but wait....right now the yea's are at 195-198ish.....seems a good number on the left are worried jumping on board for an impeachment might cause them to lose their Job.....

 

But let's say they squeak it out in Congress........next is the Senate.....takes two thirds there.......meaning about 20 Republican Senators would have to jump ship.......anyone care to offer up odds on that ever happening?

So let the circus continue.....US politics at its best.......or worse....Trump will not be impeached.......and with the misguided direction the left, and the DNC, are headed.....they likely will also lose the House in 2020

JMO.    CL

For once we agree

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9 minutes ago, Indraman said:

The transcript, released on Wednesday, showed that Trump made no explicit mention of a quid pro quo exchanging U.S. foreign aid for an investigation into former Vice President Joe Biden. Biden, the 2020 Democratic frontrunner, attracted scrutiny for successfully pressuring Ukraine to fire its top prosecutor, Viktor Shokin, who was investigating a natural gas firm where his son Hunter served on the board of directors.

 

 

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27 minutes ago, Pitcher said:

 

I see you got a few reds for that sentence.  Not mine but I can see why people would give you one.  BA you are a smart person, put a little more thought into your posts.  A post like that doesn’t help the debate.  It is insulting and divisive.  It’s only going to get you Reds and push back like, HRC is a traitor, or Barry isn’t an American, or the news is fake.  Flippant one sided remarks just piss people off.  If that is your intent then Bravo, you accomplished it.  Enjoy your Reds.  

 

We know you hate the President.  I’ve stated many times I don’t like many of the things he has said, done, or like what he tweets.  My only point is, if you are a person who is honest and reasonable and willing to debate issues that way, great, bring it.  If you want to throw mud and disappear that’s your right.  To me that’s a Dem hack who isn’t interested in any truth except your own. That will put you on my ignore list pronto.  That would be a shame because I like many of your articles on finance and other topics.  

 

 

 

Thanks Pitcher... Obviously it was humor... Like all the humor people throw at Obama or Clinton or Pelosi or Mitch, or any of the many crooked and corrupt people in D.C. You are right I don't like Trump's policies or his untruthfulness. I read you post somewhere today about all the corrupt politicians in D.C.. To be honest I don't know why Trump gets a pass... He has the military staying at his resort in Scotland. Making lot's of money off taxpayers. He tells American companies they better build here and employ here, but his crap is made in China or Vietnam. There are many things I think he says and does that are inappropriate for an American president.

 

You said I don't post things other than to agitate. That's not quite true. I post many things worth debating, but usually I get nothing but cute sarcastic comments from some, incoherent ramblings from another sand lot's of rubies without rebuttal. Politics do bring out the worse in all of us. My comments in financial postings are only about trying to inform people that markets are overvalued, their money isn't safe and the bull market can't last forever. Do you know what I get when I post those.. Rubies.

 

But I always enjoy your comments and level-headiness. And I really enjoy our conversations about investing. As for politics, I have cut back and will do more cutting back, because it really doesn't amount to anything.

 

B//A

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Synopsis, did you read my post to BA.  Do we have to resort to name calling and make everything a war.  You are a smart fellow, use your wit to debate in a way that states your beliefs and arguments without the personal attacks or acrimony.  If you need to do that and need to be in a war to make a point continue, who am I to stop you.  I’m just going to ignore it.  That would be a shame because I like reading your posts. You are obviously well read and bring a different perspective to the debate (arguments).  To have everyone getting nasty is exactly what the Political Party’s want. They want us arguing and getting all fired up so we will go vote.  It’s just unnecessary to me, especially on a DINAR WEBSITE, hahahahaha 

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Hello Pitcher & others...Serious question...What should one have to do in order NOT to piss most People off around here (apart my own "special" case, which was already discussed and solved sorta......but in general, I mean)?

 

Again, serious question....Adressed to more Folks here, not only to you

 

Thanks Everybody  in advance

 

 

 

 

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" Synopsis, did you read my post to BA.  Do we have to resort to name calling and make everything a war.  You are a smart fellow, use your wit to debate in a way that states your beliefs and arguments without the personal attacks or acrimony. "

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Thanks...Appreciated

 

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2 minutes ago, umbertino said:

What should one have to do in order NOT to piss most People off around here (apart my own "special" case, which was already discussed and solved sorta......but in general, I mean)?

 

 

Umbertino, you’re back.  This posts really sets me off.  

 

I’m kidding of course.  You’re never going to be able to write everything in a way that doesn’t tick someone off.  When you write a post or a tweet it’s hard to convey intent and sometimes we are in a hurry and don’t write our posts in a reasonable way.  We knee jerk react to one sentence that hits us the wrong way.  Unfortunately we all have a track record on these Political threads so the battle lines have been drawn.  Things have been said, and we’ve all resorted to personal attacks, name calling, you know, all the stupid stuff.  The only true thing that gets accomplished are hurt feelings and a desire to fight back.  I’m guilty, we all are guilty.  We have all sunk to the lowest levels to try and win a point for our site or way of thinking.

 

I’m saying if you want to do that ( not just you but everyone) go ahead.  Do what you need to do.  As for me I’m trying to stop with the personal attacks, the name calling, and all the stupid behavior that isn’t my true being.  Those that need to do that will go on my ignore list.  It’s too exhausting, too troubling, and it brings out my combat side.  I can dish it out as well as anyone, I’m just not going to participate in that behavior anymore ( hopefully, working on it).  

 

I like hearing all sides, just do it in a respectful or semi respectful manner.  Isn’t that what you have been wanting.  Now if I say all that and slip, call me on, I’ll try to do better.  Some on this site get it.  We’ve had some good exchanges on some of the pressing issues of our times.  Go ahead debate everything that you believe,  just nix the name calling and vitriol.  

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