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5 minutes ago, nstoolman1 said:

Then he is wrong. I don't have a problem with attacking politics. It is when a personal level is attacked that is wrong.

 

That being said, I don't not like you, just your politics.

 

Fair enough.  I appreciate your candor.  You've always proven yourself to be a truthful stand up guy.

 

GO RV, then BV 

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I came at you pretty hard a year ago before I got where you where coming from.  You say you served in the military so that got my instant respect. I’ve also apologized for my snarky, disrespectful posts towards you.  I don’t agree with your politics and I will continue to voice my opposition to your posts which really irritate me (everyday).  I will just try to be more respectful to you as long as you do likewise. Which for the most part you do.  

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16 hours ago, Shabibilicious said:

 

Bernie is an island, not the norm.....Complete socialism would be unsustainable, especially with an already bloated 22 trillion national debt.  A person believing in some social programs, particularly those that help people in need, doesn't make them a socialist....it makes them compassionate humans, possessing God's love for our fellow man.  As always, just my opinion.

 

GO RV, then BV

I  held back replying to this in order to remain respectful. 

I get so frustrated when people say government social programs are compassionate and Godly. Even more so when that person claims to be a Christian. 

GOVERNMENT SOCIAL PROGRAMS ARE NEITHER COMPASSIONATE NOR GOODLY. 

Only hypocritical Christians say that, and only because they pay taxes and they don't want to give more of their money away. Saying it's "compassionate and Godly" only makes you feel better. But your sin is still there. 

 

And why is it a wrong statement?

Because the compassionate and Godly thing to do is to help someone to rise up and get back on their feet using everything at your disposal. 

Government social programs are by design the opposite of what I just said. 

They are designed to give you just barely enough to survive so as to forever keep you in need and thus relying on the government.  

That's NOT compassion, that's 

SLAVERY.  

How do I know so much about government social programs? Because I was once a recipient of them. But my self respect forced me to dig down deep and pull myself up. What was the response from the social worker in my case? She would not help me with truck driving school and told me that by simply paying the small introduction fee I was showing that I've been given too much assistance and thus no longer needed government help. 

In layman's terms "I was immediately cut off". 

How compassionate and Godly was that? I ended up finishing the three week school living in my pickup using the restrooms for personal hygiene. And thank God for Top Ramon, otherwise I would have starved. 

My first year out as a commercial driver I earned  $45,000 dollars and that was in 1990. 

I NEVER got rich being a driver but 

I NEVER NEEDED ASSISTANCE FROM THE GOVERNMENT AGAIN. 

And today I make much more money so that my wife can do what she wants to do most in life, be a stay at home mom for my too LOVELY little girls. 

And ALL of that was by the Grace of God without any government social programs. 

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35 minutes ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said:

I  held back replying to this in order to remain respectful. 

I get so frustrated when people say government social programs are compassionate and Godly. Even more so when that person claims to be a Christian. 

GOVERNMENT SOCIAL PROGRAMS ARE NEITHER COMPASSIONATE NOR GOODLY. 

Only hypocritical Christians say that, and only because they pay taxes and they don't want to give more of their money away. Saying it's "compassionate and Godly" only makes you feel better. But your sin is still there. 

 

And why is it a wrong statement?

Because the compassionate and Godly thing to do is to help someone to rise up and get back on their feet using everything at your disposal. 

Government social programs are by design the opposite of what I just said. 

They are designed to give you just barely enough to survive so as to forever keep you in need and thus relying on the government.  

That's NOT compassion, that's 

SLAVERY.  

How do I know so much about government social programs? Because I was once a recipient of them. But my self respect forced me to dig down deep and pull myself up. What was the response from the social worker in my case? She would not help me with truck driving school and told me that by simply paying the small introduction fee I was showing that I've been given too much assistance and thus no longer needed government help. 

In layman's terms "I was immediately cut off". 

How compassionate and Godly was that? I ended up finishing the three week school living in my pickup using the restrooms for personal hygiene. And thank God for Top Ramon, otherwise I would have starved. 

My first year out as a commercial driver I earned  $45,000 dollars and that was in 1990. 

I NEVER got rich being a driver but 

I NEVER NEEDED ASSISTANCE FROM THE GOVERNMENT AGAIN. 

And today I make much more money so that my wife can do what she wants to do most in life, be a stay at home mom for my too LOVELY little girls. 

And ALL of that was by the Grace of God without any government social programs. 

 

Awesome uplifting story....now imagine if you're one of three underage children of worthless alcoholics where the local churches do what they can, but the children's health and wellness is still an issue.  Then multiply that by every child suffering the same fate.  As always, just my apparently unchristian opinion.  

 

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16 hours ago, Pitcher said:

I came at you pretty hard a year ago before I got where you where coming from.  You say you served in the military so that got my instant respect. I’ve also apologized for my snarky, disrespectful posts towards you.  I don’t agree with your politics and I will continue to voice my opposition to your posts which really irritate me (everyday).  I will just try to be more respectful to you as long as you do likewise. Which for the most part you do.  

 

Great post.....Bravo

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2 hours ago, Shabibilicious said:

 

Awesome uplifting story....now imagine if you're one of three underage children of worthless alcoholics where the local churches do what they can, but the children's health and wellness is still an issue.  Then multiply that by every child suffering the same fate.  As always, just my apparently unchristian opinion.  

 

GO RV, then BV 

 

 Matthew 18 
 

(Mark 9:33-37; Luke 9:46-50)

 

1At the same time came the disciples unto Jesus, saying, Who is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven? 2And Jesus called a little child unto him, and set him in the midst of them, 3And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of

heaven. 4

Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven. 5And whoso shall receive one such little child in my name receiveth me. 6But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.

Temptations and Trespasses

(Mark 9:42-50; Luke 17:1-4)

 

7Woe unto the world because of offences! for it must needs be that offences come; but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh!

 

You proceed from a historically wrong perspective. For the first 1551 years after Christ death the Catholic church was the only faith. From that time all the way through today the Catholic church has become the largest organization in the world to feed, cloth, and house those in need. Little children being the first. However, in 1551 or thereabouts a man named Martin Luther who was studying to be a  priest, left the Catholic Seminary and started the Lutheran Church. This was the beginning of what became known as the Protestant faith. Although  Protestants do help the needy and children, as a former Protestant I can assure you they come nowhere near as close to what the Catholic Church does.

Much later came a man named Roosevelt. He had a grand new scheme that he called the New Deal. His plan was to take care of the needs that the Church had been taken care of for over fifteen hundred years.

Today we are some 70 or so years later. And I find that members of the Catholic church and the Protestant faith are more than happy to pay their taxes then allow the government to supposedly take care of those in need. All the while doing little or nothing at all themselves.

Not only is this not the teachings of Christ I have little doubt it those who act in this matter don't know it's wrong. The Catholic church and the Protestant Faith are both called to see to the needs of those less fortunate. And the reason I suspect God made it that way it's because he knew governments would never do the right thing.

 

As the scriptures above Cleary state there will always be those in need. Until Christ reigns upon this Earth there will always be suffering, there will always be hungry, and there will always be the poor. So until Christ Returns the real question is what are you personally doing to help?

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19 minutes ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said:

 

 Matthew 18 
 

(Mark 9:33-37; Luke 9:46-50)

 

1At the same time came the disciples unto Jesus, saying, Who is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven? 2And Jesus called a little child unto him, and set him in the midst of them, 3And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of

heaven. 4

Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven. 5And whoso shall receive one such little child in my name receiveth me. 6But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.

Temptations and Trespasses

(Mark 9:42-50; Luke 17:1-4)

 

7Woe unto the world because of offences! for it must needs be that offences come; but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh!

 

You proceed from a historically wrong perspective. For the first 1551 years after Christ death the Catholic church was the only faith. From that time all the way through today the Catholic church has become the largest organization in the world to feed, cloth, and house those in need. Little children being the first. However, in 1551 or thereabouts a man named Martin Luther who was studying to be a  priest, left the Catholic Seminary and started the Lutheran Church. This was the beginning of what became known as the Protestant faith. Although  Protestants do help the needy and children, as a former Protestant I can assure you they come nowhere near as close to what the Catholic Church does.

Much later came a man named Roosevelt. He had a grand new scheme that he called the New Deal. His plan was to take care of the needs that the Church had been taken care of for over fifteen hundred years.

Today we are some 70 or so years later. And I find that members of the Catholic church and the Protestant faith are more than happy to pay their taxes then allow the government to supposedly take care of those in need. All the while doing little or nothing at all themselves.

Not only is this not the teachings of Christ I have little doubt it those who act in this matter don't know it's wrong. The Catholic church and the Protestant Faith are both called to see to the needs of those less fortunate. And the reason I suspect God made it that way it's because he knew governments would never do the right thing.

 

As the scriptures above Cleary state there will always be those in need. Until Christ reigns upon this Earth there will always be suffering, there will always be hungry, and there will always be the poor. So until Christ Returns the real question is what are you personally doing to help?

 

First and foremost, thank you for once again questioning my Christianity.  Secondly, I always find it perplexing when folks such as yourself preach that God tells us to follow our leaders...except when that leader sends his taxman to the front door that is....And lastly, research Mooseheart and Moosehaven and know that I'm truly active in the giving of my time and money to charity, while also practicing the precepts of hope, faith, and loyalty.  It just seems to me that with all that's come to light in recent years, the Catholic Church would focus on cleaning there own house, before focusing on other denominations.  I don't question what's  in your heart, so please stop doing it to me. Have a great blessed day, brother.

 

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1 hour ago, Shabibilicious said:

First and foremost, thank you for once again questioning my Christianity

I am in no way questioning your Christianity, or your faith. I am merely attempting to get you to analyze your own walk with Christ everyday. Just as I do in my own life. 

 

1 hour ago, Shabibilicious said:

  Secondly, I always find it perplexing when folks such as yourself preach that God tells us to follow our leaders...except when that leader sends his taxman to the front door that is..

I never suggested that I had a problem with paying taxes. I have a problem with people who think that is all they have to do to help their fellow man.

."Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's, and unto God that which is God's".

 

1 hour ago, Shabibilicious said:

And lastly, research Mooseheart and Moosehaven and know that I'm truly active in the giving of my time and money to charity, while also practicing the precepts of hope, faith, and loyalty

I'm proud of you and know you to be a good man. You're involvement in such organizations means that you know full well there are few willing to do the same. Thanks be to God for people like us.

 

1 hour ago, Shabibilicious said:

It just seems to me that with all that's come to light in recent years, the Catholic Church would focus on cleaning there own house, before focusing on other denominations

I am I a member of the Catholic Church. I am also a Protestant by birth. And I can assure you that both sects have their faults, probably because they have human beings involved. But as far as the Catholic Church goes I think I understand what went wrong. 

In the 60s and 70s being g a y was shunned. It was a dangerous time to be openly homosexual. The Catholic Church provided the perfect cover. A man could be a priest and keep his homosexual life a secret without having to explain his lack of Desire to marry a woman. Today here we are decades later with the help of the internet and social media such a lifestyle is no longer easily kept secret. We find that these men who joined the Catholic faith solely for the purposes of hiding what they were have been abusing people all along. The greater sin of the Catholic faith isn't that this happened but that the church has chosen to attempt to sweep it under the rug. I understand why they did that, though I do not agree with it. 

But what I understand, and most Catholics do, is that these men who became priests in order to hide their homosexual lifestyle received the authority to operate in Jesus Christ name when they became a priest. This is the gift of the priesthood the Jesus gave the apostles some 2,000 years ago. And it matters not the sins of the priest, As the authority of Jesus Christ supersedes The sins of men.

 

But the most important thing I wish to convey here is that when I speak of the Bible or the Catholic faith I speak of my own as given me by the Holy Spirit. I am in no way whatsoever speaking for the Catholic Church. I leave that responsibility to the priesthood.

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6 hours ago, Shabibilicious said:

 

Awesome uplifting story....now imagine if you're one of three underage children of worthless alcoholics where the local churches do what they can, but the children's health and wellness is still an issue.  Then multiply that by every child suffering the same fate.  As always, just my apparently unchristian opinion.  

 

GO RV, then BV 

 

 

 

Nailed it, Shabbs ( as usual)....The Brits would state "bloody well right"

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22 hours ago, nstoolman1 said:

Then he is wrong. I don't have a problem with attacking politics. It is when a personal level is attacked that is wrong.

 

That being said, I don't not like you, just your politics.

 

 

Same holds valid for me on this Forum...I love everybody in  here....With some I just do not share their political ideas.....  exactly the way they surely do not mine....That's normal and natural whenever there is more than one person in a place...Human nature....Thinking differently...And Thank God for that or else it'd be really a boring situation where ALL think alike....

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I am I a member of the Catholic Church. I am also a Protestant by birth. And I can assure you that both sects have their faults, probably because they have human beings involved. But as far as the Catholic Church goes I think I understand what went wrong. 

In the 60s and 70s being g a y was shunned. It was a dangerous time to be openly homosexual. The Catholic Church provided the perfect cover. A man could be a priest and keep his homosexual life a secret without having to explain his lack of Desire to marry a woman. Today here we are decades later with the help of the internet and social media such a lifestyle is no longer easily kept secret. We find that these men who joined the Catholic faith solely for the purposes of hiding what they were have been abusing people all along. The greater sin of the Catholic faith isn't that this happened but that the church has chosen to attempt to sweep it under the rug. I understand why they did that, though I do not agree with it. 

But what I understand, and most Catholics do, is that these men who became priests in order to hide their homosexual lifestyle received the authority to operate in Jesus Christ name when they became a priest. This is the gift of the priesthood the Jesus gave the apostles some 2,000 years ago. And it matters not the sins of the priest, As the authority of Jesus Christ supersedes The sins of men.

 

But the most important thing I wish to convey here is that when I speak of the Bible or the Catholic faith I speak of my own as given me by the Holy Spirit. I am in no way whatsoever speaking for the Catholic Church. I leave that responsibility to the priesthood.

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Hello LGD.....I'm a Catholic myself as is the huge majority of Italians  ( baptized, 1st Communion, Confirmation before the Bishop of my hometown...the whole thing)

 

 

But what you stated about the Catholic Church is all true ( unfortunately)...It's always been very difficult for the Vatican ( depending on whomever was Pope in specific periods) to admit whichever faults and guilts even where tons of evidences were given....Generations of children being sexually molested and abused esp in developing Countries ( Money aid blackmail...Africa, South America but  not only)  ....Most times they operated a cover-up......Lots of bad things.....Pope Francis somehow makes me hope for the better...But I'd like to see clear, unmistakable signs of real change ( permission for priests to get finally married, more commitment in prosecuting priests and bishops and cardinals involved in lewd situations, etc)...

 

The Catholic Church would be the 1st to take advantage from that vigorous total clean up at all levels...They did a lot of horrible things with I.O.R. ( the Vatican Bank)....Mr Marcinkus ( US Prelate, head of I.O.R.) was asked, years ago, by the Italian justice system to be interrogated over  a lot of un-clear ( very dirty infact) facts regarding the Bank  involving also Italian citizens ( there was talk of money passing from Vatican Bank to some Mafia gangs).....But the Vatican refused to give extradition to Italy ...

 

The Church way to "punish" Cardinal ( if I'm not mistaken ) Marcinkus was to send him in   a little town in Arizona.......I mean ....Seriously....?????????? Ridiculous and tragic

 

And we all rememberCardinal Pell from Australia....He got found guilty either of molesting / abusing children and ( which is even worse and involves lots of priests) guilty of knowing of other Church people involved in sexually abusing children and never telling anything, therefore becoming an accessory to the crimes ( many)

 

 

I hope a great change is coming for good.......After all the (Catholic) Church ( or any other Church for that matter) is supposed to be an example, a model for People and set CLEARLY some standards of behavior......JMVHO

 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Marcinkus

 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Pell

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I forgot to mention that a few years ago Police discovered that one member ( or maybe he was the boss, do not remember) of the most dangerous criminal gang in Rome ( prostitution, drugs, threatening shops for monthly money, robberies and rapes in private homes, etc) had been buried in a very special "luxury" tomb INSIDE one of the Churches in Vatican City!!!!!!!!!  What gives?????

 

 

That was quite a scandal here in Italy...The Vatican so far ( it's been years now) was unable to give / utter a clear explanation about that......Very sad......

 

My humble explanation....POWER and MONEY....A terrible and wicked mix....Again...JMVHO

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50 minutes ago, umbertino said:

 

I hope a great change is coming for good.......After all the (Catholic) Church ( or any other Church for that matter) is supposed to be an example, a model for People and set CLEARLY some standards of behavior......JMVHO

YES, there is a great change coming and it will definitely be for the good. It will also be coming much sooner than anyone is willing to admit. His name is Emmanuel, Jesus Christ. And when he comes he will set all things right. He will judge all men according to their works.

We are little children playing in the house where parents have gone out for dinner. Making the mistake that all children make, forgetting that the parents are eventually coming home.  We focus on the toys of our parents and think about what we want. Never realizing that in dishonoring our father we will suffer the consequences.

And just like children we look at the sins of others and justify our own actions and our own inactions because of what other people have done. Never realizing that by looking at the sins of men we turn our heads away from the Glory of God. And therefore, are guilty of our own sin.

Jesus said, " when I come again who shall I find watching and waiting"?

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PROBATION: Teen Cheerleaders Punished Over Pro-Trump Banner at Football Game

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September 16, 2019
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On Aug. 30 a group of North Stanly High School cheerleaders posed for a pre-game photo with a banner that read, ‘Trump 2020 Make America Great Again.’

The Stanly News & Press reported that it was “American Night” at the football game and students were encouraged to wear red, white and blue.

Parents told me the photo was completely innocent and the picture was snapped in just a matter of seconds.

 
 
 

The newspaper reports that the photo was posted on social media and “caused people to feel uncomfortable.”

Apparently, there are some perpetually-offended snowflakes who live in that part of North Carolina.

Several of the parents who reached out to me say their children have been accused of being racist for posing with the banner — accusations they say that are completely false.

It’s not quite clear who complained about that banner, but all you-know-what broke out – leading to a school district investigation as well as a NCHSAA investigation.

 
 
 
 

“Stanly County Schools never makes political campaign endorsements,” the school district said in a statement on its website. “These policies ensure that all students, staff and visitors are able to attend school events in an environment that promotes students and not a particular political viewpoint.”

The Stanly News & Press reports the cheerleaders have been placed on probation by the NCHSAA for the remainder of the season as a result of the pro-Trump banner.

“One of the rules we have is that every contest should be conducted in a wholesome, athletic environment,” North Carolina High School Athletic Association Commissioner Que Tucker told the newspaper. “We take that to mean that it’s in an environment where good sportsmanship is shown, where people feel safe…that respect for all people participating is being shown.”

The newspaper reports that “due to the fact the incident caused concern for many and helped create a negative athletic environment, according to Tucker, the NCHSAA decided to reprimand the cheerleaders by putting them on probation.”

What a load of Grade-A, politically correct fertilizer.

 
 
 
 

“Not sure when supporting the acting POTUS became a punishable offense,” one irate resident wrote on Facebook. “Do Americans have freedom of speech anymore? Of course! But only if you are liberal.”

I reached out to the NCHSAA to find out why the cheerleaders were put on probation. I wanted them to show me the rule they allegedly violated. Their media relations team refused my request.

So why do I have a sneaking suspicion that had the kids been waving an anti-Trump banner the NCHSAA would’ve turned a blind eye?

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Andy Rooney and his prayer:
I don't believe in Santa Claus, but I'm not going to sue somebody for singing a Ho-Ho-Ho song in December. I don't agree with Darwin, but I didn't go out and hire a lawyer when my high school teacher taught his Theory of Evolution.
Life, liberty or your pursuit of happiness will not be endangered because someone says a 30-second prayer before a football game. So what's the big deal? It's not like somebody is up there reading the entire Book of Acts. They're just talking to a God they believe in and asking Him to grant safety to the players on the field and the fans going home from the game.
But it's a Christian prayer, some will argue.
Yes, and this is the United States of America, founded on Christian principles. According to our very own phone book, Christian churches outnumber all others better than 200-to-1. So what would you expect -- somebody chanting Hare Krishna?
If I went to a football game in Jerusalem, I would expect to hear a Jewish prayer.
If I went to a soccer game in Baghdad, I would expect to hear a Muslim prayer.
If I went to a ping pong match in China, I would expect to hear someone pray to Buddha.
And I wouldn't be offended. It wouldn't bother me one bit.
When in Rome ......
But what about the atheists? Is another argument.
What about them? Nobody is asking them to be baptized. We're not going to pass the collection plate. Just humor us for 30 seconds. If that's asking too much, bring a Walkman or a pair of earplugs. Go to the bathroom. Visit the concession stand. Call your lawyer!
Unfortunately, one or two will make that call. One or two will tell thousands what they can and cannot do. I don't think a short prayer at a football game is going to shake the world's foundations.
Christians are just sick and tired of turning the other cheek while our courts strip us of all our rights. Our parents and grandparents taught us to pray before eating, to pray before we go to sleep. Our Bible tells us to pray without ceasing. Now a handful of people and their lawyers are telling us to cease praying.
God, help us. And if that last sentence offends you, well, just sue me.
The silent majority has been silent too long. It's time we tell that one or two who scream loud enough to be heard that the vast majority doesn't care what they want. It is time that the majority rules! It's time we tell them, "You don't have to pray; you don't have to say the Pledge of Allegiance; you don't have to believe in God or attend services that honor Him. That is your right, and we will honor your right; but by golly, you are no longer going to take our rights away. We are fighting back, and we WILL WIN!
God bless us one and all...Especially those who denounce Him. God bless America, despite all our faults, We are still the greatest nation of all. God bless our service men who are fighting to protect our right to pray and worship God.
Let's make 2019/2020 the year the silent majority is heard, and we put God back as the foundation of our families and institutions. And our military forces come home from all the wars.
Keep looking up.

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