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[Synopsis]

Isaiah 45:1-7 New International Version (NIV)

45 “This is what the Lord says to his anointed,
    to Cyrus, whose right hand I take hold of
to subdue nations before him
    and to strip kings of their armor,
to open doors before him
    so that gates will not be shut:
² I will go before you
    and will level the mountains^[a];
I will break down gates of bronze
    and cut through bars of iron.
³ I will give you hidden treasures,
    riches stored in secret places,
so that you may know that I am the Lord,
    the God of Israel, who summons you by name.
⁴ For the sake of Jacob my servant,
    of Israel my chosen,
I summon you by name
    and bestow on you a title of honor,
    though you do not acknowledge me.
⁵ I am the Lord, and there is no other;
    apart from me there is no God.
I will strengthen you,
    though you have not acknowledged me,
⁶ so that from the rising of the sun
    to the place of its setting
people may know there is none besides me.
    I am the Lord, and there is no other.
⁷ I form the light and create darkness,
    I bring prosperity and create disaster;
    I, the Lord, do all these things.

Footnotes:

1. Isaiah 45:2 Dead Sea Scrolls and Septuagint; the meaning of the word in the Masoretic Text is uncertain.

 

Isaiah 45:13 New International Version (NIV)

¹³ I will raise up Cyrus^[a] in my righteousness:
    I will make all his ways straight.
He will rebuild my city
    and set my exiles free,
but not for a price or reward,
    says the Lord Almighty.”

Footnotes:

1. Isaiah 45:13 Hebrew him

 

Isaiah 44:24-28 New International Version (NIV)

Jerusalem to Be Inhabited

²⁴ “This is what the Lord says—
    your Redeemer, who formed you in the womb:

I am the Lord,
    the Maker of all things,
    who stretches out the heavens,
    who spreads out the earth by myself,
²⁵ who foils the signs of false prophets
    and makes fools of diviners,
who overthrows the learning of the wise
    and turns it into nonsense,
²⁶ who carries out the words of his servants
    and fulfills the predictions of his messengers,

who says of Jerusalem, ‘It shall be inhabited,’
    of the towns of Judah, ‘They shall be rebuilt,’
    and of their ruins, ‘I will restore them,’
²⁷ who says to the watery deep, ‘Be dry,
    and I will dry up your streams,’
²⁸ who says of Cyrus, ‘He is my shepherd
    and will accomplish all that I please;
he will say of Jerusalem, “Let it be rebuilt,”
    and of the temple, “Let its foundations be laid.”’

 

Daniel 10:1 New International Version (NIV)

Daniel’s Vision of a Man

10 In the third year of Cyrus king of Persia, a revelation was given to Daniel (who was called Belteshazzar). Its message was true and it concerned a great war.^[a] The understanding of the message came to him in a vision.

Footnotes:

1. Daniel 10:1 Or true and burdensome

[MyLadiesDaddy]

5 minutes ago, umbertino said:

 

Once a young woman (white) that I got to know in Bloomington, IN ( she used to work with me at the day-care center where I was volunteering for a year) while we were talking, among many other things,  races ( white, black etc...I was 24 yr old at the time) told me  with her and with a Black young woman also working there.....Well, the white woman suddenly goes:

 

" But Burt....The Bible  tells VERY CLEARLY that the 2 races are not supposed to mix" ( I was telling her I was attracted to Ebony ladies and could only fall in love with them...Infact   a few years later I married , at separate times, 2 of them...)

 

 I could not reply in regard to the Bible  as I didn't know the Bible at all ( and I still don't) but replied withy my own thoughts and reasoning, by saying that was plain absurd, besides being obviously racist......

 

That was Bloomington, IN in 1980/81....I do hope it did evolve since then.....

The Bible does not say you cannot have interracial marriages. My first wife was Mexican. However, the word of God did forbid the Jews from marrying outside their faith. And most Christians today believe the same thing. Doing so would only cause a multitude of problems in a relationship.

 

 

2 minutes ago, Synopsis said:

Isaiah 45:1-7 New International Version (NIV)

45 “This is what the Lord says to his anointed,
    to Cyrus, whose right hand I take hold of
to subdue nations before him
    and to strip kings of their armor,
to open doors before him
    so that gates will not be shut:
² I will go before you
    and will level the mountains^[a];
I will break down gates of bronze
    and cut through bars of iron.
³ I will give you hidden treasures,
    riches stored in secret places,
so that you may know that I am the Lord,
    the God of Israel, who summons you by name.
⁴ For the sake of Jacob my servant,
    of Israel my chosen,
I summon you by name
    and bestow on you a title of honor,
    though you do not acknowledge me.
⁵ I am the Lord, and there is no other;
    apart from me there is no God.
I will strengthen you,
    though you have not acknowledged me,
⁶ so that from the rising of the sun
    to the place of its setting
people may know there is none besides me.
    I am the Lord, and there is no other.
⁷ I form the light and create darkness,
    I bring prosperity and create disaster;
    I, the Lord, do all these things.

Footnotes:

1. Isaiah 45:2 Dead Sea Scrolls and Septuagint; the meaning of the word in the Masoretic Text is uncertain.

 

Isaiah 45:13 New International Version (NIV)

¹³ I will raise up Cyrus^[a] in my righteousness:
    I will make all his ways straight.
He will rebuild my city
    and set my exiles free,
but not for a price or reward,
    says the Lord Almighty.”

Footnotes:

1. Isaiah 45:13 Hebrew him

 

Isaiah 44:24-28 New International Version (NIV)

Jerusalem to Be Inhabited

²⁴ “This is what the Lord says—
    your Redeemer, who formed you in the womb:

I am the Lord,
    the Maker of all things,
    who stretches out the heavens,
    who spreads out the earth by myself,
²⁵ who foils the signs of false prophets
    and makes fools of diviners,
who overthrows the learning of the wise
    and turns it into nonsense,
²⁶ who carries out the words of his servants
    and fulfills the predictions of his messengers,

who says of Jerusalem, ‘It shall be inhabited,’
    of the towns of Judah, ‘They shall be rebuilt,’
    and of their ruins, ‘I will restore them,’
²⁷ who says to the watery deep, ‘Be dry,
    and I will dry up your streams,’
²⁸ who says of Cyrus, ‘He is my shepherd
    and will accomplish all that I please;
he will say of Jerusalem, “Let it be rebuilt,”
    and of the temple, “Let its foundations be laid.”’

 

Daniel 10:1 New International Version (NIV)

Daniel’s Vision of a Man

10 In the third year of Cyrus king of Persia, a revelation was given to Daniel (who was called Belteshazzar). Its message was true and it concerned a great war.^[a] The understanding of the message came to him in a vision.

Footnotes:

1. Daniel 10:1 Or true and burdensome

An AWESOME post 

[Synopsis]

Just now, ladyGrace'sDaddy said:

The Bible does not say you cannot have interracial marriages. My first wife was Mexican. However, the word of God did forbid the Jews from marrying outside their faith. And most Christians today believe the same thing. Doing so would only cause a multitude of problems in a relationship.

 

 

An AWESOME post 

 

 !!!LadyGrace'sDaddy!!! 

 

ALWAYS an Honor AND Joy To Get The Six Of ANOTHER True The United States Of America Patriot STANDING ON AND UTILIZING Reason AND Common Sense AND Decency BASED AND FOUNDED ON THEE four (4) Textual Cornerstones:

• The Bible
• The Constitution Of The United States Of America TO INCLUDE The Ratified Bill Of Rights/Declaration Of Independence/Federalist Papers
• Blackstone English Common Law (stripped of the Crown Entity obligations)
• The Magna Carta

[Pitcher]

3 minutes ago, Shabibilicious said:

Already told you I don't hate Trump....I respect your decision to pass.  On a side note:  It would be helpful if you quoted me when replying....believe it or not, I'm not always online.  Thanks

 

Ok, there you go on your quote.

 

I’m a problem solver Shabbs..  I’m not into *** for tat.  My time is too valuable to do this all day with you.  I read your posts with LGD and others and it’s the same stuff everyday.  Occasionally it gets heated to the point of low blows and name calling.  I’m not into that.  I would rather hear your solutions to some of the country’s major problems like, 

 

Out of control of Government spending

Border Security, illegals voting, Sanctuary Cities

Gun Control and Gun rights

DACA

Socialism

Healthcare and Drug Prices.

ETC, ETC

 

i would rather talk about these and other problems of our country without the Fox or CNN talking points. Also, without the name calling and snarky I know it all answers.  Yes, we are all guilty of this but I would bet we are closer than most would believe on many of these topics.  Maybe we should stop acting like little school children trading idiotic barbs at each other and get into a more intellectual, honest discussion.  

 

 

 

 

 

[umbertino]

2 hours ago, nstoolman1 said:

In the Bible, GOD uses some people who don't fit our ideal. He uses them to accomplish things he wants. If HE wants Trump to be POTUS, He has His reasons.

GOD is in control. HE wins in the end. 

 

Following your line of reasoning then...That's supposed to be valid for all dictators that have ruled various  nations of this world....Communista and fascists as well .....Who infact killed tens of thousands ( or many more) of Folks   ( ie.Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot in Cambodia, all the S.America dictators who killed innocent folks as if there was no tomorrow....)...   I personally do refuse to believe God Almighty ( the Infallible, Perfect and Just one) has ever wanted anything like that...But I certainly might be wrong.....

Edited September 11, 2019 by umbertino

[Shabibilicious]

14 minutes ago, Pitcher said:

 

Ok, there you go on your quote.

 

I’m a problem solver Shabbs..  I’m not into *** for tat.  My time is too valuable to do this all day with you.  I read your posts with LGD and others and it’s the same stuff everyday.  Occasionally it gets heated to the point of low blows and name calling.  I’m not into that.  I would rather hear your solutions to some of the country’s major problems like, 

 

Out of control of Government spending

Border Security, illegals voting, Sanctuary Cities

Gun Control and Gun rights

DACA

Socialism

Healthcare and Drug Prices.

ETC, ETC

 

i would rather talk about these and other problems of our country without the Fox or CNN talking points. Also, without the name calling and snarky I know it all answers.  Yes, we are all guilty of this but I would bet we are closer than most would believe on many of these topics.  Maybe we should stop acting like little school children trading idiotic barbs at each other and get into a more intellectual, honest discussion.  

 

Sounds great.  If everybody plays nice, that would be great. 

 

GO RV, then BV

[umbertino]

1 hour ago, Shabibilicious said:

 

Yes he does.....he's had multiple bankruptcies/contractor cheating restructures to prove it.  Anybody who inherits a 40 million dollar nest egg could do the same.....Truly smart guys like Gates, Jobs, Zuckerberg, etc., make it on their own.  

 

GO RV, then BV

 

400M something

[umbertino]

1 hour ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said:

IF Trump Is POTUS then God wanted him to be. 

 

So exactly same applies for Hitler ( and the Jews were supposed to be God's elect People????)

 

He knows EVERYTHING ( He's God...) So he knew about the imminent massacre / slaughter / genocide......

 

 

What gives?????????

[umbertino]

1 hour ago, Shabibilicious said:

 

I've never one time said I don't believe the Bible.....I've simply stated that the Bible was written by men and edited many times by men.  Don't falsely accuse me, brother....bad form.

 

GO RV, then BV

 

And men are not exactly neutral when it comes to put some of their thoughts / opinions / ideologies in just about anything.....

[Pitcher]

11 minutes ago, Shabibilicious said:

Sounds great.  If everybody plays nice, that would be great. 

 

 

I can do it and if I get out of control, ( name calling, arrogant I’m always right, disrespectful or low blows) just call me on it.  I seriously like to hear all sides of a problem and then make up my own mind.  I don’t need CNN, or Fox, or anyone telling me what to think or how to think.    We all have different upbringings, societal standings, Education, and life experiences.  I believe the country is better if a politician or Political Party can come to an agreement or a compromise as to what is best for the majority of the country vs “it’s my way or the highway”

 

 

[umbertino]

58 minutes ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said:

The Bible does not say you cannot have interracial marriages. My first wife was Mexican. However, the word of God did forbid the Jews from marrying outside their faith. And most Christians today believe the same thing. Doing so would only cause a multitude of problems in a relationship.

 

 

An AWESOME post 

 

Thanks, LGD...Your words  ( as the Bible Expert I do acknowledge you to be) do encourage and reassure me on the issue....Thanks

[nstoolman1]

Umb, GOD knows all. He could stop it all if He wanted. We, as mankind are suppose to learn from our mistakes and turn to GOD. He gives multiple chances for this. These events are to bring HIS people to him. They are chances for us to leave behind our evil thoughts and actions. Some do but others let their egos get in the way and veer from GOD. I am not a bible scholar so I may not express it correctly. 

Evil men will continue to kill and maim until the end comes. One may change and see the error of his ways and that will be a victory for GOD.

[umbertino]

Quote

We all have different upbringings, societal standings, Education, and life experiences.  I believe the country is better if a politician or Political Party can come to an agreement or a compromise as to what is best for the majority of the country vs “it’s my way or the highway”

End Quote

 

All true and thanks , Pitcher.....But how some People are able to get along with what you reported some stating: “it’s my way or the highway”  which is equal to stating " America...Love it or leave it..."

 

I'm sure most Americans do love their Beautiful and fantastic Country but maybe , exactly because they do, they'd like to see some changes in it for the better...Which doesn't mean at all they do not love it....Quite the contray imvho

[bigwave]

On 9/9/2019 at 7:23 AM, Shabibilicious said:

 

GO RV, then BV

Okay every now and then I have to give credit where credit is due. Funny - Thank you, now and again your "dry" humor gets me. LOLOL

[coorslite21]

4 hours ago, Shabibilicious said:

 

Every minute Trump is in office and continues to embarrass this nation and it's citizens for the whole world to see.....I will push back.  Besides policy is only as good as the congress elected to pass the bills.  We should be talking about N.K. and Iran, the mistake of pulling out of Syria too early and abandoning our allies....as well as disparaging our NATO partners.  Instead Donald is focused on himself, optics of his Dorian/Alabama misstep.....trivial useless stuff.  Add to that the GOP win last night by 2% points in a district Trump won by 11 and I would say the GOP needs to figure a way to reign Trump in....because he's losing educated suburban women in droves.  As always, just my opinion.

 

GO RV, then BV

So much to address here....the "World" doesn't know how to take Trump.....he fights for America......and no recent "establishment" elected Prez has done that.....Countries that have had their way with America.... China/Trade......NATO....no one paying the Bill.......Iran....the Obama deal was terrible....so I really don't see Trump has muc ked any of that up.....

 

A win is a win in any event.....moral victories count for little.....JMHO.......   CL

[coorslite21]

4 hours ago, Shabibilicious said:

 

Interestingly enough, I don't see you questioning the bashing coming from people on your political side.....does that mean bashing/fighting is okay if it's coming from a place you align yourself with?  The first stone, so to speak.  Respectfully, my opinion.

 

GO RV, then BV

My political side?........I have donated over a hundred hours of my personal time to one Candidate from the left.....how about you?.....what are you doing for whoever you support.......

Sad thing is.....my choice is getting screwed by her own party....the DNC is just as corrupt as it was in 2016....

 

I would encourage you and others to clean up your own house before taking on Trump......as it is now the DNC is such a mess you're going to see alot more of Trump going forward in 2020....JMHO

CL

Edited September 11, 2019 by coorslite21

[Pitcher]

38 minutes ago, umbertino said:

But how some People are able to get along with what you reported some stating: “it’s my way or the highway”  which is equal to stating " America...Love it or leave it..."

 

Many people in the US are frustrated with their jobs being sent overseas, they are resentful of immigrants who get free housing, free medical, free food and then tell them how to run our country.  If I came to your home and you gave me shelter and food for an extended period and instead of being grateful I was disrespectful, didn’t follow your rules, took advantage of your kindness you would be upset with me, right.  It’s kind of the same thing with many immigrants.  

 

Lets take the Muslims.  They come here from 3rd world countries, they get free housing, medical, transportation, food and more then they want to use their Sharia Law.  They then elect 2 Congress people who disparage Our Jewish population and call our President a Mo’foer.

 

Maybe, just maybe you can be a little understanding why many US people use terms like you just stated.  

[umbertino]

2 hours ago, umbertino said:

 

Once a young woman (white) that I got to know in Bloomington, IN ( she used to work with me at the day-care center where I was volunteering for a year) while we were talking, among many other things,  races ( white, black etc...I was 24 yr old at the time) told me  while a Black young woman also working there was right there listening........Well, the white woman suddenly goes:

 

" But Burt....The Bible  tells VERY CLEARLY that the 2 races are not supposed to mix" ( I was telling her I was attracted to Ebony ladies and could only fall in love with them...Infact   a few years later I married , at separate times, 2 of them...)

 

 I could not reply in regard to the Bible  as I didn't know the Bible at all ( and I still don't) but replied withy my own thoughts and reasoning, by saying that was plain absurd, besides being obviously racist......

 

That was Bloomington, IN in 1980/81....I do hope it did evolve since then.....

 

Forgot to mention that in Martinsville, IN ...Just a few miles from Bloomington there was ( at least at that time) a chapter of KKK.......No comment

[umbertino]

1 hour ago, nstoolman1 said:

Umb, GOD knows all. He could stop it all if He wanted. We, as mankind are suppose to learn from our mistakes and turn to GOD. He gives multiple chances for this. These events are to bring HIS people to him. They are chances for us to leave behind our evil thoughts and actions. Some do but others let their egos get in the way and veer from GOD. I am not a bible scholar so I may not express it correctly. 

Evil men will continue to kill and maim until the end comes. One may change and see the error of his ways and that will be a victory for GOD.

 

Ok....Thanks for your well-received explanation........I'll think it over......

 

 

Best

[umbertino]

9 minutes ago, Pitcher said:

 

Many people in the US are frustrated with their jobs being sent overseas, they are resentful of immigrants who get free housing, free medical, free food and then tell them how to run our country.  If I came to your home and you gave me shelter and food for an extended period and instead of being grateful I was disrespectful, didn’t follow your rules, took advantage of your kindness you would be upset with me, right.  It’s kind of the same thing with many immigrants.  

 

Lets take the Muslims.  They come here from 3rd world countries, they get free housing, medical, transportation, food and more then they want to use their Sharia Law.  They then elect 2 Congress people who disparage Our Jewish population and call our President a Mo’foer.

 

Maybe, just maybe you can be a little understanding why many US people use terms like you just stated.  

 

Ok....Thanks.....

[coorslite21]

5 hours ago, Shabibilicious said:

 

Every minute Trump is in office and continues to embarrass this nation and it's citizens for the whole world to see.....I will push back.  

 

Some push back to your push back...I recall this embarrassment.....and Obama dismissed it....."happens all the time".......

No it doesn't.....especially with the Chinese.....

 

 

 

[MyLadiesDaddy]

2 hours ago, umbertino said:

 

So exactly same applies for Hitler ( and the Jews were supposed to be God's elect People????)

 

He knows EVERYTHING ( He's God...) So he knew about the imminent massacre / slaughter / genocide......

 

 

What gives?????????

I've explained this many times before, yes God allowed Hitler to be. 

YOU GET THE GOVERNMENT YOU DESERVE. 

[umbertino]

5 hours ago, umbertino said:

 

400M something

 

 

New York Times: Trump Got $413 Million From His Dad, Largely From Tax Dodges

 

THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

2 ottobre 2018, 22:57 CEST Updated on 3 ottobre 2018, 04:18 CEST

 

 

 

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-10-02/ny-times-trump-got-413m-from-his-dad-much-from-tax-dodges

[umbertino]

5 hours ago, bigwave said:

Okay every now and then I have to give credit where credit is due. Funny - Thank you, now and again your "dry" humor gets me. LOLOL

 

Very  funny....Thanks bigwave...That shows also you are open-minded ( at  least on jokes....Surely also on a lot of other things)...A great quality indeed......

[umbertino]

3 hours ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said:

I've explained this many times before, yes God allowed Hitler to be. 

YOU GET THE GOVERNMENT YOU DESERVE. 

 

 

I respect your opinion on that but I do not agree  with it at all...Just a matter of ENORMOUS  bad luck ( plus various interests fed by the PTB, industrialists etc).........jmvho

 

 

I'm sure both German and Israeli people wouldn't agree with that either.......And a lot of other Peoples in Europe