President Trump Speaks On Hurricane Dorian and Border Wall

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Just now, bostonangler said:

He used a sharpie to fake the map.... LOL What is he 10?

 

B/A

 

What an awful thing to say about 10 year olds.  

 

GO RV, then BV

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1. POLITICS

President Trump altered map showing Hurricane Dorian’s path with black Sharpie, White House official says

Updated 6:24 AM; Today 6:11 AM

By The Washington Post

He posted nine tweets and five maps about Alabama and the big storm.

He defended a doctored hurricane map that had been altered with a black Sharpie to include the state.

And he had his White House release a 225-word statement defending his erroneous warnings that Alabama was "going to get a piece" of the storm.

As Hurricane Dorian battered the Carolinas with torrential rain and wind Thursday, President Donald Trump remained fixated on sunny Alabama - a state he falsely claimed was in the storm's crosshairs long after it was in the clear.

 

For a fourth straight day, Trump's White House sought to clean up the president's mistaken warnings to Alabama from Sunday, seeking to defend Trump's tweets by releasing statements, disseminating alternative hurricane maps and attacking the media.

Trump also took to Twitter again to defend his use of a doctored and outdated hurricane map that looped in Alabama using black marker - the latest iteration in a days-long, administration-wide campaign on the topic.

In effect, Trump was attempting to bend time - claiming that a projection that was several days out of date was accurate at the time he warned Alabama of a dire threat that didn't exist.

"Just as I said, Alabama was originally projected to be hit," Trump tweeted Thursday, highlighting week-old maps that showed a low probability of tropical-storm winds in a small corner of Alabama. "The Fake News denies it!"

Trump's fixation on his erroneous Dorian warnings underscores a long history of defending inaccurate claims - from the crowd size at his inaugural address to false claims of voter fraud in 2016 to fictional "unknown Middle Easterners" streaming across the southern border in migrant caravans.

Tim O'Brien, a Trump biographer and executive editor of Bloomberg Opinion, said the Alabama claims underscore the president's belief that admitting error is a sign of weakness.

 

"He's doubling down on the worst sides of his troubled personality - to never admit an error and to continue obsessing about it, and emphasizing it, when it doesn't serve him well to do so," he said. "He doesn't move along because he is incapable of moving along."

Trump, who canceled a trip to Poland to monitor the storm, was especially sensitive to the criticism he has received for misrepresenting the hurricane's path, according to current and former officials.

"Always good to be prepared! But the Fake News is only interested in demeaning and belittling," Trump tweeted Monday, complaining about an ABC News report that highlighted the discrepancy between Trump's warnings to Alabama and the government's assurance that the state was not under threat.

"What I said was accurate! All Fake News in order to demean!" Trump tweeted Thursday, adding: "I accept the Fake News apologies!"

Trump, who has privately and publicly griped about media coverage during the Group of 7 summit last month, complained extensively to administration officials this week about coverage of the Alabama issue and asked aides to bring him old briefings showing Alabama in the line of target. Even as the Category 2 hurricane knocked out power and damaged property in the Carolinas on Thursday, Trump was highlighting old maps in an attempt to prove that his original claims about Alabama were accurate.

 

The White House also released a lengthy statement from Trump's homeland security and counterterrorism adviser, Rear Adm. Peter Brown, that sought to defend Trump's statements and his use of days-old maps.

"While speaking to the press on Sunday, September 1, the President addressed Hurricane Dorian and its potential impact on multiple states, including Alabama," Brown wrote. "The President's comments were based on that morning's Hurricane Dorian briefing, which included the possibility of tropical storm force winds in southeastern Alabama."

It was Trump who used a black Sharpie to mark up an official National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration map, which he displayed during an Oval Office briefing on Wednesday, according to a White House official who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal deliberations.

"No one else writes like that on a map with a black Sharpie," the official said of the map, which added Alabama into the hurricane's potential pathway inside the loop of the marker.

Several White House officials argued that media coverage of the Alabama issue has been unfair to Trump, but one senior administration official said that "as long as it's in the news, he is not going to drop it."

 

Trump has recently fixated on minor targets of grievance that aides and Republican lawmakers would prefer he avoid, such as former aide Anthony Scaramucci, actress Debra Messing and an Axios story that said he proposed bombing hurricanes to stop their progress.

On Sunday, after a weekend spent at Camp David with afternoons at his Virginia golf course, Trump warned multiple times that Alabama was likely to be hit. But the storm had already turned northward at that point, and models from the National Hurricane Center did not show Alabama at any significant risk.

Twenty minutes after Trump tweeted Sunday that Alabama was among states that would "most likely be hit (much) harder than anticipated," the National Weather Service in Birmingham, Alabama, tweeted bluntly that was not the case.

"Alabama will NOT see any impacts from #Dorian. We repeat, no impacts from Hurricane #Dorian will be felt across Alabama," it said. "The system will remain too far east."

Just a few minutes later, the president spoke to reporters and again claimed that Alabama was "going to get a piece of it."

Brown, who joined the White House National Security Council from the Coast Guard, had been assigned to give weekend updates to Trump on the storm.

 

“We spent two days at Camp David going over a lot of different things having to do with the hurricane,” Trump said of Brown. “The admiral has informed me through all of the different sources that he has - but you can pretty much get it on television, admiral - this is now a Category 5.”

An NSC spokesman did not respond to questions about whether Brown had briefed the president about updated forecasts over the weekend that showed Alabama in the clear.

Brown said in his statement Thursday that he had briefed Trump on the hurricane Sunday morning using forecasts from the National Hurricane Center that showed a remote possibility of tropical-storm winds in a southeast corner of Alabama. He said he also briefed Trump using other meteorological models.

"These products showed possible storm impacts well outside the official forecast cone," he wrote.

During a briefing at FEMA headquarters on Sunday afternoon, Trump acknowledged governors who had dialed in from Florida, Georgia, South Carolina and North Carolina. He then turned to a state that wasn't represented on the line.

"It may get a little piece of a great place: It's called Alabama," Trump said. "And Alabama could even be in for at least some very strong winds and something more than that, it could be. This just came up, unfortunately. It's the size of the storm that we're talking about. So, for Alabama, just please be careful also."

 

Maps tweeted out by Trump on Thursday showed part of southeastern Alabama with a 5 to 20 percent chance of tropical-storm-force winds - a week-old forecast that was long out of date by the time the president tweeted out his warnings to the state Sunday.

Trump claimed Wednesday that Alabama had faced a 95 percent chance of a direct hit, a claim not borne out by meteorological models.

Some Democrats criticized Trump for focusing on the wrong thing during a natural disaster.

South Bend, Indiana, Mayor Pete Buttigieg, who is running for the Democratic nomination for president, said on CNN Thursday that he felt "sorry for the president."

“I don’t know if he felt it necessary to pull out a Sharpie and change the map, I don’t know if one of his aides felt they had to do that to protect his ego,” he said. “No matter how you cut it, this is an unbelievably sad state of affairs for our country.”

https://www.masslive.com/politics/2019/09/candidates-forum-organizers-ask-why-is-springfield-mayor-domenic-sarno-hiding.html

 

GO RV, then BV

[MyLadiesDaddy]

1 hour ago, Shabibilicious said:

 

Every one of those maps you posted is either from the 28th or 29th of August....4 to 5 days before Donald made his misinformed Alabama claim.  You only continue to prove he made a mistake, which is fine, if he and people like yourself would simply own the mistake and move on.  Now is the time for truth brother.....he will continue to make these kinds of mistakes and then double down on them because he knows TWS nation will back his play at all cost, including the cost of their lost integrity....And the simple reason his knowledge of Dorian was completely outdated was because he was GOLFING when he should have been focused on the task at hand.  Below is a quote of yours from the climate thread arguing the quickness of changing weather, in complete opposition to the weather maps you posted.  All I'm asking is that you try the truth on in this matter, you know it's the right thing to do.

 

 

GO RV, then BV 

Once again you're confused thinking that I'm some sort of Trump groupy. I originally saw the same earlier maps that Trump did and I didn't believe it was going to move north until it did. 

I didn't believe that because EVERY LUNATIC FRINGE REPORTER was saying it would go north. Considering how EVIL the media has been toward Trump I'd say it would be a fair assessment that he felt the same way.

And it's the LUNATIC FRINGE who won't let this go, simply because they cannot miss any opportunity to make someone they hate to look bad. Pathetic really. Like YOU are never wrong 

[Shabibilicious]

16 minutes ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said:

Like YOU are never wrong 

 

That's close enough to an admission of being wrong for me......Good job, brother....baby steps.    Maybe Donald will do the same, take his well earned lumps, let it go, and focus on real issues that effect real Americans......Yeah sure, one can only hope.   

 

GO RV, then BV

[MyLadiesDaddy]

 

[Shabibilicious]

15 minutes ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said:

 

 

Hahahaha.....though probably doctored by a Trumpkin, that's funny right there.  The bigger question is, why would Donald not mention Mississippi being in the path Dorian on his old map?  Does he have something against Mississippi?  Did Mississippi disparage Donald recently?  What is Donald's problem with Mississippi?  Note:  My response has been pure sarcasm for those who may be confused. 

 

GO RV, then BV

[Synopsis]

1 hour ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said:

Once again you're confused thinking that I'm some sort of Trump groupy. I originally saw the same earlier maps that Trump did and I didn't believe it was going to move north until it did. 

I didn't believe that because EVERY LUNATIC FRINGE REPORTER was saying it would go north. Considering how EVIL the media has been toward Trump I'd say it would be a fair assessment that he felt the same way.

And it's the LUNATIC FRINGE who won't let this go, simply because they cannot miss any opportunity to make someone they hate to look bad. Pathetic really. Like YOU are never wrong 

 

      

 

It is disappointing, LadyGrace'sDaddy, for YOU to have to state THEE OBVIOUS HERE AND ELSEWHERE!!!

 

THEE Lil' Winkie-Tinkie "groupie" "keyboard" "combatant" IS "lifting" THEE "lil'" "leg" TO "tinkie" ON Facts AND Data AND Reason AND Common Sense AND Decency TO "mark" THEIR "territory".

 

      

 

FACTS:

• Models are JUST THAT - Models. NO Model can 100% accurately predict (or even close to 100%) the path of ANY hurricane.
• Marshaling disaster relief personnel, equipment, resources, WITH humanitarian aid takes time BEFORE THE DISASTER OCCURS.
• Preparedness IS FUNDAMENTAL TO A DISASTER TO REDUCE THE LIKELIHOOD OF LOSS OF LIFE WHICH The True United States Of America Patriot President Donald J Trump IS RESPONSIBLE FOR OVERSEEING IN TIMES OF DISASTER.
• The PUBLISHED AND CURRENT PROJECTIONS OF Dorian's PATH WERE THE BEST AVAILABLE FROM THE MOST TRUSTED SOURCE(S) WHEN THE ANNOUNCEMENT WAS MADE AND TIMELY ACTIONS TAKEN TO STAGE RESOURCES FOR ALABAMA AND OTHER AREAS IN A TIMELY MANNER.
• The EARLIER PUBLISHED AND CURRENT PROJECTIONS OF Dorian's PATH WERE GROSSLY INACCURATE.
• The True United States Of America Patriot President Donald J Trump ADJUSTED DISASTER RELIEF PLANS ACCORDINGLY.

SO...........................................................................................

 

WHAT, pray tell, IS THEE ACTUAL CONCLUSION???!!!

• THEE Models are to be reviewed along with ACTUAL conditions affecting the prediction of the models to adjust the parameters in the models to more accurately predict Hurricane paths and impact cycles within the life of the Tropical Depression THROUGH Hurricane stages AND THEN BACK TO Tropical Depression.
• NO Model WILL BE 100% ACCURATE OR EVEN 70% ACCURATE. TOO MANY PARAMETERS THAT ARE ALSO AFFECTED BY OTHER PARAMETERS.
• Review existing disaster relief plans for timelines, personnel, resources, AND logistics to supply THEE MOST REASONABLE AND TIMELY DISASTER RELIEF AS POSSIBLE.
• Individuals MUST TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEIR OWN PERSONAL SAFETY AND WELL BEING AND ADJUST AS NECESSARY BASED ON THE MOST CURRENT INFORMATION TO ENSURE THEIR OWN SAFETY AND WELL BEING.
• The True United States Of America Patriot President Donald J Trump PROVIDED THEE MOST TIMELY, REASONABLE, AND RESPONSIBLE DISASTER RELIEF PROVISIONS BASED ON THEE ACTUAL INFORMATION AT THE TIME THE DECISIONS WERE MADE AND ADJUSTED THE PLANS AND RESOURCES TO MEET THE ACTUAL Hurricane Dorian DISASTER LOCATIONS ACCORDINGLY.

 

https://www.wunderground.com/hurricane/atlantic/2019/hurricane-dorian&MR=1

 

The Models from a little over a week ago SHOWED DORIAN WAS GOING TO HIT ALABAMA ON SUNDAY TO MONDAY. Three (3) OR four (4) days IS NOT A WHOLE LOTTA TIME TO GET DISASTER RELIEF RESOURCES IN PLACE.

 

The True United States Of America Patriot President Donald J Trump MADE THEE MOST RESPONSIBLE AND REASONABLE CHOICES FOR DISASTER RELIEF DUE TO Hurricane Dorian IN SPITE OF THE GROSSLY IN ACCURATE MODEL(S) AT THE TIME THE NECESSARY DECISIONS WERE MADE!!!

 

Go E Pluribus Unum FOREVER!!!

 

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Go True The United States Of America Patriot President Donald J Trump THROUGH 2024!!!

 

Go True The United States Of America Patriots!!!

 

(A Special THANK YOU To ALL The Red Rubymeisters IN ADVANCE For ALL The Red Ruby Citations As Badges Of Honor For ME For "Display Of Intellectual Speed And Power" Whot HTINK (misnomer, of course) The True The United States Of America Patriot President Donald J Trump IS A POS!!!)!!!

 

Go Red Rubymeisters (ELSEWHERE!!!)!!!

 

Go Moola Nova (YEAH AND YEE HAW, BABY, READY WHEN YOU ARE BROTHER (OR SISTER) - LET 'ER BUCK!!!)!!!

   

[Synopsis]

13 minutes ago, Synopsis said:

(A Special THANK YOU To ALL The Red Rubymeisters IN ADVANCE For ALL The Red Ruby Citations As Badges Of Honor For ME For "Display Of Intellectual Speed And Power" Whot HTINK (misnomer, of course) The True The United States Of America Patriot President Donald J Trump IS A POS!!!)!!!

 

WOWZERS!!!

 

A Red Rubymeister REALLY DID Give ME A Red Ruby Citation As A Badge Of Honor For ME For "Display Of Intellectual Speed And Power"!!!

 

THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU Red Rubymeister!!!

 

      

 

Go E Pluribus Unum FOREVER!!!

 

Go MAGA FOREVER!!!

 

Go True The United States Of America Patriot President Donald J Trump THROUGH 2024!!!

 

Go True The United States Of America Patriots FOREVER!!!

 

(A Special THANK YOU To ALL The Red Rubymeisters IN ADVANCE For ALL The Red Ruby Citations As Badges Of Honor For ME For "Display Of Intellectual Speed And Power" Whot HTINK (misnomer, of course) The True The United States Of America Patriot President Donald J Trump IS A POS!!!)!!!

 

Go Red Rubymeisters (ELSEWHERE!!!) FOREVER!!!

 

Go Moola Nova (YEAH AND YEE HAW, BABY, READY WHEN YOU ARE BROTHER (OR SISTER) - LET 'ER BUCK!!!)!!!

   

[caz1104]

6 hours ago, bostonangler said:

He used a sharpie to fake the map.... LOL What is he 10?

 

B/A

no ur hero Barry is a little older than 10.....tho his actions as POTUS certainly qualified him to be

[coorslite21]

On 9/5/2019 at 12:39 PM, Shabibilicious said:

 

And thank you for your thoughts, CL.....sadly it doesn't look like Tulsi is going to be afforded a chance.  I do look forward to see who eventually rises to the top.  As with all the candidates there are issues I agree with and some I don't.  I'm not interested in the full blown democratic socialism platform, so time will tell.  Mayor Pete and Andrew Yang are interesting and refreshing....Yang is obviously very educated.  

 

GO RV, then BV

 

Have to agree with you on your statements....we have discussed news feeds we follow......you may enjoy this one with real investigative journalists discussing why Yang and company are being "iced out" by the DNC and MSM.....interesting stage name used by the Lady commentator......but excellent analysis of the situation.....hope you have a great weekend......    CL

 

 

 

[coorslite21]

13 hours ago, Shabibilicious said:

 

Hahahaha.....though probably doctored by a Trumpkin, that's funny right there.  The bigger question is, why would Donald not mention Mississippi being in the path Dorian on his old map?  Does he have something against Mississippi?  Did Mississippi disparage Donald recently?  What is Donald's problem with Mississippi?  Note:  My response has been pure sarcasm for those who may be confused. 

 

GO RV, then BV

 

 

 

Perhaps this WAPO article.....(left leaning publication)....will put an end to all this nonsense....and BS.....about Alabama....in the realm of things......just a pimple on a frog's arse anyhow....!   

 

I mean really....who cares about this "gottcha" crap anyhow!

 

 CL

 

Democracy Dies in Darkness

Capital Weather Gang

NOAA backs Trump on Alabama hurricane forecast, rebukes Weather Service for accurately contradicting him

The Alabama office’s forecast for Hurricane Dorian turned out to be accurate.

 

 

President Trump on Sept. 4 held up a map of Hurricane Dorian featuring an apparent Sharpie-drawn circle to falsely extend its projected path. (The Washington Post)

By Jason Samenow, Andrew Freedmanand Matthew Cappucci 

September 6, 2019 at 8:52 PM EDT

The federal agency that oversees the National Weather Service has sided with President Trump over its own scientists in the ongoing controversy over whether Alabama was at risk of a direct hit from Hurricane Dorian.

In a statement released Friday afternoon, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) stated Alabama was in fact threatened by the storm at the time Trump tweeted Alabama would “most likely be hit (much) harder than anticipated.”

Referencing archived hurricane advisories, the NOAA statement said that information provided to the president and the public between Aug. 28 and Sept. 2 “demonstrated that tropical-storm-force winds from Hurricane Dorian could impact Alabama."

 

President Trump showed a doctored hurricane chart. Was it to cover up for ‘Alabama’ Twitter flub?

In an unusual move, the statement also admonished its National Weather Service office in Birmingham, Ala., which had released a tweetcontradicting Trump’s claim and stating, “Alabama will NOT see any impacts from #Dorian.”

The NOAA statement said: “The Birmingham National Weather Service’s Sunday morning tweet spoke in absolute terms that were inconsistent with probabilities from the best forecast products available at the time."

 

 

Released six days after Trump’s first tweet on the matter, the NOAA statement was unsigned, neither from the acting head of the agency nor any particular spokesman. It also came a day after the president’s homeland security and counterterrorism adviser released a statement justifying Trump’s claims of the Alabama threat.

 

The NOAA statement Friday makes no reference to the fact that when Trump tweeted that Alabama was at risk, it was not in the National Hurricane Center’s “cone of uncertainty,” which is where forecasters determine the storm is most likely to track. Alabama also had not appeared in the cone in days earlier, and no Hurricane Center text product ever mentioned the state.

Trump’s tweet that Alabama would be affected by the storm gained national attention Wednesday when he presented a modified version of the forecast cone from Aug. 29, extended into Alabama — hand-drawn using a Sharpie. The crudely altered map appeared to represent an effort to retroactively justify the original Alabama tweet.

Comparison between the actual "cone of uncertainty" graphic Aug. 29 and the one shown in the White House video on Sept. 4. (NOAA/White House)

The doctored map went viral, becoming a source of ridicule among political pundits and late-night talk show hosts, who accused the president of dishonesty.

 

‘Mr. President, you’re going to weather jail’: Trump roasted for altered Hurricane Dorian map

Altering official government weather forecasts is actually illegal. Per 18 U.S. Code 2074, which addresses false weather reports: “Whoever knowingly issues or publishes any counterfeit weather forecast or warning of weather conditions falsely representing such forecast or warning to have been issued or published by the Weather Bureau, United States Signal Service, or other branch of the Government service, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ninety days, or both.” (The Weather Service is the modern version of the Weather Bureau.)

In the face of criticism about the modified map, Trump fired off additional tweets Wednesday and Thursday, insisting Alabama was at risk all along, including presenting a map from Aug. 29 depicting a small possibility that Alabama would see tropical-storm-force winds.

 

Asked on Sept. 4 about a map of Hurricane Dorian that appeared to be altered by a Sharpie, President Trump said he wasn’t aware of it. (The Washington Post)

The map indicated only a 5 percent to 20 percent chance of such conditions in parts of Alabama beginning Monday. However, by the time of Trump’s tweet Sept. 1, those odds were down to a 5 percent chance of tropical storm conditions in a sliver of extreme southeastern Alabama.

 

Ten days ago, computer model predictions did present a scenario in which Dorian would strike Florida, enter the Gulf of Mexico and potentially affect Alabama. However, by Aug. 29, when the president was briefed by acting NOAA administrator Neil Jacobs, that scenario had become highly unlikely. By Sunday morning, when Trump tweeted about the Alabama threat, no credible computer model showed any risk to the state.

The Weather Service’s mission is to protect life and property. By releasing the statement admonishing the agency for an accurate forecast, NOAA may be seen as putting politics before facts. This could undermine forecasters’ ability to carry out their mission to the point where people may come to see its weather forecasts as political and untrustworthy.

Many meteorologists, recognizing Alabama was at no risk, expressed their ire on Twitter, stating Trump should have instead focused on communicating Dorian’s hazards to the Southeast coast and dispensed with his preoccupation with Alabama.

 

 

James Franklin, the former chief of a prediction unit at the National Hurricane Center, expressed support for the Birmingham Weather Service office that NOAA admonished.

“I thought Birmingham’s statement Sunday morning that Alabama would see no impacts from Dorian was spot-on and an appropriate response to the President’s misleading tweet that morning,” he wrote in an email. The Hurricane Center’s "wind-speed-probability product serves as guidance to forecasters, and it showed only a very small likelihood of tropical-storm-force winds in the state, and essentially zero chance of hurricane-force winds.”

He stated: “I am very surprised that NOAA’s statement today seems to not recognize the value its forecasters add every day to NWS products and services.”

Dan Sobien, president of the NWS Employees Union, stated in a tweet Friday evening that “The hard-working employees of the NWS had nothing to do with the utterly disgusting and disingenuous tweet sent out by NOAA management tonight.”

 

 

 

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NWS chief backs forecasters who contradicted Trump

 

Associated Press•September 9, 2019

 

 

 

National Weather Service Director Louis Uccellini addresses a meeting of the National Weather Association in Huntsville, Ala., Monday, Sept. 9, 2019. Uccellini defended forecasters who contradicted President Donald Trump's claim that Hurricane Dorian posed a threat to Alabama as it approached the United States. (AP Photo/Jay Reeves)

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HUNTSVILLE, Ala. (AP) — The head of the National Weather Service issued a strong public defense Monday of forecasters who contradicted President Donald Trump's claim that Hurricane Dorian posed a threat to Alabama as it approached the United States.

Director Louis Uccellini said forecasters in Birmingham did the right thing Sept. 1 when they tried to combat public panic and rumors that Dorian posed a threat to Alabama. It was only later that they found out the source of the mistaken information, he said.

Speaking at a meeting of the National Weather Association, Uccellini said Birmingham forecasters "did what any office would do to protect the public."

"They did that with one thing in mind: public safety," said Uccellini, who prompted a standing ovation from hundreds of forecasters by asking members of the Birmingham weather staff to stand.

Earlier, the president of the 2,100-member association, Paul Schlatter, said any forecast office "would have done the exact same thing" as the Birmingham forecast office.

Trump has defended his tweet about Alabama, and he displayed an altered forecast map in the Oval Office last week in an attempt to make his point. Apparently siding with the president, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration issued an unsigned statement critical of the Birmingham forecasters Friday.

But Alabama had never been included in hurricane advisories and Trump's information, based on less authoritative computer models than an official forecast, was outdated when he sent a tweet saying Alabama could be affected by Dorian.

Discussing the flurry of social media contacts and phone calls that followed Trump's tweet, Uccellini said Birmingham forecasters used "an emphasis they deemed essential to shut down what they thought were rumors" when they posted on social media that Alabama's wasn't at risk.

"Only later, when the retweets and politically based comments started coming to their office, did they learn the sources of this information," he said.

 

https://news.yahoo.com/nws-chief-backs-forecasters-contradicted-142508765.html

 

GO RV, then BV

[bostonangler]

Trump news: President says Bahamas full of 'bad gang members', as official threatens to fire NOAA employees over Hurricane Dorian claims

Donald Trump is campaigning in North Carolina on Monday in support of Republican Mark Harris, who faces a strong challenge in a special election in a district that the president carried overwhelmingly in 2016.

During an impromptu press conference before boarding his plane to that state, Mr Trump shocked reports by telling them that he is hesitant to allow Bahamians to enter the US after Hurricane Dorian because the island is full of "bad gang members". Also during that press conference, the president repeatedly said that Barack Obama had given him a present by leaving judicial vacancies, and repeatedly insisted that pundits had misanalysed the 2018 election results — in which Republicans lost control of the House — because his party had retained control of the Senate in an election year that favoured the GOP.

Speaking of Hurricane Dorian, Mr Trump's use of a sharpie to modify a hurricane projection map has kept in the news, with reports indicating that employees of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration had been threatened by the Commerce Department if they contradicted the commander-in-chief when he claimed that the storm was set to smash into Alabama.

As Mr Trump returns to campaign mode once again, the president has also faced a burgeoning field of Republican challengers to him in 2020, prompting him to declare that he would not join a debate stage with any of them.

Mr Trump also engaged in a fight with Chrissy Teigen and her husband, John Legend, who called the president a "p**** a** b****".

And, Mr Trump has also been accused of treating foreign policy "like a gameshow", after talks with the Taliban broke down before they even started at Camp David.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-news-live-president-faces-074235405.html

 

 

He is losing it, right before your eyes.

B/A

[nstoolman1]

He is not the one losing it. The media has already lost it with their constant attacks and miscues. 

 

There are gangs in the Bahamas and Alabama has been hit by hurricanes. 

 

And only one potential Republican candidate does not make a burgeoning field.

 

 

 

[bostonangler]

1 hour ago, nstoolman1 said:

He is not the one losing it. The media has already lost it with their constant attacks and miscues. 

 

There are gangs in the Bahamas and Alabama has been hit by hurricanes. 

 

And only one potential Republican candidate does not make a burgeoning field.

 

 

 

 

He is losing it and his own party members are saying... By the way there are gangs in Utah and they get wild fires, maybe we need to make the gang members do some raking... 

 

B/A