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Climate change lies exposed; Jones & Company

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16 hours ago, 8th ID said:

Here is what I think of that made up, fake news graph... :bs:

Lmao so now NASA is putting out made up fake news........Typical responds to numbers that are fact and can’t be made up. The numbers come from ice cores from glaciers a million years ago! You know the glaciers. The ones that are disappearing in the Fake climate Change! 

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7 hours ago, Indraman said:

 

@caddieman

 

You sure throw a lot of PROPOGANDA (BS) out into the forum thinking you have made some conclusion that no one can dispute. However, the graph above shows nothing more than CO2 measurements in the atmosphere over time. And what does this prove? This graph has about as much relevance to 'Global Warming' as a graph of Ford Mustang sales.

 

Indy

Do you think CO2 is a green house gas?

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12 hours ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said:

You and 95% of the rest of America 

 

How can you be so sure...95% of the rest of America????

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Would you bet your paycheck on a weather forecast for tomorrow? If not, then why should this country bet billions on “global warming” predictions that have even less foundation? 

 

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AOC says Hurricane Dorian 'is what climate change looks like': 'This is about science & leadership'

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On 9/4/2019 at 1:30 PM, Shabibilicious said:

 

Seems like you're cherry picking the article when you only use the facts above, but ignore the scientific consensus in the very same article, per the link you provided.  

 

https://www.space.com/17683-earth-atmosphere.html

Climate and weather

Earth is able to support system" rel="">support a wide variety of living beings because of its diverse regional climates, which range from extreme cold at the poles to tropical heat at the Equator. Regional climate is often described as the average weather in a place over more than 30 years. A region's climate is often described, for example, as sunny, windy, dry, or humid. These can also describe the weather in a certain place, but while the weather can change in just a few hours, climate changes over a longer span of time.

Earth's global climate is an average of regional climates. The global climate has cooled and warmed throughout history. Today, we are seeing unusually rapid warming. The scientific consensus is that greenhouse gases, which are increasing because of human activities, are trapping heat in the atmosphere.

 

GO RV, then BV

 

Hey Shabs, science is based on fact not consensus or at least it was when I was in college, but that was a while back. Today the left changes definitions to suit their sick socialist needs. ou can either prove a theory or you can't. And if you cannot then you cannot say it is fact. Period.

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4 minutes ago, md11fr8dawg said:

Hey Shabs, science is based on fact not consensus or at least it was when I was in college, but that was a while back. Today the left changes definitions to suit their sick socialist needs. ou can either prove a theory or you can't. And if you cannot then you cannot say it is fact. Period.

 

And I agree with that, but in this case you got it backwards.....the consensus was reached by the direct result of science, not the other way around.  Read the article Indy posted, it's right there.

 

GO RV, then BV

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Makes sense to me. Blows a hole in the consensus Climate Change BS. ALL ABOUT THE $$$$$. And guess who pays, hmmmm!!!

 

Global Warming is Undermined by New Discoveries 

 
432

Blog/Climate

POSTED SEP 4, 2019 BY MARTIN ARMSTRONG

Global-Warming-Saving-Planet-300x200.jpg

Nobody wants to listen to the evidence against Global Warming because the government doesn’t hand out money for research that fails to justify new taxes. Real scientists have just discovered a massive previously unknown source of nitrogen that could turn the Global Warming nonsense on its head. My bet is that it will be ignored. There is too much money on the table to just walk away.

This new discovery may dramatically change those dire global warming forecasts that are now a religion. The findings were published in the prestigious Journal Science, whereby the previous eco-science assumed the only source of nitrogen was the atmosphere. Scientists recently discovered that the planet holds vast storehouses of nitrogen, which is essential for plant life, in its bedrock.

This new discovery alters the entire theory behind Global Warming caused by humans. The University of California at Davis environmental scientist and co-author of the study, Ben Houlton, said, “This runs counter the centuries-long paradigm that has laid the foundation for the environmental sciences.”

Now, pay very close attention to the word “paradigm” which he is using. Clearly, if Houlton’s discovery of a vast storehouse of nitrogen is correct, then it would have an enormous impact on global warming predictions. Why?

Climate scientists have long known that plants offset some of the effects of climate change by absorbing and storing CO2. But climate scientists assumed that the ability for plants to perform this function was limited because the availability of nitrogen in the atmosphere was limited.

A 2003 study published in the same science journal stated, “There will not be enough nitrogen available to sustain the high carbon uptake scenarios.” You see scientists who have NOT been on the payroll for Global Warming understand this is all nonsense. Ronald Amundson, a soil biogeochemist at the University of California at Berkeley, publicly told Chemical and Engineering News that “If there is more nitrogen there than expected, then the constraints on plant growth in a high-CO2 world may not be as great as we think.”

CO2-Cycle-300x200.jpg

Remember high school science class? Remember that with more nitrogen available, then plant life will still grow? And guess what, they absorb more CO2 than climate scientists have been estimating. That means the dire forecasts that we have 12 years to live being championed by AOC and the Democrats are completely inaccurate. The planet won’t warm as much with plant life absorbing the CO2 mankind pumps into the atmosphere.

Nevertheless, because this field of research is not under global warming grants, we should not expect this information to ever make it to the mainstream media.

 

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50 minutes ago, md11fr8dawg said:

Makes sense to me. Blows a hole in the consensus Climate Change BS. ALL ABOUT THE $$$$$. And guess who pays, hmmmm!!!

 

Global Warming is Undermined by New Discoveries 

 
432

Blog/Climate

POSTED SEP 4, 2019 BY MARTIN ARMSTRONG

Global-Warming-Saving-Planet-300x200.jpg

Nobody wants to listen to the evidence against Global Warming because the government doesn’t hand out money for research that fails to justify new taxes. Real scientists have just discovered a massive previously unknown source of nitrogen that could turn the Global Warming nonsense on its head. My bet is that it will be ignored. There is too much money on the table to just walk away.

This new discovery may dramatically change those dire global warming forecasts that are now a religion. The findings were published in the prestigious Journal Science, whereby the previous eco-science assumed the only source of nitrogen was the atmosphere. Scientists recently discovered that the planet holds vast storehouses of nitrogen, which is essential for plant life, in its bedrock.

This new discovery alters the entire theory behind Global Warming caused by humans. The University of California at Davis environmental scientist and co-author of the study, Ben Houlton, said, “This runs counter the centuries-long paradigm that has laid the foundation for the environmental sciences.”

Now, pay very close attention to the word “paradigm” which he is using. Clearly, if Houlton’s discovery of a vast storehouse of nitrogen is correct, then it would have an enormous impact on global warming predictions. Why?

Climate scientists have long known that plants offset some of the effects of climate change by absorbing and storing CO2. But climate scientists assumed that the ability for plants to perform this function was limited because the availability of nitrogen in the atmosphere was limited.

A 2003 study published in the same science journal stated, “There will not be enough nitrogen available to sustain the high carbon uptake scenarios.” You see scientists who have NOT been on the payroll for Global Warming understand this is all nonsense. Ronald Amundson, a soil biogeochemist at the University of California at Berkeley, publicly told Chemical and Engineering News that “If there is more nitrogen there than expected, then the constraints on plant growth in a high-CO2 world may not be as great as we think.”

CO2-Cycle-300x200.jpg

Remember high school science class? Remember that with more nitrogen available, then plant life will still grow? And guess what, they absorb more CO2 than climate scientists have been estimating. That means the dire forecasts that we have 12 years to live being championed by AOC and the Democrats are completely inaccurate. The planet won’t warm as much with plant life absorbing the CO2 mankind pumps into the atmosphere.

Nevertheless, because this field of research is not under global warming grants, we should not expect this information to ever make it to the mainstream media.

 

 

That's a great find...will save farmers a ton of money and I no longer need Weed and Feed for my lawn....just Weed and Weed.

  

GO RV, then BV 

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2 hours ago, Shabibilicious said:

 

And I agree with that, but in this case you got it backwards.....the consensus was reached by the direct result of science, not the other way around.  Read the article Indy posted, it's right there.

 

GO RV, then BV

 

Agreed

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3 hours ago, Shabibilicious said:

 

And I agree with that, but in this case you got it backwards.....the consensus was reached by the direct result of science, not the other way around.  Read the article Indy posted, it's right there.

 

GO RV, then BV

The "Science" claimed is NOTHING more than a bunch of computer models. And That is only as good as what you program the computer with. 

Thus, one can manipulate a bunch of details and information to obtain the desired effect. THAT IS NOT SCIENTIFIC.  But it dang sure is the Democratic Socialists Party way, 

HAIL HYDRA :tiphat:

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On 9/3/2019 at 12:13 PM, Shedagal said:

Hey, can you explain why Jesus had to tell the storm to cease?  Wouldn't that be opposing himself?

Shedegal, I just had to come back to this.  In my studies I am reminded of things that God has brought forth for me but in our feeble minds He has to continuously go over them again and again for us to remember.  Your question: explain why Jesus had to tell the storm to cease?  Wouldn't  that be opposing himself?  

 

1st of all we both forgot that Jesus came as fully God and fully man.  When Jesus was as man, He got hungry, cold, sleepy, tired and every other that we experience as men and women.  God is Spirit, God does not feel these human things.  Altho, God and Jesus are one in all attributes Jesus had to depend  and do Gods will on earth to satisfy Gods wrath against sinful mankind.  The Holy Spirit brought forth Gods will for the God-man Jesus just as He does for you and I today.  Jesus had emptied Himself when he came.  His dependance on God was as ours.  Jesus showed us and told  how to pray, how to worship, how to live our lives and how to be saved.  He had to live it to know exactly how our temptations and rebellion can get the best of us.  Altho Jesus was fully God in attributes, He was fully man for our sake and depended upon the same Holy Spirit that raised Him from the dead.  The same Holy Spirit that you and I must depend upon.  God didn't  die on that cross.  The God man, in human form died.  

 

I hope you understand what I'm trying to relate here.  My words and understandings of the magnitude of Gods nature is without question so very frail.  Even when I humbly try with all my soul and mind, I will never be able to understand His greatness or truely be able to worship Him in the way that He is worthy of.  I pray for more understanding and He adds to our knowledge as we stay in His word but we are still so inadequate.  I just know that you love Him and I do too.  Someday both of us will have all the answers.  See ya on the other side!!!!!

 

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