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31 minutes ago, Shabibilicious said:

TDS (trump derangement syndrome) and TWS (trump worship syndrome) are basically the same thing...it's all about Trump, ad nauseam, all day, every day...which is exactly what narcissists like Trump thrive on.  When people actually admit for all to see that they back Trump's every move because Donald drives the left nuts with zero consideration given to right and wrong whatsoever then all is lost.  Sad.

 

GO RV, then 

Your disdain for Trump supporters based solely on your perception of President Trump's moral Foundation is so pathetically hypocritical. You swallow a camel but strain at a gnat. I have read and followed you for 10 years, you feign distaste for the right based on moral equality yet you ignore your own Passions. Your own belief in abortion. Your own support of a party that believes in infanticide. A party that has spent the last hundred years dividing America based on race on Creed on religion. You support a party who believes in stealing from the wealthy and giving to the poor. And you justify that immorality as the right thing to do. You support a party that wants to take away basic human rights, and once they've done that they will make Hitler blush with the blood  they will shed. Never once in 10 years have I read anything from you that has as much distain for the left as you now show for people of conservative beliefs. That's what's sad.

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3 minutes ago, coorslite21 said:

 

Per usual......a pretty fair assessment....who do you see as a Uniter moving into the 2020 cycle?.....

 

Enjoy your week!.....CL

 

Sadly, nobody....I believe there are millions who are so firmly embedded, left and right, that it's impossible for both sides to be happy at the same time.  The ease of social media and therefore suspect sources has devoured intellectual thought and individual responsibility.  As always, just my opinion.   Enjoy your week also, CL.

 

GO RV, then BV 

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5 minutes ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said:

Your disdain for Trump supporters based solely on your perception of President Trump's moral Foundation is so pathetically hypocritical. You swallow a camel but strain at a gnat. I have read and followed you for 10 years, you feign distaste for the right based on moral equality yet you ignore your own Passions. Your own belief in abortion. Your own support system" rel="">support of a party that believes in infanticide. A party that has spent the last hundred years dividing America based on race on Creed on religion. You support system" rel="">support a party who believes in stealing from the wealthy and giving to the poor. And you justify that immorality as the right thing to do. You support system" rel="">support a party that wants to take away basic human rights, and once they've done that they will make Hitler blush with the blood  they will shed. Never once in 10 years have I read anything from you that has as much distain for the left as you now show for people of conservative beliefs. That's what's sad.

 

If to be a conservative is to be all things Trump, then yes....you are correct.  Please keep in mind that my views on abortion and Trump's align perfectly.

 

GO RV, then BV 

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4 hours ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said:

He's off course because his HATRED for Trump is blinding his sence of reality. Those who suffer from TDS have become completely irrational. 

And it's their irrationality that our children will have to pay for. 

 

Hello LGD....Just a simple question if I may......

 

Does caddie ( alleged) hatred for Trump ( I think it's more about his policies than for the man himself....jmho) equal your ( and a ton of others here on DV ) hatred for Socialism ( just the word gets you very  upset seemingly...let alone the concept itself)?

 

Since America is in the world the PRIME EXAMPLE  of DEMOCRACY...Then one day the Socialist party could seriously and effectively be game in nat'l elections and maybe it could even win....It happens in Democracies.....At times win the Conservatives  and at times win the Progressives ( or as you guys call them over there: the Liberals)....That's Democracy......

 

 

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10 minutes ago, umbertino said:

 

Hello LGD....Just a simple question if I may......

 

Does caddie ( alleged) hatred for Trump ( I think it's more about his policies than for the man himself....jmho) equal your ( and a ton of others here on DV ) hatred for Socialism ( just the word gets you very  upset seemingly...let alone the concept itself)?

 

Since America is in the world the PRIME EXAMPLE  of DEMOCRACY...Then one day the Socialist party could seriously and effectively be game in nat'l elections and maybe it could even win....It happens in Democracies.....At times win the Conservatives  and at times win the Progressives ( or as you guys call them over there: the Liberals)....That's Democracy......

 

 

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No, they are not the same. Hatred of Trump is hating a human being. Socialism is a failed governmental philosophy that is responsible for the deaths of hundreds of millions of human beings. So when I hate socialism I am not hating a single person but a philosophy. And yes it does make my blood boil.

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37 minutes ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said:

Keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better.

 

Sorry LGD...But I do not understand why you deem that specific point ( abortion) about Shabbs so strange....It's absolutely possible.....He's against a lot of things concerning Trump's policy but he happens to agree instead on that issue.....

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59 minutes ago, coorslite21 said:

 

 

Who do you see as a Uniter moving into the 2020 cycle?.....

 

Enjoy your week!.....CL

The average Joe  running for presidents who has the balls to say "If elected I don't know what I will get accomplished because neither side will come together and compromise for the good of the people.  What I can say is that I will try to keep America safe, promote fair and equal trade, lower the deficit,  lower education and healthcare cost,  yadda , yadda yadda"   Not one candidate can promise anything as one side or the other will ensure that that promise never comes true.  Divide and conquer is the mantra of the United States government.  Together we can accomplish anything, divided we accomplish nothing. IMO.

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9 minutes ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said:

No, they are not the same. Hatred of Trump is hating a human being. Socialism is a failed governmental philosophy that is responsible for the deaths of hundreds of millions of human beings. So when I hate socialism I am not hating a single person but a philosophy. And yes it does make my blood boil.

 

 

Ok...Thanks for your reply....

 

I take the liberty to disagree though...I again believe many Folks do not hate President Trump personally but just his Policies.......Just the way I hate Italy's Minister of Interiors Salvini  for his fascist and racist policies...I hate his Policies....A whole lot, yes....I don't hate him directly

 

And then I also digrees on some ( not all) things about Socialism you stated....But I'm practical and I realize it makes no sense starting a debate on that  as we'd both keep our positions and convictions and , most importantly, we both are entitled to believe in what we believe  and  to be respected for that.....That's the base of human etiquette ( in Democracy)

 

 

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58 minutes ago, Shabibilicious said:

 

Sadly, nobody....I believe there are millions who are so firmly embedded, left and right, that it's impossible for both sides to be happy at the same time.  The ease of social media and therefore suspect sources has devoured intellectual thought and individual responsibility.  As always, just my opinion.   Enjoy your week also, CL.

 

GO RV, then BV 

Yep!  100% agree!

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3 hours ago, cranman said:

The average Joe  running for presidents who has the balls to say "If elected I don't know what I will get accomplished because neither side will come together and compromise for the good of the people.  What I can say is that I will try to keep America safe, promote fair and equal trade, lower the deficit,  lower education and healthcare cost,  yadda , yadda yadda"   Not one candidate can promise anything as one side or the other will ensure that that promise never comes true.  Divide and conquer is the mantra of the United States government.  Together we can accomplish anything, divided we accomplish nothing. IMO.

 

A rather pessimistic....yet realistic view.....but sooner or later some one.....some force....has to step forward and say enough is enough.....and if it takes getting that person into office....and voting all the freeloaders out....that would be fine by me....right now both party's are a detriment to the country!.....

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4 hours ago, cranman said:

The average Joe  running for presidents who has the balls to say "If elected I don't know what I will get accomplished because neither side will come together and compromise for the good of the people.  What I can say is that I will try to keep America safe, promote fair and equal trade, lower the deficit,  lower education and healthcare cost,  yadda , yadda yadda"   Not one candidate can promise anything as one side or the other will ensure that that promise never comes true.  Divide and conquer is the mantra of the United States government.  Together we can accomplish anything, divided we accomplish nothing. IMO.

 

Hello cranman.....You're of course very correct  ( I can't say " right" as the adjective might be misunderstood and manipulated somehow) in your post above....It describes much what most politicians state and promise in most Countries of the world actually.

 

"What I can say is that I will try to keep (name of Country) safe, promote fair and equal trade, lower the deficit,  lower education and healthcare cost,  yadda , yadda yadda......Plus..." I/ We will try  to reduce / limit / possibly eliminate the level of racism which is dangerously mounting, try to eliminate the most obvious acts of injustice, gap between too rich and too poor people leading to more inequalities, etc etc etc....."

 

You say very wisely in the end what the ancient Romans used to say ...."Together we can accomplish anything, divided we accomplish nothing"

 

Point being that in a "normal" let's say Country ( not a dictatorship, I mean).....It's very difficult to get together the right-wing parties and the left-wing parties let alone the far-right and the far-left parties....So that's another problem to solve ( always trying to remain in the tracks of Democracy)

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19 hours ago, TinBadge said:

There is a scary number of young people today that don’t really understand the term Socialism. They think free healthcare and college sounds awesome. They don’t understand that they “are” going to pay for it.   I’ve talked to a few of these people. Most of them that I’ve talked to don’t vote but I’m sure by the time they get into their 30s they will be voting.  And let’s not forget - having kids!  So here’s a though. How will they ( millennials ) raise their children!!?? Socialism is maybe 2 or 3 generations away......

 

 

With all the due respect.....It all depends on the Will of the People which is decided usually in the elections ( granted they're not manipulated, somehow changed etc)...If regular elections decide whatever ( the Will of the voters)....Then that will be.....That's Democracy.....

 

Just like someone said here " like it or not President Trump is your president....Simply get used to it"....Ok.....Same might be said one day with a Socialist President......

 

Again...It will be decided by the People....

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Just now, umbertino said:

 

If most  voting Americans want Trump again and they are going to vote for him and he gets a 2nd mandate....Fantastic.....It means that People's will got respected the way it should....Which is what really counts in any democracy.......Of course

 

A rational person such as yourself would believe that to be the case umbertino.....The problem is, when Republicans win they gloat of their greatness in winning a fair election......when Democrats win, Republicans whine and claim voter fraud.  

 

GO RV, then BV     

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7 minutes ago, umbertino said:

 

If most  voting Americans want Trump again and they are going to vote for him and he gets a 2nd mandate....Fantastic.....It means that People's will got respected the way it should....Which is what really counts in any democracy.......Of course

 

Actual billboard from the evangelical American heartland......Trump Worship Syndrome at it's finest.

 

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GO RV, then BV

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