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Also, to all those that have a better way and want something that has never worked out anywhere before. To all those that believe taking all the guns away would make this world a safer place....

 

Go figure the Trump Supporters, those that are just Conservative and don't support anyone platform those Red Neck Good Olde Boys that had their Flags and Monuments removed or banned......I will guess Collectively we all have around 8-10 Trillion Rounds or Ammo. Then giving say everyone owns at least 3-4 firearms if not more........If us Trumps Supporters, Us Red Necks, Us White Whats ever you all want to Label us were so damn bad ass.....Do you really think there would be any Liberals left.

 

Better think about that one before you all reply.

 

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Just a few things to consider about active killer events...

 

1. It's never fireworks, when you hear something that sounds like GUNFIRE it is GUNFIRE, so CARRY YOUR DAMN GUN EVERYWHERE YOU ARE LEGALLY ALLOWED TO BY LAW.

 

2. Carry spare ammunition, "I have never heard anyone complain about having too much ammo in a fight." - Quoted from Clint Smith, Thunder Ranch

 

3. Nobody is coming to save you, you are your own first responder. Twenty people died in less than six minutes. Six minutes, that was the response time in El Paso, Texas yesterday and in one minute in Dayton, Ohio another nine people were killed by another active killer.

 

4. Know where your loved ones are at all times, your wife, your kids, everyone and know where you are going to meet if you get seperated. Where are the exits, emergency or otherwise. Know what can be used as cover and concealment and your loved ones have to know this as well, so teach them.

 

5. Are you carrying any medical equipment, a tourniquet, pressure bandages, etc... and do you have the training to use it?

 

6. Have a plan and work the plan, tell your loved ones the reasons why you have a plan is to stay alive, don't let anyone or anything deter you in escaping the active killer, but if the active killer presents themselves to you then you must be resolute in your decisions to deal with them and do so with the judicious use of precision marksmanship.

 

Again, NOBODY is coming to save you, it is you who must save yourself and those you are responsible for, it is up to you.

 

I would advise everyone to seek out CERT Training or a Class....It is Free and it will open your eyes to just what can happen in case of some event.

 

Karsten

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1 hour ago, Karsten said:

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Just a few things to consider about active killer events...

 

1. It's never fireworks, when you hear something that sounds like GUNFIRE it is GUNFIRE, so CARRY YOUR DAMN GUN EVERYWHERE YOU ARE LEGALLY ALLOWED TO BY LAW.

 

2. Carry spare ammunition, "I have never heard anyone complain about having too much ammo in a fight." - Quoted from Clint Smith, Thunder Ranch

 

3. Nobody is coming to save you, you are your own first responder. Twenty people died in less than six minutes. Six minutes, that was the response time in El Paso, Texas yesterday and in one minute in Dayton, Ohio another nine people were killed by another active killer.

 

4. Know where your loved ones are at all times, your wife, your kids, everyone and know where you are going to meet if you get seperated. Where are the exits, emergency or otherwise. Know what can be used as cover and concealment and your loved ones have to know this as well, so teach them.

 

5. Are you carrying any medical equipment, a tourniquet, pressure bandages, etc... and do you have the training to use it?

 

6. Have a plan and work the plan, tell your loved ones the reasons why you have a plan is to stay alive, don't let anyone or anything deter you in escaping the active killer, but if the active killer presents themselves to you then you must be resolute in your decisions to deal with them and do so with the judicious use of precision marksmanship.

 

Again, NOBODY is coming to save you, it is you who must save yourself and those you are responsible for, it is up to you.

 

I would advise everyone to seek out CERT Training or a Class....It is Free and it will open your eyes to just what can happen in case of some event.

 

Karsten

Good response and you are correct. 

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As a Texan, I carry my pistol everywhere I go! We are an open carry State! It is now legal for us to carry tomahawks and swords 🗡! I carry both in my truck wherever I go! I carry a Bowie knife on my belt at all times! I do have a plan and a plan to act! It will be a bad day for one of these subversives if they try to pull this around me! I refuse to be taking out by one these DemoRat, communist ,socialist thugs! Even if you are un armed you must attack these subversives rather than run and be shot in the back! These punks are cowards! My advice always be vigilant to your surroundings and when you hear gun fire react immediately do not disregard the sound as fireworks! Always know where your exits are in your stores you shop. Most emergency exits are posted on floor plans at the entrance of the business you are shopping in! Take moment and review them if you shop there on regular basis! We have a lot of foreign subversives here in Texas now! I witnessed them in 2016 when I attended a Rally, that President Trump had in Fort Worth that year! There was a long line on the sidewalk to get in to see President Trump, these subversives were in cars and trucks circling the street with foreign flags flying from their vehicles, and  were shouting obscenities and making obscene hand jesters to all the people that were in the line!  I immediately got out of the line and took a defensive position and then proceeded back to my truck and didn’t attend the rally! I have never seen the Ft Worth PD react to a group like that before! They were in a defensive type formation instead of a offensive position! They should have been making arrests, of these foreign subversives that were shouting the obscenities ,they were told to stand down by their then chief of police! I know this from my friends that are police officers that was working the rally Security! We have all see this type policing now in other big cities! We also know now that Clinton was paying  these thugs to go and start trouble at President Trump rallies that year! In fact there were other issues I witnessed on the way back to my truck! One other thing, that happened that no good despicable miserable human being beetow was there stirring up trouble too, I just didn’t know who he was at the time! He is a major subversive and mentally unstable lying trouble maker! Bottom line keep a vigilant eye on your surroundings, have a plan and a plan to act! JMHO! We are living in very dangerous times! Our only Hope is That our Good Lord Jesus is in complete control of this situation! Which I know he is! :salute:ps praying for complete healing for our injured Texans in El Paso Texas!

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10 hours ago, bostonangler said:

 

They )the Democrats) cut budgets to help Americans. Republicans cut corporate taxes to help Americans. Does anyone believe any of them? We are spending money on weapons we don't need. We are giving money to countries around the world. We are giving welfare to corporations. We spend money researching if frogs have webbed feet... The democrats want to get rid of guns, as if that would stop the whackos from getting them. The republicans think people should be able to own any gun they want, as if that is a right provided by our founding fathers. Bottom line nothing is going to change. The latest tragedy has brought the usual responses. All day I've seen people posting social media sewerage. I've seen people claiming this is some government plan. I've people on all sides pointing fingers at each other, but I don't see people having meaningful discussion about what is wrong with America. 

Everyone wants to turn it into a conspiracy theory... 

 

 

 

B/A

This may come as a shock to you but I agree on everything that you've expounded on. And like someone else did here I would go 

further into welfare in general too. As I've repeatedly stated to you this is not going to get better, we are in the end game now and 

the earth will be filled with violence. It was foretold thousands of years ago. All we can do is make our peace with God. 

 

 

8 hours ago, umbertino said:

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Disliking someone's post is NOT HATE. I dislike allot of what you post but I most certainly don't hate you. Stop being so sensitive about people not liking what you post. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. And some show it by giving rubies. 

Arguing about that is truly childish.  

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Hello LGD...Sorry..I should have specified more clearly that I was referring to my personal case  with that unknown negger stalker  ( on the off-topic thread, therefore non-political articles)

There is a member here that isn't allowed to post anymore for lack of respect to others and for some  reason that member comes by and gives 

me his rubies everyday. Perhaps he thinks that I'm the reason he's not allowed to post {I'm not} I don't know but he gives them to me without 

question daily. And I could care less. I think it a little thing and not really worth my time. All I'm saying is don't take it personally. It's just another 

way of expressing oneself.

 

 

8 hours ago, cranman said:

Mental disabilities.  Not illness.

Sorry my bad, I stand corrected

 

 

8 hours ago, cranman said:

I'm sure God thinks we're all insane.  He probably shakes his head on a daily basis and really reconsiders the flood all over again.

Not flood, Fire. And much sooner that we all wish to believe

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This is for 

EVERY SINGLE POSTER 

in this thread

As I'm reading this morning waking up for work, I am shocked at what I'm seeing.

A subject like this can and always will be one of extreme emotion, but what I'm seeing is only a 

microcosm of our current state of society

We've all been members here for many years and have to one degree or another developed friendships over time.

But what is happening in this thread is nothing more than a deterioration of the very fabric of those 

friendships. 

First let me apologize to @Shabibilicious and any others that were offended, for my own rudeness and lack of 

kindness shown in this thread. There is no excuse for that kind of behavior and I am DEEPLY sorry that 

I allowed my own emotions to take control of my better conscience. I've considered Shabbs for a long time

to be not only a dear friend but something of a brother. 

Having said that, people we are all allowing our emotions to overrule our minds ability to 

be respectful and decent to each other in this thread. 

Something tells me that this is what such events like those of this last weekend are supposed to do.

But we know each other better than this.

I'm not saying that we must like and accept the views and opinions of everyone, 

that is impossible.

But we know each and everyone here intimately, We know from whence they are coming with there

comments. Whatever they may be. 

And we have ALWAYS, for the most part, been respectful of others thoughts and opinions whether or not we agreed. 

This seems to have been lost in this thread.

So I'm asking everyone to tone it down a notch and remember who we are.

A group of internet friends that hope someday to be rich with the 

$1.13 RV of the Iraqi Dinar.:lol:

No one here is the ENEMY.

Again I wish to apologize to all for my own lack of good behavior in this emotional thread. 

Let us get back to debating the events of this last weekend 

but let us NEVER forget to do so with great respect for each other, 

FOR OUR FRIENDS

That in all reality we hope to party with post RV.

Your Friend 

Santa

ladyGrace'sDaddy

 

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22 hours ago, bostonangler said:

 

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This does nothing but promote them... It doesn't matter who or what they are, you put them out there and they love it and other whackos think this is going to make them famous if they do something sick...

 

B/A

I've been thinking about this all morning. And something with these entire tragic events just doesn't add up. What if the garlic shooter and the El Paso shooter and the Dayton shooter really were the same person. Take another look at the three pictures above that the media claims to be three separate shooters. If you ask me it's the same guy, now consider this

 

 It has been confirm that the Ohio shooter has been dead since 2014. What if these three shootings are a psyop. I'm not suggesting that nobody died, clearly there are deaths this time. I'm suggesting that it seems possible these events are a governmental deep state psyop Design to invoke an emotion from the American populace.

Sounds crazy and a full-blown conspiracy theory, I know. But how do you explain the Striking resemblance between the three shooters? How do you explain that at all three events people report seeing armed men wearing black carrying assault rifles?

 

How do you explain the Broward County Sheriff's Department standing down during a school shooting?

 

And  if these events are some kind of psyop what was the purpose? It seems the answer to that can be found in the media narrative. The cries of white nationalism, a white racism are only escalating with each and every passing day. It seems that the goal is to get Americans to turn on each other and physically attack each other in an all out War. 

But what purpose could that serve? We all know that the world powers that be want to create some form of a One World Government. I submit that the only thing standing in their way is a free America. They have done  everything they can to bring America down to no avail. However, if they could create such unrest that we are attacking each other in the streets then the people in charge can declare martial law and Destroy America completely.

If you think that is a far-fetched plan, think again. There are approximately 150 to 160 million people in this country who consider themselves right-of-center. These people consider themselves constitutionalist conservatives and freethinkers. These people stand in the way of  making the one world government. However, through martial law these people can be eliminated. And if you think that is far-fetched you might want to study history. Stallin murdered over 20 million of his own citizens. Hitler murdered 6 1/2 million Jews. I don't think anyone can count how many people the government of China has murdered to date. 

It is the natural History of humankind that governments murder it's on citizens. Wake up people for the possibility GREATLY exist that we are being played. Which is all the more reason we need to get along, we need to calm down, we need to do the opposite of what they want us to do, we need to love one another. We need to forget race, we need to forget political affiliation, we need to let go of hate, we need to stand strong, we need to stand firm, and most importantly of all we need to stand United.

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However, their are MANY different levels of mental illness

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Agreed, LGD.....Millions if not Billions of People in the world have gone through depression which has several stages infact....Most of us, I presume, had at last gone through stage 1 or 2.....Most of those in the "civilized "world ( N. America & Europe plus other rich countries in Asia) ...It'd seem that People living real difficult and tough daily situations cannot afford that "luxury" of falling into depression......

 

 

Some would consider that a form of mental illness...I do  agree with that....Esp when it reaches the highest levels...I sincerely don't know as I'm no expert ...I have suffered of low forms of depression myself in the past but  got out of it fast enough, thank God and thanks to medicines

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12 hours ago, cranman said:

I'm sure God thinks we're all insane.  He probably shakes his head on a daily basis and really reconsiders the flood all over again.

 

Probably so, cranman....And maybe HE thinks we're very arrogant  as we believe  we're right most of the time in our convictions ( I wrote "we", mind you)  and then we keep sinning with arrogance...All of us....Right, left and center .....Maybe , I said.....

 

 

Time and wisdom will tell one day.....

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12 hours ago, coorslite21 said:

I must be very blessed on this site.....I'll bet I have given out 50 or 60 purple cups in one sitting without running out.....the idea is we are all here to exchange ideas, and thoughts....and as we don't always agree with one another....it is a matter of respect and a thank you for the poster who took the time to express a thought.....to award that purple cup......if a post goes dirty and low....I have given a few reds......but I don't believe I've ever hit a limit....

 

That was the concept behind the Trump and Obama threads......air it out....but be thankful we all have that right to do it......USA and DV

CL

 

 

 

Thanks CL...Awesome post....Sorry, only read it now.....Congrats on the clarity ( and justness) of your thought

 

As you know some do not ( and never will) agree with what you so aptly stated....They're  the ones who'll end up missing anyway...Most (not all) of them are on a specific side of the political fence

 

Sorry...Out of pluses....

 

Again Thanks for your enlighting post....much apppreciated

 

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25 minutes ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said:

Sounds crazy and a full-blown conspiracy theory, I know.

 

LGD, What a wingnut you are ! :blink:  :lmao::lmao:   Just kiddin with ya! LGD, I love you like a brother and your post above was spot on! I know I get heated around the collar when I see the Constitution being or attempted to be shredded.

 

How do you explain that at all three events people report seeing armed men wearing black carrying assault rifles?

 

You know, where there is smoke there is usually fire. You can go all the way back to Sandy Hook and there was one to two reported shooters, wearing all black, that ran into the woods. I know some LE in El Paso and there are a lot of things that have not come out and they may not, I don't know. Even a lay person should be able to see something is not right with the El Paso incident if they do a little digging on this subject.

 

 The cries of white nationalism, a white racism are only escalating with each and every passing day.

 

You are right about that. One State representative here in Texas is now calling for a special session to investigate this.

 

It seems that the goal is to get Americans to turn on each other and physically attack each other in an all out War. 

 

I could not agree more. I thought this might be the goal during all the black lives matter stuff going on, then it kinda died down and now, what do you hear about it? Now, since that didn't work, its white nationalism and racism. Everything you do and say against someone is being labeled as racist. Hell, I could fart in the wind and be called a racist for it if someone was downwind of me. It seems to me that the goal is to get some kind of race war started. I do know it all needs to stop!

 

But what purpose could that serve? We all know that the world powers that be want to create some form of a One World Government.

 

We know that is the goal and will happen one day when the antichrist takes a seat on the throne. I guess you could say this is the pre-game show.

 

I submit that the only thing standing in their way is a free America.

 

ABSOLUTELY 100% AMEN!!!! No other country in the world has what we have here in this GREAT NATION of OURS! So many countries out there are jealous of us, despise us and have just a pure hate for us. They would love nothing more than to see us fall on our face. The ONLY way for that to happen is to destroy us from within, because they would never be able to invade and set foot on our soil if we didn't tear ourselves up first. Japanese Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto said it best; "You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass." And that may be what they want to get rid of. :shrug:   That is why they want to get us in these UN gun treaties and such. They want to force us one way or another to limit our weapons in this country. It will make the take over that much easier for them.

 

They have done  everything they can to bring America down to no avail. However, if they could create such unrest that we are attacking each other in the streets then the people in charge can declare martial law and Destroy America completely.

 

Adding to what I said above, This can probably be traced back to one person..George Soros. It would not surprise me if he does not have a hand in it some way. I personally do not see how it will all end peacefully. I would love for it too, but do not see how. Sometimes my military mind and thinking takes over and I say strike now, strike hard and strike fast. Take them out now before it is too late and it gets prolonged. Get peace and stability back in place. I know that's not the answer now and that is what they want. However, the question is, how long will we wait to save our beloved UNITED STATES of AMERICA?

 

 

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7 minutes ago, 8th ID said:

There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass." And that may be what they want to get rid of.

It would be easier to eliminate the 160 million people who don't think like them. 

 

7 minutes ago, 8th ID said:

George Soros. It would not surprise me if he does not have a hand in it some way

It would surprise the heck out of me if he didn't. 

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10 minutes ago, 8th ID said:

However, the question is, how long will we wait to save our beloved UNITED STATES of AMERICA?

Now is the end game. This nation has the blood of 60 million innocent babies on its hands, the world is filling up with violence. What we need to do now as Brothers and Sisters in Christ is to know our faith. And pray with everything you've got. Only God can save America, only if America turns its back on the heinous sin of abortion.

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I refuse to be taking out by one these DemoRat, communist ,socialist thugs!

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Hello Artitech...First of all ( in case you doubt it...)...I fully respect  your total right to bear arms at all times and everywhere...Obviously so......Ok, we got rid of that one...

 

Now....Regarding your statement I quoted....With all the due respect ...How can you be  so sure ( at least so it sounds to me, maybe I'm wrong in my assumption) that those potential attackers ( God Forbid it'd ever happen anything to you) could only be  as you say "DemoRat, communist ,socialist thugs".?..

 

What if they maybe happen to be ( for whatever reason, who knows...Maybe you might get caught incidentally in a sort of clash where everybody hits everybody else.....) White Supremacists  or just plain simple extreme right-wing  and maybe even fascists? Would your reaction change somehow?  From what you wrote it seems that you are completely sure you could only be attacked by those you described above ( again, maybe I misunderstood, in which case I do apologize)

 

 

Thanks in advance for your kind reply

 

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, umbertino said:

How can you be  so sure ( at least so it sounds to me, maybe I'm wrong in my assumption) that those potential attackers ( God Forbid it'd ever happen anything to you) could only be  as you say "DemoRat, communist ,socialist thugs".?

If you go back and look at the the shooters for the last few years...even ten years or so, you will find out that probably 80-90% will fall into one of two categories, an islamic terrorist or someone registered or associated with the demonrat party.

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I don’t know one person who considers themselves a White Nationalist, a Right Winger, a Facisist, or even a Racist.  I believe ithese terms are being used to inflame people and make America more divided.  I believe that is your agenda.  You are an agitator, a race baiter, and a divider of people.  Oh, you are real smooth but that’s what you are and I have now put you on ignore along with a few of your buddies.  

 

 

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, Pitcher said:

I don’t know one person who considers themselves a White Nationalist, a Right Winger, a Facisist, or even a Racist.  I believe ithese terms are being used to inflame people and make America more divided.  I believe that is your agenda.  You are an agitator, a race baiter, and a divider of people.  Oh, you are real smooth but that’s what you are and I have now put you on ignore along with a few of your buddies.  

 

 

 

 

Are you talking to me ? All I'm doing is showing whatis being said. I most certainly don't believe the crap. And you clearly didn't read my earlier post asking every member here to get along. 

On 8/6/2019 at 4:19 AM, ladyGrace'sDaddy said:

This is for 

EVERY SINGLE POSTER 

in this thread

As I'm reading this morning waking up for work, I am shocked at what I'm seeing.

A subject like this can and always will be one of extreme emotion, but what I'm seeing is only a 

microcosm of our current state of society

We've all been members here for many years and have to one degree or another developed friendships over time.

But what is happening in this thread is nothing more than a deterioration of the very fabric of those 

friendships. 

First let me apologize to @Shabibilicious and any others that were offended, for my own rudeness and lack of 

kindness shown in this thread. There is no excuse for that kind of behavior and I am DEEPLY sorry that 

I allowed my own emotions to take control of my better conscience. I've considered Shabbs for a long time

to be not only a dear friend but something of a brother. 

Having said that, people we are all allowing our emotions to overrule our minds ability to 

be respectful and decent to each other in this thread. 

Something tells me that this is what such events like those of this last weekend are supposed to do.

But we know each other better than this.

I'm not saying that we must like and accept the views and opinions of everyone, 

that is impossible.

But we know each and everyone here intimately, We know from whence they are coming with there

comments. Whatever they may be. 

And we have ALWAYS, for the most part, been respectful of others thoughts and opinions whether or not we agreed. 

This seems to have been lost in this thread.

So I'm asking everyone to tone it down a notch and remember who we are.

A group of internet friends that hope someday to be rich with the 

$1.13 RV of the Iraqi Dinar.:lol:

No one here is the ENEMY.

Again I wish to apologize to all for my own lack of good behavior in this emotional thread. 

Let us get back to debating the events of this last weekend 

but let us NEVER forget to do so with great respect for each other, 

FOR OUR FRIENDS

That in all reality we hope to party with post RV.

Your Friend 

Santa

ladyGrace'sDaddy

 

 

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Haha, I love you man. A tough as nails Marine.  

 

I believe the people that that are throwing the terms listed in my above post know who they are and I do not  wish to participate anymore with the agitators, race baiters, and divider of men.  

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