Mass Shooting at an EL Paso Wal Mart

[MyLadiesDaddy]

3 hours ago, Synopsis said:

 

 !!!LadyGrace'sDaddy!!! 

 

Please accept my SINCERE APOLOGIES for NOT CURRENTLY being able to RIGHTLY AWARD You THEE HIGHLY DESERVED purple trophies AND emeralds FOR Your CONTINUED SERVICE To Our Country AS A True The United States Of America Patriot IN FULL HONOR AND VALOR!!!

 

            

 

For NOW, please accept

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Unfortunately, I have experienced the fall out of the Dr. Spock "poster" "children" "products" in my siblings AND extended family AND have seen the generational consequences OF THOSE Dr. Spock "poster" "children" "products" BECAUSE THEY WERE LIED TO AND LED TO BELIEVE THEY COULD DO NO WRONG AS LONG AS THEY HONESTLY EXPRESS THEMSELVES NO MATTER HOW "petty", "petulant", "self" "serving", VULGAR, AND SOCIALLY DESTRUCTIVE THEIR BEHAVIORS ARE TO THEMSELVES AND OTHERS!!!

 

Fortunately, I have seen the exceptional value AND potency of the four (4) Textual Cornerstones WITH THE PERSONAL AND SOCIETAL UNIVERSAL APPLICATION THEREOF to COMPLETELY overcome the Dr. Spock "poster" "children". ALL with the influence of God The Holy Spirit BASED ON AND SUBSEQUENT TO the receiving of the gift of salvation through NONE OTHER THAN God The Son Jesus Christ BECAUSE OF the Atoning Sacrifice AND Shed Blood Of God The Son Jesus Christ AS THE ONLY Atonement FOR Sin AND Means Of Salvation FROM eternal separation FROM God The Father, God The Son Jesus Christ, AND God The Holy Spirit WITH THE LIKEWISE Redeemed Children Of THEE Triune God.

 

The Battle Hymn Of The Republic REFLECTS the attitude AND disposition of True The United States Of America Patriots WITHOUT REGARD TO RACE THAT THE Race Baiting Dr. Spock "poster" "children" "useful" "idiots" ARE USING TO ATTEMPT TO DIVIDE AND PIT RACES AGAINST ONE ANOTHER.

 

True The United States Of America Patriots REGARDLESS OF RACE WILL NOT LET THE Dr. Spock "poster" "children" "useful" "idiots" DIVIDE THEE True The United States Of America Patriots AS True The United States Of America Patriots STAND TOGETHER REGARDLESS OF RACE!!!

Right you are again. I've decided to give them as little attention as is necessary. It's become very clear that their only goal is to derail every thread in the political arena in their efforts to silence the truth. Just look at what they are doing here. 

 

 

2 hours ago, DinarDavo said:

 

No one seems to want to address the fact that Noah and his family were the only Republicans on earth at that time... justy say'n.

But that wouldn't fit the Democratic Socialists Party Machiavellian narrative.

 

 

2 hours ago, umbertino said:

 

I somehow deem it fascinating  ( very seriously) seeing you name Machiavelli.....Awesome

 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niccolò_Machiavelli

You posted that link as if to suggest I do not understand the use of the word. Or maybe you wanted to suggest you approve of Machiavellian Behavior. This comes from your very own link

 

Machiavellian is widely used as a pejorative to characterize unscrupulous politicians of the sort Machiavelli described most famously in The Prince. Machiavelli described immoral behavior, such as dishonesty and the killing of innocents, as being normal and effective in politics.^[8] He even encouraged it in many situations.^[9][10] The book gained notoriety due to claims that it teaches "evil recommendations to tyrants to help them maintain their power

 

 

1 hour ago, cranman said:

I agree  whole heartedly.  That's what makes some of these  threads amusing. Each side saying there party is better. In the end everyone is defending people who don't  compromise  and constantly divide us. You are doing  their work for them.  What's even worse, in this instance,  we try to assign a party to those who commit these atrocities as if they are the sole representative of any party.  It's really quite amusing and not in a good way.

I make no attempt to put either one of these monsters into any political party. I thought I used news articles and other post here to show that one political party is driving people to the point of Madness followed by insanity. It is also my belief that the Democratic Socialist Party does this with extreme intent in order to achieve their goals of destroying America.

[Shabibilicious]

Hmmm....is serial negging considered doing the Lord's work?  

 

GO RV, then BV

Edited August 5, 2019 by Shabibilicious

[MyLadiesDaddy]

5 minutes ago, Shabibilicious said:

Hmmm....is serial negging considered doing the Lord's work?  

 

GO RV, then BV

 Like you I get 5 negs a day to pass out in show of my disdain for a post. If showing disapproval is somehow to you committing a sin then that is on you, not me. As I have said before suck it up buttercup.

Truth be told I don't think you realize how many people you upset

[Shabibilicious]

4 minutes ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said:

 Like you I get 5 negs a day to pass out in show of my disdain for a post. If showing disapproval is somehow to you committing a sin then that is on you, not me. As I have said before suck it up buttercup.

Truth be told I don't think you realize how many people you upset

 

Too bad they don't want to talk it out.....minds are never changed anyway, no harm in discussing the topics at hand.  As always, just my very unpopular opinion.  

 

GO RV, then BV

[MyLadiesDaddy]

I just decided to attempt to explain to you the issue here. I have no problem with the fact that you and I differ in political opinion. For example I can carry on a decent and intelligent conversation with both B/A and Umbertino. And they both lean toward your political persuasion. The difference in debating them as opposed to debating you is they are trying to listen and learn and they are trying to persuade others to their side. 

Whereas you do not. You twist words, and badger posters. You're not interested in the other side's thoughts nor are you interested in bringing anyone into your thought process. Your post are solely for the purpose of badgering belittling and derailing a thread. That is why I will refrain from responding to you as much as possible. I much rather enjoy intellectual debate and conversation even if the outcome is not in my favor

[8th ID]

34 minutes ago, Shabibilicious said:

 

Then it should make sense to keep weapons from them as much as it does to institutionalize them, don't you think?

 

GO RV, then BV

 

27 minutes ago, nstoolman1 said:

No. It makes more sense to lock them up SO THEY CAN'T GET ACCESS TO THEM. 

Then people want to restrict law abiding citizens access to the tools needed for protecting themselves.

My answer to that is not only no but Hell no. I will kill anyone who attempts to harm me or mine.

To harsh? Too bad. 

nstoolman said it exactly. Like I said, if a person cannot function normally in society then they need to be locked up.

[MyLadiesDaddy]

I wish to add one thing further, I myself have had to work a great deal at composing my commentaries in a manner that is better suitable for everyone. My bad quality in posting is that I can be too blunt and quite rude at times. These bad traits were made known to me and I intentionally went to work to fix them as best I can. Whereas you refuse to even acknowledge that anything you do is wrong.

[Shabibilicious]

3 minutes ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said:

I just decided to attempt to explain to you the issue here. I have no problem with the fact that you and I differ in political opinion. For example I can carry on a decent and intelligent conversation with both B/A and Umbertino. And they both lean toward your political persuasion. The difference in debating them as opposed to debating you is they are trying to listen and learn and they are trying to persuade others to their side. 

Whereas you do not. You twist words, and badger posters. You're not interested in the other side's thoughts nor are you interested in bringing anyone into your thought process. Your post are solely for the purpose of badgering belittling and derailing a thread. That is why I will refrain from responding to you as much as possible. I much rather enjoy intellectual debate and conversation even if the outcome is not in my favor

 

I will take it under advisement.  Thank you for the response.  

 

GO RV, then BV

[Shabibilicious]

1 minute ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said:

I wish to add one thing further, I myself have had to work a great deal at composing my commentaries in a manner that is better suitable for everyone. My bad quality in posting is that I can be too blunt and quite rude at times. These bad traits were made known to me and I intentionally went to work to fix them as best I can. Whereas you refuse to even acknowledge that anything you do is wrong.

 

It's never my intention to make another person feel inferior.....I apologize to anybody I may have made feel that way.  

 

GO RV, then BV

[Synopsis]

18 minutes ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said:

Right you are again. I've decided to give them as little attention as is necessary. It's become very clear that their only goal is to derail every thread in the political arena in their efforts to silence the truth. Just look at what they are doing here. 

 

 !!!LadyGrace'sDaddy!!! 

 

 Spot ON!!!, LadyGrace'sDaddy, AND ALL The Very Best!!! 

 

THEE Dr. Spock "poster" "children" "useful" "idiots" "act" "out" INAPPROPRIATELY, of course, ALL TO BE THEE "center" OF "attention". RESTRAINED NECESSARY AND APPROPRIATE FORMATIVE YEARS Corporal Punishment HAS DONE THEM AND EVERYONE A GREAT DISSERVICE!!!

 

Life is NOT ALL ABOUT THEE Dr. Spock "poster" " children" "useful" "idiots", of course!!!

 

Unimaginable THEIR "cognition" IS INEXTRICABLE FROM THEIR "safe" "space" SO THEY COULD WALK UPRIGHTLY IN A "self" "unrestrained" AND COMFORTABLE MANNER!!!

 

THEE COMMON TACTIC OF THEE Dr. Spock "poster" "children" "useful" "idiots" IS TO THREATEN AND UTILIZE INAPPROPRIATE, BASELESS, SENSELESS, INDECENT AND VULGAR BEHAVIOR IN AN ATTEMPT TO SILENCE Reason AND Common Sense AND Decency.

[bigwave]

El Paso Walmart shooting witnesses saw ‘three to four armed men running in… dressed in all black… shooting’

Major cover-up underway? Why are mainstream sources and officials reporting only one shooter when eyewitnesses claim that they saw 3 to 4 armed men dressed in all black enter the store and start shooting?

(INTELLIHUB) — Twenty people were killed at a Walmart in El Paso Texas on Saturday reportedly by the hands of a single suspected gunman who was identified by various news sources as Patrick Crusius, 21, of Allen, Texas. However, information received by Intellihubmay tell a different story.

Remarkably, several eyewitnesses to the shooting, a mother and her daughter, were captured on video recounting how three men dressed in all black entered through the front doors of the store as the shooting started.

“That’s when my mom is like ‘no it is actually shooting’ and she saw three men went in and they were all dressed in black,” a young girl named Britney explained. “…that’s when my mom said ‘drop down, go down to the floor.'”

Britney admits that neither she nor her mom actually saw anyone shot or wounded but said the three men were, in fact, holding guns and acknowledged the men were shooting.

“I did not see their faces,” she explained. “I saw them dressed in all black… and they were the ones shooting because I could see their weapons and the bullets firing.”

Additionally, it is important to point out that El Paso Mayor Dee Margo originally told CNN’s Wolf Blitzer early on after the shooting that three suspects were taken into custody.

Not to mention, an image taken from security camera footage reveals a shooter who entered the store may have been wearing different pants than the suspect apprehended by police who was pictured in handcuffs.

A Tweet by Twitter user @DeepStateExpose reads:

Walmart surveillance footage shows shooter with ‘cargo pants’.

Person arrested – cargo pants, NEGATIVE.

https://www.intellihub.com/walmart-shooting-witnesses-saw-three-to-four-armed-men-running-in-dressed-in-all-black-shooting/

[bigwave]

 

[bigwave]

 

[bigwave]

"All dressed in black with masks........."

[Karsten]

Just now, bigwave said:

"All dressed in black with masks........."

 

Antifa had made plans to do something violent in El Paso to bring attention to the treatment of Illegals at the Border. I also read earlier today that the 21 year old shooter was somehow connected or affiliated with Antifa....I will see if I can find it again. 

 

Then I see a lot of posts about keeps people locked away as was the standard practice for years to keep the public safe. But Democrats did away with that years ago and close all the institutions.

 

Then I see the Need for extended Background Checks and those are already in place but again the democrats wont allow Mental Health Record to be submitted to the FBI and NCIS due to Privacy Issues so it is a Catch 22.......Sure it is a felony to lie on the  ATF Form 4473 but there have been very few cases that were every prosecuted and most all walk free.

 

https://www.google.com/search?q=Firearms+background+check+form&client=firefox-b-1-d&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=wl4A6EO27N5s3M%3A%2C9j53wNkbsWDohM%2C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kR856SuP_EyvsIR6Um6ZsA8Zb3ZGw&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjLhuGGx-zjAhUUuZ4KHabOCjoQ9QEwBnoECAMQDw#imgrc=wl4A6EO27N5s3M:

 

So anyone that wants to lie knows that they most likely wont to caught because they Mental Health Records might as well be sealed with all of obama's past.

 

Even if they didn't want to risk it there are plenty of other ways to get a firearm....Adam Lanza stole his mothers gun, The Gilroy shooter went to Nevada as he was under age in CA (note the Gilroy Shooter was also a Syrian Muslim with a hate issue).

 

Taking guns away from Law abiding citizens is not the answer....Enforcing the Laws that are already on the books to a Higher Standard will save lives and keep firearms out of the hands of Criminals or those with Issues that should never have one to start.

 

Just like Enforcing the laws on illegals, hiring Illegals, Aiding, welfare for non Citizens so they can live better than most American Citizens.......Cross into Mexico Illegally, Demand Welfare, drive drunk, fly the American Flag , protest and complain about the Mexican Government and see  where that gets you......We wont even mention rape or murder of a Mexican Citizen.

 

Karsten

 

 

Criminals will always have some sort of Weapon to carry out what ever it is they have planned

[nstoolman1]

If a person is Bi-Polar and they don't take their meds, then yes. It would be safer for all. 

Ptsd if military caused should be handled by the VA with a high priority assigned to it. 

Depression is too vague and a wide spectrum of causes. 

My point is:

The rights of people NOT doing wrong should not be violated or suppressed. 

 

If a family has any of those listed issues then they should take the initiative to secure any firearm that are in the house. 

[cranman]

1 hour ago, 8th ID said:

 

nstoolman said it exactly. Like I said, if a person cannot function normally in society then they need to be locked up.

I'm going to assume you're not including those born with mental disabilities. I thought I'd get that cleared up before someone jumps on it.

[MyLadiesDaddy]

10 minutes ago, cranman said:

I'm going to assume you're not including those born with mental disabilities. I thought I'd get that cleared up before someone jumps on it.

I'm going to jump in  many people suffer from some sort of mental illness today. In my opinion most of that is related to the pollution of our ecosystem. While the other majority would be PTSD. 

However, their are MANY different levels of mental illness. Not everyone who suffers can or should be placed in an institution. Such placements should ONLY be allowed when someone begins to show signs of instability. ie. Posing a threat to themselves or others. 

What is needed is a MUCH GREATER level of awareness to said signs followed up with laws allowing for institutional help. Those laws ONLY exist today in situations of attempting suicide.

[bostonangler]

7 minutes ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said:

What is needed is a MUCH GREATER level of awareness to said signs followed up with laws allowing for institutional help. Those laws ONLY exist today in situations of attempting suicide.

 

I have a very close friend who runs one of these institutions. 20 or 30 years ago they would lock up the insane. Today they can only hold them for 30 days... They don't have the money to keep them... They know they are releasing dangerous people but they do not have the funds... They had a budget for this but they have been cut because we can't afford to house the insane. 

 

How about more corporate welfare? How about we build some more bombs? How about we give more billions to every nation on the planet?Anyone?

 

B/A

[umbertino]

3 hours ago, Shabibilicious said:

 

No worries....I'll keep posting my viewpoints, as respectfully as possible, and within the boundaries of forum rules. 

 

GO RV, then BV  

 

Of course...We certainly don't want to be mistaken for the DV Forum rebels and potential terrorists of the "written word"....(think about it...Why should be only us deemed that infact?????)

[umbertino]

8 hours ago, bostonangler said:

 

 

 

 

This does nothing but promote them... It doesn't matter who or what they are, you put them out there and they love it and other whackos think this is going to make them famous if they do something sick...

 

B/A

 

One more valid reason to have everyone  legally owning a firearm  being checked by a Psychiatrist at least once a year......There can be never a total guarantee but it surely helps and doesn't hurt......

 

About those owning firearms illegally I do realize it's a huge problem.....

Edited August 5, 2019 by umbertino

[umbertino]

2 hours ago, Shabibilicious said:

 

Do you think everybody with a mental illness issue should be institutionalized?  Let me put it this way....do you feel a person suffering from say bi-polar disorder or ptsd or depression should be institutionalized?  If not, should those same people have access to guns?

 

GO RV, then BV

 

Obviously not  Logic would dictate ...But my stance on this has zero  value / impact as I'm non-American ( for the joy of many, of multitudes even, I  suppose)

[nstoolman1]

42 minutes ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said:

I'm going to jump in  many people suffer from some sort of mental illness today. In my opinion most of that is related to the pollution of our ecosystem. While the other majority would be PTSD. 

However, their are MANY different levels of mental illness. Not everyone who suffers can or should be placed in an institution. Such placements should ONLY be allowed when someone begins to show signs of instability. ie. Posing a threat to themselves or others. 

What is needed is a MUCH GREATER level of awareness to said signs followed up with laws allowing for institutional help. Those laws ONLY exist today in situations of attempting suicide.

Yes I agree.

 

 

 

 

 

1 hour ago, cranman said:

I'm going to assume you're not including those born with mental disabilities. I thought I'd get that cleared up before someone jumps on it.

Yes. The care givers of those unfortunate people have the responsibility of keeping a safe environment. 

[umbertino]

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Truth be told I don't think you realize how many people you upset

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That's a highly subjective matter to begin with...And you think that's a good reason enough for neggin someone / anyone infact just for thinking differently from us? You said you got negs yourself and I hope you realize that's a bad attitude in principle ( negging someone)...That's the beginning of Hate ( I happen to know something about it, unwillingly so but that's what happened )...It starts with an apparently innocent ruby and then it grows and grows...Just like an avalanche starting with a micro snowball...JMVHO

[umbertino]

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You posted that link as if to suggest I do not understand the use of the word.

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Nope...That wasn't my motive  I simply liked the fact you named Machiavelli...The reason I posted that link is only due to the fact that  among the thousands passing through this site , some may happen not to know him....Which is not a federal crime....Even in Italy itself many do not know him.....

 

 

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Or maybe you wanted to suggest you approve of Machiavellian Behavior

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Nope again

The reason is just thae one I wrote above

 

 

I hope I did clarify those 2 points

Edited August 5, 2019 by umbertino