Indraman Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Shabibilicious said: Exactly GO RV, then BV I don't believe in Identity Politics but since the primary argument by our friends from the LEFT seems to be that Trump is primarily a "Racist" (how many times will we go down this path?) I will make the counter argument that he is a Nationalist'. The LEFT looks through a lense of Identity and must make judgements based on only immutable characteristics, rather than content of one's character. And who are the 'Racists' in this Country? In fact, the LEFT are becoming so fragmented from Identity Politics that they are eating their own. Look at AOC calling Pelosi a racist just last week. Trump has given a large portion of Americans the courage and the desire to stand up to Political Correctness and say, "STFU!". We are tired being called some "ism" because someone might perceive the argument as offensive. "GROW UP ALREADY!". Indy Edited July 18, 2019 by Indraman 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonangler Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 7 minutes ago, Indraman said: I don't believe in Identity Politics but since the primary argument by our friends from the LEFT seems to be that Trump is primarily a "Racist" (how many times will we go down this path?) I will make the counter argument that he is a Nationalist'. The LEFT looks through a lense of Identity and must make judgements based on only immutable characteristics, rather than content of one's character. And who are the 'Racists' in this Country? In fact, the LEFT are becoming so fragmented from Identity Politics that they are eating their own. Look at AOC calling Pelosi a racist just last week. Trump has given a large portion of Americans the courage and the desire to stand up to Political Correctness and say, "STFU!". We are tired being called some "ism" because someone might perceive the argument as offensive. "GROW UP ALREADY!". Indy So indy, do you approve of him telling American citizens to get out for voicing their opinion? I'm just curious. B/A 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shabibilicious Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, Indraman said: I don't believe in Identity Politics but since the primary argument by our friends from the LEFT seems to be that Trump is primarily a "Racist" (how many times will we go down this path?) I will make the counter argument that he is a Nationalist'. The LEFT looks through a lense of Identity and must make judgements based on only immutable characteristics, rather than content of one's character. And who are the 'Racists' in this Country? In fact, the LEFT are becoming so fragmented from Identity Politics that they are eating their own. Look at AOC calling Pelosi a racist just last week. Trump has given a large portion of Americans the courage and the desire to stand up to Political Correctness and sat, "STFU!". We are tired being called some "ism" because someone might perceive the argument as offensive. "GROW UP ALREADY!". Indy United States of America "Nationalists" don't tell their fellow citizens to go back to their own countries when their own country is the United States of America. Isn't nationalism all about country and it's citizens first? Or is this a new brand of Nationalist that's not inclusive to all citizens of the nation? "GROW UP ALREADY", indeed. GO RV, then BV 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indraman Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 37 minutes ago, Shabibilicious said: United States of America "Nationalists" don't tell their fellow citizens to go back to their own countries when their own country is the United States of America. Isn't nationalism all about country and it's citizens first? Or is this a new brand of Nationalist that's not inclusive to all citizens of the nation? "GROW UP ALREADY", indeed. GO RV, then BV How many times did during the 2016 Election did we hear people say that they would leave America if Trump was elected...I wish they would leave America and I am sure a majority of Americans would agree. If you are for policy that hurts Americans, you are not for America. For example, the Democrat stance and actions on Immigration Policy is pathetic...not one thing they stand for is good for Americans (immigrated or not). Indy 2 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonangler Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, Indraman said: If you are for policy that hurts Americans, you are not for America. You mean like corporate welfare? Tariffs? Promoting reckless rhetoric? Attacking free speech? Who is hurting who? B/A 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indraman Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 10 minutes ago, bostonangler said: You mean like corporate welfare? Tariffs? Promoting reckless rhetoric? Attacking free speech? Who is hurting who? B/A Abortion? How many Millions have died? 40 Million? Indy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shabibilicious Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, Indraman said: Abortion? How many Millions have died? 40 Million? Indy Donald, even more so than Obama, has made it clear he can do whatever he wants through E.O and simply ignoring the rule of law.....where's the abortion ban E.O. then? He needs some of those 'pro choice' voters that side with him on other issues, that's where. GO RV, then BV 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indraman Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 14 minutes ago, bostonangler said: You mean like corporate welfare? Tariffs? Promoting reckless rhetoric? Attacking free speech? Who is hurting who? B/A Corporate Welfare? Last I looked, we have the lowest unemployment rates since WWII. And for your Identity Politics view of the World, Blacks, Latinos, Women, and even Men are seeing the best economic expansion in their lifetime. If you feel this is 'bad' for America, then you are living in an alternative reality. Indy 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonangler Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, Indraman said: Abortion? How many Millions have died? 40 Million? Indy We were talking about Trump policies, but you've taken a turn. I'm somewhere out there you'll find Trump supported that at one time or another... After all he was a liberal for most of his life... Will that finally end this insanity? b/A 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shabibilicious Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 Just now, Indraman said: Corporate Welfare? Last I looked, we have the lowest unemployment rates since WWII. And for your Identity Politics view of the World, Blacks, Latinos, Women, and even Men are seeing the best economic expansion in their lifetime. If you feel this is 'bad' for America, then you are living in an alternative reality. Indy Money is a great start for those groups you mentioned.....an equal seat at the table is even better. As always, just my opinion. GO RV, then BV 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonangler Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Indraman said: Corporate Welfare? Last I looked, we have the lowest unemployment rates since WWII. And for your Identity Politics view of the World, Blacks, Latinos, Women, and even Men are seeing the best economic expansion in their lifetime. If you feel this is 'bad' for America, then you are living in an alternative reality. Indy Last I looked, they don't count people who have been unemployed for x amount of time... Just like in the PT days... I also see those jobs being created are not living wage jobs, but I'm sure that's Obama's fault. Corporations got huge welfare checks and Trump told us they would reinvest in jobs and technology. All I've seen is them reinvest in their companies with stock buy backs and bonuses... When will people learn? When GE, Amazon, and the other huge multinationals don't pay taxes, who do you think covers our expenses. Our founding father never thought taxing individuals was the proper method, but now all my conservative friends think corporations shouldn't pay taxes and individuals should... What the heck is going on. B/A Edited July 18, 2019 by bostonangler 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonangler Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 (edited) I knew it.... https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/trump-in-1999-i-am-very-pro-choice-480297539914 Edited July 18, 2019 by bostonangler 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyLadiesDaddy Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 1 hour ago, bostonangler said: So indy, do you approve of him telling American citizens to get out for voicing their opinion? I'm just curious. B/A That's NOT what he said. He told them because they hate America so much, they should go back to their own Failed countries and fix them, then come back and tell us how. 19 minutes ago, Indraman said: Abortion? How many Millions have died? 40 Million? Indy Try 60+ Million 5 minutes ago, bostonangler said: I knew it.... https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/trump-in-1999-i-am-very-pro-choice-480297539914 I used to lean that way myself. It fit in with my promiscuous life style of the day. But I gave my life to Jesus and everything changed. Point is, normal people grow and change all the time. Only the mentally ill think themselves unnecessary for growth and change. 8 minutes ago, bostonangler said: Last I looked, they don't count people who have been unemployed for x amount of time That was under Obama, look again. It's a brand new day. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synopsis Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 The Elitists/Socialists/Hyper Socialists/Fascists/Nazists/Liberals/Progressives/Leftists are NOT only opposed to True The United States Of America Patriots BUT TRULY ARE ENEMIES Of The State Of The United States Of America. The Founding Principles noted by The Founding Fathers HAVE BEEN RECORDED AND SERVE AS THEE STANDARD TO DETERMINE WHO ARE True The United States Of America Patriots AND THOSE WHO ARE ENEMIES OF THE VERY SAME STATE OF The United States Of America. THE INDEPENDENT RECORD IS NOTED SOLELY BY THEE four (4) Textual Cornerstones: The Bible The Constitution Of The United States Of America TO INCLUDE The Ratified Bill Of Rights/Declaration Of Independence/Federalist Papers Blackstone English Common Law stripped of Crown Entity Obligations The Magne Carte ALL based on TOWARDS THEE four (4) Textual Cornerstones: Personal Acknowledgement Personal Responsibility Personal Ownership The four (4) Textual Cornerstones are living ONLY IN THAT THEE four (4) Textual Cornerstones LIVE IN THE True The United States Of America Patriot. The four (4) Textual Cornerstones are NOT living in that THEE four (4) Textual Cornerstones CHANGE over time. The STATIC four (4) Textual Cornerstones MADE AMERICA GREAT AND KEEP AMERICA GREAT NOT Elitists / Socialists / Hyper Socialists / Fascists / Nazists / Liberals / Progressives / Leftists with THEIR ideals THEY ATTEMPT to SHOVE DOWN the throats of True The United States Of America Patriots. Alexis de Tocqueville > Quotes > Quotable Quote “I sought for the greatness and genius of America in her commodious harbors and her ample rivers – and it was not there . . . in her fertile fields and boundless forests and it was not there . . . in her rich mines and her vast world commerce – and it was not there . . . in her democratic Congress and her matchless Constitution – and it was not there. Not until I went into the churches of America and heard her pulpits aflame with righteousness did I understand the secret of her genius and power. America is great because she is good, and if America ever ceases to be good, she will cease to be great.” https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/1008646-i-sought-for-the-greatness-and-genius-of-america-in 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
md11fr8dawg Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 Shack Indy, the division started and has be fostered over the years by the Rats. And our spineless GOP leaders were either too scared or too "refined" to respond in kind. And the whole time. harding working, tax paying, freedom loving citizens were frustrated as HELL. It seemed we had no voice. And if a conservative leader tried to push back on the Rats agenda, they were called every name/ism in the book until they tucked their tails and went away. Alongs comes Trump, who could give a Rats A$$ what these fools on the left say and that is why the American people are so supportive. They feel someone cares about them and the country. And NO IDON'T WANT TO HEAR WHAT THE ANTIFA FOOLS HAVE TO SAY!!! I share and agree with very little the radical left has to says. And the Lame stream media has lost ALL credibility. I served the nation so these MORANS have the right to have their say and protest/demonstrate, not to get violent and start assaulting people. And is not the Donald's supporter who are doing this. It is the Obamma hard left leaning radicals who are doing this. This has been going on for many many years by the left (not loving this country and always looking for the bad not the good in it) and it can to a head under the Bummer going around the world apologizing for this nation and bowing to other country dignitaries. It was Bummer who fostered and encouraged civil unrest and the divide go the country. All you have to do is read the Rules for Radicals or the manifesto of Marx and Obummer was following it to the letter. Remember "fundamentally change America". Well true Patriotic Americans don't want their country fundamentally changed. They had 18 GOP candidates running for the nomination to run for president and they chose Trump. Why? Because they saw in the other 17 candidates NO FIGHT and NO SPINE and they were tired of electing someone, getting their hopes up and then watching that guy get steam rolled by the Rats. They saw in Trump, a brawler and fighter and that is what they wanted. A Bull in a china shop who will break and disrupt things. When I hear what these fools on the left spew out of their mouths it makes me sick. And usually Trumps response is appropriate. If you don't like this country, fine, sell your ideas to the people in a sane civilized way without running the country and the people in the ground. If you cannot do that then "GET THE HELL OUT". I suffered for 8 LONG YEARS watching this incompetent joke of a person and President try to run this country in the ground. He did and said many things as bad a Trump, EXCEPT very few Americans heard it because the "free press" refuse to cover ANYTHING negative about him, HillDawg or Mochelle. But they will go so far as to make up lie after lie and even get caught red handed in their lies and they don't give a rats ass. So if Trump offends them so what, I've been offended for years by the left. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shabibilicious Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 13 minutes ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said: I used to lean that way myself. It fit in with my promiscuous life style of the day. But I gave my life to Jesus and everything changed. Point is, normal people grow and change all the time. Only the mentally ill think themselves unnecessary for growth and change. What a fantastic thing to say about the mentally ill......You have any more enlightenment to share about mentally ill human beings, Doc? GO RV, then BV 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
learning all i can Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 10 minutes ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said: I used to lean that way myself. It fit in with my promiscuous life style of the day. But I gave my life to Jesus and everything changed. Point is, normal people grow and change all the time. Only the mentally ill think themselves unnecessary for growth and change. isn't it amazing that God does grow us up. He gives us opportunity after opportunity to follow His ways and not our own. By His grace alone He brings about our maturity to love His standards. Like you, I never gave abortion much thought but once Jesus made me His own a total transformation came. Not all at once, I'm still a work in progress but daily reading of His word brings more understanding and the love of the things that He would have His children live and love. Just amazing how He changes our hearts and makes us to strive to be more like Him. What a Saviour ! 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonangler Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 25 minutes ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said: He told them because they hate America so much, they should go back to their own Failed countries and fix them, then come back and tell us how They are Americans... Why don't you go back to your old country? Because you are an American. Geeez Is he just promoting hate or is he really that stupid and are his followers that stupid... How can you go back to where you came from when you are from here???? Please explain this logic. B/A 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shabibilicious Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, md11fr8dawg said: Shack Indy, the division started and has be fostered over the years by the Rats. And our spineless GOP leaders were either too scared or too "refined" to respond in kind. And the whole time. harding working, tax paying, freedom loving citizens were frustrated as HELL. It seemed we had no voice. And if a conservative leader tried to push back on the Rats agenda, they were called every name/ism in the book until they tucked their tails and went away. Alongs comes Trump, who could give a Rats A$$ what these fools on the left say and that is why the American people are so supportive. They feel someone cares about them and the country. And NO IDON'T WANT TO HEAR WHAT THE ANTIFA FOOLS HAVE TO SAY!!! I share and agree with very little the radical left has to says. And the Lame stream media has lost ALL credibility. I served the nation so these MORANS have the right to have their say and protest/demonstrate, not to get violent and start assaulting people. And is not the Donald's supporter who are doing this. It is the Obamma hard left leaning radicals who are doing this. This has been going on for many many years by the left (not loving this country and always looking for the bad not the good in it) and it can to a head under the Bummer going around the world apologizing for this nation and bowing to other country dignitaries. It was Bummer who fostered and encouraged civil unrest and the divide go the country. All you have to do is read the Rules for Radicals or the manifesto of Marx and Obummer was following it to the letter. Remember "fundamentally change America". Well true Patriotic Americans don't want their country fundamentally changed. They had 18 GOP candidates running for the nomination to run for president and they chose Trump. Why? Because they saw in the other 17 candidates NO FIGHT and NO SPINE and they were tired of electing someone, getting their hopes up and then watching that guy get steam rolled by the Rats. They saw in Trump, a brawler and fighter and that is what they wanted. A Bull in a china shop who will break and disrupt things. When I hear what these fools on the left spew out of their mouths it makes me sick. And usually Trumps response is appropriate. If you don't like this country, fine, sell your ideas to the people in a sane civilized way without running the country and the people in the ground. If you cannot do that then "GET THE HELL OUT". I suffered for 8 LONG YEARS watching this incompetent joke of a person and President try to run this country in the ground. He did and said many things as bad a Trump, EXCEPT very few Americans heard it because the "free press" refuse to cover ANYTHING negative about him, HillDawg or Mochelle. But they will go so far as to make up lie after lie and even get caught red handed in their lies and they don't give a rats ass. So if Trump offends them so what, I've been offended for years by the left. Yeah it is.....Trump fans are above the fray. GO RV, then BV 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonangler Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, Shabibilicious said: Yeah it is.....Trump fans are above the fray. GO RV, then BV He going to pay for a lot more of these idiots if he keeps up his love of Jesus and scripture. He's such a Godly guy. B/A 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
learning all i can Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 13 minutes ago, Synopsis said: Alexis de Tocqueville > Quotes > Quotable Quote “I sought for the greatness and genius of America in her commodious harbors and her ample rivers – and it was not there . . . in her fertile fields and boundless forests and it was not there . . . in her rich mines and her vast world commerce – and it was not there . . . in her democratic Congress and her matchless Constitution – and it was not there. Not until I went into the churches of America and heard her pulpits aflame with righteousness did I understand the secret of her genius and power. America is great because she is good, and if America ever ceases to be good, she will cease to be great.” https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/1008646-i-sought-for-the-greatness-and-genius-of-america-in Excellent....And when she ceases to be good and great it will be because she has put God aside. God has made this country great but few still believe in His goodness and greatness. America is slowly fading away and will soon end if hearts and minds are not once again turned towards Him. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyLadiesDaddy Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 12 minutes ago, bostonangler said: They are Americans... Why don't you go back to your old country? Because you are an American. Geeez Is he just promoting hate or is he really that stupid and are his followers that stupid... How can you go back to where you came from when you are from here???? Please explain this logic. B/A You're internationally not wanting to understand his point so there's little I can do for you. 17 minutes ago, learning all i can said: isn't it amazing that God does grow us up. He gives us opportunity after opportunity to follow His ways and not our own. By His grace alone He brings about our maturity to love His standards. Like you, I never gave abortion much thought but once Jesus made me His own a total transformation came. Not all at once, I'm still a work in progress but daily reading of His word brings more understanding and the love of the things that He would have His children live and love. Just amazing how He changes our hearts and makes us to strive to be more like Him. What a Saviour ! Keep reading Sister, and pray as often as you possibly can. I doubt that the growth will ever stop. My wife used to refer to me as "the new and improved Scotty". But now she says she can't keep up. Those who TRULY follow God with their Hearts are forever changing and going the RIGHT direction. 21 minutes ago, Shabibilicious said: What a fantastic thing to say about the mentally ill......You have any more enlightenment to share about mentally ill human beings, Doc? GO RV, then BV I seemed to have MISTAKENLY assumed you would understand. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synopsis Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 (edited) 15 minutes ago, learning all i can said: Excellent....And when she ceases to be good and great it will be because she has put God aside. God has made this country great but few still believe in His goodness and greatness. America is slowly fading away and will soon end if hearts and minds are not once again turned towards Him. The insidious issue SUBVERTING THEE four (4) Textual Cornerstones since the founding of THIS GREAT NATION IS the Elitists / Socialists / Hyper Socialists / Fascists / Nazists / Liberals / Progressives / Leftists DEMAND to remove the HEART elements of one OR more of THEE four (4) Textual Cornerstones AND PERMANENTLY IMPLANT THEM IN A GOVERNMENT FUNCTION NOT We The People. THIS is WHY there is no higher and greater need for Governance THAN SELF Governance based on THEE four (4) Textual Cornerstones WITH PRIMARILY AND FOUNDATIONALLY: Personal Acknowledgement Personal Responsibility Personal Ownership We The People Of The United States Of America WHO ARE ACTUAL CITIZENS are CITIZENS NOT SUBJECTS OF The United States Of America THAT IS WHY IT IS IMPERATIVE FOR THEE four (4) Textual Cornerstones TO LIVE IN True The United States Of America Patriots. The ORIGINAL AND FOUNDING True The United States Of America Patriots pledged THEIR Sacred Honor for such LIKE True The United States Of America Patriots MUST TODAY AND IN PERPETUITY!!! The Elitists / Socialists / Hyper Socialists / Fascists / Nazists / Liberals / Progressives / Leftists HAVE NO Sacred Honor AND DEMAND OTHERS ACQUIESCE TO THEIR DEFEATING PRINCIPLES AND BECOME SUBJECTS THERE TO!!! Edited July 18, 2019 by Synopsis 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonangler Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said: You're internationally not wanting to understand his point so there's little I can do for you. So basically you can't explain sending someone back to where they are from? Maybe he is working on Back to the Future 4 B/A 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shabibilicious Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said: I seemed to have MISTAKENLY assumed you would understand. I understand completely.....I thought maybe you had more enlightenment to offer the parents, brothers, sisters, friends, etc. etc. of mentally ill individuals. GO RV, then BV 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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