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5 minutes ago, ChuckFinley said:

I do not think the MoE is a show stopper. There was one in place and I believe they may just roll it under the Higher MoE. The key was Def and Interior. I was hot on Art8 because of the multi-currency aspect. I have just been focusing on Adam's post. I believe he has not posted because he is waiting to see what happened Wednesday and today. His last was Standby. Why post when you can text that we have an RV. 

I was also curious why he hasn't updated.  Probably very busy with all the impending news and things happening and waiting for today's news to kick in before sending out a good update.  I read different opinions and I don't ignore that Adam, who is probably the most knowledgeable about all of this, came out and said he was on high alert.  That's enough for me to stand by and wait.  Everything is really falling into place whether it be this week or next month.  We are there, I just know it.

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1 minute ago, navira said:

Hey bro CF, agree on merger of the two edus...hope we see them voted tomorrow as well...and the finance supervision n the CBI governor and a number of positions that may come into play on tomorrow's session...cheers bros

I am leaning that way because of Sadr statement and because it makes sense. Just waiting on Art8 news. 

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1 minute ago, Miamiheatnic said:

I was also curious why he hasn't updated.  Probably very busy with all the impending news and things happening and waiting for today's news to kick in before sending out a good update.  I read different opinions and I don't ignore that Adam, who is probably the most knowledgeable about all of this, came out and said he was on high alert.  That's enough for me to stand by and wait.  Everything is really falling into place whether it be this week or next month.  We are there, I just know it.

Agree, I am not hooked on getting this done this weekend, I would love to. This is Iraq and that alone should tell you that logic is out the window.  If things are inplace then this can truly pop at any second. 

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This is what gets me all fired up!  

 

Adam Montana July 11th update:

 

"There is NO absolute "must" for Iraq. They can change the rate today. Or yesterday, or tomorrow. They can do it without any further progress, without any permission from anyone or anything, and all the speculation in the world won't give us an exact date or a precise set of circumstances.

 

The situation we find ourselves in today, at this very moment, is "good enough".

 

Personally, I'm on standby for an incredible event."

 

Good enough is good enough for me!!!

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5 minutes ago, Miamiheatnic said:

This is what gets me all fired up!  

 

Adam Montana July 11th update:

 

"There is NO absolute "must" for Iraq. They can change the rate today. Or yesterday, or tomorrow. They can do it without any further progress, without any permission from anyone or anything, and all the speculation in the world won't give us an exact date or a precise set of circumstances.

 

The situation we find ourselves in today, at this very moment, is "good enough".

 

Personally, I'm on standby for an incredible event."

 

Good enough is good enough for me!!!

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21 minutes ago, ChuckFinley said:

I have just been focusing on Adam's post. I believe he has not posted because he is waiting to see what happened Wednesday and today.

 

Either That Or He’s On A Summer Vacation Along With Nearly Half Country This Time Of Year - Since His Profile Shows That The Last Time He Visited The Site Was Monday Morning ! :o 

 

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The Central Bank denies any smuggling operation to Iraqi currency categories

  
 http://economy-news.net/content.php?id=17296
Economy News - Baghdad

The Central Bank denied on Friday that any smuggling operation of Iraqi currency groups, while stressing that this attack today, coincided with the announcement of the bank on the growth of reserves and control of the exchange rate.

The bank said in a statement seen by the "economy News", "Some social media means a video clip showing some categories of the Iraqi currency, in boxes written by the name of the Central Bank of Iraq, which provoked a boycott of smuggling of the Iraqi currency," denying " Any smuggling operation. "

He added that "the funds offered do not belong to the Central Bank, and differ from the funds in the Iraqi currency, in terms of form, color, material and pilgrimage," noting that "the Central Bank began to follow up with the security authorities, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and embassies of the countries mentioned in the video, There are previous cases in which the investigation has been proven by the security services, which is totally incorrect. "

"The bank has not yet been found on these papers and has not been publicly displayed in any country. The current investigations have proved that they are only pictures and films," the bank said. "The central bank prints its currency in the global printing houses and monitors its production, Making the paper to the final version, according to tables and serial numbers checked at each stage until receipt in Iraq. "

The bank warned of "the confusion that is taking place with the aim of undermining the country and its successful institutions, including the central bank, the more one of these institutions achieved success locally and internationally, has been subjected to such slander."

He added that "this attack comes today, coinciding with the announcement of the bank on the growth of reserves and control of the exchange rate, in order to reduce this success."

The bank called on the media to "be careful in dealing with the news, because the inaccurate news has negative effects on the stability of the banking and financial system in Iraq."

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You guys are killing me, I come in and see the HOT symbol next to this thread and man my blood gets pumping lol, I think I look forward to this thread and adams chats now....really hoping to get off this train at the next stop!! nice job fellas on bringing the news.

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1 hour ago, navira said:

Dozens of supporters of the "Wisdom Stream" flock to the prime minister's office in central Baghdad

 

I have been worried about these protests so I was a bit relieved to see that there are only "dozens" of protestors today.  I dug a little further to find out what they are about and learned that these protests happen every summer as the average citizens deal with power outages in excessive heat, ongoing government corruption and unemployment.  But this year it's worse because people have water shortages and are angry after electing a new government that doesn't seem to be changing much.  The government cracks down pretty hard on the protestors and have even killed 11 of them in the past 2 weeks.  But, no doubt because the government is so rough with them, the protests seem to be in check.  I feel bad to learn about all of this, and I even feel a degree of selfishness for only rooting for the RV because of what it means to me.  But on the other hand, I think the RV will be a huge blessing for the people of Iraq (which they really could use) and it will bring international investment which will bring jobs and better infrastructure.  Also, hopefully Sadr will turn out to be a good leader for Iraq (it takes time to drain the swamp after all) and hopefully he will significantly reduce corrpution.  Since these protests don't seem to be too out of control, I personally do not think they will have much of an impact on the RV, but for such while I continue to pray for the RV, I will be praying hard for the people of Iraq that they can become the first successful democratic government (or a Republic or any other form of government that serves its people instead of vice versa) in the Middle East.   

 

For anyone who's interested in learning more about the Iraq protests, below is a great article from Al Jazeera, which explains it very well. https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/iraqis-protesting-180718131316968.html

Why are Iraqis protesting?

 

For the past two weeks, waves of mass protests haveengulfed several of Iraq's southern governorates, spreading from Basra all the way to the capital, Baghdad.

 

Summer protests are a fairly regular feature of the Iraqi political calendar, as the unbearable heat brings the public's long-simmering grievances to boiling point. However, this year's protests will likely cause Iraq's political classes more concern than usual.

 

The root causes and triggers of the ongoing protests are not that different from previous years: lack of basic services (especially electricity shortages), corruption, and unemployment. In addition to the infernal heat, this summer has been marked by unprecedented watershortages. The ensuing public anger was exacerbated by 15 years of remarkable levels of waste and theft. 

However, the context of 2018 makes this round of "summer protests" somewhat different previous ones. In December 2017, the Iraqi government declared victory in the war against the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL, known as ISIS), but seven months later ordinary Iraqis still have not seen a peace dividend.

 

There has been incessant talk of political reform since at least 2014, but it continues to be business-as-usual for Iraq's political class. The supposedly game-changing "post-ISIL" election has come and gone, but brought no change. The ever more distant, unresponsive, self-interested and thoroughly rotten political elites are still enriching themselves, while ordinary Iraqis struggle to make ends meet.

 

In other words, even if the grievances of the Iraqi public are the same, their hopes, expectations and tolerance for the status quo are not.

 

The reduction of violence, the retreat of identity politics and the relative stabilisation of the state have brought Iraq's systemic failures into sharper focus. In the absence of existential struggles and civil war, Iraqis finally got some breathing space that has allowed them to demand more from their corrupt political elites.

 

The (caretaker) Iraqi government's response to the protests has been ham-fisted and heavy-handed. Since the protests erupted some two weeks ago, 11 people have died and some 500 people have been injured (including at least 300 members of the security forces).

 

Water cannon and live ammunition have been used against protesters and Baghdad even sent units from the elite Counter Terrorism Service to southern governorates to help with crowd control. The internet was temporarily shut down in most of Iraq, while some social media platforms remain blocked.

Protesters have burned down party offices across southern Iraq. Few political parties were spared: from PM Haider al-Abadi's Dawa Party to the Badr organisation (affiliated with the Popular Mobilisation Forces, PMUs), and even more hardline and more Iran-leaning groups such as Asa'ib Ahl al-Haq (Khazali Network) and Kata'ib Hezballah (Hezbollah Brigades) got their fair share of public anger.

Conspiracy theories

There has been some speculation that the protests were deliberately incited. Some have argued that followers of Iraqi-cleric-turned-politician Muqtada al-Sadr (whose political alliance won a narrow plurality in the May elections) are behind the protests, and especially the burning of party offices, which are meant to increase their leverage in government-formation negotiations.

It is difficult to tell the extent to which political actors are using the protests as cover for their own ends, but reducing what is happening to a mere function of elite political rivalries would be a mischaracterisation. The current burst of rage has been aimed at the political class in general and might be too anti-system even for al-Sadr, the self-styled champion of reform.

The Sadrists angle is one of a number of narratives that have emerged seeking a conspiratorial motive behind what are, in fact, spontaneous, organic, and recurrent protests by Iraqis who have more than enough reasons to be disillusioned and angry.

As with previous Iraqi crises, we are seeing old and predictable partisan scripts being recirculated. Defenders of the political system are quick to discredit the protesters with that oldest of post-2003 accusations: "Baathists". One PMU-affiliated politician said that Saudi Arabian and Baathist agents had infiltrated the protests.

 

Another, a spokesman for Asa'ib Ahl al-Haq, pointed the finger at Zionist-American and Turko-Gulf plots. Conspiracy theorising about Iraq is never complete without an Iranian angle and, sure enough, there have been plenty of people pointing a finger at Iran as either the target or the instigator of the protests.

This, of course, follows an all too familiar pattern of displacing Iraqi agency and Iraqi issues with Iranian interests and priorities thereby scripting Iraq out of its own commentary.

While there has indeed been plenty of anti-Iranian sentiment in these protests with images of Ayatollah Khomeini being set alight and anti-Iranian slogans being voiced, ultimately these protests are not about Iran.

 

Rather, anti-Iranian sentiment, in this case, is a by-product (not a driver) of rage against the entire Iraqi political order. Iran is seen as a guarantor and as a beneficiary of the system with Iranian interests converging in a web of complicity with those of Iraq's political classes.

 

In that sense, the anti-Iranian sentiment is not only reflective of long-standing Iraqi popular resentment towards the country, but is also an act of protest and defiance against a political elite that is seen as responsible, alongside its Iranian allies/patrons, for Iraq's failures.

As for the notion that Iran is the instigator of these protests: the dire conditions of the southern governorates, and indeed in the rest of Iraq, are such that conspiracies and foreign actors are not a prerequisite for outbursts of popular rage.

 

Ultimately, whether it is Iran, Baathists, ISIL, Saudis or any other force, insisting on a hidden guiding hand behind these protests denies Iraqis agency, dismisses their grievances and ultimately serves to delegitimise - indeed criminalise - protest. In that sense, to reduce these protests to "infiltrators" and foreign agents is cynical and foolish.

Not a revolution

On the other end of the spectrum, we have opponents of the political order who frame the protests as a revolution or as Iraq's "Arab Spring moment". This is wishful thinking and the reality is that the current political system is likely to persist with minor if not cosmetic changes.

Here, it is worth asking what a revolution can look like in Iraq circa 2018. The diffusion of military and political power, the brittleness of the state and its compromised sovereignty - in other words, some of its worst features - might paradoxically be the political order's most powerful preservative in that it precludes the possibility of state capture, absent its complete destruction by way of a major civil war or a foreign 2003-esque intervention.

The Stream - After ISIL: What is life like in Mosul?

 

There is no guiding ideology to be overturned, no Leviathan to tear down and no singular authoritarian figure whose demise might signal a structural shift in the governing order. Rather than revolutionary climaxes, Iraq is far more likely to witness gradual change through a recurring cycle of political and economic pressures leading to protests and riots that, in turn, meet a combination of force and piecemeal reforms. Indeed, elements of just such a dynamic have been in evidence since 2011 and more so since 2014.

 

For now, it looks like the protests are going to continue. Iraq's acting Prime Minister al-Abadi has shifted away from trying to discredit the protesters with talk of "infiltrators" and conspiracies and has adopted a more conciliatory approach. 

 

After an unnecessary delay, he announced a series of measures including the immediate allocation of $3.5bn for development projects in Basra and the dismissal of three ministers.

 

These measures are unlikely to be enough to fully absorb the protest momentum that has been generated thus far. Indeed, it is unclear what the prime minister can realistically offer to calm tensions down in the short term. The failures of Iraqi governance are so deep, cumulative and structural as to defy quick fixes.

 

What political actor or arm of the Iraqi state can quickly and adequately face the challenges of desertification, water shortages, water salinity, unemployment, governance, reconstruction, corruption, etc?

 

What short or even medium-term fix is there for the fact that Iraq's oil sector supplies 90 percent of its revenue, but employs just four percent of the population? These are long-term problems that require far more vision than Iraq's self-interested political classes are likely to be able to offer.

 

Genuine attempts at structural change - say a shift to a majority government rather than dysfunctional "consensus governments" and the despised system of ethno-sectarian apportionment - would appease public sentiment and secure much goodwill and public buy-in.

 

But structural change is a tall order. A more likely scenario is for a combination of force, enticements and fatigue to eventually reduce the scale of discontent to more manageable levels until the next round of protests.

 

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So n so says China trade deal is delaying this. I dont agree. I dont think Iraq would let a deal between the US and China hold up reconstruction and an RV for another 6 months. I say 6 months because the rate change can only happen at the beginning or halfway through the year if I remember correctly.  Just too much momentum right now to suddenly stop. It could be delayed until January but the will be a lot of angry Iraqis to contend with.  JMO

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1 minute ago, cranman said:

So n so says China trade deal is delaying this. I dont agree. I dont think Iraq would let a deal between the US and China hold up reconstruction and an RV for another 6 months. I say 6 months because the rate change can only happen at the beginning or halfway through the year if I remember correctly.  Just too much momentum right now to suddenly stop. It could be delayed until January but the will be a lot of angry Iraqis to contend with.  JMO

It amazes me that he went from saying a week ago, this is it! This is your weekend, it’s over!! To now saying it may be next year.. Does he always flip flop on his “predictions”? I think now is a great time especially if the IMF moves them to article VIII..

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Just now, navira said:

Arceo, lol...that boy is really behind news...like I said he doesn't know the agenda for tomorrow's session haha

 

That Fricken’ Guru ‘So And So’ Can’t Tell His Parliament Head From His Assembly ! :o 

 

:D  :D  :D 

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I only started following him a few weeks ago.  He seems like he means well but doesn't know anymore than you or I.  But since he started talking publicly about the dinar he now has start covering his butt. Especially since last week it was a done deal and since then nothing has really changed.

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