Shabibilicious Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, caz1104 said: Agreed, But I believe you would agree there would be no "alleged" abuse if they weren't here in the 1st place. You stop the migration 1st and then deal with remaining second That's also a fair point....but it does nothing for the conditions of the children who already reside in the detention centers. Both issues can be handled simultaneously....anything less is political in motive. As always, just my opinion. GO RV, then BV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caz1104 Posted July 5, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 (edited) if I allow my children to swim in shark infested waters and they are attacked......blame the sharks is the lefts view....smh. Or if I have my kids engage in something illegal....lets say sex or drug trafficking .............my guess the left would blame law enforcement. Edited July 5, 2019 by caz1104 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caz1104 Posted July 5, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 9 minutes ago, Shabibilicious said: That's also a fair point....but it does nothing for the conditions of the children who already reside in the detention centers. Both issues can be handled simultaneously....anything less is political in motive. As always, just my opinion. GO RV, then BV "political motive" swings both ways 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caz1104 Posted July 5, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 (edited) On 7/3/2019 at 9:49 AM, nstoolman1 said: Jesus has been crying a river for years over the way this country handles abortions, the homeless, veterans. If these illegal immigrants don't want to be incarcerated or separated from their families then don!t come here. What is so hard about that? A lot of these so called families are ploys to get an adult in. They use these kids as shields to get in. If the people want this to stop they need to get on the Dems and tell them to build the wall. you're a meanie. How dare you side for legal citizens over illegals Edited July 5, 2019 by caz1104 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shabibilicious Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 7 minutes ago, caz1104 said: if I allow my children to swim in shark infested waters and they are attacked......blame the sharks is the lefts view....smh. Or if I have my kids engage in something illegal....lets say sex or drug trafficking .............my guess the left would blame law enforcement. Are you really comparing sharks, nature's one track mind killing machines, to border detention officials, who I assume were born with brains and feelings? Come on Caz....that's quite a stretch. GO RV, then BV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caz1104 Posted July 5, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 Just now, Shabibilicious said: Are you really comparing sharks, nature's one track mind killing machines, to border detention officials, who I assume were born with brains and feelings? Come on Caz....that's quite a stretch. GO RV, then BV no just using it as a point of reference in the blame game. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shabibilicious Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 9 minutes ago, caz1104 said: "political motive" swings both ways There should be no political motive where a child's welfare is involved. Here's a point that will get major push back from all sorts of angles, and most people know my stance on abortion.....but I find it interesting how "most" of the really staunch anti-abortion types care nothing for the welfare of children once they're born.....not my kid, not my problem. No offense intended to you as I'm not saying that's your stance....I just see the glaring discrepancy and find it odd. As always, just my opinion. GO RV, then BV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shabibilicious Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, caz1104 said: no just using it as a point of reference in the blame game. Do you really think that's my mindset and how I process things?...or am I simply a man of differing political views? GO RV, then BV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyLadiesDaddy Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 On 7/3/2019 at 9:10 AM, Shabibilicious said: And yet no mention of remedying the poor incarceration conditions of the children already being held. I'm not referring to you personally here, but it's almost as if the Right is purposely providing squalid living conditions for these children as a political fire starter to push their Wall into existence. As always, just my opinion. GO RV, then BV You do realize that that is a position President Obama Started. President Trump is simply doing what has been done for the last 10 years. The Democratic party initiated this. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shabibilicious Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said: You do realize that that is a position President Obama Started. President Trump is simply doing what has been done for the last 10 years. The Democratic party initiated this. And Trump has the ultimate power to stop it......which he hasn't. GO RV, then BV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyLadiesDaddy Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 5 minutes ago, Shabibilicious said: There should be no political motive where a child's welfare is involved. Here's a point that will get major push back from all sorts of angles, and most people know my stance on abortion.....but I find it interesting how "most" of the really staunch anti-abortion types care nothing for the welfare of children once they're born.....not my kid, not my problem. No offense intended to you as I'm not saying that's your stance....I just see the glaring discrepancy and find it odd. As always, just my opinion. GO RV, then BV First of All, it is the Democratic party that has created this problem. By making loopholes in the laws which provide people a pathway to come into America illegally. It was Obama who started it as I stated above. Nobody I hope on either side likes what's happening. But the Democratic party refuses to pass legislation that would put an end to this all together. You can spend it all you want, but the blame Falls solely on the party you support. And to play this off against those of us who are starch anti-abortionist is a despicable spin on your part. So tell us please, what would you have us do with these children who are bought here by themselves without their parents? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyLadiesDaddy Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 1 minute ago, Shabibilicious said: And Trump has the ultimate power to stop it......which he hasn't. GO RV, then BV Again tell us how he can do that. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaman Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 On 7/3/2019 at 9:10 AM, Shabibilicious said: And yet no mention of remedying the poor incarceration conditions of the children already being held. I'm not referring to you personally here, but it's almost as if the Right is purposely providing squalid living conditions for these children as a political fire starter to push their Wall into existence. As always, just my opinion. GO RV, then BV providing squalid living conditions.... your joking right...I give they have cover over their heads ..a lot better then most Americans..send them ALL BACK 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shabibilicious Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 1 minute ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said: First of All, it is the Democratic party that has created this problem. By making loopholes in the laws which provide people a pathway to come into America illegally. It was Obama who started it as I stated above. Nobody I hope on either side likes what's happening. But the Democratic party refuses to pass legislation that would put an end to this all together. You can spend it all you want, but the blame Falls solely on the party you support system" rel="">support. And to play this off against those of us who are starch anti-abortionist is a despicable spin on your part. So tell us please, what would you have us do with these children who are bought here by themselves without their parents? If you worked at one of the detention centers I would say, treat them humanely....that's all. GO RV, then BV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shabibilicious Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said: Again tell us how he can do that. He's the Donald, the boss, the man....floating above all and overseer of all in this American kingdom of his. He can do it. He's contemplating an E.O. to add the citizenship question to the census for pete sake.....he can surely do something to make sure the migrant children under his ultimate charge are treated humanely. GO RV, then BV 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pitcher Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 Where in the Constitution does it say Illegals get the right to vote 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shabibilicious Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 7 minutes ago, jaman said: providing squalid living conditions.... your joking right...I give they have cover over their heads ..a lot better then most Americans..send them ALL BACK God's country, eh......that's funny right there. jk GO RV, then BV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nstoolman1 Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 Yes he can issue E.O.s all day on the matter. Then some liberal judge will put a stay on it. Then the Dems will cry and nash their teeth that he is by-passing their authority accusing him of being a dictator and nothing will still get done. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaman Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 President Trump gave the demarats more then they asked for and they the DRATS said no thanks. remember there is no crises 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jg1 Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 25 minutes ago, jaman said: providing squalid living conditions.... your joking right...I give they have cover over their heads ..a lot better then most Americans..send them ALL BACK I believe if they want to leave the detention centers they can. When they decide to claim refugee status, they can do it from out of our countey or in our country, right. If they choose to choose to do it in our country they have to follow the rules while their status is being processed. They are free to leave any time! The illegals I'm sure have been told what to say and what to do to overwhelm our system so they can come and stay and when called to a hearing years later, not show up. Ya, its criminal what has happened, to the children and the US citizens. The democrats and the republicans that caused this mess should be held accountable. Now stop this Insanity and build that wall. The people without a consous will continue with this madness. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caz1104 Posted July 5, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 2 hours ago, Shabibilicious said: Do you really think that's my mindset and how I process things?...or am I simply a man of differing political views? GO RV, then BV Shabs...I think ur not understanding me. Sure I believe you care about the welfare of kids as do I. My point is simple (to me anyway-lol) The left is using kids as are the kids parents really simple. Sadly we (USA) cant and shouldn't be responsible for the actions of the parents. If we didn't allow them into our country in the 1st place this discussion would be moot. We need to grow some gonads and refuse them entry To constantly put the burden on us the taxpayers is vary unfair.......we cant even care for our own. We (USA) have no reason to even be thinking about taking on more responsibilities, there has to be a time when we say ENOUGH!!!! Just like taxes......ENOUGH!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caz1104 Posted July 5, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 2 hours ago, Pitcher said: Where in the Constitution does it say Illegals get the right to vote Answer: Nowhere But anyone sane knows that's what the left wants............to increase the size of it's voting block. Damn to what it does to our country....it's all about political power....human rights my arse. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pitcher Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 ( 2 minutes ago, caz1104 said: to increase the size of it's voting block. Damn to what it does to our country....it's all about political power....human rights my arse. Bingo, and they are pulling out all the stops for 2020 Have you heard of Project Veritas. Here is an irony. Google it to see how Google is trying to censor anything Trump like so we never get another Trump. Google is run mostly by Dems so it’s not really surprising. Censorship, Open Borders, Spying on Oppostion, Phony Dosiers and Russian Collusion, what’s next Dems, besides Socialism. Unlawful Party doing whatever it takes to regain power. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caz1104 Posted July 5, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 Speaking of Census (well really u didn't) why do folks react to having the question ARE YOU A USA CITIZEN? 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yota691 Posted July 6, 2019 Report Share Posted July 6, 2019 14 hours ago, Pitcher said: Project Veritas 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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