Venezuela

[coorslite21]

Seems there is regime change in the air once again....but this might be different with both China and Russia having elite troops on the ground.....

 

But perhaps different than what we think?......What if those two countries also wanted to remove this violent dictator?

 

Let's watch it play out.....CL

[umbertino]

Venezuela opposition leader claims coup is under way – live news

 

Live updates as Juan Guaidó posts a video of himself flanked by armed forces claiming he is ‘starting the final phase of Operation Liberty’

 

 

Amanda Holpuch (now) and Sam Jones (earlier)

Tue 30 Apr 2019 17.57 BST

 

 

Key events

 

• 1h ago National guard armored vehicles driving into protestors
• 2h ago Guaidó: 'the moment is now'
• 3h ago Maduro: military has shown 'total loyalty'
• 4h ago Reports of shots fired
• 7h ago Guaidó claims 'final phase' under way to oust Maduro

 

Live feed

 

Vids & pics

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2019/apr/30/venezuela-opposition-leader-juan-guaido-claims-coup-underway-live-news

 

 

 

[umbertino]

 

US declares support for bid to overthrow Venezuela's Nicolás Maduro

 

• Mike Pompeo tweets in support of ‘Operación Libertad’
• Mike Pence, John Bolton and senior Democrat give backing

 

 

Julian Borger in Washington and Joe Parkin Daniels in Bogotá

Tue 30 Apr 2019 18.11 BST

 

 

Vid

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/apr/30/us-declares-support-for-venezuela-coup-attempt

[SgtFuryUSCZ]

***///

GodSpeed to The Venezuelan people who yearn to be free ! 

Like our President says: we're here for you ! 

 

We, too, are currently facing an onslaught of radical socialism.

We are providing safe haven to many of your people who know it's wrong

to allow it to take root and spread it's evil & enslave it's people.

 

We Pray the ignorant masses here will learn from what you are going through and

have a change of heart & mind before it's too late.

 

Make ALL of The Americas Great Again..... eradicate the socialists !

 

.

[Waaa]

8 hours ago, SgtFuryUSCZ said:

eradicate the socialists !

Starting with Umbetino!

[nstoolman1]

9 hours ago, Waaa said:

Starting with Umbetino!

 

Foul

 

The man is entitled to his opinion.

He is not some despot trying to eradicate people for standing against him.

He is not trying to take over a country. 

I prefer the idea of eradicating the idea of Socalism.

 

[MyLadiesDaddy]

9 hours ago, Waaa said:

Starting with Umbetino!

Double FOUL.

He could say the same about you or me , but he's got far too much class to be so gauche.

[umbertino]

7 hours ago, nstoolman1 said:

 

Foul

 

The man is entitled to his opinion.

He is not some despot trying to eradicate people for standing against him.

He is not trying to take over a country. 

I prefer the idea of eradicating the idea of Socalism.

 

 

 

Thanks, nstoolman1...That's appreciated

[umbertino]

6 hours ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said:

Double FOUL.

He could say the same about you or me , but he's got far too much class to be so gauche.

 

Thanks LGD

[umbertino]

A Debate on Maduro: Two Venezuelans Oppose U.S. Intervention But Differ on Steps Ahead

 

Includes quotes on Venezuela by President Trump, Mike Pompeo, John Bolton

 

 

May 02, 2019

 

 

 

https://www.democracynow.org/2019/5/2/a_debate_on_maduro_two_venezuelans

[coorslite21]

Looks like two US Carrier Groups are now headed to Venezuela......always interesting!     CL

[umbertino]

The plot that failed: how Venezuela's 'uprising' fizzled

 

When the coup was hurriedly launched a day early, defections from the regime failed to materialise, Maduro remained in power and the US government looked like it had badly miscalculated

 

 

by Patricia Torres in Caracas, Julian Borger in Washington, Joe Parkin Daniels in Bogotá and Tom Phillips in Mexico City

Fri 3 May 2019 19.47 BST

 

 

Many pics

 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/03/venezuela-protests-news-latest-maduro-uprising-that-fizzled-

 

Mike Pompeo and Sergei Lavrov ( russian foreign minister) meeting  next week in Helsinki, Finland

Edited May 3, 2019 by umbertino

[Waaa]

On 5/1/2019 at 9:24 AM, nstoolman1 said:

 

Foul

 

The man is entitled to his opinion.

He is not some despot trying to eradicate people for standing against him.

He is not trying to take over a country. 

I prefer the idea of eradicating the idea of Socalism.

 

 

On 5/1/2019 at 9:34 AM, ladyGrace'sDaddy said:

Double FOUL.

He could say the same about you or me , but he's got far too much class to be so gauche.

i am more than a little disappointed in you gentlemen.

the spreading of sedition should not be met with tolerance.

opinions are fine but is it necessary for a non American to be allowed to disparage the American way with impunity?

Edmund Burke said it best in my "opinion"

The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.

 

[nstoolman1]

You would not be the first to be disappointed in me and I am sure you won't be the last.

"Freedom of expression" guaranteed under the 1st A is the back bone of a free scociety. 

It is the duty of every American to know what this Republic stands for. They should not be swayed by liberal talk. 

I am less worried about a foreign national expressing his opinion through a liberal magazine

and more worried about our own U.S based intelligence and DOJ departments plotting, spying and attempting to overthrow a duly elected U.S President. That alone should cause a shudder down every American citizens spine. 

 

[MyLadiesDaddy]

4 hours ago, Waaa said:

 

i am more than a little disappointed in you gentlemen.

the spreading of sedition should not be met with tolerance.

opinions are fine but is it necessary for a non American to be allowed to disparage the American way with impunity?

Edmund Burke said it best in my "opinion"

The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.

 

I don't understand your post, I was defending Umbertino. 

[umbertino]

5 hours ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said:

I don't understand your post, I was defending Umbertino. 

 

And again that's appreciated, LGD....Sorry a few will hate you for this...

[MyLadiesDaddy]

8 minutes ago, umbertino said:

 

And again that's appreciated, LGD....Sorry a few will hate you for this...

I'm getting used to being hated

[Waaa]

23 hours ago, nstoolman1 said:

I am less worried about a foreign national expressing his opinion through a liberal magazine

so your thoughts are "i do not mind because he does not matter"?

 

14 hours ago, umbertino said:

Sorry a few will hate you for this...

Azz kissing!

14 hours ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said:

I'm getting used to being hated

i will not hate you for misguided defence!

everybody gets fooled now and again!

[nstoolman1]

41 minutes ago, Waaa said:

so your thoughts are "i do not mind because he does not matter"?

 

No, this was my complete thought:

 

"I am less worried about a foreign national expressing his opinion through a liberal magazine

and more worried about our own U.S based intelligence and DOJ departments plotting, spying and attempting to overthrow a duly elected U.S President. That alone should cause a shudder down every American citizens spine."

 

 

Until Umb takes it to the next step, and act out an anti-U.S operation, he is free to say anything he wants. If he did act he would 

suffer the consequences of his actions like all before him who have tried. 

 

Mr. Montana has allowed great leeway in what can or can not be said on this site. If and when he puts stricter rules in play 

I say " There is always the ignore button" 

 

 

 

[umbertino]

Quote

.....Until Umb takes it to the next step, and act out an anti-U.S operation....

End Quote

 

Smile....No, not the case at all (obviously)....I'm just a giddy, short  and by now more than middle-aged (62) Italian.....

 

 

Thanks nstoolman

 

Best

 

 

 

 

Quote

Mr. Montana has allowed great leeway in what can or can not be said on this site. If and when he puts stricter rules in play 

I say " There is always the ignore button" 

End Quote

 

Agreed 100,000%

Edited May 10, 2019 by umbertino

[MyLadiesDaddy]

 

[pokerplayer]

On 4/30/2019 at 10:47 PM, Waaa said:

Starting with Umbetino!

 

That was totally uncalled for. Those red rubys you recieved are well deserved and yes, one of them was from me.

 

   pp

[jg1]

On 5/1/2019 at 7:24 AM, nstoolman1 said:

 

Foul

 

The man is entitled to his opinion.

He is not some despot trying to eradicate people for standing against him.

He is not trying to take over a country. 

I prefer the idea of eradicating the idea of Socalism.

 

 

On 5/1/2019 at 7:24 AM, nstoolman1 said:

 

Foul

 

The man is entitled to his opinion.

He is not some despot trying to eradicate people for standing against him.

He is not trying to take over a country. 

I prefer the idea of eradicating the idea of Socalism.

 

Everyone has an opinion, they are like, you know what. Everyone has one. 

[umbertino]

3 hours ago, pokerplayer said:

 

That was totally uncalled for. Those red rubys you recieved are well deserved and yes, one of them was from me.

 

   pp

 

Thanks Friend

[umbertino]

2 hours ago, jg1 said:

 

Everyone has an opinion, they are like, you know what. Everyone has one. 

 

 

Good evening, jg1.....

 

 

You are totally right on that one...I do agree