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The establishment sleazebags in Washington are setting up 

their Dictatorship and overthrow of our POTUS. Wake up folks 

This is no longer about Democrats and Republicans, this is 

about government without representation. This is about us and 

them. Those complete morons in DC who think themselves to 

be greater than us. It is time to rise up in unison and show them 

who the real BOSS IS. If this passes then our elections are nothing 

more than a joke. 

 

 

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11 minutes ago, Shabibilicious said:

Making it easier for more registered voters to vote seems completely counterproductive to a conservative agenda, that's for sure.

 

GO RV, then BV

It's a combination of poor education via the public school system and lack of reading skills that have led to the rise of a Democratic Socialist Party. People who lack the intellectual ability to understand common phrases and sentences could never understand the true meaning behind sadistic legislation. The uneducated will be the downfall of America.

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3 minutes ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said:

It's a combination of poor education via the public school system

 

Because conservatives don't support education... They support tax breaks for... Well you know

 

4 minutes ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said:

The uneducated will be the downfall of America.

 

Right on time according to the master plan... Conservatives want slave labor... When Volkswagen moved to Chattanooga, they couldn't find employees educated enough to work in the high tech factory... They had to open their own school, because Americans are so stupid.

Just the way conservatives want it.

 

If this makes you mad, I'm sorry, but show me where conservatives are passing legislation to educate our children.. They are building bombs not our future.

 

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Just now, bostonangler said:

conservatives are passing legislation to educate our children

Wasn't Obama an gang the one responsible for Common Core..You know all answer are right as long as you made an attempt. Just like sports Participation trophy's to everyone, that way you don't hurt anyone feelings...

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Just now, yota691 said:

Wasn't Obama an gang the one responsible for Common Core..You know all answer are right as long as you made an attempt. Just like sports Participation trophy's to everyone, that way you don't hurt anyone feelings...

 

Wasn't it Bush who created  No Child Left Behind?

 

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2 minutes ago, yota691 said:

Well I'm all in for any child, but I don't support system" rel="">support 2+2= 5, which was Obama

 

So you are cool with kids who can't read but get passed to the next grade so school systems can keep their federal dollars? That is the control needed to destroy our education system and thus our society... Our ranking against the world in math, science, etc... continues to slip. We are in decline and that's the way  politicians like it. This isn't a new idea, every great empire collapses because of the same basic reasons, and we are just the latest one...

 

So go prop up your favorite politicians and tell them how great they are doing and in the future you can explain to your grand kids why their life sucks... Because you thought education wasn't an investment, but building a wall, or buying more bombs was a better way to go.

 

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22 minutes ago, bostonangler said:

 

Because conservatives don't support system" rel="">support education... They support system" rel="">support tax breaks for... Well you know

 

 

Right on time according to the master plan... Conservatives want slave labor... When Volkswagen moved to Chattanooga, they couldn't find employees educated enough to work in the high tech factory... They had to open their own school, because Americans are so stupid.

Just the way conservatives want it.

 

If this makes you mad, I'm sorry, but show me where conservatives are passing legislation to educate our children.. They are building bombs not our future.

 

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Well you certainly are proving my point as far as education goes. To Say I don't support education while siteing the post above shows that you do not have reading comprehension skills. I believe uneducated people will destroy this nation. Therefore I support education. What I do not support is the public indoctrination system they call schools. That is why my children attend a private school.

As for the whole Corporation thing I have a question. Towards the end of Barack Hussein Obama's presidency you were bragging about how well you did in the stock market. And you have several times since then. Pray tell us dear Lassie who are you invested in, in the stock market? I doubt seriously  it is anything smaller than a major corporation. So it's okay for you to profit off of the corporations that you say are stealing money from the poor people that they employ. Can you explain this to us, it seems to be something of a conundrum.

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1 minute ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said:

Well you certainly are proving my point as far as education goes. To Say I don't support system" rel="">support education while siteing the post above shows that you do not have reading comprehension skills. I believe uneducated people will destroy this nation. Therefore I support system" rel="">support education. What I do not support system" rel="">support is the public indoctrination system they call schools. That is why my children attend a private school.

As for the whole Corporation thing I have a question. Towards the end of Barack Hussein Obama's presidency you were bragging about how well you did in the stock market. And you have several times since then. Pray tell us dear Lassie who are you invested in, in the stock market? I doubt seriously  it is anything smaller than a major corporation. So it's okay for you to profit off of the corporations that you say are stealing money from the poor people that they employ. Can you explain this to us, it seems to be something of a conundrum.

 

 

What I find funny is the people who are against higher education are the people who need it the most.

 

As for my investments they are quite diverse and many of my investments are in very small companies who are right here in America, not multi-nationals.

 

 

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1 minute ago, bostonangler said:

 

 

What I find funny is the people who are against higher education are the people who need it the most.

 

As for my investments they are quite diverse and many of my investments are in very small companies who are right here in America, not multi-nationals.

 

 

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Please explain to me how you U equated public school system with higher education. And as far as higher education goes consider the whiny crying  Alexandria ocasio-cortez people the college's of today and the universities are putting out. I'd hardly call that education.

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1 minute ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said:

Please explain to me how you U equated public school system with higher education. And as far as higher education goes consider the whiny crying  Alexandria ocasio-cortez people the college's of today and the universities are putting out. I'd hardly call that education.

 

Last I checked, most colleges are public... Like The University of Kansas...

 

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Just now, ladyGrace'sDaddy said:

Well that would explain why they're worse than the lower grades of public school.

 

Yup, wouldn't be great if you knew your daughter could go to college and have the chance for a better future, without having to worry about it. But that can't happen while our politicians left or right continue to bankrupt the country and build walls, the war machine, let corporations skate by on their taxes... Our government is not a business I would invest in with the current leadership from either party. We need change and unless Americans decide to vote them all out and reset the clock, this will only get worse.

 

Why 70% Of Companies Paid Zero In Corporate Taxes: They Had Zero Profits

https://www.forbes.com/sites/aparnamathur/2016/04/20/why-70-of-companies-paid-zero-in-corporate-taxes-they-had-zero-profits/#414b3d1156e3

 

Amazon Inc. Paid Zero in Federal Taxes in 2017, Gets $789 Million Windfall from New Tax Law

https://itep.org/amazon-inc-paid-zero-in-federal-taxes-in-2017-gets-789-million-windfall-from-new-tax-law/

 

 

 

Here's what we spend on the war machine

 

Image result for government spending pie chart

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4 minutes ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said:

You say that as if Bush was really a conservative. A family that supported Hitler during World War II is hardly what I would call a conservative family.

 

You may not call him a conservative, but he sure did get the support of conservatives... Maybe the republican voter needs a little higher education.

 

that's sarcasm… all voters need a little more education.

 

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Arguing over people trying to better themselves through education, whatever school that may be......Hahahahaha, classic.  I think we would all agree, a classic home schooled child tends to do better academically, while a public schooled child tends to do better in social surroundings and people skills (OF COURSE THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS).  I fail to see the point in arguing about it though.  AOC is the Left's version of the Right's Rand Paul, big deal....they are both ineffective.  All that said, it would be shortsighted to say the majority of the people who voted for Donald J. Trump have more than a simple K-12 public education.  

 

GO RV, then BV  

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Education, Not Income, Predicted Who Would Vote For Trump

By Nate Silver

Filed under 2016 Election

 

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Sometimes statistical analysis is tricky, and sometimes a finding just jumps off the page. Here’s one example of the latter.

I took a list of all 981 U.S. counties1 with 50,000 or more people2 and sorted it by the share of the population3 that had completed at least a four-year college degree. Hillarious Clinton improved on President Obama’s 2012 performance in 48 of the country’s 50 most-well-educated counties. And on average, she improved on Obama’s margin of victory in these countries by almost 9 percentage points, even though Obama had done pretty well in them to begin with.

Clinton’s margin surged in the 50 most-educated counties
COUNTY COLLEGE DEGREE MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD INCOME OBAMA 2012 CLINTON 2016 SHIFT
Average 51.4% $77,768k +17.3 +25.9 +8.5
Arlington, VA 72.0 105,120 +39.8 +60.1 +20.3
Alexandria, VA 61.5 87,319 +43.5 +59.0 +15.5
Howard, MD 60.4 110,133 +22.0 +33.5 +11.5
New York, NY 59.3 71,656 +68.8 +77.2 +8.4
Fairfax, VA 59.2 112,102 +20.5 +36.2 +15.7
Boulder, CO 58.2 69,407 +41.8 +48.7 +6.9
Loudoun, VA 58.0 123,966 +4.5 +16.8 +12.3
Montgomery, MD 57.4 98,704 +43.9 +55.6 +11.7
Orange, NC 56.2 57,261 +42.2 +51.0 +8.8
Douglas, CO 55.9 102,626 -25.8 -18.1 +7.7
Hamilton, IN 55.6 84,635 -34.3 -19.6 +14.7
Marin, CA 54.8 91,529 +51.3 +62.8 +11.5
Williamson, TN 54.1 91,743 -46.5 -35.5 +11.0
District of Columbia 53.4 69,235 +83.6 +88.7 +5.1
San Francisco, CA 52.9 78,378 +70.5 +75.7 +5.2
Johnson, KS 52.1 75,017 -17.4 -2.7 +14.7
Albemarle, VA 52.1 67,958 +12.0 +25.0 +13.0
Somerset, NJ 52.0 100,903 +5.6 +12.5 +6.9
Washtenaw, MI 51.8 60,805 +35.9 +41.5 +5.6
Johnson, IA 51.7 54,985 +35.5 +38.2 +2.7
Benton, OR 51.4 49,338 +28.5 +33.8 +5.3
Middlesex, MA 51.3 83,488 +27.1 +38.9 +11.8
Delaware, OH 51.1 91,936 -23.2 -16.1 +7.1
Morris, NJ 50.6 99,142 -10.8 -4.4 +6.4
Tompkins, NY 50.3 52,836 +40.6 +42.1 +1.5
Norfolk, MA 49.9 86,469 +15.2 +31.6 +16.4
Broomfield, CO 49.5 80,430 +6.0 +14.1 +8.1
Douglas, KS 49.4 50,732 +24.6 +32.7 +8.1
Collin, TX 49.4 84,233 -31.5 -17.0 +14.5
Chester, PA 48.8 86,093 -0.2 +9.3 +9.5
Fulton, GA 48.6 56,642 +29.8 +42.1 +12.3
Story, IA 48.5 51,270 +13.8 +12.2 -1.6
Hunterdon, NJ 48.3 106,519 -17.8 -13.8 +4.0
Wake, NC 48.3 66,579 +11.4 +20.5 +9.1
Chittenden, VT 48.0 64,243 +41.6 +47.4 +5.8
Boone, MO 47.7 49,059 +3.1 +5.9 +2.8
Dane, WI 47.6 62,303 +43.5 +48.0 +4.5
Santa Clara, CA 47.3 93,854 +42.9 +52.3 +9.4
Eagle, CO 47.3 73,774 +14.9 +19.9 +5.0
King, WA 47.1 73,035 +40.6 +50.5 +9.9
DuPage, IL 46.7 79,016 +1.1 +14.1 +13.0
Gallatin, MT 46.7 54,298 -5.0 +1.0 +6.0
Ozaukee, WI 46.4 75,643 -30.3 -19.3 +11.0
Hennepin, MN 46.4 65,033 +27.0 +35.3 +8.3
Madison, MS 46.3 63,156 -15.7 -16.0 -0.3
Montgomery, PA 46.2 79,926 +14.3 +21.1 +6.8
James City, VA 46.1 76,705 -12.0 -5.1 +6.9
Bergen, NJ 46.1 83,686 +11.3 +12.0 +0.7
Westchester, NY 46.0 83,422 +25.1 +32.8 +7.7
Durham, NC 45.6 52,038 +52.8 +60.4 +7.6

SOURCES: AMERICAN COMMUNITY SURVEY, U.S. ELECTION ATLAS, ABC NEWS

Although they all have highly educated populations, these counties are otherwise reasonably diverse. The list includes major cities, like San Francisco, and counties that host college towns, like Washtenaw, Michigan, where the University of Michigan is located. It also includes some upper-middle-class, professional counties such as Johnson County, Kansas, which is in the western suburbs of Kansas City. It includes counties in states where Clinton did poorly: She improved over Obama in Delaware County, Ohio, for example — a traditionally Republican stronghold outside Columbus — despite her numbers crashing in Ohio overall. It includes extremely white counties like Chittenden County, Vermont (90 percent non-Hispanic white), and more diverse ones like Fulton County, Georgia, where African-Americans form the plurality of the population. If a county had high education levels, Clinton was almost certain to improve there regardless of the area’s other characteristics.

Now here’s the opposite list: The 50 counties (minimum population of 50,000) where the smallest share of the population has bachelor’s degrees:

Clinton collapsed in the 50 least-educated counties
COUNTY COLLEGE DEGREE MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD INCOME OBAMA 2012 CLINTON 2016 SHIFT
Average 13.3% $41,108 -19.3 -30.5 -11.3
Liberty, TX 8.8 47,722 -53.3 -58.0 -4.7
Starr, TX 9.6 25,906 +73.3 +60.1 -13.2
Acadia, LA 9.9 37,684 -49.8 -56.7 -6.9
Apache, AZ 10.1 32,396 +34.3 +36.9 +2.6
Duplin, NC 10.4 34,787 -11.6 -19.2 -7.6
Walker, AL 10.7 36,712 -52.8 -67.5 -14.7
Edgecombe, NC 10.7 33,892 +36.2 +32.2 -4.0
St. Mary, LA 11.1 41,956 -18.8 -27.6 -8.8
DeKalb, AL 11.3 37,977 -54.7 -69.4 -14.7
Anderson, TX 11.3 42,511 -52.1 -58.1 -6.0
McKinley, NM 11.4 29,812 +46.9 +39.5 -7.4
Henry, VA 11.5 34,344 -14.7 -29.2 -14.5
Putnam, FL 11.6 32,714 -24.5 -36.6 -12.2
Darke, OH 11.6 43,323 -44.4 -61.2 -16.8
Halifax, NC 11.9 32,834 +32.3 +26.9 -5.4
Laurel, KY 11.9 35,746 -63.6 -69.1 -5.5
Sampson, NC 12.1 35,731 -10.9 -16.7 -5.8
Maverick, TX 12.1 32,536 +58.1 +55.8 -2.3
Mohave, AZ 12.2 38,456 -42.1 -51.5 -9.4
Blount, AL 12.3 44,409 -73.9 -81.4 -7.5
Robeson, NC 12.4 30,581 +17.4 -4.8 -22.2
Kings, CA 12.5 47,341 -14.9 -17.4 -2.5
Talladega, AL 12.5 35,896 -16.0 -25.5 -9.5
Pike, KY 12.5 32,571 -50.5 -62.7 -12.2
Marion, OH 12.5 42,904 -6.4 -34.4 -28.0
Lea, NM 12.6 55,248 -49.8 -48.3 +1.5
Columbus, NC 12.7 34,597 -7.8 -22.1 -14.3
Terrebonne, LA 12.9 49,932 -41.2 -48.4 -7.2
Wilkes, NC 12.9 32,157 -42.4 -55.2 -12.8
Jackson, AL 12.9 36,874 -41.8 -62.5 -20.7
Le Flore, OK 12.9 35,970 -41.1 -58.7 -17.6
Merced, CA 13.0 43,066 +8.7 +7.9 -0.8
Hawkins, TN 13.0 37,432 -46.9 -63.4 -16.5
Vermilion, LA 13.0 47,344 -52.8 -59.6 -6.8
St. Landry, LA 13.1 33,928 -4.3 -11.9 -7.6
Rockingham, NC 13.1 38,946 -21.1 -30.0 -8.9
Huron, OH 13.1 49,315 -8.3 -36.4 -28.1
Clearfield, PA 13.2 41,510 -28.9 -49.5 -20.6
Tulare, CA 13.3 42,863 -15.0 -16.2 -1.2
Rusk, TX 13.3 46,924 -51.1 -56.6 -5.5
Ashtabula, OH 13.4 40,304 +12.8 -19.0 -31.8
Imperial, CA 13.4 41,772 +32.0 +41.8 +9.7
Bullitt, KY 13.4 56,199 -35.7 -49.8 -14.1
Caldwell, NC 13.4 34,853 -35.5 -50.6 -15.1
Montcalm, MI 13.4 40,739 -8.6 -34.0 -25.4
Madera, CA 13.5 45,490 -17.1 -17.3 -0.2
Dickson, TN 13.5 45,056 -28.4 -45.7 -17.3
Tuscola, MI 13.5 44,017 -10.8 -38.0 -27.2
Pearl River, MS 13.5 40,997 -59.3 -66.7 -7.4
Columbiana, OH 13.6 43,707 -11.8 -41.6 -29.8

SOURCES: AMERICAN COMMUNITY SURVEY, U.S. ELECTION ATLAS, ABC NEWS, ALASKA DIVISION OF ELECTIONS

These results are every bit as striking: Clinton lost ground relative to Obama in 47 of the 50 counties — she did an average of 11 percentage points worse, in fact. These are really the places that won Donald Trump the presidency, especially given that a fair number of them are in swing states such as Ohio and North Carolina. He improved on Mitt Romney’s margin by more than 30 points (!) in Ashtabula County, Ohio, for example, an industrial countyalong Lake Erie that hadn’t voted Republican since 1984.

And this is also a reasonably diverse list of counties. While some of them are poor, a few others — such as Bullitt County, Kentucky, and Terrebonne Parish, Louisiana — have average incomes. There’s also some racial diversity on the list: Starr County, Texas, is 96 percent Hispanic, for example, and Clinton underperformed Obama there (although she still won it by a large margin). Edgecombe County, North Carolina, is 57 percent black and saw a shift toward Trump.

How do we know that education levels drove changes in support — as opposed to income levels, for example? It’s tricky because there’s a fairly strong correlation between income and education.4 Nonetheless, with the whole country to pick from, we can find some places where education levels are high but incomes are average or below average. If education is the key driver of changes in the electorate, we’d expect Clinton to hold steady or gain in these counties. If income matters more, we might see her numbers decline.

As it happens, I grew up in one of these places: Ingham County, Michigan, which is home to Michigan State University and the state capital of Lansing, along with a lot of auto manufacturing jobs (though fewer than there used to be). The university and government jobs attract an educated workforce, but there aren’t a lot of rich people in Ingham County. How did Clinton do there? Just fine. She won it by 28 percentage points, the same as Obama did four years ago, despite her overall decline in Michigan.

And in most places that fit this description, Clinton improved on Obama’s performance. I identified 22 counties5 where at least 35 percent of the population has bachelor’s degrees but the median household income is less than $50,0006 and at least 50 percent of the population is non-Hispanic white (we’ll look at what happened with majority-minority counties in a moment, so hang tight). Clinton improved on Obama’s performance in 18 of the 22 counties, by an average of about 4 percentage points:

High-education, medium-income white counties shifted to Clinton
COUNTY COLLEGE DEGREE MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD INCOME OBAMA 2012 CLINTON 2016 SHIFT
Average 40.2% $43,862 +4.8 +8.8 +4.0
Brazos, TX 38.3 39,060 -35.3 -23.6 +11.7
Champaign, IL 42.5 46,680 +7.0 +18.4 +11.4
Clarke, GA 39.3 33,430 +28.8 +38.0 +9.2
Harrisonburg, VA 35.6 38,807 +13.4 +21.9 +8.5
Fayette, KY 40.2 48,667 +1.0 +9.4 +8.4
Riley, KS 45.5 44,522 -12.0 -4.5 +7.5
Davidson, TN 36.5 47,434 +18.6 +26.0 +7.4
Benton, OR 51.4 49,338 +28.5 +33.8 +5.3
Alachua, FL 40.8 42,045 +17.4 +22.6 +5.2
Watauga, NC 38.0 35,491 -3.1 +1.5 +4.6
Monroe, IN 44.2 41,857 +19.1 +23.7 +4.6
Boone, MO 47.7 49,059 +3.1 +5.9 +2.8
Buncombe, NC 35.1 45,642 +12.5 +14.6 +2.1
Montgomery, VA 44.3 44,810 -0.3 +1.3 +1.6
Leon, FL 44.3 46,620 +23.6 +25.1 +1.5
Lafayette, MS 36.9 41,343 -15.3 -14.8 +0.5
New Hanover, NC 37.2 49,582 -4.6 -4.1 +0.5
Payne, OK 36.4 37,637 -28.4 -28.3 +0.1
Ingham, MI 36.5 45,278 +27.8 +27.7 -0.1
Monongalia, WV 38.8 46,166 -9.5 -10.4 -0.9
Tippecanoe, IN 35.2 44,474 -3.6 -5.7 -2.1
Missoula, MT 40.2 47,029 +17.8 +15.7 -2.1

Counties shown have a population of at least 50,000. At least 50 percent of residents are non-Hispanic whites, at least 35 percent of the age-25-and-older population has a bachelor’s degree or higher, and the median household income is below $50,000.

SOURCES: AMERICAN COMMUNITY SURVEY, U.S. ELECTION ATLAS, ABC NEWS

Are these so-called “white working-class” counties? You could argue for it: They’re mostly white, and they have average or below-average incomes. But, of course, “class” is a slippery term, and definitions vary. It is worth noting that many of the counties on the list are home to major colleges or universities, although there are some exceptions. Clinton made substantial gains in Nashville, Tennessee (Davidson County), and modest gains in Asheville, North Carolina (Buncombe County), for instance, and both places have reputations as intellectual and cultural havens but aren’t really college towns.7

There are also some counties where incomes are high but residents aren’t particularly well-educated. Take Suffolk County, New York, for instance, which comprises the eastern three-quarters of Long Island. The median household income there is around $88,000, but only about a third of the population has college degrees (as compared to a national average of around 30 percent). Suffolk County turned into Trump Territory, voting for him by 8 percentage points after Obama had won it by 4 points in 2012. Trump made even larger gains in Staten Island, New York (Richmond County), winning it by 17 points after Obama won it by 3 points in 2012.

Long Island and Staten Island might be peculiar cases because voters there may have a cultural affinity with Trump, who grew up in Queens. Even so, they reveal something about how cultural and educational fault lines can mean more than economic circumstances. Clinton improved over Obama’s performance in suburban Westchester County, New York, for instance, which has broadly similar income levels to Long Island and Staten Island but higher education levels and a different mix of occupations.8 (Staten Island is famous for its large population of police and firefighters, but you’ll meet a lot more journalists who have homes in Westchester.9)

Trump improved on Romney’s performance in 23 of 30 counties where median incomes are $70,000 or higher but less than 35 percent of the population have college degrees and the majority of the population is white. For example, Trump won by a much larger margin than Romney in Calvert County, Maryland, which has some commonalities with Long Island.10 And he substantially improved on Romney’s performance in Chisago County, Sherburne County and Wright County in the Minneapolis exurbs, even though Clinton made major gains in Minneapolis’ Hennepin County. There’s probably some degree of cultural self-sorting at play here. These communities have plenty of nice homes and good schools — they’re not cheap to live in — but they have fewer cultural amenities or pretensions (think big-box retail as opposed to boutiques) than you usually find in nearer-in suburbs and small towns such as those in Westchester County.

High-income, medium-education white counties shifted to Trump
COUNTY COLLEGE DEGREE MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD INCOME OBAMA 2012 CLINTON 2016 SHIFT
Average 30.4% $76,701 -11.0 -15.8 -4.8
Richmond, NY 30.6 74,043 +2.6 -16.8 -19.4
Chisago, MN 21.5 70,223 -12.6 -30.6 -18.0
Sherburne, MN 26.2 73,621 -22.0 -37.1 -15.1
Litchfield, CT 33.7 72,068 -3.6 -16.0 -12.3
Orange, NY 28.6 70,794 +5.7 -6.4 -12.1
Suffolk, NY 33.5 88,323 +3.7 -8.2 -11.9
Wright, MN 27.4 73,085 -21.7 -33.2 -11.5
Gloucester, NJ 28.7 76,213 +10.8 -0.5 -11.3
Calvert, MD 29.3 95,425 -7.5 -18.4 -10.9
Warren, NJ 29.5 70,934 -15.5 -25.6 -10.1
St. Mary’s, MD 29.8 88,190 -14.8 -24.6 -9.8
Sussex, NJ 33.1 87,397 -21.4 -30.2 -8.8
Dutchess, NY 33.4 72,471 +7.5 -1.1 -8.6
Anoka, MN 27.3 70,464 -2.6 -9.7 -7.1
Livingston, MI 33.0 73,694 -23.3 -29.6 -6.3
St. Croix, WI 32.4 70,313 -12.1 -18.4 -6.3
Harford, MD 33.4 81,016 -18.4 -24.5 -6.1
Spotsylvania, VA 28.3 78,505 -11.5 -16.8 -5.3
Fauquier, VA 34.3 92,078 -19.9 -24.7 -4.8
Carroll, MD 32.7 85,532 -32.9 -36.9 -4.0
Chesapeake, VA 29.4 70,176 +1.0 -1.3 -2.3
Ascension, LA 25.8 70,207 -34.3 -36.0 -1.7
Elko, NV 17.5 72,280 -53.2 -54.7 -1.5
Will, IL 32.6 76,142 +5.5 +5.6 +0.1
McHenry, IL 32.2 76,345 -8.8 -8.0 +0.8
Kendall, IL 34.3 83,844 -3.3 -1.5 +1.8
Plymouth, MA 34.0 75,816 +4.2 +10.1 +5.9
Napa, CA 31.9 70,925 +28.7 +35.3 +6.6
Kane, IL 31.8 70,514 +1.1 +9.0 +7.9
Davis, UT 34.6 70,388 -61.9 -22.9 +39.0

Counties shown have a population of at least 50,000. At least 50 percent of residents are non-Hispanic whites, less than 35 percent of the age-25-and-older population has a bachelor’s degree or higher, and the median household income is above $70,000.

SOURCES: AMERICAN COMMUNITY SURVEY, U.S. ELECTION ATLAS, ABC NEWS

Education levels are also increasingly dividing majority-minority communities from one another. For example, let’s look at a set of counties that were a sweet spot for the Obama coalition — those that are both diverse and highly educated. In particular, there are 24 counties (minimum population 50,000) in the U.S. where at least 35 percent of the population has college degrees and less than half the population is non-Hispanic white. Obama did really well in these counties in 2012, winning them by an average of 41 percentage points. But Clinton did even better, winning them by 47 points, on average. The only two such counties that Obama had lost, Clinton won: Fort Bend County, Texas, in suburban Houston, which voted for a Democrat for the first time since 1964, and Orange County, California, which hadn’t voted Democratic since 1936.

Highly educated majority-minority counties shifted toward Clinton
COUNTY COLLEGE DEGREE NON-HISPANIC WHITE OBAMA 2012 CLINTON 2016 SHIFT
Average 42.9% 41.9% +41.2 +47.5 +6.3
Fort Bend, TX 42.3 35.5 -6.8 +6.6 +13.4
Fulton, GA 48.6 40.6 +29.8 +42.1 +12.3
Montgomery, MD 57.4 47.4 +43.9 +55.6 +11.7
Orange, CA 37.3 42.9 -6.2 +5.2 +11.4
San Mateo, CA 45.0 41.2 +46.7 +57.2 +10.5
San Diego, CA 35.1 47.5 +7.6 +17.1 +9.5
Santa Clara, CA 47.3 34.1 +42.9 +52.3 +9.4
New York, NY 59.3 47.4 +68.8 +77.2 +8.4
Yolo, CA 38.3 48.8 +34.0 +42.1 +8.1
DeKalb, GA 40.3 29.7 +56.8 +64.7 +7.9
Suffolk, MA 41.0 47.1 +56.7 +64.6 +7.9
Contra Costa, CA 39.4 46.6 +35.2 +42.9 +7.7
Durham, NC 45.6 42.1 +52.8 +60.4 +7.6
Mecklenburg, NC 41.5 49.6 +22.4 +29.9 +7.5
Richmond, VA 35.4 39.7 +57.3 +63.8 +6.5
San Francisco, CA 52.9 41.4 +70.5 +75.7 +5.2
District of Columbia 53.4 35.4 +83.6 +88.7 +5.1
Prince William, VA 38.1 47.0 +16.0 +20.1 +4.1
Alameda, CA 42.1 33.3 +60.7 +64.4 +3.7
Cook, IL 35.3 43.4 +49.4 +53.0 +3.6
Richland, SC 36.2 44.6 +32.0 +32.9 +0.9
Santa Fe, NM 39.9 43.4 +51.1 +50.8 -0.3
Hudson, NJ 36.8 29.6 +56.1 +51.9 -4.2
Middlesex, NJ 40.7 47.0 +27.6 +19.7 -7.9

Counties on this list have a population of at least 50,000. Less than 50 percent of residents are non-Hispanic whites and at least 35 percent of the age-25-and-older population has a bachelor’s degree or higher.

SOURCES: AMERICAN COMMUNITY SURVEY, U.S. ELECTION ATLAS, ABC NEWS

By contrast, Clinton struggled (relatively speaking) in majority-minority communities with lower education levels. Among the 19 majority-minority countries where 15 percent or less of the population has a bachelor’s degree, she won by an average of only 7 percentage points, less than Obama’s 10-point average margin of victory in 2012. We need to be slightly careful here because of the potential ecological fallacy — it’s not clear if minority voters shifted away from Clinton in these counties or if the white voters who live there did. Still, Trump probably gained overall among Latino and black voters compared to Romney, and it’s worth investigating divisions within those communities instead of treating their votes as monolithic.

Low-education majority-minority counties shifted toward Trump
COUNTY COLLEGE DEGREE NON-HISPANIC WHITE OBAMA 2012 CLINTON 2016 SHIFT
Average 12.8% 30.3% +10.1 +7.0 -3.1
Robeson, NC 12.4 26.7 +17.4 -4.8 -22.2
Cumberland, NJ 13.8 49.0 +24.2 +5.3 -18.9
Starr, TX 9.6 3.4 +73.3 +60.1 -13.2
McKinley, NM 11.4 10.1 +46.9 +39.5 -7.4
Crittenden, AR 14.6 44.7 +14.9 +8.9 -6.0
Halifax, NC 11.9 39.3 32.3 26.9 -5.4
Edgecombe, NC 10.7 37.2 +36.2 +32.2 -4.0
San Patricio, TX 14.8 41.0 -20.7 -24.0 -3.3
Kings, CA 12.5 34.5 -14.9 -17.4 -2.5
Maverick, TX 12.1 3.1 +58.1 +55.8 -2.3
Tulare, CA 13.3 31.3 -15.0 -16.2 -1.2
Merced, CA 13.0 30.5 +8.7 +7.9 -0.8
Madera, CA 13.5 36.8 -17.1 -17.3 -0.2
Navajo, AZ 14.5 43.0 -7.8 -7.9 -0.1
Lea County, NM 12.6 40.6 -49.8 -48.3 +1.5
Apache, AZ 10.1 19.6 +34.3 +36.9 +2.6
Yuma, AZ 14.0 34.0 -12.6 -5.5 7.1
Ector, TX 14.3 38.3 -48.9 -40.6 +8.3
Imperial, CA 13.4 13.0 +32.0 +41.8 +9.7

Counties shown have a population of at least 50,000. Less than 50 percent of residents are non-Hispanic whites and less than 15 percent of the age-25-and-older population has a bachelor’s degree or higher.

SOURCES: AMERICAN COMMUNITY SURVEY, U.S. ELECTION ATLAS, ABC NEWS

In short, it appears as though educational levels are the critical factor in predicting shifts in the vote between 2012 and 2016. You can come to that conclusion with a relatively simple analysis, like the one I’ve conducted above, or by using fancier methods. In a regression analysis at the county level, for instance, lower-income counties were no more likely to shift to Trump once you control for education levels.11 And although there’s more work to be done, these conclusions also appear to hold if you examine the data at a more granular level, like by precinct or among individual voters in panel surveys.

But although this finding is clear in a statistical sense, that doesn’t mean the interpretation of it is straightforward. It seems to me that there a number of competing hypotheses that are compatible with this evidence, some of which will be favored by conservatives and some by liberals:

  • Education levels may be a proxy for cultural hegemony. Academia, the news media and the arts and entertainment sectors are increasingly dominated by people with a liberal, multicultural worldview, and jobs in these sectors also almost always require college degrees. Trump’s campaign may have represented a backlash against these cultural elites.
  • Educational attainment may be a better indicator of long-term economic well-being than household incomes. Unionized jobs in the auto industry often pay reasonably well even if they don’t require college degrees, for instance, but they’re also potentially at risk of being shipped overseas or automated.
  • Education levels probably have some relationship with racial resentment, although the causality isn’t clear. The act of having attended college itself may be important, insofar as colleges and universities are often more diverse places than students’ hometowns. There’s more research to be done on how exposure to racial minorities affected white voters. For instance, did white voters who live in counties with large Hispanic populations shift toward Clinton or toward Trump?
  • Education levels have strong relationships with media-consumption habits, which may have been instrumental in deciding people’s votes, especially given the overall decline in trust in the news media.
  • Trump’s approach to the campaign — relying on emotional appeals while glossing over policy details — may have resonated more among people with lower education levels as compared with Clinton’s wonkier and more cerebral approach.

So data like this is really just a starting point for further research into the campaign. Nonetheless, the education gap is carving up the American electorate and toppling political coalitions that had been in place for many years.

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3 hours ago, Shabibilicious said:

  I think we would all agree, a classic home schooled child tends to do better academically, while a public schooled child tends to do better in social surroundings and people skills (OF COURSE THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS). All that said, it would be shortsighted to say the majority of the people who voted for Donald J. Trump have more than a simple K-12 public education.  

 

GO RV, then BV  

 

I guess if you call teen pregnancy, drugs, bullying, drugs and skipping school better social skills I guess you would be right.

I worked in a public school system for 20 years. ( not a teacher) I saw things I did not want my children going through.

As a parent we are to protect them until they are old enough to make decisions on their own, not send them into a cesspool and then cry because they turned out crappy. 

We home schooled our kids in an umbrella school that had plenty of good clean social functions.

If we could not go ourselves we both knew the kids would be safe and taken care of. 

I always told both of my girls I don't care if they are the smartest kids in school I just want them to be

polite, God fearing women when they grow up. We got more than we bargained for. They are smart, not on drugs, no out of wedlock pregnancies,

polite and courteous young women. Before you say we are the exception I know many other HS kids that fit that description. The exception to your scenario

are the HS parents who cheat and skate through because they are lazy and don't care about their kids education but don't want to take the time to be sure they go to school. 

 

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12 minutes ago, nstoolman1 said:

 

I guess if you call teen pregnancy, drugs, bullying, drugs and skipping school better social skills I guess you would be right.

I worked in a public school system for 20 years. ( not a teacher) I saw things I did not want my children going through.

As a parent we are to protect them until they are old enough to make decisions on their own, not send them into a cesspool and then cry because they turned out crappy. 

We home schooled our kids in an umbrella school that had plenty of good clean social functions.

If we could not go ourselves we both knew the kids would be safe and taken care of. 

I always told both of my girls I don't care if they are the smartest kids in school I just want them to be

polite, God fearing women when they grow up. We got more than we bargained for. They are smart, not on drugs, no out of wedlock pregnancies,

polite and courteous young women. Before you say we are the exception I know many other HS kids that fit that description. The exception to your scenario

are the HS parents who cheat and skate through because they are lazy and don't care about their kids education but don't want to take the time to be sure they go to school. 

 

 

Thus the ALL CAPS disclaimer I put in there just for you, because you mentioned your children's home schooling before.  My son on the other hand went to a public school, then private mennonite university, has a MBA and is a productive millenial in today's society.....Good parenting is the key.  With your opening statement, I was a little surprised you didn't put the Trump spin on it and add "and some public school students, I assume, are good"....maybe you left that out on purpose and actually believe a public school educated child can't grow to be a polite, hard working, smart productive person in their adult selves.  :shrug:

 

GO RV, then BV

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34 minutes ago, Shabibilicious said:

 

 I was a little surprised you didn't put the Trump spin on it and add "and some public school students, I assume, are good"....maybe you left that out on purpose and actually believe a public school educated child can't grow to be a polite, hard working, smart productive person in their adult selves.  :shrug:

 

GO RV, then BV

 

 

I don't or won't presume what Trump would say. 

I did not feel it was necessary to infer that there are good kids in public schools. I think that is a given.

Just like there are the rotten apples in private and home schools. 

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