Trump Haters Thread

[umbertino]

 

Which makes a few of us wonder (probably most here do have no doubt about the answer, in that they do have their strong convictions, whatever they might be, which is a good thing)

 

God  is right-wing or left wing or no wing? I do have my opinion on that as surely everybody else......

 

Worth another thread?

[bostonangler]

26 minutes ago, umbertino said:

God  is right-wing or left wing or no wing?

 

Yup

 

B/A

[Synopsis]

8 hours ago, coorslite21 said:

Perhaps you 3 have missed the point......many threads go from discussion on anything, to bashing Trump....just like the MSM.....

 

Thank You, CoorsLite21, for interating/reiterating the premise/reason for THIS thread!!! 

 

Not to excuse my response in any respect whereas giving a basis for my reasoning and sentiments (for/against) regarding ANY particular issue, person, AND/OR group of people ideologically aligned or otherwise is far more important than than a visceral display of imaginary “attack” on “self”.

 

Founding Principles as recorded AND previously adhered to should be, as I believe, admired AND looked up to, aspired to, AND lived out for perpetual Life, Liberty, AND The Pursuit Of Happiness for We The People.

 

I did NOT make up the Founding Principles as CLEARLY noted whereas ANY personal interpretation of such is LIMITED for personal application to ELIMINATE the senseless “contests” sans Reason AND Common Sense.

 

NO Government, Individual, Elected OR Appointed Entity, OR contrary/subversive ideology will wrest the Founding Principles from my psyche OR soul whereas social discourse is ONLY possible from a common basis if the Founding Principles are referenced AND adhered to. I suspect MANY here at DinarVets believe AND feel the same.

 

So my attempt, albeit of potential limited efficacy, to diffuse streaming and profuse baseless visceral responses sans Reason AND Common Sense toward ANY Government, Individual, Group Of Individuals Ideologically Aligned OR Otherwise, OR Contrary/Subversive Ideology may NOT have been a perceived related  substantive approach.

 

Amos 3:3 New International Version (NIV)

3 Do two walk together
    unless they have agreed to do so?

 

Advocated AND Practiced Ideologies contrary to the Founding Principles, especially in contrast to the Founding Principles Adherents, are ENTIRELY incompatible AND divisive. Avoidance of open Social Conflict AND Civil War is DEPENDENT on universal adherence to the Founding Principles so Social Discourse on the basic Founding Principled by The Patriotic Citizens Of The United States Of America is imperative. Otherwise, Socialism AND/OR Similar Ideology, will utilize Personal Irresponsibility to advocate Divisiveness AND Anarchism. We should ALL be able to perceive historical AND contemporary sources of Divisiveness AND Anarchy OPPOSED to the Founding Principles AND act accordingly.

 

I suspect AND hope most here at DinarVets understand, believe, AND apply the Founding Principles.

 

No amount of Gold, Precious Metals, Crypto Currencies, AND/OR Personal Resources are of ANY value in a geo, socially, AND politically misaligned ideological region. Where will the goods OR medical services OR means come from ANYWHERE in the world? It used to be one could go somewhere ELSE in the world to enjoy the accommodations of the environs. Today, NOT so much.

 

There is NO such thing as Ideological Pluralism, apart from the Founding Principles, that will provide a basis for a way of life enjoyed in responsible AND peaceable environs.

 

I suspect most here would agree AND be able to identify relevant historical AND contemporary instances of dire consequences of imposition AND practice of Social Orders contrary to the Founding Principles.

 

So I, for one, reference AND side with the Founding Principles regardless of the contest.

 

I believe a SIGNIFICANT number of others here at DinarVets stand as well.

[Shabibilicious]

1 hour ago, Markinsa said:

36 But I tell you that every careless word that people speak, they shall give an accounting for it in the day of judgment.37 For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned.” - Matthew 12:36-37

 

Those verses seem to have fallen on deaf ears in today's society.....where PC is frowned upon and speaking one's mind with blatant disregard for others has become common place.  As always, just my opinion, no offense intended.

 

 

GO RV, then BV

[nstoolman1]

PC should be frowned upon(it is a restriction on the 1st A.  and the ability to speak without regard should be permitted.

What you left out is that when a person speaks their mind they should suffer or accept what 

consequences come back to them. The very basis of the 1st A protects that right.

Thinking of the consequences (good or bad) should come first before opening the mouth. 

[Shabibilicious]

1 minute ago, nstoolman1 said:

PC should be frowned upon(it is a restriction on the 1st A.  and the ability to speak without regard should be permitted.

What you left out is that when a person speaks their mind they should suffer or accept what 

consequences come back to them. The very basis of the 1st A protects that right.

Thinking of the consequences (good or bad) should come first before opening the mouth. 

 

And this is why I push back on Trump's vile mouth.....and live with the consequences.  Life was simply better when people treated others like they wished to be treated themselves, that's all.

 

GO RV, then BV

[nstoolman1]

People, no negs is the rule.

If you absolutely can not stand what is written in a post, or poster, then simply ignore the post or poster and move on.  

[umbertino]

2 hours ago, Shabibilicious said:

 

And this is why I push back on Trump's vile mouth.....and live with the consequences.  Life was simply better when people treated others like they wished to be treated themselves, that's all.

 

GO RV, then BV

 

Someone disrespectd the rule and negged you, Shabs......Now.....Investigation and.....Guillotine!!!!

Edited February 15, 2019 by umbertino

[umbertino]

17 minutes ago, nstoolman1 said:

People, no negs is the rule.

If you absolutely can not stand what is written in a post, or poster, then simply ignore the post or poster and move on.  

 

 

 

Right, right, right  you are, nstoolman.........Take note, Folks

[adhoc10]

On 2/14/2019 at 8:15 AM, coorslite21 said:

turning them into debates on the Evil President Trump......

I wouldn't label Trump so much as evil, rather as a defective human being that operates without the benefit of a moral compass. Bless his heart!😂

since there is a proliferation of fake, made up and media biased inormation and a strong sense of denial by all groups whose belief systems overrule their ability to accept any information that doesn't adhere to their narrow perspective of what may or may not constitute a reality that is conflicted with their personal,made up world.. It would seem a fool's errand to debate about anything in the  this age of Trump. No matterwhat your personal perspective, something that is true no matter your philosophical persuasion,   as the saying goes  'And this too shall pass!!"

 

for many of us soon could  bring satisfaction on   multiple levels...

go robert murller  yaeah!

go demcratic cobntrolled congress  go for tax evasion charges

and shame for  spending billions on a wall at the expense of our troops and their families

 

[Pitcher]

11 minutes ago, adhoc10 said:

I wouldn't label Trump so much as evil, rather as a defective human being that operates without the benefit of a moral compass. Bless his heart!😂

since there is a proliferation of fake, made up and media biased inormation and a strong sense of denial by all groups whose belief systems overrule their ability to accept any information that doesn't adhere to their narrow perspective of what may or may not constitute a reality that is conflicted with their personal,made up world.. It would seem a fool's errand to debate about anything in the  this age of Trump. No matterwhat your personal perspective, something that is true no matter your philosophical persuasion,   as the saying goes  'And this too shall pass!!"

 

for many of us soon could  bring satisfaction on   multiple levels...

go robert murller  yaeah!

go demcratic cobntrolled congress  go for tax evasion charges

and shame for  spending billions on a wall at the expense of our troops and their families

 

Great advice, I used the same logic to get through the previous 2 Presidents.  Be careful what you wish for because in 2024 you may have AOC as your President. 

[bostonangler]

13 minutes ago, Pitcher said:

 

Great advice, I used the same logic to get through the previous 2 Presidents.  Be careful what you wish for because in 2024 you may have AOC as your President. 

 

I don't see it.. Most people are still somewhat moderate... I think people are becoming tired with the extremist on both sides...

 

B/A

[Shabibilicious]

57 minutes ago, Pitcher said:

 

Great advice, I used the same logic to get through the previous 2 Presidents.  Be careful what you wish for because in 2024 you may have AOC as your President. 

 

Doubt it.....I think most people now know what they'll get if they vote for a loud mouth, hot head with the best words.

 

GO RV, then BV

[Pitcher]

Well you are in the right thread to spew your hatred. Get it all off your chest, you’ll feel better for now.  

[Pitcher]

BA I hope you are correct. 

[umbertino]

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Life was simply better when people treated others like they wished to be treated themselves, that's all.

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Exactly, Shabs.....

 

And that sounds like a dream nowadays....Unfortunately......All over the world....

[umbertino]

2 hours ago, adhoc10 said:

I wouldn't label Trump so much as evil, rather as a defective human being that operates without the benefit of a moral compass. Bless his heart!😂

since there is a proliferation of fake, made up and media biased inormation and a strong sense of denial by all groups whose belief systems overrule their ability to accept any information that doesn't adhere to their narrow perspective of what may or may not constitute a reality that is conflicted with their personal,made up world.. It would seem a fool's errand to debate about anything in the  this age of Trump. No matterwhat your personal perspective, something that is true no matter your philosophical persuasion,   as the saying goes  'And this too shall pass!!"

 

for many of us soon could  bring satisfaction on   multiple levels...

go robert murller  yaeah!

go demcratic cobntrolled congress  go for tax evasion charges

and shame for  spending billions on a wall at the expense of our troops and their families

 

 

 

 

Hello adhoc10....

 

Wishing you & your Family a great weekend.....

 

Best

[bostonangler]

Hey has Trump lied yet today? I haven't had time to check the news. LOL

 

B/A

[nstoolman1]

56 minutes ago, bostonangler said:

Hey has Trump lied yet today? I haven't had time to check the news. LOL

 

B/A

 

Have you?    

[jg1]

On 2/14/2019 at 6:19 AM, coorslite21 said:

I'll even start......I think Trumps hair is really ugly!     CL

I disagree. Its a beutiful weave. Its when he really gets into one of his speaches and he inhales with that high pitch hissing sound I hate. His politics, I love though. 

[bostonangler]

5 minutes ago, nstoolman1 said:

 

Have you?    

 

Nope... It's not my way of life to be a liar. This guy lies for the fun of it. It amazes me that a guy like you, who obviously has integrity doesn't expect better from his president... Our whole society is quickly going down the road of the Romans and we know how that ended.

 

B/A

[nstoolman1]

We are all liars to some degree. We have all lied about something. 

I expect a lot better from a lot of people and I get disappointed all the time. 

I don't control or have any influence over POTUS but I do vote. 

I also believe that God is in control of the matter and He has a better grip on this than I.

I have enough trouble keeping my herd of cats in a bag to get wound up about POTUS. 

 

[bostonangler]

2 minutes ago, nstoolman1 said:

We are all liars to some degree. We have all lied about something. 

I expect a lot better from a lot of people and I get disappointed all the time. 

I don't control or have any influence over POTUS but I do vote. 

I also believe that God is in control of the matter and He has a better grip on this than I.

I have enough trouble keeping my herd of cats in a bag to get wound up about POTUS. 

 

 

You are funny... Herding cats... That's classic.

 

B/A

[bostonangler]

Ex-RNC Chair Michael Steele Warns GOP On Trump's Emergency: You Will Rue This

Former Republican National Committee chair Michael Steele is calling out his own party for enabling President Donald Trump’s reported plan to declare a national emergency to get funding for his border wall.

“At the end of the day, this is something Republicans will rue,” Steele said on MSNBC’s “MTP Daily” on Thursday. 

Steele warned that once Trump declares an emergency to get funding for his wall, a future Democratic president will be able to do the same for any number of other issues. 

“If any aspect of this is allowed to stand, they have no credence, no authority to criticize any Democratic president who stands up and says, ‘There’s a national emergency on guns and I’m hereby limiting the sale of future arms in this country,’” he said. 

Indeed, later in the day, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) hinted at exactly that. 

“You want to talk about a national emergency?” she said. “Let’s talk about today, the one-year anniversary of another manifestation of the epidemic of gun violence in America. That’s a national emergency.” 

NBC News political correspondent Heidi Przybyla also pointed out that Republicans frequently criticized former President Barack Obama for his use of executive orders. 

“This is that on steroids,” she said. “This couldn’t even pass the Fox News test. You had commentators on Fox News warning the president against doing this.” 

Steele also slammed Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) for “taking his 30 pieces of silver” ― a reference to Judas’ betrayal of Jesus Christ ― in supporting Trump’s declaration. 

https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/ex-rnc-chair-michael-steele-051306136.html

 

 

B/A

[coorslite21]

25 minutes ago, bostonangler said:

Ex-RNC Chair Michael Steele Warns GOP On Trump's Emergency: You Will Rue This

Former Republican National Committee chair Michael Steele is calling out his own party for enabling President Donald Trump’s reported plan to declare a national emergency to get funding for his border wall.

“At the end of the day, this is something Republicans will rue,” Steele said on MSNBC’s “MTP Daily” on Thursday. 

Steele warned that once Trump declares an emergency to get funding for his wall, a future Democratic president will be able to do the same for any number of other issues. 

“If any aspect of this is allowed to stand, they have no credence, no authority to criticize any Democratic president who stands up and says, ‘There’s a national emergency on guns and I’m hereby limiting the sale of future arms in this country,’” he said. 

Indeed, later in the day, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) hinted at exactly that. 

“You want to talk about a national emergency?” she said. “Let’s talk about today, the one-year anniversary of another manifestation of the epidemic of gun violence in America. That’s a national emergency.” 

NBC News political correspondent Heidi Przybyla also pointed out that Republicans frequently criticized former President Barack Obama for his use of executive orders. 

“This is that on steroids,” she said. “This couldn’t even pass the Fox News test. You had commentators on Fox News warning the president against doing this.” 

Steele also slammed Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) for “taking his 30 pieces of silver” ― a reference to Judas’ betrayal of Jesus Christ ― in supporting Trump’s declaration. 

https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/ex-rnc-chair-michael-steele-051306136.html

 

 

B/A

I doubt this hurts anything...Dysfunctional Govt. doesn't seem capable right now of making any decisions other than down Party lines....let the courts make a determination based on the rule of law.....CL