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3 minutes ago, jg1 said:

On the news this morning locally I heard Trump was way behind Biden in the polls. lol

 

Only by 10%........not by 99% like with Hillarious.   :cisole:

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2 hours ago, Shabibilicious said:

The mystical Trump cloud...created by residual chemtrails, no doubt.  😎

 

GO RV, then BV

 

 

GOD the CREATOR uses whatever is available to accomplish what he needs. 

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17 minutes ago, jg1 said:

On the news this morning locally I heard Trump was way behind Biden in the polls. lol

 

I read that yesterday and would think it is more misinformation to discourage Trump Supporters much the same as was being reported back during the lead up to the 2016 Election.

 

Trump was supposedly always way behind clinton in the polls and had zero Chance of Winning anything.....Look what happened back then.

 

Today just looks at the Rallies between Biden and POTUS Trump.

 

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Just saying, these polling numbers are from Real Clear Politics and they represent this same week in 2016

 

 

Quinnipiac 6/21 - 6/27 42 40 Clinton +2
Pew 6/15 - 6/26 51 42 Clinton +9
ABC/WP 6/20 - 6/23 51 39 Clinton +12
NBC/WSJ 6/19 - 6/23 46 41 Clinton +5
Rasmussen 6/20 - 6/21 44 39 Clinton +5
Reuters 6/18 - 6/22 44 34 Clinton +10
Economist 6/18 - 6/20 43 39 Clinton +4
CNN/ORC 6/16 - 6/19 47 42 Clinton +5
Monmouth 6/15 - 6/19 49 41 Clinton +8
Gravis* 6/16
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Polls shmolls....Trump voters were hiding in the shadows in 2016 and no doubt the same will be true in 2020....embarrassment  will do that to a person.

 

GO RV, then BV

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Actually that group of voters in the shadows Shabs, have been hiding there for many elections, because in their opinion neither party offered a candidate they thought was worthy of their time and effort to get out and vote until the Trump came along.

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Just watched a friend in Orlando on FB live......spent the night at the Amway Arena.....

claimed "we are in the first 8,000!" You go girl !!!   :D

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15 hours ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said:

Just saying, these polling numbers are from Real Clear Politics and they represent this same week in 2016

 

 

Quinnipiac 6/21 - 6/27 42 40 Clinton +2
Pew 6/15 - 6/26 51 42 Clinton +9
ABC/WP 6/20 - 6/23 51 39 Clinton +12
NBC/WSJ 6/19 - 6/23 46 41 Clinton +5
Rasmussen 6/20 - 6/21 44 39 Clinton +5
Reuters 6/18 - 6/22 44 34 Clinton +10
Economist 6/18 - 6/20 43 39 Clinton +4
CNN/ORC 6/16 - 6/19 47 42 Clinton +5
Monmouth 6/15 - 6/19 49 41 Clinton +8
Gravis* 6/16

 

They were accurate... Remember, the popular vote did go to Clinton... Have you seen the new polls, they don't look much better. I don't think polls matter much this early, but it is interesting the president fired his pollsters because he didn't like the numbers... Sounds like some third world dictator, or something Kim would do... Well Kim would just kill them, so at least we haven't gotten to that point.

 

B/A

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35 minutes ago, md11fr8dawg said:

Actually that group of voters in the shadows Shabs, have been hiding there for many elections, because in their opinion neither party offered a candidate they thought was worthy of their time and effort to get out and vote until the Trump came along.

 

I've always been a believer that people have no business complaining about our government if they don't have the guts to vote.  As always, just my opinion.

 

GO RV, then BV

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59 minutes ago, bostonangler said:

 

They were accurate... Remember, the popular vote did go to Clinton... Have you seen the new polls, they don't look much better. I don't think polls matter much this early, but it is interesting the president fired his pollsters because he didn't like the numbers... Sounds like some third world dictator, or something Kim would do... Well Kim would just kill them, so at least we haven't gotten to that point.

 

B/A

I heard that he fired is pollsters for leaking an internal poll. And considering that they were leaked I'm inclined to believe that theory.

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4 minutes ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said:

I heard that he fired is pollsters for leaking an internal poll. And considering that they were leaked I'm inclined to believe that theory.

 

I agree with your idea, but let's be honest. We all know his ego can't take the possibility of being behind. I don't think many politicians can handle bad news, he is just the best one at showing displeasure.

 

B/A

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2 minutes ago, bostonangler said:

 

I agree with your idea, but let's be honest. We all know his ego can't take the possibility of being behind. I don't think many politicians can handle bad news, he is just the best one at showing displeasure.

 

B/A

I've always considered ego the number one qualification in modern-day politics. 

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Just now, ladyGrace'sDaddy said:

I've always considered ego the number one qualification in modern-day politics. 

 

It is all about ego... That maybe the biggest thing these people have. Good or bad...

 

B/A

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Just now, bostonangler said:

 

It is all about ego... That maybe the biggest thing these people have. Good or bad...

 

B/A

Yes,  and it is also the reason America is in the condition that it is in today. Politicians, in the beginning, were  Patriots they received no pay for their job, they did what they did for love of country. Today it is entirely different animal.

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1 minute ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said:

Yes,  and it is also the reason America is in the condition that it is in today. Politicians, in the beginning, were  Patriots they received no pay for their job, they did what they did for love of country. Today it is entirely different animal.

 

Yup and that is why I do not support a two party system... We need a third party more now than ever. People need to stand together against both parties and make them understand this is our country, not the country for outsiders and corporations... But that stand takes guts and most Americans just don't have the guts to stand up and shout... Look at the people in Hong Kong. They just changed the government with protests. Americans need to realize we are not enemies to each other, the enemy is the government,,, Just like our founding fathers who were willing to give up everything to fight the crown... Americans are fat, lazy and complacent and that is a recipe for defeat.

 

B/A

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7 minutes ago, bostonangler said:

... Americans are fat, lazy and complacent and that is a recipe for defeat.

 

B/A

 

I'm certainly fat....and somewhat lazy....but, complacent?...NEVERRRRR!  :eyebrows:

 

GO RV, then BV

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25 minutes ago, bostonangler said:

 

Yup and that is why I do not support system" rel="">support a two party system... We need a third party more now than ever. People need to stand together against both parties and make them understand this is our country, not the country for outsiders and corporations... But that stand takes guts and most Americans just don't have the guts to stand up and shout... Look at the people in Hong Kong. They just changed the government with protests. Americans need to realize we are not enemies to each other, the enemy is the government,,, Just like our founding fathers who were willing to give up everything to fight the crown... Americans are fat, lazy and complacent and that is a recipe for defeat.

 

B/A

I'm not sure any party is needed.  They all seem to evolve into a gang of corrupt individuals working together for their own cause and not ours.  Term limits would be a good start. Then again, I'm not really sure  what the solution is.   But a change is definitely needed! 

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Nees this a.m. indicated over 100,000 expected at Amway arena, SRO and cops ramping up for expected hecklers. 

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56 minutes ago, Sage449 said:

Nees this a.m. indicated over 100,000 expected at Amway arena, SRO and cops ramping up for expected hecklers. 

 

Wow!...100,000....that's a lot of hecklers.  :blink: ;)  Interesting that the Trump campaign would choose Amway Arena....Betsy DeVos must be trying to get back into his good graces.  :D  As always, just my opinion.

 

GO RV, then BV

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3 hours ago, Shabibilicious said:

 

I've always been a believer that people have no business complaining about our government if they don't have the guts to vote.  As always, just my opinion.

 

GO RV, then BV

 

Same applies in my Country where in the past  the percentage of voters was as high as 90%...Gradually ( cos folks have been and still are much disappointed by the average politician actions) that percentage got down to a 55-60% roughly... It's also a fact that here in Italy one doesn't have a large enough choice ( imho) in terms of valid parties and people to vote...

 

The sad moral for most voters is..."I'll vote for the least worse"

 

So even when a politician and a party gets many votes, it's only a part  of the vote percentage showing cos many didn't go vote ( which I do not like myself but I can somehow understand it when in your heart, soul and mind you find nothing to share with that specific party and/or politician)

 

 

In recent elections ( we have a lot here)...the Nat'l one of March 2018 and the last  EU election of May 2019 I chose to vote for a small group that , I felt, did represent my thoughts and ideas...Sadly enough ( for me and others) this little group didn't pass the minimum percentage of votes necessary for having any of its politicians in Italy and Europe.

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3 minutes ago, umbertino said:

."I'll vote for the least worse"

 

Yup that's what most people say these days... They vote against things...

 

B/A

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8 minutes ago, bostonangler said:

 

Yup that's what most people say these days... They vote against things...

 

B/A

 

Exactly B/A...

 

Sorry....finished by good ammo

 

 

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In recent elections ( we have a lot here)...the Nat'l one of March 2018 and the last  EU election of May 2019 I chose to vote for a small group that , I felt, did represent my thoughts and ideas...Sadly enough ( for me and others) this little group didn't pass the minimum percentage of votes necessary for having any of its politicians in Italy and Europe.

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Sometimes it becomes also a matter of principle  for me...In order to be able to look at myself in the mirror and not be ashamed....JMVHO

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Right now a rather big part of Italy is in love with Matteo Salvini and his League party ....Which thing I respect but do not share and never will...And I also do not like the other group in the Gov't with them , the 5 Star Movement

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Shabs you crack me up. What I get for being in a hurry. Selling 100,000 plus SRO tickets to see Trump. The hecklers and cops are on top of the 100K number. 🤪:peace:😁

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