cranman Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 I see there are a lot of passionate people here that are for and against the wall. Since we were all smart enough to invest in the dinar, let us use those smarts and put them to good use while we await our riches. I propose we come up with a proposal that would consist of both side compromising and coming to a deal that would end the shutdown and at the same time start steps to secure the border. If we can't achieve some sort of compromise at our level then we will see first hand how difficult it is to achieve it in congress. The ole saying "you have to give a little to get a little" has never been more relevant than at this time. Maybe this will go somewhere maybe it will go nowhere. Rules are: 1. No arguing, name calling or degrading of each others ideas. 2. If you aren't going to compromise then don't comment. 3. Debates are a wonderful thing to prove or disprove an idea. Refer to rule number 1 for conduct. 4. Use greenies for agree and rubys for dis agree as votes I'll try to keep an updated bullet point draft posted, to add to or take away from, as comments and votes come in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cranman Posted January 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 I would like to see the following: 1. An end to DACA with a date be given to the Mexican government in order to be disseminated to their people before they come to this country illegally. Todays date would be good. 2. Build a wall in the place most needed as Indicated by the Border Patrol. 3. Put in place, and enforce, a punishment for those aiding and abetting immigrants that came into the country illegally. 4. Put in place and enforce, a punishment for those hiring, and exploiting, illegal immigrants at their companies. Often the worker is being paid below minimum wage. no heath benefits ,and more than likely, unsafe work conditions. Nobody, ere legally or illegally should be taken advantage of that way. It also is aiding and abetting an illegal immigrant. 5. Provide funding, training, equipment and facilities to streamline the process of becoming a legal citizen and eliminate a backlog. 6. Reduce funding to countries where the immigrants are coming from to pay for the wall and Items referenced in line 5. Just a start. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karsten Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 Humm, Interesting concept and I will play along. #1. Start an investigation into where the 2006 Secure the Border Money went and why it was not used as thee bill stated. #2. Get the Money and Build the wall plus added security measures alone the Border, ports, airports for both Customs and Border Patrol. #3. Detailed background checks into ALL DACA Applicants (Any with a Criminal Back Ground are Out of Here) and not allowed back. #4. Time limit of say 6 months to 1 years for DACA Applicants to file papers for US Citizenship......Miss the dead line You are out of here. #5. More more Anchor Babies, Birth Right Citizenship. #6. No More Welfare, Free Health care, Social Security and Tax Refunds for Illegals. #7. Employers caught Hiring and Employing Illegals (1st Offense) will be fined $1000.00 per Employee....Payable within 90 days....Period. #8. Employers caught Hiring and Employing Illegals (2nd Offense will be fined $5000.00 per Employee...Payable within 90 Days #9. Employers caught Hiring and Employing Illegals (3rd Offense) Immediate Forfeiture of all Business assets, 1-5 years in prison. #10. Revoke all Drivers Licenses and end all Sanctuary cities, counties or states.....Arrest any and all Government and LEO that Refuse to Follow Federal Law. #11. Any and All Criminals currently serving Life and a Death Sentence for Crimes against Children Shall be Converted to the Death Penalty and the Sentence carried out within 30 days. #12. No More Tax Payer Funded Foreign Aid to Countries that either support Illegal Immigration, Condone or support Terrorism. #12. Start enforcing All Current Laws (within reason of some that were within 100 plus years ago)(Like no riding you elephant after dark on Sundays. #13. Enforce Firearms Background Checks.....You fill out the form and lie and are found to have a Criminal Record 1-5 years. Karsten 2 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cranman Posted January 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 I will add these to the list. Thank you! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cranman Posted January 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 1. An end to DACA with a date be given to the Mexican government in order to be disseminated to their people before they come to this country illegally. Todays date would be good. 2. Build a wall in the place most needed as Indicated by the Border Patrol. 3. Put in place, and enforce, a punishment for those aiding and abetting immigrants that came into the country illegally. 4. Put in place and enforce, a punishment for those hiring, and exploiting, illegal immigrants at their companies. Often the worker is being paid below minimum wage. no heath benefits ,and more than likely, unsafe work conditions. Nobody, ere legally or illegally should be taken advantage of that way. It also is aiding and abetting an illegal immigrant. 5. Provide funding, training, equipment and facilities to streamline the process of becoming a legal citizen and eliminate a backlog. 6. Reduce funding to countries where the immigrants are coming from to pay for the wall and Items referenced in line 5 7. Start an investigation into where the 2006 Secure the Border Money went and why it was not used as thee bill stated. 8. Get the Money and Build the wall plus added security measures along the Border, ports, airports for both Customs and Border Patrol. 9. Detailed background checks into ALL DACA Applicants (Any with a Criminal Back Ground are Out of Here) and not allowed back. 10. Time limit of say 6 months to 1 years for DACA Applicants to file papers for US Citizenship......Miss the dead line You are out of here. 11. More more Anchor Babies, Birth Right Citizenship. 12. No More Welfare, Free Health care, Social Security and Tax Refunds for Illegals. 13. Employers caught Hiring and Employing Illegals (1st Offense) will be fined $1000.00 per Employee....Payable within 90 days....Period. 14. Employers caught Hiring and Employing Illegals (2nd Offense will be fined $5000.00 per Employee...Payable within 90 Days 15. Employers caught Hiring and Employing Illegals (3rd Offense) Immediate Forfeiture of all Business assets, 1-5 years in prison. 16. Revoke all Drivers Licenses and end all Sanctuary cities, counties or states.....Arrest any and all Government and LEO that Refuse to Follow Federal Law. 17. Any and All Criminals currently serving Life and a Death Sentence for Crimes against Children Shall be Converted to the Death Penalty and the Sentence carried out within 30 days. 18. No More Tax Payer Funded Foreign Aid to Countries that either support system" rel="">support Illegal Immigration, Condone or support system" rel="">supportTerrorism. 19. Start enforcing All Current Laws (within reason of some that were within 100 plus years ago)(Like no riding you elephant after dark on Sundays. 20. Enforce Firearms Background Checks.....You fill out the form and lie and are found to have a Criminal Record 1-5 years. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nstoolman1 Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 This list is all fine but you all forget who we all are dealing with. The same group that brought us " Pass it then read it." They will agree to the money and even half the list. Potus will say o.k. The shutdown will end. Then instead of enacting the bills and passing them, the Dems will stall and claim POTUS is weak. This is what compromise means to the Democratic Party. Take and no give. Mr. President... Do your job. Enforce the laws Congress passed. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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