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Trump vs Democrats, National Emergency At The Mexican Border


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On 1/12/2019 at 11:16 AM, bigwave said:

My little sister got shot in the head dead by one someone slipping across the border.

 

He needed a "tear drop."

 

The cops got him several weeks later.

 

The Judge gave him 7 years  saying :"The defendant did not know her when he shot her."

 

You have no idea at all until you live it.

 

WE the People Need a wall.

Thanks for sharing BW ! I have never experienced anything like that and for your family I"m truly sorry , throw in all the drugs and I can guaranty there is not one family in the entire USA that hasn't been affected by illegal aliens. BUILD THE WALL !!!

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2 minutes ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said:

Yes! I think it's hilarious and tragic that anyone as intelligent as you would think a thing about him like that.

 

Just as I think it's tragic that anyone as intelligent as you would give him a pass for his continued vile language and actions against fellow human beings.  He's supposed to be the standard bearer....and no matter what anybody says, he's supposed to be a role model for our children, a position that comes with the office he holds.  I find it hard to believe any person would teach their children to do and say as Donald Trump does.  As always, just my rational opinion.  ;)

 

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42 minutes ago, Shabibilicious said:

 

Just as I think it's tragic that anyone as intelligent as you would give him a pass for his continued vile language and actions against fellow human beings.  He's supposed to be the standard bearer....and no matter what anybody says, he's supposed to be a role model for our children, a position that comes with the office he holds.  I find it hard to believe any person would teach their children to do and say as Donald Trump does.  As always, just my rational opinion.  ;)

 

GO RV, then BV

To my knowledge, President Trump's vile language and rude mannerisms hasn't killed one innocent American yet nor has he raped one innocent 14 year old girl yet. Again where's your real sympathy for them. I will take President Trump's rude attitude over your nonchalance of people suffering severe pain any day of the week.

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28 minutes ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said:

To my knowledge, President Trump's vile language and rude mannerisms hasn't killed one innocent American yet nor has he raped one innocent 14 year old girl yet. Again where's your real sympathy for them. I will take President Trump's rude attitude over your nonchalance of people suffering severe pain any day of the week.

 

To your knowledge......And it's interesting that you injected the word "yet" into your statement twice....as if you believe he has potential.  :huh: 

 

GO RV, then BV

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On 1/9/2019 at 3:44 PM, Shabibilicious said:

Let's be honest here......Trump's real "National Emergency" is his need to save face and satisfy his base, Hannity and Coulter included.  When he finally realizes that they are forcing his hand and he's no longer in control, he'll be pissed.  

 

And the Dems "National Emergency" is the need to thwart anything Trump wants, out of spite or retribution for his acerbic rhetoric that most of them have been on the receiving end of......as it seems most of them have not read The Art of the Deal.

 

Meantime....hundreds of thousands of Americans are furloughed and held hostage in the Trump shutdown.  As always, just my opinion.

 

GO RV, then BV  

https://tinyurl.com/yc5s8z3n

 

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The Texas Tribune is taking a yearlong look at the issues of border security and immigration. In this part of the project we look at how our insatiable demand for illegal drugs and cheap labor make the border less secure. Sign up to get story alerts.

Though it's illegal, brothers Israel and José Martinez have no shortage of work, moving from one construction job to the next in the ongoing building boom of Central Texas. They’ve worked on homes in affluent communities along the Upper Colorado River and renovated sprawling apartments in North Austin. They were on a crew that erected a new health center at a high-end retirement community, and as expert masons have built luxury pools, interior chimneys and backyard grilling stations.

Their compensation often falls below minimum wage. They might receive just $90 for a 14-hour workday, or about $6.42 an hour — and that’s when they do get paid. On more than a few occasions, the brothers have gone days, weeks and even months without receiving payment for their grueling labor.

In all their years in Texas, Israel and José — pseudonyms, since both asked that their real names not be published — have experienced a lot. One thing they say they haven’t seen: U.S. citizens doing the heavy lifting on construction projects.

“We’ve never seen any Americans carrying cement, picking up stone, working from sunup to sundown,” Israel said. “Never.”

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This is the economic and social reality in which the brothers, and millions of other unauthorized immigrants, find themselves — a country so reliant on cheap labor that substantial portions of the economy are built largely on the backs of immigrants willing to do work most Americans won't, and for lower pay.

The United States, and Texas in particular, has beefed up border security in recent years to keep immigrants out while paying less attention to one of the main factors drawing them here: There are almost always jobs waiting for them, even if securing and maintaining those jobs becomes a test of physical and emotional endurance.

Various loopholes, backdoors and private arrangements allow undocumented workers and their employers to skirt the prohibitions on hiring workers illegally. 

Workers pay hundreds of dollars for fake Social Security cards or other documents to show employers, or they work as independent contractors so they don't have to show any documents at all. Employers aren't required to verify the authenticity of documents they are shown or obligated to check the immigration status of independent contractors.

Many undocumented immigrants also find informal work paid in cash under the table, often at rates far below minimum wage, and the employer can pretend they were never hired.

Operating in the shadows of this clandestine labor market puts the workers in a vulnerable position: Yes, jobs are plentiful, but only in exchange for working long hours for low pay and little recourse against unscrupulous employers who cheat or exploit them.

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“It’s an underground railroad,” said José Manuel Santoyo, 24, who grew up undocumented in Corsicana where he said he never had trouble finding work. “Everybody where I grew up in Corsicana knew where to go find employment if they needed it and if they were undocumented. It’s a network of people that are wanting to help each other so that everybody can have jobs and opportunities. When you’re in survival mode, you’re willing to do any job.”

Santoyo says he worked at the Sonic Drive-In at the edge of town on Highway 287. He says he held jobs at McDonald’s, a pizza joint and the Home Depot distribution center before it relocated to South Dallas. He also worked for a few months one Christmas season at the famed Collin Street Bakery, a mainstay of Corsicana known for its fruitcakes.

“There’s always opportunities for undocumented labor,” Santoyo said.

Those opportunities are the very things on which the Martinez brothers pinned their hopes for a better future when they left their home in Mexico.

Sitting at their kitchen table beneath a painting of the Virgin of Guadalupe flanked on either side by the American and Mexican flags, the Martinez brothers recounted their perilous journey from Cuernavaca, Mexico, to Central Texas — a trek in which they endured the bitter cold of desert nights while dodging venomous snakes and malevolent strangers who prey on the multitudes of migrants headed to the United States in search of economic opportunity, safety or both.

“You can end up dead in the desert, and you’re walking with nothing more than God’s blessing,” said Israel, 34, speaking in Spanish. “We had to pay around $1,500 each to cross the river and bring us here.”

That river is the Rio Grande, which they crossed illegally to reach U.S. soil, and here is Austin, Texas, where the brothers, along with their father, have lived and worked since they arrived in 2004.

“The reason we came over here was because there’s almost no jobs available from where we’re from,” said Israel’s brother José, 38, who also spoke in Spanish. “And sometimes, if I do work, I still have to borrow more money to finish the week and eat. I then need to work extra time to pay for the money I borrowed, and then you get yourself stuck with debts, debts, debts. You cannot get out from there, so you need to find other alternatives. Here, sometimes employers don’t pay you and it’s hard, but it’s better than being in Mexico without a job and having debts.”

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MasonryBros.jpg Brothers Israel and José Martinez — pseudonyms, since they asked their real names not be published — have found plenty of work in the ongoing building boom of Central Texas, but they say they've repeatedly been cheated out of their pay.Miguel Alvarez for The Texas Tribune

Of the 11 million unauthorized immigrants in the United States, an estimated 8 million were working or looking for work as of 2014, according to a recent analysis by the Pew Research Center. In Texas, 1.1 million unauthorized immigrant workers made up 8.5 percent of the state’s total labor force, concentrated in industries like agriculture, hospitality and especially construction, where an estimated 25 percent of workers were unauthorized. Researchers at the Workers Defense Project and the University of Texas at Austin put that number even higher, finding that half of surveyed construction workers in Texas said they were undocumented.

It’s no surprise, then, that construction sites are where the Martinez brothers have spent most of their waking hours for the past 12 years. “You can find jobs quicker in construction over here because that’s the industry where they let [undocumented immigrants] work the most,” José said. His brother added, “When you already know how to do construction, it is easy to find jobs anywhere.”

But first they have to get past the laws that forbid their being hired. For many undocumented immigrants, that path forward is through fraudulent documents.

“The workers present false documents of the kind that the law requires the employer to inspect,” said Bill Beardall, executive director of the Equal Justice Center, a nonprofit law firm that represents low-wage workers, many of whom are undocumented, in employment rights disputes. “Now, the employers know this. The workers know this. The prohibition on hiring undocumented workers has stimulated the growth of that whole industry in creating false documents.”

It’s not always an easy decision to use fake documents, but for many, it’s the only path they see to earning a living.

“I had to work,” said Isabella, 33, who arrived in the United States when she was just five and says she got her first job at a Dallas Jack in the Box at age 16 to help her parents make ends meet.

“I just did whatever everyone else in my situation did,” she said. “There was a place in the Oak Cliff area that was well known to duplicate Social Security cards, and that’s how [I got the job]. I just invented a number, a random number, and I used my school ID.”

She didn’t want to lie — and break the law — to help her family, but, she said, “that was the only way I knew I could work.”

Isabella asked that her real name not be published for fear that public knowledge of her immigration status would affect her business as a real estate agent for a large Dallas-area firm, a position she can legally hold as a result of President Barack Obama’s 2012 executive order granting relief from deportation to young undocumented immigrants.

Fake documents are not cheap, especially for folks subsisting on substandard wages. They can cost anywhere from a few hundred dollars to nearly $1,000. But some undocumented immigrants pay a much steeper price for using fake papers.

Gerardo Vera was convicted of fraud after using someone else’s Social Security number to get a job at a New York restaurant. He served two years in U.S. prison and was deported to Mexico, but not before paying $5,000 for an attorney to fight the deportation order so he could instead be granted “voluntary” removal — an outcome that would allow him to eventually return to the United States. He did not prevail, despite his pleas to the judge.

“I told her I don’t have anyone here,” Vera said when interviewed in Matamoros, Mexico, after his deportation. “My entire family is over there.”

He said he didn’t know if he’d be able to rejoin his wife and children, as he would face even more prison time if caught trying again to illegally enter the United States.

 

Those who can’t get fake documents or who fear the legal repercussions of doing so are often hired completely off the books.

That’s how José Luis Zelaya, 29, got most of his work growing up in Houston.

“It wasn’t like I went to places and applied for jobs because I was always very afraid of using certain types of documentation because there was a fear that [immigration enforcement] would go after me or my mom,” said Zelaya, who fled poverty and violence in his home country of Honduras when he was 13.

Instead, he found informal work at a Mexican restaurant, earning $30 a day to work the door and run the register. He then moved on to mowing lawns, where his pay inched up to $40 a day.

“It was a humble job,” Zelaya said. “I was very proud of what I was doing, and I still am.”

Undocumented immigrants also find work as independent contractors — a common tactic in construction but by no means unique to that industry.

“The employer does not have an obligation to check the work authorization of someone that they engage as an independent contractor,” Beardall explained.

Hiring undocumented workers as independent contractors, or misclassifying them as contractors, he said, “not only enables you to evade overtime laws and minimum wage laws and workers comp but also holds at arm’s length any knowledge you’re supposed to check into about their immigration status.”

Complex subcontracting arrangements — in which the primary company on a project contracts work out to a second company, which then subcontracts to a third, and so on down to the individual workers — are a central practice of the construction industry. Subcontracting provides a way for general contractors to hire specialists in specific trades, like carpenters or electricians. But such arrangements also allow the companies at the top of the chain to circumvent responsibility for using undocumented labor or abuses that may occur further down, such as wage theft.

“Construction workers, especially those who are immigrants and especially those who are undocumented immigrants, are very vulnerable to not getting paid at all for their work after they've worked on a job,” Beardall said.

It’s a scenario the Martinez brothers know all too well.

In 2009, when they were working on the retirement community’s health center, the subcontractor who hired them stiffed them for what Israel said was $2,400 worth of work. They found out the subcontractor had already been paid but was holding out on them.

“There’s the boss, the supervisor, the contractor and the worker,” Israel said. “What he thought he could do was just to not pay us and keep the money the supervisor gave him.”

The Equal Justice Center took up the brothers’ case and filed a mechanic’s lien, a procedural device that can bring a halt to work at a site until a dispute can be resolved. They recovered what they were owed.

A similar thing happened the following year when the brothers and dozens of other workers were renovating and adding stone to the exterior of a large apartment complex in North Austin. For weeks, their supervisor promised to pay them but never delivered. When the workers threatened to stop working, the supervisor threatened to call the police.

“We told him that he could do as he pleased but that he had to pay,” Israel said.

Through the help of their lawyer, and another mechanic’s lien, the brothers and 44 other workers recovered their wages.

In a sense, Israel and José have been lucky, despite frequently running into dishonest bosses intent on cheating them out of their pay. They continue to find work, and when they feel they’re being exploited, they move on to another job.

“We wake up early, we go to work, we work hard, and we come home to our families to make sure they have food and a roof over their heads,” Israel said. “We don’t come here to steal or take away jobs from anyone or kidnap people. We just want an opportunity to move forward.”

Some slightly more fortunate undocumented immigrants find the means to cobble together enough money to start their own businesses. After working years as a restaurant busser and server, sometimes for as little as $30 for 12-hour days, José Sic opened his own business.

“It is a soccer field, where families can come and have fun, come and play,” said Sic, 39, who hasn’t returned to his native Guatemala since he left in 1996.

JoseSic.jpg José Sic at his soccer field in Houston.Gabriel C. Pérez for The Texas Tribune

Though it’s illegal to employ undocumented immigrants like Sic, there’s nothing specifically barring him from operating a business. He rents the land for his soccer field and charges customers a small entrance fee.

“My goal is to buy the land,” he said. “[I’m] planning to make this better, bigger. I have a dream. I don't know, but for me this is just the beginning.”

It’s an uplifting sentiment, one shared by many undocumented immigrants striving to carve out their own niches in the American dream. But there’s a counterweight, a bitter truth that runs through the minds of all who entered this country illegally: The fear that at any moment they could be forcibly uprooted and sent back to the countries from where they came.

For Isabella, that fear didn’t come so much from working illegally. “I think I had more fear about driving without a license,” she said, remembering a time when she narrowly avoided arrest after getting pulled over on her way to work.

It was experiences like that — the day-in, day-out of being undocumented — that took an emotional toll on Isabella.

“It made me an introverted person,” she said. “I’m naturally shy. It kind of made me [feel embarrassed a lot of times for no reason], and I guess that was the root of it. And sometimes it would make me feel insecure with myself, that a lot of the things that I wanted were impossible.”

In a way, though, it made her stronger, she said. “It also helped me to be a fighter. I fought to have an education here in the state of Texas. I fought to be able to have a voice in this country.”

But the prospect that President-elect Donald Trump will follow through on some of his campaign promises means Isabella, and others who benefited from Obama’s relief from deportation, may be relegated once again to the shadows.

Trump has promised to repeal the executive action, known as Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, or DACA, within his first 100 days in office.

DACA recipient José Manuel Santoyo hasn’t been to his birth country of Mexico since he left in 2001. He is about to graduate from Southern Methodist University and intends to go into politics. But losing DACA would put that dream on hold.

“The United States is my home,” he said. “This is where I grew up, and this is where I want to be. This is where I want to build a career.”

That anxiety for what the future holds permeates beyond these young immigrants throughout the entire undocumented community.

“All my life, what I earned is here,” José Sic said. “If one day I'm going to be deported, I'm going to leave everything behind. I'm going to lose everything, but I [won’t] let being scared or afraid [take] that away from my mind to do what I want to do.”

https://www.texastribune.org/2016/12/16/undocumented-workers-finding-jobs-underground-econ/

 

Deep in the heart of Texas there seems to be a love of illegals... Where are all the patriots? Why aren't Texans storming their state house? Whose job is it to call out those who hire these people... Is your neighbor in the construction business?

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I wished I had not come to this area of DV . Since I’m here I m weighting in! That story about centeral Texas is BS! As a 7th generation Texan on the front lines of this war, there are several people on here that know nothing but DemoRat talking points! I could get the Mexicans to not only supply the labor , but give us the land to build a wall on , and on their side of the border! I would stop all transfer of money to Mexico! Stop all Americans from traveling to  Mexico and spending one dime in that $h!+hole! Anyone coming across that border I would build a camp in west Texas where it gets really hot in the day and cold at night! Anyone caught would go right there. I would bring in All trucking companies with 53’ Bull wagons and give everyone a ride to Brownsville or El Paso tell them you come back across that border again illegally,  you stay at the camp for 5 years and so forth People this war is coming to your neighborhood, just wait a little while. We have another 5 thousand people headed to theTexas borders  now, as I write this! I m sick of the rape ,theft ,assaults and murder that’s going on here! Just to mention a few of criminal activity that is going on! This is not made up  it’s true ! I’m an eye witness to the criminal activity that is taking place here, I am sick of it! I could go on but it is real folks! In closing this is what we were taught in Texas history class!  Right before Santa Ana was hung by The great Sam Houston , he told all the Texans that witnessed his hanging. Mexico would retake the whole south western part of the United States again without ever firing a shot! We all got a big ole belly laugh at that statement! Well just how funny is it NOW!! The drugs the criminal activity is true! I hate to admit it but there are so many subversives in our country now that we are in a every man for himself situation now! God bless you and your families in the coming days if President Trump is Not successful in this war! JMHO 

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