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3 minutes ago, yota691 said:

If you can't suppor t the wall, Then you suppor t the Illegals, Heroine, Human Trafficking, Murders. An you call yourself Independent...I call it..._-_-_-_...

 

Sorry, but building a wall is like 10,000 gun laws... It doesn't stop criminals. Like the billions on The War on Drugs... Drugs flow freely. I'm not for criminals or illegals. If you really want to stop them, stop hiring them. You know like Trump hires them? If they had no jobs to come to then they wouldn't be coming. But to stop the hiring you would have to penalize the companies and we know that will never happen. So go give your money to the Go Fund Me page, and then when the money disappears don't whine about it. I can't believe people are so easily conned over and over again...

 

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They don't all come for jobs.

 

They come to join the gangs & wreak havoc,

drop anchor babies, (which WE have to pay for),

rob, murder & maim US, and spread disease,

and over-burden our schools - denying OUR children a decent education

and - YOU're ilk's favourite past time...

SUCK OFF THE PUBLIC DOLE.

 

As far as hiring illegals -- 

YOU're ilk protects them with their kommie unions,

so companies will keep doing it.

 

Those kommie unions are one of THE premiere ways the demonrats

reach out to, USE and HOLD THEM HOSTAGE through "dues".

 

That's right - the left supports SLAVERY.

Right up your KKK-founding demonrat ilk's m.o.  <_<

 

They wouldn't keep coming if they didn't have protection in the LEFT's "sanctuary cities".

 

They wouldn't come if YOUR ilk quit setting them free after committing CRIMES against US.

 

And how dare you insult an America Patriot doing his part by offering to help US build a wall..?!

And insult US for joining him...?!  :angry:

 

You have reached an epic all-time low in your post this morning.

We'd say "Shame on you" - but know your ilk hasn't the capacity to feel shame,

as witnessed by your repeated, gross disregard for THE TRUTH & our Rule of Law. <_<

 

Your mind-set is as sick & diseased as the illegal interlopers you stick up for OVER OUR OWN CITIZENS !

 

TRAITOR. :angry:

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They don't all come for jobs.

 

They come to join the gangs & wreak havoc,

drop anchor babies, (which WE have to pay for),

rob, murder & maim US, and spread disease,

and over-burden our schools - denying OUR children a decent education

and - YOU're ilk's favourite past time...

SUCK OFF THE PUBLIC DOLE.

 

As far as hiring illegals -- 

YOU're ilk protects them with their kommie unions,

so companies will keep doing it.

 

Those kommie unions are one of THE premiere ways the demonrats

reach out to, USE and HOLD THEM HOSTAGE through "dues".

 

That's right - the left supports SLAVERY.

Right up your KKK-founding demonrat ilk's m.o.  <_<

 

They wouldn't keep coming if they didn't have protection in the LEFT's "sanctuary cities".

 

They wouldn't come if YOUR ilk quit setting them free after committing CRIMES against US.

 

And how dare you insult an America Patriot doing his part by offering to help US build a wall..?!

And insult US for joining him...?!  :angry:

 

You have reached an epic all-time low in your post this morning.

We'd say "Shame on you" - but know your ilk hasn't the capacity to feel shame,

as witnessed by your repeated, gross disregard for THE TRUTH & our Rule of Law. <_<

 

Your mind-set is as sick & diseased as the illegal interlopers you stick up for OVER OUR OWN CITIZENS !

 

TRAITOR. :angry:

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You are truly insane...

 

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Is THAT the best you've got to back up your completely irrational accusations,

vile hate, ignorant comments and accusatory defamation...?

 

If we were the American Hero & Patriot who has the Fund for The Wall account,

we'd be suing you for libel until you squawked. :angry:

 

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32 minutes ago, SgtFuryUSCZ said:

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They don't all come for jobs.

 

They come to join the gangs & wreak havoc,

drop anchor babies, (which WE have to pay for),

rob, murder & maim US, and spread disease,

and over-burden our schools - denying OUR children a decent education

and - YOU're ilk's favourite past time...

SUCK OFF THE PUBLIC DOLE.

 

As far as hiring illegals -- 

YOU're ilk protects them with their kommie unions,

so companies will keep doing it.

 

Those kommie unions are one of THE premiere ways the demonrats

reach out to, USE and HOLD THEM HOSTAGE through "dues".

 

That's right - the left supports SLAVERY.

Right up your KKK-founding demonrat ilk's m.o.  <_<

 

They wouldn't keep coming if they didn't have protection in the LEFT's "sanctuary cities".

 

They wouldn't come if YOUR ilk quit setting them free after committing CRIMES against US.

 

And how dare you insult an America Patriot doing his part by offering to help US build a wall..?!

And insult US for joining him...?!  :angry:

 

You have reached an epic all-time low in your post this morning.

We'd say "Shame on you" - but know your ilk hasn't the capacity to feel shame,

as witnessed by your repeated, gross disregard for THE TRUTH & our Rule of Law. <_<

 

Your mind-set is as sick & diseased as the illegal interlopers you stick up for OVER OUR OWN CITIZENS !

 

TRAITOR. :angry:

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Oh, your a "RACIST"!

Don't you know you're not allowed to speak the truth and I'm not sure about your skin color but if it's white you probably are since only whites can be racist. How dare you have The bravery and courage to speak up and speak other that what the brain washed have been taught! Aren't you afraid of being scorn, singled out, stopped from entering certain establishments? I was thrown off of Facebook for saying a lot less that's why I deleted my account. I spoke of people that are crossing the border illegally are criminals and criminals are separated from their children. That is considered hate speech. I am now making a correction to that statement. Our government are a bunch of criminals and enablers that use the poor as pawns in their scheme to retain power and control over the people. The poor are only trying to escape their corrupt governments that have acheived their goal allready; keep them poor and in control. 

 

It's a two party system the government and us.

Don't vote party lines.

 

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1 hour ago, jg1 said:

Oh, your a "RACIST"!

Don't you know you're not allowed to speak the truth and I'm not sure about your skin color but if it's white you probably are since only whites can be racist. How dare you have The bravery and courage to speak up and speak other that what the brain washed have been taught! Aren't you afraid of being scorn, singled out, stopped from entering certain establishments? I was thrown off of Facebook for saying a lot less that's why I deleted my account. I spoke of people that are crossing the border illegally are criminals and criminals are separated from their children. That is considered hate speech. I am now making a correction to that statement. Our government are a bunch of criminals and enablers that use the poor as pawns in their scheme to retain power and control over the people. The poor are only trying to escape their corrupt governments that have acheived their goal allready; keep them poor and in control. 

 

It's a two party system the government and us.

Don't vote party lines.

 

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Racist...?  :facepalm3:

Right...?! Nyuk, nyuk, nyuk !

   According to the kommie handbook -- WE ARE !  :lol: 

Even the one of US who is a 'woman of colour'...! :facepalm1:

 

 

P.S. If we voted "Party Line", we never would've voted for Trump.

He has far too many demoncrat friends....

Well, "friends" until he became The People's Choice...

 

Now, according to the screaming kommies, HE's the enemy of the people !

 

WOW !  Ya can't fix stupid !   :P

 

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Was your previous comment not geared towards the Congress, along the lines of Nancy's way of thinking? Not enough Of the Senate voted yes. So this is is Chucky's and the Dems shut down because they and their birbers, big business big dollar campaign donors want cheap labor in the form of undocumented immigrants. The opposite of what the lion share of Americans want. Why, because the lion share of Americans see that as long as this is left un-corrected their living wages won't ever raise. Then there is the drugs and slavery that pours into our country as well so shut it down. Stick to your guns Mr President.

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2 hours ago, SgtFuryUSCZ said:

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Racist...?  :facepalm3:

Right...?! Nyuk, nyuk, nyuk !

   According to the kommie handbook -- WE ARE !  :lol: 

Even the one of US who is a 'woman of colour'...! :facepalm1:

 

 

P.S. If we voted "Party Line", we never would've voted for Trump.

He has far too many demoncrat friends....

Well, "friends" until he became The People's Choice...

 

Now, according to the screaming kommies, HE's the enemy of the people !

 

WOW !  Ya can't fix stupid !   :P

 

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Nice. A person that gets sarcasm. Hmmm.

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6 hours ago, SgtFuryUSCZ said:

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Is THAT the best you've got to back up your completely irrational accusations,

vile hate, ignorant comments and accusatory defamation...?

 

If we were the American Hero & Patriot who has the Fund for The Wall account,

we'd be suing you for libel until you squawked. :angry:

 

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:salute:   :salute: !!!SgtFuryUSCZ!!! :salute:   :salute:

 

As usual, You BOTH are playing such MASTERFUL Chess with Liberal AND/OR Progressive Opponents WHO Play so "uneducated" AND "different"!!!

 

 

MAYBE the Liberal AND/OR Progressive Opponent Should:

 

 

BEFORE Step 2!!!

 

REMEMBER The Steps (:lmao:   :lmao:   :lmao:)

  1. Play Chess With A Liberal AND/OR Progressive.
  2. "Commence" "Active Cleaning".
  3. Allow "Sufficient Time" For "Liberal Self" AND/OR "Progressive Self" "Deep Preening".
  4. Repeat (Got To Step 1).

:salute:   :salute: !!!Carry On SgtFuryUSCZ!!! :salute:   :salute:

 

AND So On AND So Forth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

:salute:     :salute:     :salute:     :salute:     :salute:

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***///  Good one, SYN !  Nailed it ! :tiphat:

See what we're dealing with up in here...?  :facepalm3:

 

Seems we can never take off our Patriotic SuperHero Capes when evil like this continues to lurk

on every medium to undermine our Republic, MALIGN OUR HEROES & MILITARY and smack-talk

decency & Patriotism !  :eagle::salute:

 

We despise ignorant little tools for evil !  :angry:

Why, we oughtta.... :deadhorse:  One of these days, Alice

 

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1 hour ago, SgtFuryUSCZ said:

***///  Good one, SYN !  Nailed it ! :tiphat:

See what we're dealing with up in here...?  :facepalm3:

 

Seems we can never take off our Patriotic SuperHero Capes when evil like this continues to lurk

on every medium to undermine our Republic, MALIGN OUR HEROES & MILITARY and smack-talk

decency & Patriotism !  :eagle::salute:

 

We despise ignorant little tools for evil !  :angry:

Why, we oughtta.... :deadhorse:  One of these days, Alice

 

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HEAR!!! HEAR!!!

 

 

:salute:   :salute: !!!SgtFuryUSCZ!!! :salute:   :salute:

 

I am amazed at the EXCEPTIONAL High Quality of input the Both of You give here at DinarVets that probably pales in comparison to the acts of service elsewhere.

 

For THAT, I am VERY Grateful!!! :tiphat:   :tiphat:

 

I am perplexed by the propensity toward cognitive dissonance, transference neurosis, willful ignorance, AND tactical stupidity practiced by a seemingly relatively small but consistent group of posters.

 

:facepalm3:       :facepalm3:       :facepalm3:

 

Basically, it is NOT what the Government DOES for ME but MORE importantly what the Government DOES NOT DO for ME!!!

 

That is the whole principle behind Life, Liberty, AND The Pursuit Of Happiness.

 

Of course, Personal Acknowledgement, Personal Responsibility, AND Personal Ownership are IMPERATIVE to application of The Textual Cornerstones which are The Bible, The Constitution Of The United States Of America TO INCLUDE The Ratified Bill Of Rights, Blackstone English Common Law, AND The Magne Carte.

 

As such, one votes for the benefits AND consequences of THEIR OWN SELF WITHOUT the intrusion on ANOTHER as the highest yet most necessary form of Governance being Self Governance barring ANY Government.

 

So the Saul Alinsky "Useful Idiots" Ankle Biter Peanut Gallery Members of the Snowflake and Buttercup Idiot Brigade Volunteer Forces post THEIR cognitive dissonance, transference neurosis, willful ignorance, AND tactical stupidity in an attempt to obfuscate True The United States Of America Patriotism by promoting "centralized" thinking AND governance amounting to NOTHING MORE than THEIR PROVEN "inseparable" "safe space" "cognition" "connection" where Personal Acknowledgement, Personal Responsibility, AND Personal Ownership are HIGH CRIMES OF TREASON!!!

 

:facepalm3:       :facepalm3:       :facepalm3:

 

So, the Saul Alinsky "Useful Idiots" Ankle Biter Peanut Gallery Members of the Snowflake and Buttercup Idiot Brigade Volunteer Forces ATTACK ANY True The United States Of America Patriot AS an ICON that is actually serving within the official office by THE OATH making a tactical error that the ICON THEY have created is ACTUALLY wholly the direct PERSONAL PROVIDER AND DIRECTOR for ALL True The United States Of America Patriots.

 

:facepalm3:       :facepalm3:       :facepalm3:

 

The Division Of Powers was specifically created to serve "We The People" as PROTECTION NOT PROVISION.

 

So, elected AND appointed officials in whatever capacity AND serving within THAT capacity wholly observing The Constitution Of The United States Of America TO INCLUDE The Ratified Bill Of Rights is ALL THAT MATTERS including, especially, STAYING OUT OF MY MATTERS!!!

 

THAT REALLY frees things up for EVERYBODY TAXES AND ALL!!!

 

But, of course, the Saul Alinsky "Useful Idiots" Ankle Biter Peanut Gallery Members of the Snowflake and Buttercup Idiot Brigade Volunteer Forces ARE NOT FREE due to THEIR PROVEN "inseparable" "safe space" "cognition" "connection" by THEIR OWN CHOICE!!!

 

:facepalm3:       :facepalm3:       :facepalm3:

 

So, The True The United States Of America Patriots Soldier On AND Get Each Other's Sixes!!!

 

:salute:   :salute:   :salute:   :salute:   :salute:

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Trump warns Democrats: funding the wall or a long closure of the government

Trump warns Democrats: funding the wall or a long closure of the government

21 December 2018 04:33 PM
From: Ahmed Shawky

Direct: US President Donald Trump warned the members of the Democratic Party in the Senate not to vote for the funding of the separation wall with Mexico.

"Democrats who need their votes in the Senate will probably vote against the security of the border and the wall, although they know the importance of that," Bush said in a tweet via Twitter on Friday.

"If the Democrats do not vote, there will be a government closure that goes on for a very long time," Trump said. "People do not want to open borders and crime."

Trump said in another tweet that regardless of what is happening today in the Senate, Republicans in the House of Representatives must be proud of themselves, because they came to Washington from all over the world to vote for the security of the border and the wall while not one democracy voted yes, Large. 

The US president also added that the government is closed today unless Democrats vote for border security.

The US president has refused to sign the spending bill passed by the Senate to postpone the closure of the government until 8 February.

Trump wants the US Congress to support $ 5 billion in funding for the construction of the separation wall between the United States and Mexico.

 

 

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The longer the partial shut down remains in effect,

the greater chance we have of alotta dead wood from the previous 'administration' falling off the rolls.

 

Once the current Administration makes these Agencies realise they can run the ship with fewer rats,

Trump should begin ordering mass departmental cuts effective immediately.

 

As this gets underway -

he tells the democrats that the savings resulting from this action will pay for The Wall.

 

Then we'll see how fast Nancy-the-cadaver Pelosi & Chuckie-doll Schumer implode.

As Trump said - he'd take responsibility for it until THEY take The House.

 

So expect to see Trump indifferent about the shut down until 03JAN19.

 

Hey, Nancy & Chuckie... tick, tick, tick....

 

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RUSH:  Hi.  Welcome back, folks.  Rush Limbaugh, the EIB Network, and we are right here with you on Christmas Eve, all three busy broadcast hours, one of them already in the can.  And it’s a thrill to be here with you, a fun day.  Telephone number if you want to join us, 800-282-2882.  The email address, ElRushbo@eibnet.us.

A couple of people who are not Washington insiders have written an op-ed in the USA Today today. It prints out to four pages, and their basic point is that Trump is only gonna get this wall built if he does it using executive power, that the Congress is never gonna agree to it particularly when the Democrats come back and take control of the House.  It isn’t gonna happen.  They’re never gonna come to an agreement. They’re never gonna give Trump what he wants.

The last thing in the world they’re gonna do is give Trump what he wants while they’re in the middle of trying to bust up Trump’s base — and that is probably true.  Now, I think there would be a way to do it, but it would require shifting public blame for this in a majority sense or basis to the Democrats, who deserve it!  They’re the ones unwilling to capitulate and agree to border security.  It’s no more complicated than that.  They’re unwilling to participate in anything involving border security.

Not just a wall.  They’re unwilling to appropriate any money whatsoever for border security.  So you heard Trump float the idea that he could get money from the defense budget or elsewhere in the federal budget that the executive branch controls and build it that way.  And you’ve heard Chuck Schumer and other Democrats say, “He can’t do that!  He can’t spend money we have not earmarked.  He can’t spend money we have not appropriated.”  It simply isn’t true.

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There are all kinds of departments and bureaucracies and areas of the executive branch with unspent money, and Trump can go get whatever he needs from any of those different departments and allocate it, and he can get started building the wall, and he can do it constitutionally on the premise that he is engaging in an act of national security!  He is the executive.  He does not have some of the executive power; he has all of it!

It’s on that basis that if he really wanted to fire Mueller, he could!  If he wanted to fire anybody at the Department of Justice, he could.  He can fire anybody.  He is the only source of power.  It is not divided.  There isn’t a committee.  There’s not a board of directors.  He is the executive, and, as such, he alone has the full power of the executive branch.  And as long as he is executing those powers under the terms of the Constitution, there is nothing anybody can do to him!  The price he pays for blunders in this area is at the ballot box.

The price any president pays is political.

If using his executive power angers many people in the country to vote against him and his party, that’s the price he pays for doing it!  But it is not impeachable to act on behalf of national security according to the Constitution, which he is singularly allowed to do.  And if he believes that open borders are resulting in the infiltration of the country of all kinds of undesirables — including terrorists and gangs and whatever — then he is perfectly within his rights to go get money already allocated to the executive branch and build the wall.

So you question: Why doesn’t he do it?  Well, there are any number of answers to this.  One of the answers is that not everybody on his team is for him.  Not everybody on his team is for a wall.  Not everybody on his team believes in his ideas.  By “his team,” I mean in the administration, in the West Wing.  As we all know, there are people there who — to one degree or another since Trump was inaugurated — have attempted to undermine via leaks and sabotage.  It’s been one of the curious aspects to me, Trump’s staffing choices.

But, remember, to fill positions in Washington in an administration, executive branch, the odds are you’re gonna get some people from Washington.  Everybody in that town is a devotee to one degree or another of the swamp.  Trump has not brought in a bunch of full-fledged outsiders.  He’s got some people that are careerist Washingtonians, career government types. And I’m sure that he has chosen people he thinks can help him navigate the waters — he being an outsider — on the belief that they are on his team.

But I have no doubt, for example, that there are people on his staff… You know, the Drive-Bys are trying to tell you that I changed his mind on signing this continuing resolution.  The real truth is that there are people in his administration trying to get him to sign this thing with no deal for him.  There are people on his team that are telling him (because it’s the way they think) that getting a deal with Congress is the best thing you can do.

You know it as well as I do that many measures of success, when it comes to president and Congress — individual senators and congressmen and members of the House — is, “How much legislation did they pass? How many bills have their names on them?” This is just the way the town works.  It’s one of the many reasons Trump was elected to blow it up that it works this way.  My only point is, in staffing an administration — and it’s massive, folks.

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It’s so big, Trump doesn’t know them all.  He can’t possibly know everybody.  Now, in his immediate circle, yeah.  But you should take a tour.  You can’t, but you should take a tour through the West Wing.  You would not believe.  I don’t know what you think the West Wing is, which is where the Oval Office is and all the executive offices. They can’t put 5% of the people that work in the administration in the West Wing.

Across the street is the Old Executive Office Building, now called the Eisenhower Executive Office Building, and that’s not even big enough to house ’em all.  I mean, they’re everywhere.  And they’re all working through their superiors — and everybody has superiors — to try to influence the outcome of the administration.  Some try to protect Trump from himself, they think. Some try to advocate and help him.

But they’re all people who believe that the route to success is this old crossing the aisle, shaking hands, showing Washington works, compromise, process.  How many media people went bananas last week — we played the sound bites for you — when Trump announced that he was not gonna sign this thing, the CR, and that there was gonna be a shutdown? Remember A.B. Stoddard?  She went ballistic on Fox News, on you Bret Baier’s show.

She was beside herself!  She could barely speak because the president had rejected what?  Process and compromise.  Now, you and I both know that process and compromise in Washington equals Republicans caving and getting nothing and Democrats getting what they want.  And that’s what it is, and that’s what A.B. Stoddard was upset about.  (impression) “Trump should realize he’s got the losing position here.  That would be immature thing to do.

“Trump should realize he’s got nowhere to go on this, that he lost the House.  Trump should realize it! He should take what he should get, can get, and be thankful for it.” And when Trump didn’t do that — when he said, “Hell, no, not signing this thing.  Government shutdown” — and then starts trying to lay blame on the Democrats, they go apoplectic on the basis that Trump has rejected the way Washington works: Compromise and process.

Well, there are people advising Trump to do just what people like A.B. Stoddard wanted him to do.  “Take a deal, Mr. President!  Take $1.6 billion, take $2 billion and get as much as you can.”  But this is how we show people we are governing.  This is how we show people that we’re cooperating.  Well, that’s not what Trump was elected to do.  Trump was elected precisely to overwhelm and overcome this process because we always end up on the short end of the stick on it.

We have been fed up for years and years working under these concepts of process and compromise where we always end up losing and our politicians that cave into it are then praised to the hilt as mature. “They’re growing in office!” But we always end up losing somehow — legislatively or otherwise — to the Democrats.

Well, Trump has totally eschewed process and compromise now.  And his position is that until the Democrats are forthcoming with the amount of money he wants for border security, the government is gonna remain shut down. And so it is.

So now there are people who are thinking that this compromise is never gonna happen, meaning the Democrats are never, ever, particularly with control of the House only the January 3rd away, they’re never gonna cave. They don’t think Trump has any leverage and they think they have it all.

And they think if they can humiliate Trump that they might be able to cause some of you in Trump’s base to get frustrated, throw your hands up and give up and fade away and realize that you can’t beat the swamp and never, ever again vote for somebody like Trump who says that that’s what he’s going to do. That’s what they have at stake. And they’re so close to it in their minds that they can taste it.

Now, the Donald Trump of the campaign, what do you think he’d be doing right now? I tell you what I think he’d be doing. I think he would already have amassed a pile of money, unused, from other areas of the executive branch and the various budgets. And I think that he would have already started on the process of building the wall and that Congress would be going nuts like they are now, like they do anyway. The Democrats would be going absolutely bonkers, and the media would be going absolutely bonkers.

I saw that Dinesh D’Souza had a tweet where he thinks Trump ought to deliver a major address to the nation on the importance of immigration policy and trade policy, the importance of both those to national security and prosperity.

I like the idea of a national address. I don’t know the networks would give him the time, though, if he requested it. You know, they don’t have to. But a national address that’s written and promptered could explain what’s going on and why. Doing it during the break between Christmas and New Year’s might not get the largest audience.

We also had the acting chief of staff, Mick Mulvaney, was on I think Fox News over the weekend, one of the Sunday shows, and he said that Trump is willing to accept less money to build the wall. He said the new offer is between Trump’s $5.7 billion request and the $1.3 billion the Democrats are offering. Mulvaney said he’s waiting to hear back from Schumer, but he hasn’t heard anything.

**** Turban said that all we need is technology along the border like drones instead of some medieval wall. This is such caca. You will find walls around every important business or every important wealthy person’s estate, because they do work. This is absurd. This is just distracting.

This has now become — the Democrats, there are two things involved. Trump doesn’t get a win, and there isn’t gonna be anything done that would interrupt the flow of illegal immigrants to the United States because the Democrat Party wants them. The Democrat Party needs them and they’re not gonna agree to anything. So there isn’t gonna be an agreement here.

There’s going to be a showdown of power, executive branch power versus congressional power. And there are many people who think the president has the executive power to start building this wall with money that’s already been allocated in budgets that exist in the executive branch and he can and he does. There will be hell to pay.

I mean, if you think this is bad, the minute a wall’s construction has actually begun with money that Chuck Schumer and his gang don’t think they participated in allocating or appropriate, they go nuts and they start shouting and yelling “impeachment.” But the fact of the matter is — and the Washington swamp would be too. And I’m sure that there are people in the administration they do not want anything like that to happen, that they think the only way out of this is a negotiated settlement where nobody gets exactly what they want from both sides, just the usual way that these kinds of things end up being settled.

Does anybody remember, for example, how the 1995 budget deal was solved? Or any other government shutdown. Do any of you remember what happened to end them? I will wager you don’t. I will wager there’s not a one of you that remembers what happened to end any of those shutdowns. You’d have to go look it up. You’d have to Google it. You’d have to Wikipedia it. You’d have to do something to find out.

How did the shutdown 11 months ago, the Schumer shutdown over DACA, three day shutdown over DACA, how did that end? Do you remember? My point is nobody ever remembers these things anyway. They don’t remember how they end. This is time to take a stand on a premise that has existed since the Trump campaign. And it is border security. If you want to throw the wall in, go ahead and throw the wall in.

But I think it’s time to take a shot at breaking these people on this right now. I think it’s time to illustrate that the Democrats are acting like a bunch of spoiled brat little kids when it comes to an issue of national security and prosperity and the rule of law. Don’t forget here we’re talking about illegal immigration.

The message should continue to be it is the Democrats who do not want to fix this! It’s the Democrats who are saying “no”! It’s the Democrats who are the obstacle to border security or to reopening the government or whatever. It’s the Democrats who want no part of it. It’s the Democrats who are stopping things. It’s the Democrats who won’t cooperate. It’s the Democrats who won’t across the aisle. It’s the Democrats who won’t compromise.

All of this is true. All of this needs to be part of the messaging. It is the Democrats who are not interested in securing the southern border. It’s the Democrats who are acting like children. It’s the Democrats who are acting like spoiled brats. That is what needs to be illustrated and with every Republican signing on to this, that objective can be reached. It requires full-fledged support for the president and the premise which every Republican should sign on to.

I know people are quoting polling data, “42% of the American people don’t want a wall.” You’re gonna get polling data that backs up the Democrat during every controversial issue there is. You’re gonna get polling data that shows Republicans are in the minority on everything. Ignore it!

It’s the Democrats willing to damage the country rather than support the president. It’s the Democrats willing to put the country in great peril because they are refusing to shore up the border. It needs to be demonstrated. And to me this is a golden opportunity. Everything we want to do, everything we want to teach people about the Democrats and illustrate is right here on the table, and it’s already happening. We just need to be pointing it out each and every day

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RUSH:  So I checked the email during the break, and people are asking, “Rush, are you sure that Trump can go get unspent federal dollars somewhere and allocate it to whatever he wants?  I don’t know.  I’ve heard people saying that that’s not constitutional.”  Let me ask you all a question: Where did Barack Hussein O get his $150 billion, much of it in cash, to drop on the tarmac at Tehran International Airport in the midst of the Iran deal negotiations?

Where did that $150 billion come from?  Did Obama call his buddies at the Fed and say, “We need you to print me some money”?  Did Obama go to various federal agencies?  Did he go to the defense budget or did he go to a bunch of different places and get the money?  Where did he get cash?  Where do you get that much cash?  I think it was $8 billion in cash.  It may be $8 million, I forget.  But it was a hell of a lot.  Where did Obama get it?  And you’ll notice that nobody in Congress raised a stink about it.

Nobody in Congress said, “Mr. President, you can’t do that. We didn’t authorize it.  We didn’t appropriate it,” and even if somebody in Congress would have said that, Obama would have said (impression), “I can do it ’cause you can’t stop me and I know you won’t and I have the media on my side,” and it would have not changed.  What did we do when Obama said that?  Well, we shouted from the rooftops and we tried to tell everybody that this stunk and that Obama was lying to us about the deal. He gave $150 billion to the mullahs.

Now, it was also part of a prisoner release.  So some were saying that part of that money was a ransom payment.  The point is that Donald Trump can certainly go find federal money and start building the wall.  I’m just telling you that he’s probably got a lot of people in his own administration — and I don’t doubt his lawyers are telling him not to do it, either.  I think, in fact, if I may be so bold — and this may not be bold now.  I think other people have probably pointed it out.  But in the early days of the Mueller investigation, Trump’s Office of Legal Counsel…

The White House counsel. Not personal lawyers, but the White House Office of Legal Counsel, presidential lawyer, presidential adviser and so forth. I will bet you a dollar to a doughnut that almost all if not all, of those lawyers were telling Trump to not criticize Mueller, “Don’t be public. We’ll try to negotiate a deal. We’ll show we’re willing to compromise,” because they’re all Washington people.  They’re all… Their clients come and go, and presidents come and go.

But people that live in that town are gonna be there long after presidents come and go, and so their loyalties really are to a system.  Their loyalties really are to a set of circumstances that exist in the establishment inside the Beltway.  So that even Trump’s lawyers that he hired that ostensibly are there to advise him on how to prevail in things probably were preaching compromise.

They probably were preaching the standard things that lawyers tell clients, “Don’t criticize the prosecutor! “Don’t make ’em any angrier at you than they already are,” which I thought would be irrelevant.  They’re gonna be angry at Trump as long as he’s alive. But the point is, he didn’t have a whole bunch of Donald Trumps around him.  He’s had people around him trying to rein him in.  And I’m — don’t doubt that some of them have been acting on what they think are his best interests.

I mean, if you live and work in that town and if the coin of the realm in that town is compromise and process… Here. Just to repeat this, grab sound bite No. 23.  This A.B. Stoddard.  I referenced this earlier.  You may not have heard this last week.  It was last Thursday the Fox News Channel.  This was after Trump vetoed the budget and began the shutdown. Listen to this meltdown…

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STODDARD: The nation’s fourth graders know this is no way to run a lemonade stand. This is completely irresponsible. The markets are rattling on the prospect of a shutdown. The president time and again is contemptuous of process and of compromise. He doesn’t have 60 votes. He must compromise. He was all for a DACA deal. He refused to take it. He took four positions on the Goodlatte bill.

BAIER: I get it. I get it.

STODDARD: He refuses to do the hard work.

BAIER: If he listens to the Mark Meadows and the Jim Jordans and the other people on the House floor —

STODDARD: They don’t know what they’re talking about! This is political malpractice. They’re wrong!

RUSH: (impression) “They don’t know what the president… The — the — the congressional caucus there, the Freedom Caucus, they don’t know what they’re talking about! Anybody urging Trump to do anything than compromise doesn’t know what they’re talking about.  He doesn’t have 60 votes. That means he’s got to compromise.”  He doesn’t even… They don’t even need 60 votes for this!  If Mitch McConnell really wanted to act like the guy running the Senate and wanted to make the rules, they don’t even need 60 votes for this!

You and I know this!  But that’s not how the town thinks.  The town thinks, “We got these rules, and they’re sacrosanct, and we dare not touch them.”  But the Democrats always do.  Sometimes it comes back to bite ’em, but the Democrats will do whatever they have to do whenever to win.  We could fix this. Mitch McConnell could fix this so he doesn’t need 60 votes.  Now, it’s not just as simple as me saying it.  There’s a process, and it would require taking a lot of hits in the media.

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It would require taking a lot of incoming fire that they’re not used to talking about, not to degree that they were on this.  But you hear her. “Political malpractice.  The markets are reacting to this.  The president time and time again is contemptuous of process and compromise.”  My point to you is that I think a large number of people called his advisers (who surround him) believe exactly that.  And I think his first team of lawyers did via Mueller.  Maybe even the current crop of lawyers believes that way.

“Process and compromise.  It’s the coin of the realm. It’s the way it works here.” Well, that being the case, it’s one of the reasons why our side always ends up coming up short, which is why Trump was elected to kind of blow all of that up, which he is in the process of doing every which number of ways.  And it is causing the predictable meltdown reaction. Nobody should shy away from it because of the reaction.

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RUSH:  I need to make a correction, folks.  The Iranian deal was not $150 billion.  It was $1.7 billion.  It came out of something called the judgment fund.  There’s some aspect of this Iran deal, my memory is, that’s 150-something.  And I misspoke when I said $150 billion.  It’s $1.7 billion was the entire deal that Obama arranged to pay Iran in the middle of the negotiations on the Iranian deal. 

But then there were those pallets of cash that were delivered to the tarmac at Tehran international spaceport.  And I’m gonna have to track down that 150.  I know that there was a cash element here, and for some reason this figure of 150 is  being bandied about inside my deep, dark crevices of my fertile cranium, little gray cells. 

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RUSH: This whole Iran deal now has got me bugabooed here because I’ve used some figures here that I thought I knew were right. But I’ve been having people say, “No, no, no. It was this and it was that.” Everybody’s trying to be helpful. So I did a little search here in the top of the hour. I found a Breitbart story. The date of this story is not specified but it was a fact-check story, and the headline: Yes, the Nuclear Deal Hands $150 billion Over to Iran —

“During the opening statements on Sunday night’s presidential debate … Donald Trump described the Iran nuclear deal as a ‘one-sided transaction’ that would result in $150 billion returning to the coffers of … Iran.” So I’ve had that number going about my head, and I’ve used it. “No, Rush, it was $1.7 billion, and that was cash, and that was dropped on the tarmac. It came from the judgment fund, and it was part of a ransom payment for hostages and also part of the Iran deal.” Then another friend said, “No, the cash element, Rush, was $400 million.”

Well, that figure rang a bell, too! I said, “Okay, that makes sense.” So I finally said, “I need to go check this,” and the fact check says it’s mostly true on the premise that the nuclear deal hands $150 billion over to Iran, and much of that is from the unfreezing of Iranian assets that was part of the Iran deal. Lifting of sanctions and the unfreezing assets. I do remember that there’s something to that, ’cause I remember that there were so many American corporate entities that were in favor of it, in favor of the Iran deal.

I said, “Why in the world…? What possibly could explain this?” I said, “There has to be a reason,” and I looked and I found one explanation for it, and it was Boeing! Boeing was looking forward to Iranian sanctions being lifted because the Iranian national airline fleet was practically falling apart because of these sanctions. They hadn’t been able to import or pay for any modernized jets for airliner travel. The lifting of the sanctions would permit it! The Iranians were on the way to signing a contract with Boeing for $60 million, I think.

No, it’d be much more than that. I mean, that’s one plane. But it was a deal for Boeing to participate and compete against Airbus for purchases by Iran of modernized jet aircraft. The point is none of that could have happened unless Iran ended up being flush with money, and one of the ways it happened was the lifting of sanctions and the unfreezing of assets, and all of it totaled a $150 billion benefit — give or take a few billion. Now, the amount of money on the pallets was $1.7 billion.

It was cash. That’s a lot of cash. (chuckling) I don’t know where you go get that. There isn’t… I wonder how much cash there is in circulation the country at any one time. I mean, it is regulated, the amount of actual hard, cold cash that’s in circulation. It would shock you how little it is. Well, maybe it wouldn’t shock you, but it would shock you how little it is compared to the total gross national product, gross domestic product. The amount of cash in that is actually chump change because there’s so much credit and credit card usage.

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U.S. Border Patrol agents arrest illegal aliens attempting to enter the United States after crossing the Rio Grande River in McAllen, Texas on November 15, 2018. (Ozzy Trevino/U.S. Customs and Border Protection)
DECEMBER 24, 2018 LAURA WIDENER
 
 
 

Amid ongoing efforts to combat illegal immigration, the Border Patrol arrested four sex offenders and MS-13 gang members just last week.

In four separate incidents, U.S. Customs and Border Protection agents discovered and arrested two sex offenders and two MS-13 gang members in Arizona and Texas.

Border Patrol Snags More MS-13 Members, Convicted Sex Offenders Trying To Jump Border https://t.co/FcPgibsp6M

— National Police Association (@NatPoliceAssoc) December 24, 2018

 

Agents with Ajo Station, part of the Tucson Sector, arrested a 46-year-old Mexican native near Lukeville, Ariz. on Wednesday, according to a CBP release. Agents later learned that he was a convicted sex offender, with a 2002 charge involving a minor from Mesa, Ariz.

The next day, a 24-year-old El Salvador national was arrested by Nogales Station and later discovered to be a member of the MS-13 gang.

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DEMS INTRODUCED BILL REQUIRING MEXICO TO PAY FOR THE WALL, AND NO ONE SEEMS TO HAVE NOTICED

9:37 PM 12/27/2018 | POLITICS
Molly Prince | Politics Reporter
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Democratic Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee of Texas introduced legislation forbidding construction of a wall on the U.S.-Mexico border — unless Mexico pays for it.

Lee introduced the Protect American Taxpayers and Secure Border Act into the House on Dec. 19, which would “prohibit taxpayer funds from being used to build a wall between Mexico and the United States,” and further require that any barrier constructed on the southern border “be paid for using funds provided by the Government of Mexico.”

She referred the bill to the House Committee on the Judiciary and the Committee on Homeland Security, and already has four cosponsors: Democratic Reps. Karen Bass of California, Marcia Fudge of Ohio, Joaquin Castro of Texas and Yvette Clarke of New York.

The Texas congresswoman has remained largely silent on the proposed legislation, as have the bill’s other sponsors. (RELATED: The Government Lost Billions More Bailing Out GM Than The $5.7 Billion Request For Wall Funding)

However, only a day after the legislation was introduced, House Republicans passed a stopgap funding bill that included $5.7 billion appropriated for a border wall.

President Donald Trump argues about border security with Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi as VP Mike Pence sits nearby in the Oval Office (Mark Wilson/Getty Images)

President Donald Trump argues about border security with Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi as VP Mike Pence sits nearby in the Oval Office (Mark Wilson/Getty Images)

Senate Republicans are locked in a battle with their Democratic counterparts over the House-passed stopgap funding bill. With only a 51-seat majority, Republicans are short of the necessary 60 votes needed to send it to President Donald Trump’s desk for signing. Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer vowed to kill the legislation on arrival in the Senate, and consequently, a government shutdown has been in effect since funding expired Dec. 21.

Lee’s office did not immediately respond to The Daily Caller News Foundation’s request for comment.

https://dailycaller.com/2018/12/27/jackson-lee-border-wall-mexico/

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12 hours ago, SgtFuryUSCZ said:

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Democrats are great at keeping US Americans out of our National Parks & Monuments

during a PARTIAL shut down,

but can't / won't keep ILLEGALS out of our Country...?  <_<

 

Actually, Trump shut down the government PROUDLY.  They baited him and he took it....hook, line and sinker.  

 

 

GO RV, then BV

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12 hours ago, SgtFuryUSCZ said:

Democrats are great at keeping US Americans out of our National Parks & Monuments

during a PARTIAL shut down,

 

More Americans blame Trump for government shutdown: Reuters/Ipsos poll

Reuters By Chris Kahn and Ginger Gibson,Reuters 13 hours ago 

 

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By Chris Kahn and Ginger Gibson

NEW YORK/WASHINGTON (Reuters) - More Americans blame President Donald Trump than congressional Democrats for the partial U.S. government shutdown, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll released on Thursday, as the closure stretched into its sixth day with no end in sight.

Forty-seven percent of adults hold Trump responsible, while 33 percent blame Democrats in Congress, according to the Dec. 21-25 poll, conducted mostly after the shutdown began. Seven percent of Americans blamed congressional Republicans.

The shutdown was triggered by Trump's demand, largely opposed by Democrats and some lawmakers from his own Republican Party, that taxpayers provide him with $5 billion to help pay for a wall that he wants to build along the U.S.-Mexico border. Its total estimated cost is $23 billion.

Just 35 percent of those surveyed in the opinion poll said they backed including money for the wall in a congressional spending bill. Only 25 percent said they supported Trump shutting down the government over the matter.

In a statement on Thursday, White House spokeswoman Sarah Sanders said, "The president has made clear that any bill to fund the government must adequately fund border security."

The statement made no mention of Trump's proposed wall.

Showing little sense of urgency, both chambers of Congress convened for mere minutes late on Thursday, but neither took any action to end the shutdown before adjourning until next week.

Democrats and Republicans were still very far apart on resolving the impasse, said Senate Democratic leader Chuck Schumer's spokesman Justin Goodman in a statement.

Democratic Representative Jim McGovern tried to interrupt the brief Republican-run session in the House of Representatives by offering a measure to reopen shuttered government agencies and keep them running through Feb. 8. But he was ignored and his microphone was soon cut off. The House session lasted less than three minutes.

"That was a legitimate request and I should have been recognized," McGovern told reporters later. "They wouldn't even recognize me. This is the way they've been running this place."

SHUTDOWN CONTINUES

Inaction in Congress put the shutdown on track to continue into next week and possibly to drag well into January.

While its impact has been limited so far, partly due to holiday-season vacations underway for the 800,000 or so federal workers affected, that could change soon.

Government agencies began notifying the public on Thursday about service disruptions. The Federal Emergency Management Agency said the shutdown means it cannot process new flood insurance policies, possibly disrupting home sales.

The Office of Personnel Management, which oversees the federal workforce, offered advice to government employees on staving off creditors if paychecks lapse.

The wall dispute coincided with the expiration of funding for about 20 percent of the government. The remaining 80 percent is fully funded and is unaffected by the shutdown.

The departments of Homeland Security, Justice, Agriculture, Commerce, and other agencies, shut down "non-essential" operations on Saturday after a tentative funding deal collapsed over Trump's renewed insistence that wall funding be provided.

The House has approved a shutdown-ending spending measure that includes Trump's demand for $5 billion, but its prospects in the Senate are seen as poor.

The next firm action on the issue is likely to come on Jan. 3, when the Democrats take over majority control of the House. At that time, McGovern said, Democrats expect to offer a spending measure "plus probably disaster relief funding."

Speaking to reporters after the brief Senate session, Senator Pat Roberts said, "We on the Republican side do not want to vote for a bill the president won't sign."

'PROUD TO SHUT DOWN'

Trump argues that his wall is needed to stem illegal immigration and drugs entering the country - a key plank in his 2016 presidential campaign.

Earlier this month, he said he would be "proud to shut down the government" over wall funding. On Twitter, since the shutdown started, he has tried to blame the Democrats.

The Reuters/Ipsos poll was conducted online in English across the United States. It gathered responses from 2,440 adults, including 946 Democrats and 846 Republicans. It has a credibility interval, a measure of the poll's precision, of two percentage points for the entire sample and four points for members of either political party.

(Reporting by Chris Kahn in New York and Ginger Gibson in Washington; additional reporting by David Morgan, Makini Brice, Jason Lange; writing by Kevin Drawbaugh; editing by Alistair Bell, Grant McCool and Rosalba O'Brien)

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/more-americans-blame-trump-government-shutdown-reuters-ipsos-194706266--business.html

GO RV, then BV

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