Trump Vows To Send Millitary, Close Southern Border To Block Migrants

[Butifldrm]

Trump Vows To Send Millitary, Close Southern Border To Block Migrants

by Tyler Durden

Thu, 10/18/2018 - 07:57

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As another "migrant caravan" has swelled to more than 4,000 hopeful "asylum seekers" marching toward the US's southern border, recently prompting the Mexican government to dispatch 500 additional border guards to its border with Guatemala, President Trump threatened tosend in the military and close the US's southern border with Mexico in a tweet Thursday morning, after threatening to withhold aid from Honduras earlier in the week.

After bashing Democrats for pushing for "open borders" and Honduras and Guatemala for having "almost no control" over their populations, Trump demanded that Mexico "stop this onslaught" at the country's border with the US. If they fail, Trump threatened to ("in addition to stopping all payments to those countries") "call up the US Military and CLOSE OUR SOUTHERN BORDER!"

The new caravan, which began in the Honduran city of San Pedro Sula with 150 migrants, has swelled in size. It's the second caravan from Honduras this year. 

 

Trump added that "the assault on our country...including the Criminal elements and DRUGS pouring in, is far more important to me, as President, than Trade or USMCA," adding "hopefully Mexico will stop this onslaught" before declaring it's "all Democrats fault for weak laws!"

Donald J. Trump

 

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I am watching the Democrat Party led (because they want Open Borders and existing weak laws) assault on our country by Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador, whose leaders are doing little to stop this large flow of people, INCLUDING MANY CRIMINALS, from entering Mexico to U.S.....

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....In addition to stopping all payments to these countries, which seem to have almost no control over their population, I must, in the strongest of terms, ask Mexico to stop this onslaught - and if unable to do so I will call up the U.S. Military and CLOSE OUR SOUTHERN BORDER!..

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Donald J. Trump

 

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....The assault on our country at our Southern Border, including the Criminal elements and DRUGS pouring in, is far more important to me, as President, than Trade or the USMCA. Hopefully Mexico will stop this onslaught at their Northern Border. All Democrats fault for weak laws!

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It probably goes without saying that closing the southern border would be incredibly disruptive to trade between the US and Mexico, in addition to angering the most willing partner in the newly forged USMCA trade agreement. Then again, Trump is probably hoping that his staunch immigration stance will help galvanize his supporters to vote in the midterms, as reports about another migrant caravan have brought the immigration debate back to the forefront of the US political debate.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-10-18/trump-threatens-send-millitary-close-southern-border-migrant-caravan-approaches

 

[Butifldrm]

Trump threatens to call US military to close southern border as 4,000-strong migrant caravan pushes north

By Greg Norman | Fox News

 

Trump expands aid threat as caravan of migrants heads to US

President says no more money will be given to Honduras, Guatemala and El Salvador if the caravan is not stopped; William La Jeunesse reports on the march to America.

President Trump warned Thursday he will “call up the U.S. Military and CLOSE OUR SOUTHERN BORDER” with Mexico if officials there don’t stop the northward flow of a growing migrant caravan that's swelled in size to about 4,000 people.

The president’s latest threat against the caravan that originated in Honduras – and which is heading to the U.S. in a bid to escape Honduras’ poverty and violence – comes as Secretary of State Mike Pompeo is heading to Central America to talk with leaders about the issue.

“I am watching the Democrat Party led (because they want Open Borders and existing weak laws) assault on our country by Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador, whose leaders are doing little to stop this large flow of people, INCLUDING MANY CRIMINALS, from entering Mexico to U.S.,” Trump tweeted Thursday morning.

He added: “In addition to stopping all payments to these countries, which seem to have almost no control over their population, I must, in the strongest of terms, ask Mexico to stop this onslaught - and if unable to do so I will call up the U.S. Military and CLOSE OUR SOUTHERN BORDER!”

Donald J. Trump

 

✔@realDonaldTrump

 

 

....The assault on our country at our Southern Border, including the Criminal elements and DRUGS pouring in, is far more important to me, as President, than Trade or the USMCA. Hopefully Mexico will stop this onslaught at their Northern Border. All Democrats fault for weak laws!

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The caravan, estimated to contain around 4,000 people, is inching Thursday toward the Mexico-Guatemala border, where Mexican officials have sent 500 additional federal police officers ahead of its arrival, NBC News reported, citing U.S. government documents.

Mexico has said anyone with travel documents and the correct visa will be allowed to pass and others can apply for refugee status, but also warned that those who try to cross in an “irregular manner” could be detained and deported, according to the Associated Press.

The news agency added that none of the migrants it spoke to who are making the journey were carrying passports, signaling a looming showdown with Mexican border officials in the coming days.

Donald J. Trump

 

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....In addition to stopping all payments to these countries, which seem to have almost no control over their population, I must, in the strongest of terms, ask Mexico to stop this onslaught - and if unable to do so I will call up the U.S. Military and CLOSE OUR SOUTHERN BORDER!..

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Pompeo – fresh off of traveling to Saudi Arabia and Turkey for meetings over the disappearance of activist Jamal Khashoggi – is now heading to Panama City Thursday and Mexico City tomorrow.

He will meet with the presidents of both countries to “discuss our ongoing security cooperation efforts to disrupt the illicit movement of cash, weapons, drugs across our shared border as well as the issue of stemming illegal immigration and strengthening accountability for corruption and human rights abuses, and bringing members of transnational criminal organizations to justice,” a senior State Department official said.

The official also said the migrant caravan will be a “prominent” topic of discussion at those meetings.

“Certainly it’s an issue that we have viewed as a shared challenge and we continue to work closely with countries in the region to address the underlying economic, security, and governance conditions that have driven illegal immigration to the United States,” the official added.”

https://www.foxnews.com/us/trump-threatens-to-call-us-military-to-close-southern-border-as-4000-strong-migrant-caravan-pushes-north

[Shabibilicious]

Interesting how Trump said, "....and Honduras and Guatemala for having "almost no control" over their populations...".  What exactly does he mean by that?  Is he implying he has control over the population of the U.S.?  Do his supporters even listen to the lunacy that comes out of his mouth?  Borders are indeed meant to be controlled....people on the other hand, not so much.  The governments and persecution in those countries is what these people are running from.

 

GO RV, then BV

[yota691]

Rep. Matt Gaetz‏Verified account @RepMattGaetz

 

BREAKING: Footage in Honduras giving cash 2 women & children 2 join the caravan & storm the US border @ election time. Soros? US-backed NGOs? Time to investigate the source!

 

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[MyLadiesDaddy]

2 minutes ago, yota691 said:

Rep. Matt Gaetz‏Verified account @RepMattGaetz

 

 

BREAKING: Footage in Honduras giving cash 2 women & children 2 join the caravan & storm the US border @ election time. Soros? US-backed NGOs? Time to investigate the source!

 

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11:36 AM - 17 Oct 2018

Sure enough, I saw the video in my Twitter feed. Another Soros funded attack on American sovereignty. 

[yota691]

Mexican government sends federal police to intercept caravan of U.S.-bound migrants

David Agren, Special to USA TodayPublished 5:41 p.m. ET Oct. 17, 2018 | Updated 7:30 a.m. ET Oct. 18, 2018

     

 

(Photo: John Moore, Getty Images)

MEXICO CITY — The government of Mexico dispatched two 727 Boeing planes filled with federal police officers to its southern border with Guatemala on Wednesday to intercept a caravan of Central American migrants who are trying to reach the U.S. border.

The Interior and Foreign Relations ministries said in a joint statement that any migrant in the caravan without proper immigration papers would be arrested and “returned to their country of origin.” Those with proper documents or wishing to apply for asylum would be allowed to enter Mexico.

The caravan of migrants set out last week from San Pedro Sula, Honduras, which has long been one of the hemisphere's most violent cities with a murder rate ranking among the highest in the world.

The group of migrants swelled to an estimated 4,000 people even as President Donald Trump has condemned them and threatened to cut aid to Honduras if government officials do not cooperate in preventing their trip to the U.S.

 

"The United States has strongly informed the President of Honduras that if the large Caravan of people heading to the U.S. is not stopped and brought back to Honduras, no more money or aid will be given to Honduras, effective immediately!" Trump tweeted on Tuesday. 

He followed up Tuesday night with a similar threat, but added more Central American countries to his list. "We have today informed the countries of Honduras, Guatemala and El Salvador that if they allow their citizens, or others, to journey through their borders and up to the United States, with the intention of entering our country illegally, all payments made to them will STOP (END)!" he wrote.

Hard to believe that with thousands of people from South of the Border, walking unimpeded toward our country in the form of large Caravans, that the Democrats won’t approve legislation that will allow laws for the protection of our country. Great Midterm issue for Republicans!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 17, 2018

 

Trump continued ranting about the caravan of migrants on Wednesday, lashing out at Democrats and accusing them of not wanting to boost border security.

"Hard to believe that with thousands of people from South of the Border, walking unimpeded toward our country in the form of large Caravans, that the Democrats won’t approve legislation that will allow laws for the protection of our country. Great Midterm issue for Republicans!" he wrote.

More: Trump: Aid will end to Central American countries allowing migrant caravan to head to US

Migrants have long streamed out of Central America in large numbers, increasingly as family units, in attempts to flee poverty and violence.

The "Northern Triangle" of Central America — Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador —rank among the most violent in the world, though homicide rates have fallen in recent years. Drug cartels move illegal merchandise through the region and street gangs control neighborhoods and routinely charge residents "rent" (a euphemism for extortion payments).

Caravans of migrants regularly convene as participants seek safety in numbers. Undocumented migrants transiting Mexico often fall victim to crimes such as kidnapping, extortion and rape — often committed by criminal gangs, drug cartels, coyotes and crooked public officials. 

 

 

 

A caravan of more than 1,500 Honduran migrants moves north after crossing the border from Honduras into Guatemala on Oct. 15, 2018 in Esquipulas, Guatemala. The caravan, the second of 2018, began Friday in San Pedro Sula, Honduras with plans to march north through Guatemala and Mexico en route to the United States. Honduras has some of the highest crime and poverty rates in Latin America.  Moises Castillo, AP

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1,500 Honduran migrants march to the United States

 

A caravan earlier this year also captured Trump’s attention. In a series of tweets, he accused Mexico of inaction to irregular migrants moving through its territory, even though Mexico operates checkpoints across its southern states. Over the past five years its immigration agency has detained and deported more Central Americans than the United States.

More: Did Central American migrants from the previous caravan enter the U.S.?

Mexican immigration officials deported 77,371 people from Guatemala, El Salvador and Honduras in 2017, according to the Interior Ministry.

The Washington Post reported Wednesday that Border Patrol agents detained nearly 17,000 family members in September, an 80 percent increase from July when the administration ended its controversial practice of separating families at the border.

 

The United States has sent $1.1 billion in aid to Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador over the past two years, according to the Washington Office on Latin America, a think tank. The aid has been controversial: Guatemalan President Jimmy Morales has been accused of corruption and has moved to terminate the work of a UN-sponsored anti-impunity commission, which has helped to convict members of the country political class on graft charges. Honduran President Juan Orlando Hernández controversially won re-election last year in a race marred by irregularities and a crackdown on people protesting the outcome.

Guatemala’s government issued a statement Monday saying the caravan would be stopped — even though Central American countries have agreements allowing its citizens to cross borders freely. 

A caravan lawmaker, Bartolo Fuentes, was arrested in Guatemala and would be deported back to Honduras, Reuters reported. The caravan, however, continues moving northward.

Honduras has deployed police to its border with Guatemala and urged its citizens not to participate in the caravan.

Vice President Mike Pence has warned Central Americans repeatedly to stay put. Last week, he told the Conference on Prosperity and Security in Central America: "We need all the nations in the Northern Triangle region to reinforce this message: Do not put your families at risk by taking the dangerous journey north to attempt to enter the U.S. illegally. The truth is, if they cannot come to the US legally, they should not come at all."

Rep. Andy Biggs, R-Arizona, said the caravan is another example of how undocumented immigrants and “their enablers continue to flout the laws of the United States” and urged his fellow lawmakers to approve a bill he introduced to penalize the home country of every undocumented immigrant caught at the border.

“We have continued to provide foreign aid to our neighbors to the south even though they permit, and even encourage, thousands of their citizens to enter the U.S. illegally,” he said in a statement issued Wednesday.

Under Biggs’ bill, “Fund and Complete the Border Wall Act,” the U.S. government would reduce $2,000 in aid to countries for each migrant arrested and direct money collected into a border wall fund.

Analysts say most migrants are not dissuaded by the risk of the road and ignore admonishments from the U.S. government, or anti-immigrant sentiments that appear to be more prevalent in the country, because the situation is that dire in their own countries.

"Many Hondurans are or were leaving behind gang or domestic violence in marginalized neighborhoods, where government services are lacking and the day to day life may be controlled by the dominant gang," said Stephanie Leutert director of the Mexico Security Initiative at the Strauss Center at the University of Texas.

More recently, though, U.S. Customs and Border Protection data show "larger numbers of migrants from the rural western regions" of Honduras, she added.

"The factors pushing out these migrants are going to look different and generally be tied to agriculture — such as low global commodity prices, especially coffee — and increasingly unpredictable weather patterns," she said. "These rural migrants could head to the dangerous Honduran big cities or go north. And from the data, it looks like more and more are choosing to go north."

Secretary of State Mike Pompeo travels to Mexico City on Friday, where he will meet with officials from Mexico’s outgoing and incoming governments. In the campaign, president-elect Andrés Manuel López Obrador, who takes office Dec. 1, pledged not to "do the dirty work" of any foreign government, when referencing Central American migrants transiting Mexican territory.

[Shabibilicious]

If it was on Twitter....it has to be true.  

 

GO RV, then BV

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[MyLadiesDaddy]

Just now, Shabibilicious said:

If if was on Twitter....it has to be true.  

 

GO RV, then BV

it was also in the news. A video clearly showing women and children being paid to join the Caravan. Sorry if you can't handle the truth.

[Shabibilicious]

Just now, ladyGrace'sDaddy said:

it was also in the news. A video clearly showing women and children being paid to join the Caravan. Sorry if you can't handle the truth.

 

Is George Soros in your video, truthsayer?  

 

GO RV, then BV

[8th ID]

Close the border!!!

[Butifldrm]

MEXICO SAYS IT WILL DEPORT ANY MIGRANT CARAVAN MEMBERS WHO ENTER WITHOUT PAPERS

10:54 AM 10/18/2018 | WORLD

Will Racke | Immigration and Foreign Policy Reporter

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Mexico sent federal police to its southern border Wednesday with a warning that they will detain and deport any members of a highly publicized migrant caravan who try to enter the country without a visa.

The police officers arrived in two planes in Tapachula, a border city that is a popular waypoint for migrants coming up through Central America to cross into Mexico. Local media reports showed hundreds of agents deplaning, some carrying riot gear.

In a statement released Wednesday evening, the Mexican foreign ministry said any of the caravan migrants entering the country “in an irregular manner” will be arrested and administratively deported if appropriate. Migrants who claim they are fleeing violence and want to petition for asylum must do so at the border, while remaining in a government-run camp for up to 45 days, the statement also said.

The caravan, dubbed “March of the Migrant,” formed in the northern Honduran city of San Pedro Sula on Friday, numbering about 150 migrants. It has since swelled to more than 2,000 people and has already crossed into neighboring Guatemala en route to the Mexican border. (RELATED: Another Huge Migrant Caravan Forms In Honduras With Aim Of Reaching US Border)

 

Caravan members say they are fleeing endemic poverty and violence in Honduras. Upon reaching Mexico, the migrants intend to request refugee status or transit visas that will allow them to keep moving north to U.S. ports of entry, according to march organizers.

The caravan is the second large group of migrants to attempt to reach the U.S. borderthrough Mexico this year, following a similar procession in April. In response to the earlier caravan, President Donald Trump accused Mexico of enabling illegal immigration and ordered thousands of national guard troops to the border in support of law enforcement agents, a deployment that continues today.

Trump has threatened governments of Honduras, Guatemala and El Salvador — where nearly all the caravan migrants are from — with foreign aid cuts if they don’t act to stop the outflow. Honduras warned its citizens Tuesday against taking part in the march, while Guatemala detained some of the caravan organizers on charges of immigration violations.

As the caravan continued to move north through Guatemala on Thursday, Trump turned his attention to Mexico, asking for helping in stopping the “onslaught” of migrants. He threatened to use the military to close the southwest border if Mexico doesn’t halt the procession.

“I must, in the strongest of terms, ask Mexico to stop this onslaught – and if unable to do so I will call up the U.S. Military and CLOSE OUR SOUTHERN BORDER!” Trump wrote on Twitter.

Adults from Nicaragua, Honduras, El Salvador and Guatemala only need to show their national identity cards to cross each other’s borders, but the rule doesn’t apply in Mexico. Prior to Wednesday’s statement, the Mexican government had already said entry visas would not be granted to migrants who don’t meet “the requirements to transit toward a neighboring country.”

Mexico also said it does not grant visas at border ports of entry, only at Mexican consulates abroad.

Secretary of State Mike Pompeo is slated to meet with Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto in Mexico City on Friday, according to the State Department. The migrant caravan will be on the agenda, a department official said.

https://dailycaller.com/2018/10/18/mexico-deport-migrant-caravan/

[cranman]

Yes. Deport them to the USA.  Sorry.  Couldn't resist.

[Butifldrm]

100 ISIS Terrorists Caught in Guatemala as Central American Caravan Heads to U.S.

 

 

OCTOBER 18, 2018

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In a startling revelation, Guatemala’s president announced in the country’s largest newspaper that nearly 100 ISIS terrorists have been apprehended in the impoverished Central American nation. Why should Americans care about this? A caravan of Central American migrants is making its way north. Let’s not forget that Guatemala is one of the countries that bombarded the U.S. with illegal immigrant minors under Barack Obama’s open border free-for-all. They came in droves from Honduras, El Salvador and Guatemala through the Mexican border and for years Uncle Sam rolled out the welcome mat offering housing, food, medical treatment and a free education

A terrorist could have easily slipped in considering the minors, coined Unaccompanied Alien Children (UAC), were not properly vetted and some turned out to be violent gangbangers who went on to commit heinous crimes in their adopted land of opportunity. In fact, the nation’s most violent street gang, Mara Salvatrucha (MS-13), was energized by the barrage of UACs. The Texas Department of Public Safety even issued a report documenting how the MS-13 emerged as a top tier gang in the state thanks to the influx of illegal alien gang members that came with the UACs. At the time more than 60,000 UACs—many with criminal histories—had stormed into the U.S. in a matter of months. Tens of thousands more eventually made it north.

Guatemala has long been known as a major smuggling corridor for foreigners from African and Asian countries making their way into the U.S. Last year Guatemala’s largest paper, Prensa Libra, published an in-depth piece on the inner workings of an international human smuggling network that moves migrants from Afghanistan, Pakistan, India, Nepal and Bangladesh to the U.S. Individuals are sent to Dubai in the United Arab Emirates then flown to Brazil before heading to Colombia. Once in South America, the migrants are transported to Panama before moving on to Costa Rica then a central point on Guatemala. One Spanish news report refers to Guatemala as a human smuggling paradise because it’s so easy to get fake passports. A few years ago, the head of Guatemala’s passport division got arrested for selling fake passports to a group of Colombians, according to a government announcement.

All this makes ISIS terrorists operating in Guatemala incredibly alarming. President Jimmy Morales confirmed it during a recent security conference attended by Vice President Mike Pence and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo as well as the presidents of Honduras and El Salvador and other Latin American dignitaries. Morales said that his administration has captured “close to 100 persons completely involved with terrorists, with ISIS and we have not only detained them within our territory, but they have been deported to their country of origin.” Several of the terrorists were Syrians caught with fake documents, according to Guatemala’s head of intelligence. At the same event, President Morales also revealed that Guatemalan authorities captured more than 1,000 gangbangers, including members of the MS-13.

Many more probably make it into the U.S. via the Mexican border and a lot of them get released inside the country. In fact, Border Patrol agents in Texas have been ordered to release illegal immigrants caught entering through Mexico because detentions facilities have no bed space, according to a news report. Earlier this year Judicial Watch exposed a secret program—started by Obama and continued by Trump— that quietly relocates illegal immigrants to different parts of the country on commercial flights. Years earlier Judicial Watch uncovered a similar DHS initiative that transported illegal immigrants from the Mexican border to Phoenix and released them without proper processing. The government classified them as Other Than Mexican (OTM) and transferred them 116 miles north from Tucson to a Phoenix bus station where they went their separate way. The OTMs were from Honduras, Colombia, El Salvador and Guatemala and a security company contracted by the U.S. government drove the OTMs from the Border Patrol’s Tucson Sector where they were in custody to Phoenix. Some could have been ISIS operatives.

https://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2018/10/100-isis-terrorists-caught-in-guatemala-as-central-american-caravan-heads-to-u-s/

[caz1104]

On ‎10‎/‎18‎/‎2018 at 8:33 AM, Shabibilicious said:

Interesting how Trump said, "....and Honduras and Guatemala for having "almost no control" over their populations...".  What exactly does he mean by that?  Is he implying he has control over the population of the U.S.?  Do his supporters even listen to the lunacy that comes out of his mouth?  Borders are indeed meant to be controlled....people on the other hand, not so much.  The governments and persecution in those countries is what these people are running from.

 

GO RV, then BV

What is your solution Shabs?

The LEFT & MSM continue to perpetrate this craziness by showing these poor souls (sic)...........Do you not understand the burden this puts on this country and its people. Like taxes (lefts best friend) there has to be time when we say enough is enough.....when is that for you?  I do believe we need to start hitting these countries that allow THEIR problems to be our problem in the pocketbook

[nstoolman1]

We send millions of $$$$ to these countries to help them out and then they migrate/invade our country and receive 

million in social aid. If that keeps happening the only recourse is to stop the money and lock down the borders. 

[Shabibilicious]

39 minutes ago, caz1104 said:

What is your solution Shabs?

The LEFT & MSM continue to perpetrate this craziness by showing these poor souls (sic)...........Do you not understand the burden this puts on this country and its people. Like taxes (lefts best friend) there has to be time when we say enough is enough.....when is that for you?  I do believe we need to start hitting these countries that allow THEIR problems to be our problem in the pocketbook

 

Good Morning Caz,

 

I have no problem with securing our border and vetting each individual that comes here.  I do not agree with separating families though, they should be detained together.  The vast majority of the people fleeing to this country are simply looking to better their situation, running from tyranny, the exact same thing most of our ancestors did.  Like it or not, we are the beacon....the torch flying high above the water is not there by accident.  We should adhere to those beliefs while still maintaining our security.  That said, the way Trump believes these countries are supposed to control their citizens like cattle or commodities concerns me.  Is that how he feels about Americans?  Does he not know he is a public employee not a king?  Words matter and somebody should teach him a few, along with the correct pronunciations and definitions.

 

GO RV, then BV

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[caz1104]

Sorry Shabs I disagree.

What is the solution? IMO by now these fine folks know what the possibilities are in regards to confinement. Seperating families is a way to hopefully deter ....nothing else. Countries need to understand that THEY and their happy citizens will be held accountable for their actions ( I know how extreme). Enter at your own risk,,,,,,or do it LEGALLY! Wow that's a novice idea

[md11fr8dawg]

Sorry Shabs, I believe our King could only save 2 terms and as of 1/2017 has left the building!!! Thank God! Unfortunately he has not left the scene. Still running around shooting off his narcissistic mouth still telling everyone how great he was and is. Sad.

Edited October 19, 2018 by md11fr8dawg

[caz1104]

There has to be a time when we say....sorry we cant help you.

Shabs.....how many people can you support at your house & property? Based on your response....as many that come.....if so please contact the government...we need more like you. Your unlimited dollars & space is exactly what is needed. 

[caz1104]

53 minutes ago, nstoolman1 said:

We send millions of $$$$ to these countries to help them out and then they migrate/invade our country and receive 

million in social aid. If that keeps happening the only recourse is to stop the money and lock down the borders. 

Cut off aid ....is a very simple solution.

[Indraman]

On ‎10‎/‎18‎/‎2018 at 6:33 AM, Shabibilicious said:

Interesting how Trump said, "....and Honduras and Guatemala for having "almost no control" over their populations...".  What exactly does he mean by that?  Is he implying he has control over the population of the U.S.?  Do his supporters even listen to the lunacy that comes out of his mouth?  Borders are indeed meant to be controlled....people on the other hand, not so much.  The governments and persecution in those countries is what these people are running from.

 

GO RV, then BV

 

If only it was as simple as these people are seeking a safer place for themselves and their families. If so, why are they traveling nearly a thousand miles through Mexico to come to America? They could easily set down roots in Mexico, couldn't they?

 

Indy

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[Shabibilicious]

6 minutes ago, caz1104 said:

Cut off aid ....is a very simple solution.

 

Cut off aid and what.....those countries in turn lock down their citizens like North Korea and shoot any that try and leave?  What the hell happened to human values in this country?  We are certainly facing the end of the United States of America experiment, of that I have no doubt.  So sad.

 

GO RV, then BV

[Shabibilicious]

1 minute ago, Indraman said:

 

If only it was as simple as these people are seeking a safer place for themselves and their families. If so, why are they traveling nearly a thousand miles through Mexico to come to America? They could easily set down roots in Mexico, couldn't they?

 

Indy

 

Mexico's streets are riddled with severed heads....would you put down roots there?  

 

GO RV, then BV

[caz1104]

Shabs

 

Again what is the solution? We cant be the worlds solution to everything? Just like EVERY country on earth we have limited space & dollars....sorry but it's true.

[caz1104]

2 minutes ago, Shabibilicious said:

 

Mexico's streets are riddled with severed heads....would you put down roots there?  

 

GO RV, then BV

We have murders daily thru out our own country.......lets solve our problems 1st. We don't need other countries problems. If you or other citizens want to send goods or monies........FANTASTIC. I'm sorry not me .....not anymore