Vespa_Romeo Posted September 20, 2018 Report Share Posted September 20, 2018 5 hours ago, Theseus said: Peaceful years in Iraq? Not since it became a country has there really been peace. Sadam gained power by bringing the assembly together and escorting out the ones he dindt like and shot them in the back pf the head. Some say Iran isnt done with Iraq as it controls the southern portion of Iraq and terror groups found a haven in Iraq when Sadam was in power. The Kurds have been fighting since the late fifties and even today they fight. There will never be peace in the Middle East intil the three religions decide on a winner and the other two no longer exist. Its been that way wven before the pedophilia prophet who tried to conquer the arabian pennisula by the sword. Even then the Middle East has been ravaged by war since man has been walking the earth. Peace? Never in the ME. wo wo wo..not so easy to judge other religion without studied it first..better watchout your words man..just bcoz the situation in iraq now you blame the prophet eh..i believe all the prophet never teach the followers with a bad thing.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butifldrm Posted September 20, 2018 Report Share Posted September 20, 2018 I was just thinking after watching your video justchecking yes at that time the exchande rate may have been over 3.00 but it appears the Iraqis were not living the life of the Rich and Famous. More than likely they had more money than they have now and were happier and safer than they are now. Yes they had a monster of a dictator for a ruler, but they were safe. Today they have a so called Democracy given to them by War, sanctions and a New World Order ridden with corruption, extremism and No Peace. 1 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocalDinar Posted September 21, 2018 Report Share Posted September 21, 2018 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Vespa_Romeo said: wo wo wo..not so easy to judge other religion without studied it first..better watchout your words man..just bcoz the situation in iraq now you blame the prophet eh..i believe all the prophet never teach the followers with a bad thing.. Its easy to have your own thoughts about people that believe in a invisible man in the sky. Maybe people should just keep these things to themselves. Edited September 21, 2018 by SocalDinar 1 1 2 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyLadiesDaddy Posted September 21, 2018 Report Share Posted September 21, 2018 47 minutes ago, Botzwana said: I think Islam is a false religion. My friend you know I respect you so please don't take this the wrong way but Islam is a Satanic Religion. 2 2 1 8 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3n1 Posted September 21, 2018 Report Share Posted September 21, 2018 13 hours ago, justchecking123 said: Baghdad's economy, culture and people were basically fine until the US bombed them into the stone age. Might wanna check with the kurds how fine it was under good ol saddam , on March 16 1988 saddam hit the kurds with mustard gas killed 5,000 people, i still remember seeing the images on tv of people seamingly froze dead where they were when bombed with the lethal gas and this was against citizens of iraq not trying to challenge any members opinions we all have that right to speak how we feel but the man was a brutal dictator imo , iraq had a strong currency way before his inflated self imposed value ..... we wait 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocalDinar Posted September 21, 2018 Report Share Posted September 21, 2018 Say hello to Jeffrey Dahmer for me 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waterman13 Posted September 21, 2018 Report Share Posted September 21, 2018 (edited) Go ahead, please delete the 3 000's that would make us all happy........ Wm13 Edited September 21, 2018 by waterman13 Additional 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waterman13 Posted September 21, 2018 Report Share Posted September 21, 2018 How good would your life be if you had 3000 times what you have now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocalDinar Posted September 21, 2018 Report Share Posted September 21, 2018 It would destroy most people 1 1 1 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justchecking123 Posted September 21, 2018 Report Share Posted September 21, 2018 19 hours ago, SocalDinar said: It would destroy most people 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MyLadiesDaddy Posted September 22, 2018 Report Share Posted September 22, 2018 On 9/20/2018 at 8:39 PM, SocalDinar said: Say hello to Jeffrey Dahmer for me really ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocalDinar Posted September 22, 2018 Report Share Posted September 22, 2018 LGD Its not up to man to decide if one follows the faith. People may not believe what he said and was he vtruly sincere.. If one believes in God I would think they would leave that to their higher power. My Lutheran family truly believes he is in heaven. Saving Jeffrey Dahmer The world knew Jeffrey Dahmer as a hardened killer. But one pastor knew him as a forgiven sinner. When Wisconsin minister Roy Ratcliff received a phone call that an inmate at a nearby prison wanted to be baptized, he had no idea that the prisoner in question was Jeffrey Dahmer--a man known worldwide for his crimes of murder, dismemberment and cannibalism. After performing the requested baptism in 1994, Ratcliff began traveling to the prison for weekly one-hour meetings with Dahmer. In a new book, Ratcliff discusses his experiences--and whether Dahmer's conversion was genuine.One of the most common questions put to me about Jeff has to do with the sincerity of his faith. And I usually hear this from Christians. They ask if Jeff was truly sincere in his desire for baptism and in his Christian life. My answer is always the same: Yes, I am convinced he was sincere. This question bothers me. Why question the sincerity of another person’s faith? Baptism represents a change in lifestyle. A person is expected to change after being baptized. When people don’t change, we begin to wonder. Why were they baptized? Did they did not fully comprehend what was involved? I can understand those kinds of questions. But Jeff’s circumstance was different. The people asking me didn’t know about his post-baptismal life. They were basing their question on what he did before he was baptized, not after. That bothers me. Jeff was judged not by his faith, but by his crimes. The questioner always seemed to hope I’d answer: “No, he wasn’t sincere.” The questioner seemed to be looking for a way to reject Jeffrey as a brother in Christ instead of seeing him as a sinner who has come to God. The subtext of such questions was simple. They didn’t want to think of Jeff as a brother. Such ungraciousness is contrary to the Christian spirit. Was Jeff saved? Were his sins taken away? Is he a Christian believer? Did he repent of his sins? Or was the blood of Christ shed on the cross somehow too weak, too thin, too anemic to cover his sins? Did Jeff mean it when he said, “I’m so sorry for what I’ve done. God help me, I’ll never do that again”? Why was it inconceivable that Jeffrey Dahmer could come to faith? I became convinced of Jeff’s sincerity by one happening. On a certain visit we came to the end of our study time together. The prison guard had given us the signal, but right then, before I stood to leave, Jeff bared his soul. “I feel very, very bad about the crimes I’ve committed. In fact, I think I should have been put to death by the state for what I did.” “I agree with you,” I said. “You should have been put to death by the state for the crimes you committed.” He replied, “If that is true, am I sinning against God by continuing to live?” “Boy, you sure picked a time to bring this up,” I answered. “We can’t go into all this now, but I can see where you are going.” I asked him to read the first half of Romans 13 (13:1-7) before my next visit. “That passage relates to your question,” I said. “I will. Take care – I’ll see you next time,” he said as I left. On the drive home all this ran through my mind. Jeff was thinking of suicide. Would he take matters into his own hands and kill himself? Did he feel so bad about himself that he no longer wanted to live? Read more at http://www.beliefnet.com/faiths/christianity/2006/11/saving-jeffrey-dahmer.aspx#peP6fiClmFj8pkyf.99 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyLadiesDaddy Posted September 22, 2018 Report Share Posted September 22, 2018 1 hour ago, SocalDinar said: My Lutheran family truly believes he is in heaven. I grew up Lutheran, taught Sunday school in the Methodist Church, trusted in Christ as my Lord in a Baptist Church and have now acknowledged that the Authority of God resides in the Catholic Church. (and forgoing the sins of some of the clergy, God's Authority ALWAYS supersedes mans sin} So I can tell you unequivocally that my knowledge of faith is well rounded and extensive. If Jeffery accepted the Gift of Salvation before he died then YES he is in heaven. That goes for everyone. But I want to make something clear about my comments on Islam. The post that I edited to nothing was an extensive reminder in pictures what we've all see here over the years that Islam does to those that don't follow Islam. I deleted it because I realized that this thread was about the CBI and not Islam and I didn't want to offend my dear friend Master @yota691 . 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bama Girl Posted September 23, 2018 Report Share Posted September 23, 2018 On 9/20/2018 at 3:55 PM, justchecking123 said: But I knew Iraqi exchange students at my local state college who were. They loved their homeland...and told me a TON about before and after. People had money and bank accounts, etc. I wasn’t going to get into this argument but I couldn’t let these couple of statements go without commenting. I have spent years reading and learning about Iraq and it’s culture of many generations. When Saddam was in power, there was rampant torture, mass murder, and the only parts of Iraq which were affluent were the areas in which Saddam and his minions resided. The exchange students who you knew, justchecking123, had to have been children of the “members in power”. I recall the awful torture chambers and the rape rooms which Saddam’s two sons used to rape young women snatched off the street by their thugs. Electricty was only available in certain areas of the country. Remember the huge mass graves of Saddam’s opposition discovered after we went into Iraq? Huge mass graves of Kurds, estimated 100,000 or more. I also recall the stories of the people walking up to our military and thanking them for rescuing them from Saddam. I respectfully disagree that Iraq was a great peaceful and prosperous country before we “invaded” them. Just my 2 cents. 4 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theseus Posted September 23, 2018 Report Share Posted September 23, 2018 (edited) On 9/20/2018 at 7:20 PM, Vespa_Romeo said: wo wo wo..not so easy to judge other religion without studied it first..better watchout your words man..just bcoz the situation in iraq now you blame the prophet eh..i believe all the prophet never teach the followers with a bad thing.. Seriously? I have studied the Quran and the Hadiths. The latter which contains some of the most hilarious jokes it is not even funny. Don't give me the weak Hadith crap or what I learned is out of context because most Muslims don't even know the context. I know the verses in the Qur'an are not in chronological order and the verses that people point to that are so-called friendly verses have been abrogated. The so-called prophet never teach a bad thing? Seriously? A bad thing eh? Here is something their so-called prophet taught, dogs, especially black ones, were bad and must be killed. Why? The story goes the so-called prophet tried to have someone either assassinated and the dogs alerted to the would-be assassins preventing the assassination from occurring. Thus he declared dogs were bad after that giving a different reason for the declaration. I have heard with my own two ears Muslims charm the pants off of women, then go behind closed doors and talk about committing terrorist acts in the name of their so-called prophet. Don't tell me I haven't studied this religion because I have through an unbiased mind. Once you learn the correct sequence of the verses you find out they go from friendly (when their so-called prophet had no more than 85 followers and kicked out of Mecca by his own family to when he came back from Medina with an army of criminals and beyond) How their so-called prophet never stepped foot in Jerusalem but is said to have ascended to heaven to get the number of times a muslim is supposed to pray. I have debated the fallacies that exist in the Quarn and the Hadiths. How the Mother of Islam, Aisha, own recollection of the Quran was thrown out. How the Quran was put together by Othman and how he burned all remnants and verses he could get his hands on once the Quran was put together. How their so-called prophet could not read (debatable with him running Kadisha's business) so he would have people memorize it and recite it. How because of this there were different versions of the Quran as confirmed in the Hadiths. What a reader and translator is. How in an Istanbul museum, the Quran on display looks and reads nothing like the Quran of today due to the language of Arabic being a phonetic one. I know far more than the normal infidel and far less than a cleric. One thing I do know and will always equate is the teachings of the so-called prophet got his revelations from the mouth of the Angel of Light to which the god of the Jews and Christians said he would never speak through another being and two the Angel of Light is said to be Shaitan. Please, I have never studied the religion (being sarcastic here). Bah! I have spent years studying the region and the religion. Edited September 23, 2018 by Theseus 1 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyLadiesDaddy Posted September 23, 2018 Report Share Posted September 23, 2018 7 hours ago, Theseus said: One thing I do know and will always equate is the teachings of the so-called prophet got his revelations from the mouth of the Angel of Light to which the god of the Jews and Christians said he would never speak through another being and two the Angel of Light is said to be Shaitan. Please, I have never studied the religion (being sarcastic here). Bah! An excellent post, thanks for the education. For anyone to say that Islam is a religion of peace is foolish at best. I only knew some of what you said. I've no need to read the Satanic Quran, anyone that isn't stupid needs only to listen to the news from all over the earth at what Islam is. But I must agree that the so called prophet was talking with the, "Angel of Light", of that I've no doubt. 2 Corinthians 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texstorm Posted September 23, 2018 Report Share Posted September 23, 2018 Thanks Bama Girl, Theseus, LGD , I greatly appreciate all of your input. The truth is Iraq is a cesspool and quagmire of deceit and corruption and evil. It's been that way since the garden when Satin first appeared . The whole world is now under Satin's siege ! Prophecy is being played out right in front of our eyes and yet there are those that are blind. I truly believe that God gave us President D-Rex Trump to try and turn this nation and the world around. Yes our President is only a man full of sin just like the rest of us but his direction has exposed the worst corruption in history. I have no doubt that God has his hands and heart to bring us all out of iniquity. May his light divide the waters , level our mountains, open our eyes unto an ever lasting peace. Amen ! 2 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theseus Posted September 23, 2018 Report Share Posted September 23, 2018 (edited) On 9/20/2018 at 4:55 PM, justchecking123 said: Well, well, well... They weren't a rich country. Yeah Saddam wasn't a good man, but this country had life, was generally happy and vibrant, with infrastructure, and people who didn't have to worry about basic human needs. Butifldrm had a well-explained over of my...take...so I won't ramble on about it, the research is out there for people to look up. No. I haven't been there. But I knew Iraqi exchange students at my local state college who were. They loved their homeland...and told me a TON about before and after. People had money and bank accounts, etc. Two weeks before the shock and awe it looked like this. I'd suggest watching the whole thIng, not just a sound bite for an opinion. 1 Really with Information Ministers such as this who wouldn't love Iraq when Sadam was in power (go to time marker 7:09). According to this guy Iraqi's (at that time) Iraqi's were victorious. It's called blowing smoke up the behind to brainwash the mind. The epitome of how students got their information and then how they viewed Iraq. Edited September 23, 2018 by Theseus 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROSTYJACK Posted September 23, 2018 Report Share Posted September 23, 2018 For anyone to say that Islam is a religion of peace is foolish at best anyonethat isn't stupid needs only to listen to the news from all over the earth at what Islam is. So anyone that doesn't believe what you believe is an idiot. Do you even listen to the words that come out of your mouth? Your next post will be bragging about what a good Christian you are. Christ's message was peace and love. What is yours? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyLadiesDaddy Posted September 23, 2018 Report Share Posted September 23, 2018 This is Islam Asia & Pacific Roadside bombing kills 8 children in northern Afghanistan By Associated Press September 22 KABUL, Afghanistan — An Afghan official says at least eight children have been killed in a roadside bomb explosion in northern Faryab province. Karim Yuresh, spokesman for the provincial police chief, says six other kids were wounded in the blast that took place late Friday afternoon in Shirin Tagab district. Yuresh says that according to a hospital report, two of the wounded kids are in critical condition. All of the children are between 5 and 12 years of age and were playing when the bomb exploded, he added. No one immediately claimed responsibility for the attack, but Yuresh blamed Taliban insurgents who usually plant roadside bombs to target Afghan security forces in different part of the province. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyLadiesDaddy Posted September 23, 2018 Report Share Posted September 23, 2018 2 hours ago, FROSTYJACK said: For anyone to say that Islam is a religion of peace is foolish at best anyonethat isn't stupid needs only to listen to the news from all over the earth at what Islam is. So anyone that doesn't believe what you believe is an idiot. Do you even listen to the words that come out of your mouth? Your next post will be bragging about what a good Christian you are. Christ's message was peace and love. What is yours? I challenge you and call you out to provide evidence that I said the red highlighted part of your attack. Lots of folks don't think like I do, and believe you me I'm glad for that. But not thinking like me doesn't make anyone an idiot. Unlike you my words are carefully chosen simply because of the Staff flag under my avatar. So yes I know what I'm saying. And I also challenge you to show me one time where I claimed to be a, "Good Christian". I don't think anyone of us is that good. We simply try to do the best we can. My message here for 8 years has ALWAYS AND ONLY BEEN ABOUT LOVE. And I think you know that but the TRUTH doesn't go along with your narrative, does it. 1 7 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dinarbeleiver Posted September 23, 2018 Popular Post Report Share Posted September 23, 2018 This thread has taken a nose dive - any chance we can get back to the issues of delete the zeros instead of arguing over religion. All religion is evil in my book and all religions have caused atrocities throughout today and history. I believe in GOD but I say stick religion where the sun don't shine 1 9 20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cranman Posted September 23, 2018 Report Share Posted September 23, 2018 At least take it to the Off Topic section. Too many time threads get hijacked by politics or religion. How many people think we are really that much closer? I'm not saying we're not. There are a lot of articles in regards to lower denoms, trillion dinar initiative and de-dollarizing. Is that even a word? I have to say that IMO I think we still have a little ways to go. I have no time frame, but seems there are holidays after holidays, no rush to get anything done. no respect or consideration for the common Iraqi people or an actual plan. Did you ever notice that we always say that Iraq/ CBI will never announce the revaluation but every article they print we assume that they are telling us (wink,wink, nudge, nudge). Maybe they are. None of the articles make any sense and all I have heard lately is delete the three zeroes form the currency. I know past articles state something very different. If we make it through this investment we all deserve a really looooong holiday. Thank you for letting me blow off steam . Too early for a drink? 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhona Posted September 23, 2018 Report Share Posted September 23, 2018 Thank you Dinarbeliever and Cranman ,a great thread was highjacked ,let’s get back to it 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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