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The US military responds to Iran's threat to close the Strait of Hormuz: ready to guarantee freedom of navigation


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5th July, 2018


Pledged to the US military on Thursday to maintain freedom of navigation for oil tankers in the Persian Gulf, after Iran threatened to close the Strait of Hormuz to oil tankers. 

"US naval forces and regional allies are ready to ensure freedom of navigation and free flow of goods, wherever international law allows in the Persian Gulf," said US Army Middle East spokesman Bill Urban.

On Wednesday, Iranian Revolutionary Guards commander Ismail Kuthari threatened to block oil shipments through the Strait of Hormuz if Washington banned his country's exports. 

Iranian President Hassan Rowhani issued similar threats, praised by Qasim Soleimani, commander of the Quds Force of the Revolutionary Guard, the Islamic Republic News Agency (IRNA) reported Wednesday. 

Commenting on the Iranian threats, Soleimani said the Corps was "ready to carry out orders", according to media reports.

 
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The US Navy stands ready to ensure freedom of navigation and free flow of commerce, a spokesman for the US military’s Central Command said on Thursday, after Iran threatened to block oil shipments through the Strait of Hormuz if Washington bans its oil sales, Arabiya News reported.
“The US and its partners provide and promote security and stability in the region. Together, we stand ready to ensure the freedom of navigation and the free flow of commerce wherever international law allows,” Central Command spokesman Navy Captain Bill Urban said in an email to Reuters.
Meanwhile the head of the Iranian parliamentary committee for national security and foreign policy MP Hashmatullah Flahat Bisha said on Thursday that Iran cannot close the “Strait of Hormuz.”
On the understanding of Rouhani’s statement as a threat to close the strait, and was later backed by the commander of the Quds Force in the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Qassim Soleimani , Iranian MP Bisha said that Rouhani did not mean by these words, to close the “Strait of Hormuz.”

 

http://www.thebaghdadpost.com/en/story/29089/US-Navy-vows-to-protect-free-flow-of-commerce-after-Iranian-threats

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I might not speak for all of us at DV but I am sure a few feel the same.

We thought long and hard about who we wanted to hire (elect) to take care of our interests.

When it comes to our defense, our new hire president chose wisely.

So Iran, I hope you read this... Just do it, PLEASE!!!

Thanks for bringing this Mr. P and good day.

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Whenever stuff like this starts happening I’m thinking red herring or false flag.  What’s really getting ready to happen to our economy, the monetary-banking system, sysmic world power shift? Can’t you just sense something is not right.  Ever since the last banking crisis in 2008 and what transpired over the last 10 years you just know the other shoe may be getting ready to drop.  Who knows maybe it’s the Dinar RV or the complete annihilation of Iran and a new era of peace for the ME. Go Dinar, RV. 

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Iran to TRUMP: Because of your mistakes the price of oil barrel will reach $ 100

7/5/2018 11:00:00 AM107 Number of readings
 

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Khandan- 

OPEC's governor, Hossein Kazempour Ardebili, said on Thursday that oil prices would soon reach $ 100 a barrel due to supply disruptions caused by US President Donald Trump, defying expectations that Saudi Arabia and Russia would help push crude prices down. 

Trump again accused OPEC on Wednesday of pushing fuel prices up and urging US allies such as Saudi Arabia to pump more oil if they wanted Washington to keep protecting them from their arch-rival Iran. 

"Trump should have expected that when Iran is prevented from reaching world markets, he will end up being a hostage to Saudi Arabia and Russia," Ardebili told Reuters. "They have no strong interest in cutting prices.

"The responsibility to pay unnecessary oil prices to all consumers around the world, especially at US gas stations, is only you, Trump, and the price of over $ 100 has not come yet."

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50 minutes ago, Pitcher said:

Whenever stuff like this starts happening I’m thinking red herring or false flag.  What’s really getting ready to happen to our economy, the monetary-banking system, sysmic world power shift? Can’t you just sense something is not right.  Ever since the last banking crisis in 2008 and what transpired over the last 10 years you just know the other shoe may be getting ready to drop.  Who knows maybe it’s the Dinar RV or the complete annihilation of Iran and a new era of peace for the ME. Go Dinar, RV. 

Yes, I can see that.

Fortunatly, our current president has an ego the size of the Grand Canyon (which is required to fix this mess).

With all the tools at his disposal, he won’t let an economic meltdown happen on his watch.

After that, the probability is high but with a little closure we will be in a better position to ride out the storm.

I’ve been through a few in my lifetime and this one will be no different.

Be prepared, aware and don’t sweat over it  now. It won’t help, it is only a point of agrivation at this time.

Take care, Sir.

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9 important information about the Strait of Hormuz, which Iran threatened to close it

9 important information about the Strait of Hormuz, which Iran threatened to close
 


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 8 hours ago

Iranian President Hassan Rowhani has threatened to close the Strait of Hormuz and prevent Gulf oil exports to the world.

Rohani's remarks came as he commented on US sanctions against Tehran and US President Donald Trump's attempt to ban Iran's oil exports.

Tehran had threatened several times previously to close the strait as Western pressure mounted on it with regard to its nuclear program.

The United States maintains a military presence in the Gulf, in order to ensure the flow of oil supplies normally. 
The Strait 
is located in the south of the Gulf and separates it from the waters of the Gulf of Oman and the Arabian Sea.

It is bordered to the north by Iran and from the south by the Sultanate of Oman.
The Strait holds the name of the island of Hormuz, which is located at the entrance and was in the sixteenth century Kingdom under the rule of an Arab family of Oman, and succeeded the Portuguese occupation in 1515, and in 1632 was able to British and Persian forces expelled the Portuguese from this island at the entrance to the Gulf, that time.
There are also several other islands at the entrance of the strait: the Iranian islands of Qeshm, Larak, the Lesser Tunb, Greater Tunb and Abu Musa, which are disputed by Iran and the United Arab Emirates.
About 40 percent of world oil production passes through the Strait of Hormuz.
The width of the strait is 50 kilometers and the depth of the water is 60 meters.
The entry and exit corridors are 10.5 kilometers long and accommodate 20 to 30 tankers per day.
Saudi Arabia exports 88 percent of its oil production across the strait, Iraq 98 percent, the United Arab Emirates 99 percent, and all Iran, Kuwait and Qatar.
Japan is the largest oil importer across the Strait of Hormuz. 
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TEHRAN - Iranian President Hassan Rowhani has been under attack for months by hardline conservatives who seem to gain their support suddenly, in a move that does not reflect their conviction of the recent spiritual rhetoric of national unity to face the country's difficulties. To make Rouhani and his government a scapegoat in an attempt to overcome the stalemate of the protests that have been shaking the country since the end of 2017, and also in an attempt to emerge as a strong system in a message addressed to the Europeans on the threshold of reviewing the nuclear agreement and sanctions on Iran.

In a remarkable sign of this change in the atmosphere, General Qassim Soleimani, commander of the Quds Force of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards in charge of foreign operations, addressed a message in which he praised the spiritual position. "I accept your rightful and timely statements," Soleimani wrote in a letter published by Fars, referring to Rohani's recent statements about Israel and US threats to Iranian oil.

Rohani said in Bern that his country "considers the Zionist entity illegal," and expressed doubts about the ability of the United States to prevent Iran from exporting its oil.

The comments came as part of a European tour to the Iranian president to gain economic guarantees for the survival of his country in the nuclear agreement signed in 2015 after the withdrawal of the United States from it in May.

In Iran, Rowhani's statements are interpreted as threatening to close the Strait of Hormuz at the entrance to the Arabian Gulf, where about 30 percent of the world's oil is transported by sea. Iranian newspapers have devoted considerable coverage to Soleimani's message. "See you in the strait," the front page of the Revolutionary Guards said, with a picture of the general and the president shaking hands in front of a map of the Strait of Hormuz.

Kasem Soleimani's entire front page of the Saundaghi newspaper was titled "Unity between the Revolutionary Guard and the Government."

A newspaper close to the Revolutionary Guards published on its front page a picture of Sulaimani and Rohani shaking hands in front of a map of the Strait of Hormuz

Rowhani, who expressed a desire to reform the economy through the development of the private sector, has criticized several of the influence exercised by the Revolutionary Guard in several areas in Iran. Rohani, the moderate conservative president who was re-elected in 2017 with the support of reformists, is one of the architects of the Vienna agreement with his foreign minister, Mohammed Jawad Zarif, an agreement strongly opposed by the Revolutionary Guard and the conservative movement.

Rouhani was re-elected for a new four-year term in May 2017 with the support of reformists.

Since his first term in office, the Iranian president has been attacked by conservatives who see the United States withdraw from the nuclear deal as proof that their rebuttal to the West is justified.

Rowhani was also accused of abandoning the poorer social classes after protests broke out during the New Year in dozens of Iranian cities to protest the authorities and the economic and social situation.

In the second half of June, internal tensions drove some conservative conservatives to demand the start of a spiritual removal mechanism after a new fall in the riyal exchange rate and angry protests against power in Tehran.

But things suddenly changed. "We have to put aside our differences because it is now about the national interest and the survival of the nation," wrote Hossein Shariata Madari, editor-in-chief of Kayhan newspaper, close to the adviser's office and a Conservative spokeswoman.

"The resistance of the enemy and the maintenance of the independence of the country impose on us ... we forget our differences to a later date," wrote Abdullah Ghanji, editor-in-chief of the Joan newspaper, referring to the truce being limited.

The Arabs

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China is the largest buyer of Iranian crude oil according to the latest statistics, and FGI Consulting says Beijing is not fully responsive to US President Donald Trump's plan to stop Iranian oil exports.

Iran's oil exports are around 2.3 million barrels per day (estimated by June) and China alone buys around 650,000 barrels per day of the total.

The rest of the importers are in order (according to June purchases): India, the European Union, Turkey, Japan and South Korea. Others buy small quantities like Russia and the Syrian regime.

Trump - who has withdrawn from the nuclear deal with Iran and imposed sanctions - seeks to stifle those exports to zero by November 4, otherwise importers will be punished as well.

The White House still awaits official responses from Beijing, New Delhi and Ankara, which buys 60 percent of Iran's total oil exports, for their cooperation with Trump's plan to halt the flow of Iranian oil, the FGI news agency reported.

China
said FJI said China may continue to import Iranian oil, even if it is much less than its current purchases.

Beijing's stated position is what a foreign ministry spokesman said at the end of last month when he stressed that "China and Iran are friends, and we establish normal exchanges and cooperation on the basis of compliance with international law." Analysts read the remarks as a Chinese challenge to Trump's calls.

India
has made mixed signals about its stance on stopping Iranian exports, but its officials say they have prepared alternative plans for all eventualities. According to press reports, the government has asked Indian oil refineries to prepare for the possibility of a halt to Iranian imports altogether.

Turkey
and Ankara, Foreign Minister Mouloud Gawishoglu said at the end of last month that his country would not sever its trade relations with Iran at the behest of another country. Economy Minister Nihad Zibekji also said US demands to halt oil trade with Iran were not binding.

The European Union,
on the other hand, confirms the leaders of the European Union that they are keen to save the nuclear agreement with Iran, and maintain trade and investment relations between the two sides.

This time, the EU refrained from banning Iranian oil on its part, as it did when it cooperated with previous US President Barack Obama's sanctions against Tehran in 2012.

But on the ground, European refiners are now cutting their purchases of Iranian oil at a faster pace than expected, Reuters said - as they fear retaliation by the United States.

Al Jazeera 

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US Navy responds to Iran's threats to close the Strait of Hormuz

In International - Reports  July 6, 2018 on US Navy respond to Iran's threats to close the Strait of Hormuz closed 131 visits

The US Central Command announced on Thursday that the US Navy was ready to guarantee free shipping and trade flows after Iran threatened to block oil shipments through the Strait of Hormuz .

"The United States and its partners are providing and strengthening security and stability in the region," US Central Command spokesman Captain Bill Urben said in a July 5, 2018 press release. "We are ready together to ensure free navigation and trade movement wherever international law permits," he said. .

Iran has threatened in the past few days to close the Strait of Hormuz, an important shipping corridor for global oil supplies, if Washington tries to stop Iranian exports .

An Iranian Revolutionary Guard commander said on Wednesday Iran would halt any crude exports from the Gulf states in response to the US hostile stance .

The Iranian Revolutionary Guard lacks strong naval forces and instead focuses on asymmetric fighting capabilities in the Gulf. It has many fast boats and portable launchers to launch anti-ship missiles and can plant naval mines .

A senior US military commander said in 2012 that the Revolutionary Guards had the ability to close the Strait of Hormuz "for a period of time" but the United States in this case will take action to reopen it .

In May, US President Donald Trump withdrew from a multilateral agreement to lift sanctions against Iran in exchange for restrictions on its nuclear program. Washington later asked states to refrain from buying Iranian oil from November 4 or face financial sanctions.

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Iran's President says European economic measures now on offer to save nuclear deal do not go far enough.
Friday 06/07/2018
 
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Iranian President Hassan Rouhani seeks to save the nuclear deal

VIENNA - The top diplomats of Iran and five world powers meet Friday as Tehran seeks assurances it will benefit economically from the nuclear deal despite the US withdrawal from the pact.

But in a setback on the eve of the talks, Iran's President Hassan Rouhani told French President Emmanuel Macron that European economic measures now on offer did not go far enough.

Rouhani, who this week visited Europe to rally support for the nuclear deal's survival, said in a phone call with Macron that the package "does not meet all our demands", reported Iran's IRNA state news agency.

Since US President Donald Trump's shock move in May, which dismayed all other signatories, Washington has warned other countries to end trade and investment in Iran and stop buying its oil from early November or face punitive measures.

The other signatories -- Britain, France, Germany, China and Russia -- have vowed to stay in the accord but appear powerless to stop their countries' companies pulling out of Iran for fear of US penalties.

The Vienna meeting of foreign ministers will discuss the European offer that aims to persuade Iran to stick with the 2015 deal, a European diplomat said without specifying the measures.

The top diplomats of the five powers and the European Union were due to join Iranian Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif from 0900 GMT in Vienna, where the accord was signed.

Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov said this week the talks should give an "impetus" to protect the interests of economic actors.

And Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi said the meeting would "send a united and determined signal" to the world that the other parties "will continue to respect the agreement".

'Crime and aggression'

Iranians have complained that the hoped-for rise in foreign investment and trade after the deal has not materialised.

Since Trump's announcement, Iran's rial currency has fallen, prices have risen and the country has been hit by street protests and strikes.

Rouhani, who signed the nuclear deal, has been attacked at home by ultra-conservatives, who have denounced his willingness to talk to the West and accused him of hurting the economy.

Visiting Austria on Wednesday, he met Yukiya Amano, head of the UN nuclear watchdog IAEA which monitors Iran's compliance with the accord.

Rouhani told Amano that US sanctions were a "crime and aggression" that other nations should resist, according to IRNA.

He added that "if the other signatories, apart from the United States, can guarantee Iran's interests then Iran will stay in the JCPOA", or Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, the accord's formal name.

Trump in May slammed the nuclear accord signed under his predecessor Barack Obama as "horrible" and "defective at its core," earning applause from Iran's regional rivals Saudi Arabia and Israel.

Iran, which strongly denies ever having sought a nuclear bomb, has warned it could resume uranium enrichment for civilian purposes if the deal collapses.

Supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has vowed that Iran "will never tolerate both suffering from sanctions and nuclear restrictions".

US-Iran relations have been hostile since the 1979 overthrow of the US-backed shah and US embassy hostage crisis.

Washington considers Iran a state sponsor of terrorism, with links to Lebanon's Hezbollah, Hamas in the Palestinian territories and networks in Iraq and Yemen, and demands it cease support of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad.

The new round of diplomacy has been clouded after security services said they had foiled an alleged plot to bomb a Paris rally by an exiled Iranian opposition group, the People's Mujahedeen of Iran.

The large rally last Saturday attracted several US politicians, including former New York mayor Rudy Giuliani, now Trump's personal lawyer.

Six people were arrested in Belgium, France and Germany, while the opposition group blamed the Iranian regime for the alleged plot.

One of those detained was a diplomat attached to the Iranian embassy in Austria.

Tehran dismissed it is an orchestrated "false flag ploy", designed to discredit Iran and overshadow Rouhani's trip to Europe, and Wednesday summoned the French and Belgian ambassadors and the German charge d'affaires in protest.

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China criticizes Iran for threatening closure of Strait of Hormuz

06/07/2018

 

 

 

(Xinhua) - Iran should do more to ensure stability in the Middle East and harmony with its neighbors after the Iranian Revolutionary Guards warned that it could prevent the export of oil through the Strait of Hormuz, a senior Chinese diplomat said Sunday.

Saudi Arabia, Iraq and Kuwait are among the major suppliers of oil to China while Qatar supplies liquefied natural gas (LNG), so any closure of the strait will have serious consequences for its economy.

But Beijing was forced to deal cautiously with Arab countries such as Saudi Arabia because of China's close ties with Iran.

Iranian President Hassan Rowhani and some senior army commanders have threatened to block oil shipments from the Gulf if Washington tries to halt Iranian exports.

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Major powers seek to save Iran's nuclear deal despite Tehran's intransigence

Date: 10:59 AM, July  Posted by AFP
 

The Europeans, Russia and China will meet on Friday in Vienna with Iranian officials to make concrete proposals to maintain the nuclear deal after Tehran has set out conditions under the agreement.

Pressure is mounting on the foreign ministers of the five major powers still adhering to the deal - Germany, China, Britain, France and Russia. Hours before the meeting, Iranian President Hassan Rowhani announced that the Europeans offer to compensate for the consequences of Washington's withdrawal from the agreement is not satisfactory at this stage.

During a telephone conversation with French President Emmanuel Macaron, Rohani said that "the package of European proposals on continuing the process of cooperation in the nuclear agreement does not include all the demands of the Islamic Republic," Iranian media reported Thursday evening.

The proposals will be at the heart of the talks scheduled for 9:00 GMT between Iranian Foreign Minister Mohammad Jawad Zarif and his counterparts in Vienna, which witnessed the signing of the historic agreement in 2015.

Iran seems to be weakening. At the beginning of June, Iranian Parliament Speaker Ali Larijani warned that "the time for negotiations is about to end," and called on Europe to "declare a clear and rapid position."

Tehran is trying to get economic compensation from European countries after the surprise withdrawal of the United States from the agreement in early May. Iran has repeatedly threatened to resume uranium enrichment.

The historic 2015 agreement is subject to strict monitoring of Iran's nuclear activities in order to prevent it from acquiring a nuclear weapon. In return, Tehran lifted international economic sanctions with new investments possible. 

But since the administration of President Donald Trump has withdrawn from the UN-approved deal, near the reinstatement of US sanctions, foreign investors have fled.

Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov said Friday's meeting should give "impetus" to protect the interests of economic partners.

Countdown

On Thursday evening, Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi said in Vienna, "I am confident that we will send a unified signal with a design for the world."

Under its terms, which were presented at the end of May, Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, especially the signatories of the deal, demanded that Iran sell oil and trade. So far, most major European financial institutions have refrained from ensuring trade with Iran for fear of being sanctioned by the US.

Thus, Europe finds itself between the hammer of Iran, which is trying to win foreign investment and Washington's dams, which can hurt its companies.

As Washington prepares to reinstate its first sanctions in early August, the Iranian president visited Geneva and Vienna this week to defend the pact. But Rohani's visit to Europe was overshadowed by the arrest of a diplomat at the Iranian embassy in Vienna suspected of involvement in an attack in France against an Iranian opposition group.

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1 hour ago, ChuckFinley said:

Looking for them to pull me out of retirement.  :salute:

 

1 hour ago, CSM (R) Thackrey said:

Me too Chuck...me too!!👍👍

I never got my chance back in the 70's as they didn't really want my type.......I knew I was coming back so they told me to go to school and make something. Well I ended up making something the troops wanted and has served a lot of them well.

 

Now I have plenty of weapons so if they need me this party I can supply my own weapons, gears and ammo....Just pay my way to the party.

 

 

 

Karsten

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1 minute ago, Karsten said:

 

I never got my chance back in the 70's as they didn't really want my type.......I knew I was coming back so they told me to go to school and make something. Well I ended up making something the troops wanted and has served a lot of them well.

 

Now I have plenty of weapons so if they need me this party I can supply my own weapons, gears and ammo....Just pay my way to the party.

 

Karsten

Would be proud to have you cover my six!!! And I would have yours!!!🇺🇸👍

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1 minute ago, Karsten said:

 

I never got my chance back in the 70's as they didn't really want my type.......I knew I was coming back so they told me to go to school and make something. Well I ended up making something the troops wanted and has served a lot of them well.

 

Now I have plenty of weapons so if they need me this party I can supply my own weapons, gears and ammo....Just pay my way to the party.

 

Karsten

 

Just now, CSM (R) Thackrey said:

Would be proud to have you cover my six!!! And I would have yours!!!🇺🇸👍

Drafting Guys Over 60
This is funny & obviously written by a Former Soldier...

New Direction for any war: Send Service Vets over 60!

I am over 60 and the Armed Forces thinks I'm too old to track down terrorists. You can't be older than 42 to join the military. They've got the whole thing ass-backwards. Instead of sending 18-year olds off to fight, they ought to take us old guys. You shouldn't be able to join a military unit until you're at least 35.

For starters, researchers say 18-year-olds think about sex every 10 seconds. Old guys only think about sex a couple of times a day, leaving us more than 28,000 additional seconds per day to concentrate on the enemy.

Young guys haven't lived long enough to be cranky, and a cranky soldier is a dangerous soldier. 'My back hurts! I can't sleep, I'm tired and hungry.' We are impatient and maybe letting us kill some ******* that desperately deserves it will make us feel better and shut us up for awhile.

An 18-year-old doesn't even like to get up before 10am. Old guys always get up early to pee, so what the hell. Besides, like I said, I'm tired and can't sleep and since I'm already up, I may as well be up killing some fanatical son-of-a-*****.

If captured we couldn't spill the beans because we'd forget where we put them. In fact, name, rank, and serial number would be a real brainteaser.

Boot camp would be easier for old guys.. We're used to getting screamed and yelled at and we're used to soft food. We've also developed an appreciation for guns. We've been using them for years as an excuse to get out of the house, away from the screaming and yelling.

They could lighten up on the obstacle course however. I've been in combat and never saw a single 20-foot wall with rope hanging over the side, nor did I ever do any pushups after completing basic training.

Actually, the running part is kind of a waste of energy, too. I've never seen anyone outrun a bullet.

An 18-year-old has the whole world ahead of him. He's still learning to shave, to start a conversation with a pretty girl. He still hasn't figured out that a baseball cap has a brim to shade his eyes, not the back of his head.

These are all great reasons to keep our kids at home to learn a little more about life before sending them off into harm's way.

Let us old guys track down those dirty rotten coward terrorists. The last thing an enemy would want to see is a couple million pissed off old farts with attitudes and automatic weapons, who know that their best years are already behind them.

HEY!! How about recruiting Women over 50...in menopause!!! You think MEN have attitudes??
Ohhhhhhhhhhhh my God!!! If nothing else, put them on border patrol. They'll have it secured the first night!


 
 
 
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1 hour ago, Karsten said:

 

Drafting Guys Over 60
This is funny & obviously written by a Former Soldier...

New Direction for any war: Send Service Vets over 60!

I am over 60 and the Armed Forces thinks I'm too old to track down terrorists. You can't be older than 42 to join the military. They've got the whole thing ass-backwards. Instead of sending 18-year olds off to fight, they ought to take us old guys. You shouldn't be able to join a military unit until you're at least 35.

For starters, researchers say 18-year-olds think about sex every 10 seconds. Old guys only think about sex a couple of times a day, leaving us more than 28,000 additional seconds per day to concentrate on the enemy.

Young guys haven't lived long enough to be cranky, and a cranky soldier is a dangerous soldier. 'My back hurts! I can't sleep, I'm tired and hungry.' We are impatient and maybe letting us kill some ******* that desperately deserves it will make us feel better and shut us up for awhile.

An 18-year-old doesn't even like to get up before 10am. Old guys always get up early to pee, so what the hell. Besides, like I said, I'm tired and can't sleep and since I'm already up, I may as well be up killing some fanatical son-of-a-*****.

If captured we couldn't spill the beans because we'd forget where we put them. In fact, name, rank, and serial number would be a real brainteaser.

Boot camp would be easier for old guys.. We're used to getting screamed and yelled at and we're used to soft food. We've also developed an appreciation for guns. We've been using them for years as an excuse to get out of the house, away from the screaming and yelling.

They could lighten up on the obstacle course however. I've been in combat and never saw a single 20-foot wall with rope hanging over the side, nor did I ever do any pushups after completing basic training.

Actually, the running part is kind of a waste of energy, too. I've never seen anyone outrun a bullet.

An 18-year-old has the whole world ahead of him. He's still learning to shave, to start a conversation with a pretty girl. He still hasn't figured out that a baseball cap has a brim to shade his eyes, not the back of his head.

These are all great reasons to keep our kids at home to learn a little more about life before sending them off into harm's way.

Let us old guys track down those dirty rotten coward terrorists. The last thing an enemy would want to see is a couple million pissed off old farts with attitudes and automatic weapons, who know that their best years are already behind them.

HEY!! How about recruiting Women over 50...in menopause!!! You think MEN have attitudes??
Ohhhhhhhhhhhh my God!!! If nothing else, put them on border patrol. They'll have it secured the first night!


 
 
 

That was great...Have to say I agree!!! 🇺🇸😎👍

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Don’t forget the grumpy old farts with a lot of issues.  We may not see too good, are unable to run, and we sure as hell can’t shoot straight,  but we will gladly sign up to defend our country.  Why am I Volunteering, and why am I at the Army enlisting office, I can’t seem to remember.  When do we get to eat?

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1 hour ago, Pitcher said:

Don’t forget the grumpy old farts with a lot of issues.  We may not see too good, are unable to run, and we sure as hell can’t shoot straight,  but we will gladly sign up to defend our country.  Why am I Volunteering, and why am I at the Army enlisting office, I can’t seem to remember.  When do we get to eat?

😂🤣😂🤣...3 hots and a cot!!!

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3 hours ago, Karsten said:

 

I never got my chance back in the 70's as they didn't really want my type.......I knew I was coming back so they told me to go to school and make something. Well I ended up making something the troops wanted and has served a lot of them well.

 

Now I have plenty of weapons so if they need me this party I can supply my own weapons, gears and ammo....Just pay my way to the party.

 

 

 

Karsten

Like the CSM said. You could cover my six any day.  :salute:

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