Sage449 Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 http://www.watcherofweasels.org/effect-manafort-verdict-cohen-plea-bargain Long article - posted but not the tweets shown. While Leftists and #NeverTrumpers bathe themselves in ritual blood from the Manafort verdict and Cohen plea, Americans just want government to support them. Manafort is not either a nice or a morally decent man. Today, the jury found him guilty on eight charges of tax fraud (long before he worked on the Trump campaign), while the judge dismissed the other eleven charges on grounds of mistrial. Likewise, there’s no reason to believe that Trump’s former attorney, Cohen, was a man of either decency or honor. Manafort was someone Trump ended up with when no one in the establishment would touch him in the run-up to the election, but Cohen and Trump go back a ways. Like many in New York’s big-time construction industry, Trump had his fixer. However, it’s worth pointing out that past presidents — most notably Democrats — haven’t had very savory connections either. Manafort is no better than his past partners in business, the Podesta brothers, but while the latter continue to fly comfortably under the Clinton-Democrat-Deep State radar, Manafort, because of his connections to Trump, became a marked man. Indeed, when it comes to the Clinton’s, I’d need to have as many fingers as the Hindu goddess Kali to count off all of their unsavory and deeply criminal connections. Obama was no better: Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn, Louis Farrakhan, Palestinian terror supporters, his whole top-level IRS, Brennan, Hillarious Clinton, etc. He had a rogues gallery surrounding him, all of whom again had the protective umbrella of the Clinton-Democrat-Media-Deep State complex. They weren’t less corrupt than anyone around Trump; they were just better insulated from their crimes. But going back to Manafort and Cohen, while Trump and his supporters have pointed out that none of this has anything to do with collusion and that silencing a blackmail probably isn’t campaign fraud outside of Mueller-land, the Left and their fellow travelers amongst the #NeverTrumpers are in paroxysms of excitement, believing that (again) this is the beginning of the end of the Trump presidency. I thought I’d share some of their tweets with you. As you read the tweets from Leftists, please note that they haven’t yet seem to process that, if they get Trump out, then Pence is in. (Tweets didn't copy) My take is that, beginning with the Clintons, Americans understood something they’d been in denial about in the years after the Harding administration: namely, that our federal government is corrupt. What ordinary American are dreaming about isn’t a moral government, which is increasingly a pipe dream. Instead, they want a government in which the doesn’t just work for the benefit of those in government or in bed with government but, instead, works for the American people. With Trump promising smaller government, Americans are hoping that, with fewer hands in the till and less federal money to be had, there’s simply going to be less scope for corruption in the future. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caz1104 Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 4 minutes ago, bostonangler said: Sowing your loser oats there Caz? How about the guy in Colorado who killed his wife and two little girls, he wasn't an immigrant, but I guess the illegal immigrant part makes it a big story to you. Of course any murder is a big story, but those stories are secondary to the lead story. Sadly there are murders everyday in America by illegals and/or citizens, but a president and his crooked friends only comes around once in every couple of generations and that is why it is a big story. It's not everyday you the see beginning of the end for an American president. B/A "secondary" to clinically INSANE maybe.....to those with a moral compass....NO! This shows all the extremes the LEFT will go.....how about ur outrage for HRC for the killings of our Brave Servicemen in Benghazi...not a peep.....oh that's right HRC was in charge! And you and ur brethren(LEFT & MSM) thought it to be SECONDARY then as well 1 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caz1104 Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 8 minutes ago, bostonangler said: I see you have no answer to the most basic question. A fiscal conservative cannot support less income and increased spending... Good for you. B/A I answered your question....sadly but not surprising you cant comprehend the answer 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonangler Posted August 22, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 6 minutes ago, caz1104 said: "secondary" to clinically INSANE maybe.....to those with a moral compass....NO! This shows all the extremes the LEFT will go.....how about ur outrage for HRC for the killings of our Brave Servicemen in Benghazi...not a peep.....oh that's right HRC was in charge! And you and ur brethren(LEFT & MSM) thought it to be SECONDARY then as well I have said many times I do not support Clinton. And when that event took place I wasn't posting on DV... At least not down here in the swamp. B/A 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caz1104 Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 9 minutes ago, bostonangler said: I have said many times I do not support Clinton. And when that event took place I wasn't posting on DV... At least not down here in the swamp. B/A Please excuse if I doubt what u say....ya see u got a history of shall we say.....fibbing. I hate being PC "secondary" please explain that to the families MURDERED by your Illegal buddies - BA you have sunk to a new low 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caz1104 Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 I give Umbertino a slight pass on his ignorant back woods thinking/posts for he has no clue whatsoever. You I at least thought you could rationale the difference between Tax Fraud & MURDER of innocent US citizens...I was terribly...wrong 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synopsis Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 15 minutes ago, caz1104 said: THE MURDER OF AN INNOCENT YOUNG GIRL BY AN ILLEGAL IS SECONDARY!!!!!!!!! now that tells every one ALIVE where you stand morally....that is sic & disgusting This is an unbelievably new low for the Snowflake and Buttercup Idiot Brigade Volunteer Forces. How could ANYONE support ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS, ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, AND HUMAN TRAFFICKING???!!! It is an extremely sad fact that ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS practice HUMAN TRAFFICKING (unconscionably CHILDREN) in The United States Of America while typically outside of the main stream media reporting!!! There is compelling human rights mandates to segregate minors from ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT adults to circumvent CHILD TRAFFICKING in The United States Of America!!! How could ANYONE support HUMAN TRAFFICKING to include CHILDREN in The United States Of America???!!! Yep, that all leads to egregious acts against bone fide The United States Of America Citizens, legal visitors, AND ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS to include giving ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS the opportunity to murder, human traffic, and commit all kinds of other crimes in The United States Of America!!! In this case, it was Mollie Tibbitts. Why is Mollie Tibbitt's life so cheap that ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION is tolerated AND promoted???!!! And all the "Volunteer Forces" have to complain about is and attack President Donald J Trump AND they support the Deep State characters who commit seditious acts against The United States Of America and The United States Of America Citizens. These same "Volunteer Forces" also denounce Patriotism and True Patriot The United States Of America Citizens all in the name of being a Progressive, Anarchist, Liberal, Socialist, Fascist, Nazist, or Communist. Due to the "Volunteer Forces" destructive abuses via iconoclasm of Rule Of Law AND those upholding Rule Of Law, the "Volunteer Forces" actively tolerate or promote ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION because they: Have a spouse, relative, or significant other who is an illegal immigrant. Have one or more friends who is an illegal immigrant. Employ illegal immigrants. Harbor illegal immigrants. Traffic illegal immigrants (that may include children the illegal immigrants traffic). Practice various seditious acts, to include Anarchy, against The United States Of America to include the Founding Principles of The United States Of America. Are a paid shill or receive some benefit by committing seditious acts against The United States Of America to include the Founding Principles of The United States Of America. Have no intelligence or comprehension of reality. Have no regard for the costs to The United States Of America Citizens for the social services the illegal immigrants consume. Have no regard for the compromise of the personal safety and security of The United States Of America Citizens due to acts of crime, to include murder, that illegal immigrants can and do commit. Unbelievably sad condition in The United States Of America at the hands of these "Volunteer Forces". 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSM (R) Thack Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, Synopsis said: In this case, it was Mollie Tibbitts. Why is Mollie Tibbitt's life so cheap that ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION is tolerated AND promoted???!!! Truly a sad day...the BLUF... (no dancing around this, no denying it and certainly no defending it), Mollie would be here today if not for the “illegal” immigrant who took her life!! 🇺🇸 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caz1104 Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 11 minutes ago, CSM (R) Thackrey said: Truly a sad day...the BLUF... (no dancing around this, no denying it and certainly no defending it), Mollie would be here today if not for the “illegal” immigrant who took her life!! 🇺🇸 but according to the LEFT, MSM, & some here that is secondary. Especially when more important life threatening issues like TAX FRAUD or ANYTHING ANTI-Trump is put forth. I really can't understand what has happened to 50%(LEFT) of America 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caz1104 Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 21 minutes ago, Synopsis said: This is an unbelievably new low for the Snowflake and Buttercup Idiot Brigade Volunteer Forces. How could ANYONE support ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS, ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, AND HUMAN TRAFFICKING???!!! It is an extremely sad fact that ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS practice HUMAN TRAFFICKING (unconscionably CHILDREN) in The United States Of America while typically outside of the main stream media reporting!!! There is compelling human rights mandates to segregate minors from ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT adults to circumvent CHILD TRAFFICKING in The United States Of America!!! How could ANYONE support HUMAN TRAFFICKING to include CHILDREN in The United States Of America???!!! Yep, that all leads to egregious acts against bone fide The United States Of America Citizens, legal visitors, AND ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS to include giving ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS the opportunity to murder, human traffic, and commit all kinds of other crimes in The United States Of America!!! In this case, it was Mollie Tibbitts. Why is Mollie Tibbitt's life so cheap that ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION is tolerated AND promoted???!!! And all the "Volunteer Forces" have to complain about is and attack President Donald J Trump AND they support the Deep State characters who commit seditious acts against The United States Of America and The United States Of America Citizens. These same "Volunteer Forces" also denounce Patriotism and True Patriot The United States Of America Citizens all in the name of being a Progressive, Anarchist, Liberal, Socialist, Fascist, Nazist, or Communist. Due to the "Volunteer Forces" destructive abuses via iconoclasm of Rule Of Law AND those upholding Rule Of Law, the "Volunteer Forces" actively tolerate or promote ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION because they: Have a spouse, relative, or significant other who is an illegal immigrant. Have one or more friends who is an illegal immigrant. Employ illegal immigrants. Harbor illegal immigrants. Traffic illegal immigrants (that may include children the illegal immigrants traffic). Practice various seditious acts, to include Anarchy, against The United States Of America to include the Founding Principles of The United States Of America. Are a paid shill or receive some benefit by committing seditious acts against The United States Of America to include the Founding Principles of The United States Of America. Have no intelligence or comprehension of reality. Have no regard for the costs to The United States Of America Citizens for the social services the illegal immigrants consume. Have no regard for the compromise of the personal safety and security of The United States Of America Citizens due to acts of crime, to include murder, that illegal immigrants can and do commit. Unbelievably sad condition in The United States Of America at the hands of these "Volunteer Forces". I agree with 99.99999% percent of what u state. However all of MY interactions with SHABS have been cordial regardless of our differing opinions 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caz1104 Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 For those that are PRO CHOICE (murder of children), then I can see how the MURDER of innocent Mollie doesn't faze them one iota....ohhhhhhhhhh but if you commit TAX FRAUD....the left & MSM would have one's whole family whacked! 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonangler Posted August 22, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 1 hour ago, caz1104 said: Please excuse if I doubt what u say....ya see u got a history of shall we say Do tell.... B/A 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caz1104 Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 1 minute ago, bostonangler said: Do tell.... B/A REALLY....even u aren't that dumb......are u? Well I guess with ur response the answer is......................YES. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caz1104 Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 (edited) Here's an easy one for u....read it slow tho...not to fast. What's your political definition of "middle of the road"? Please no crayon's or stick figure answers Edited August 22, 2018 by caz1104 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caz1104 Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 If need be u can use a lifeline to help with ur answer 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonangler Posted August 22, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 7 minutes ago, caz1104 said: REALLY....even u aren't that dumb......are u? Well I guess with ur response the answer is......................YES. No you said I have a history of posting on the political thread during the Benghazi event.. I don't remember being on this part of DV until the run up to the 2016 election... So if I have such a history you'd have to show it... so there as... Do tell.... I know sometimes people get confused but don't feel bad it happens to the best of us... Well except his royal Trumpness because he is smarter than the world, just ask him. B/A 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonangler Posted August 22, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 (edited) Oh oh… Big trouble in little Trumptowm Trump admits he knew about hush-money payments that came from him U.S. President Donald Trump told Fox News on Wednesday that he knew about hush-money payments to a porn star and model, but claimed he found out after they were made. When asked about the payments made to porn star Stormy Daniels and former Playboy model Karen McDougal by his former lawyer Michael Cohen, Trump said, "Later on, I knew." He claimed money came from him, not from his campaign finances. Cohen pleaded guilty Tuesday to campaign-finance violations and seven other criminal charges. Cohen's attorney said Wednesday he would not accept a presidential pardon. In dramatic testimony on Tuesday, Cohen told a federal court in Manhattan that Trump had directed him to arrange payments ahead of the 2016 presidential election to silence two women who said they had affairs with Trump. He pleaded guilty to charges of tax evasion, bank fraud and campaign finance violations. His plea came as former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort was found guilty on eight charges in his financial fraud trial stemming from the federal investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 U.S. election and possible coordination with the Trump campaign. The two findings of guilt ratchet up the political pressure for Trump and fellow Republicans ahead of November's congressional elections in which Democrats are seeking to regain control of Congress. It also increases pressure on Trump personally. While Cohen did not name Trump in court on Tuesday, his attorney Lanny Davis again on Wednesday accused the president of being directly involved. Davis has said he believes Cohen had information that would be of interest to Mueller, and in his interview with MSNBC on Wednesday suggested that it was directly tied to Russian attempts to interfere in the 2016 election. Cohen had "information ... regarding both knowledge of a conspiracy to corrupt American democracy by the Russians and the failure to report that knowledge to the FBI," Davis told MSNBC. Cohen "is more than happy to tell the special counsel [Robert Mueller] all that he knows, not just about the obvious possibility of a conspiracy to collude and corrupt the American democracy system in the 2016 election ... but also knowledge about the computer crime of hacking and whether or not Trump knew about that ahead of time and even cheered it on," Davis said. He added, on CNN, that "Cohen has knowledge that would be of interest to the special counsel about whether Donald Trump knew ahead of time about the hacking of emails." A U.S. grand jury has indicted 12 Russian intelligence officers on charges of hacking the computer networks of Clinton's campaign and the Democratic Party. Moscow has denied findings from the U.S. intelligence community that Russia interfered with the election with the aim of boosting Trump and hampering his Democratic challenger Hillarious Clinton. Trump has also denied any collusion with his campaign. https://www.dailysabah.com/americas/2018/08/22/trump-admits-he-knew-about-hush-money-payments-that-came-from-him He knew after the payments were made, but said nothing... That's like telling the cops I knew my neighbor robbed the bank but I didn't say anything when he gave me some cash... I believe that is called "Accessory after the fact". Is the president so stupid that he doesn't realize he is implicating himself? He needs a good lawyer... Oh wait, he only hires the best. B/A Edited August 22, 2018 by bostonangler 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caz1104 Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 8 minutes ago, bostonangler said: No you said I have a history of posting on the political thread during the Benghazi event.. I don't remember being on this part of DV until the run up to the 2016 election... So if I have such a history you'd have to show it... so there as... Do tell.... I know sometimes people get confused but don't feel bad it happens to the best of us... Well except his royal Trumpness because he is smarter than the world, just ask him. B/A uh excuse me...again reading & comprehending seems to have lost you. I said I never saw a "peep" from u about HRC & Benghazi. I also have asked for your "outrage" posts on those on the left to the extreme you go after anything Trump...more than once.....seeing as u claim to be middle of the road......those mysteriously have never been put forth. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caz1104 Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 7 minutes ago, bostonangler said: Oh oh… Big trouble in little Trumptowm Trump admits he knew about hush-money payments that came from him U.S. President Donald Trump told Fox News on Wednesday that he knew about hush-money payments to a porn star and model, but claimed he found out after they were made. When asked about the payments made to porn star Stormy Daniels and former Playboy model Karen McDougal by his former lawyer Michael Cohen, Trump said, "Later on, I knew." He claimed money came from him, not from his campaign finances. Cohen pleaded guilty Tuesday to campaign-finance violations and seven other criminal charges. Cohen's attorney said Wednesday he would not accept a presidential pardon. In dramatic testimony on Tuesday, Cohen told a federal court in Manhattan that Trump had directed him to arrange payments ahead of the 2016 presidential election to silence two women who said they had affairs with Trump. He pleaded guilty to charges of tax evasion, bank fraud and campaign finance violations. His plea came as former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort was found guilty on eight charges in his financial fraud trial stemming from the federal investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 U.S. election and possible coordination with the Trump campaign. The two findings of guilt ratchet up the political pressure for Trump and fellow Republicans ahead of November's congressional elections in which Democrats are seeking to regain control of Congress. It also increases pressure on Trump personally. While Cohen did not name Trump in court on Tuesday, his attorney Lanny Davis again on Wednesday accused the president of being directly involved. Davis has said he believes Cohen had information that would be of interest to Mueller, and in his interview with MSNBC on Wednesday suggested that it was directly tied to Russian attempts to interfere in the 2016 election. Cohen had "information ... regarding both knowledge of a conspiracy to corrupt American democracy by the Russians and the failure to report that knowledge to the FBI," Davis told MSNBC. Cohen "is more than happy to tell the special counsel [Robert Mueller] all that he knows, not just about the obvious possibility of a conspiracy to collude and corrupt the American democracy system in the 2016 election ... but also knowledge about the computer crime of hacking and whether or not Trump knew about that ahead of time and even cheered it on," Davis said. He added, on CNN, that "Cohen has knowledge that would be of interest to the special counsel about whether Donald Trump knew ahead of time about the hacking of emails." A U.S. grand jury has indicted 12 Russian intelligence officers on charges of hacking the computer networks of Clinton's campaign and the Democratic Party. Moscow has denied findings from the U.S. intelligence community that Russia interfered with the election with the aim of boosting Trump and hampering his Democratic challenger Hillarious Clinton. Trump has also denied any collusion with his campaign. https://www.dailysabah.com/americas/2018/08/22/trump-admits-he-knew-about-hush-money-payments-that-came-from-him He knew after the payments were made, but said nothing... That's like telling the cops I knew my neighbor robbed the bank but I didn't say anything when he gave me some cash... I believe that is called "Accessory after the fact". Is the president so stupid that he doesn't realize he is implicating himself? He needs a good lawyer... Oh wait, he only hires the best. B/A another post by the self pro-claimed "middle of the road" BA.....wow DV must have a computer program that changes EVERY BA political post to either Anti-Trump or Anti-Right. Mods or Adam can u please check into this. BA claims this is not his/her true beliefs 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caz1104 Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 (edited) The most stupid aspect of this Cohen/Manafort fiasco....who in thier right mind didn't know Trump paid said monies or at least knew about it.....seriously. A politician that lied........while I don't condone it...it's still a fact of life. For those on the LEFT here at DV that have a hard time comprehending, the key words in this post..."don't condone"...just trying to save wasted breath and repeating myself at nausea Edited August 22, 2018 by caz1104 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSM (R) Thack Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 37 minutes ago, caz1104 said: A politician that lied........while I don't condone it...it's still a fact of life “If you want to keep your plan, you can keep your plan...period! If you want to keep your doctor, you can keep your doctor...period”!!!🤔 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caz1104 Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 lol - The Left & MSM have cornered the market on Blinders....horses at the Kentucky derby bout went on strike because "blinder" supplies were extremely low almost non-existent 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonangler Posted August 22, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 39 minutes ago, caz1104 said: Trump paid said monies or at least knew about it Surely you understand this is a campaign finance issue... Paying to shut someone up right before an election is illegal. Paying with campaign funds would be even worse. Cohen as an individual cannot contribute more than $2,700. It appears if even one of the above is true, laws were broken jail time would be in order. Of course as patriots we all would want any politician or criminal for that matter, breaking laws held accountable. Be it Trump or Clinton or Hunter or Feinstein or Obama, or any other politician they are not above the law. Time to lock them up if guilty and that includes our president. Now I say this knowing none of them will be locked up, but they should be. JMHO B/A 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonangler Posted August 22, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, caz1104 said: lol - The Left & MSM have cornered the market on Blinders....horses at the Kentucky derby bout went on strike because "blinder" supplies were extremely low almost non-existent Come on Caz, you write as though you are a pretty bright guy. Why is it you say everyone has blinders on except those supporting Trump. He has more problems than a farm dog has fleas. Yet you join the crowd giving him a pass. It doesn't make sense. It is beginning to look like he is just a NYC thug... B/A 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caz1104 Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 6 minutes ago, bostonangler said: Come on Caz, you write as though you are a pretty bright guy. Why is it you say everyone has blinders on except those supporting Trump. He has more problems than a farm dog has fleas. Yet you join the crowd giving him a pass. It doesn't make sense. It is beginning to look like he is just a NYC thug... B/A Again I cant take anything u say honestly.....this "middle of the road" fraud that u perpetrate leaves everything u post without merit. You HATE anything Right or Trump....and that's ok just admit it. I speak for myself only but I aint skerwd to admit Im a conservative 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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