Trump's trade war is economic suicide

[bostonangler]

1 minute ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said:

made by a child in a forced-labor situation

 

You know that describes America in the Gilded Age before unions? We used to be a country of child labor, unsafe labor practices and such. It was through worker solidarity and unions that the middle class was created. If corporations had their way, they would certainly use cheap labor (not saying children) and would cuts costs on safety... In fact, right now most new jobs being created do not offer a living wage. The middle class is shrinking and people are getting poorer... And the economic policies we are seeing are not going to help any of that. Multi-nationals moving out of China to Vietnam or some other Asian country is  not going to help the American worker. Just like Trump products, other companies are not coming back.

 

B/A

[bostonangler]

2 minutes ago, Shabibilicious said:

 

TWS.....Your man of choice and his daughter make products by the very same people and process you just railed against.....Think about that.  

 

GO RV, then BV

 

[Synopsis]

8 minutes ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said:

So you would rather pay next to nothing for some piece of junk that was made by a child in a forced-labor situation Yes much more appropriate

 

 !!!LadyGrace'sDaddy!!! 

 

An EXCEPTIONAL "response" TO A "noted" "keyboard" "combatant" PUTRID MAIDS "activating" A TACTIC ATTACK ALERT "with" PSBS.

 

P   Particularly

U   Untruthful

T   Totally

R   Ridiculous

I    Information

D   Distibuted

 

M   Maniacal

A    Alternate

I     Intellect

D    Dysfunction

S    Syndrome

 

T  Throw

A  A

C  Conniption

T  To

I   Induce

C  Confusion

 

A  Attemption

T  To

T  Totally

A  Altercate

C  Constitutional

K  Knowledge

 

A  Always

L  Lacking

E  Expressive

R  Rational

T  Thinking

 

P   Petulant

S   Spoiled

B   Brat

S   Syndrome

 

AND

 

P   Progressive

S   Senseless

 

I "addressed" THEE "onset" OF THIS Elitist / Socialist / Liberal / Leftist / Communist / Fascist / Nazist / Race Baiting / Whack Job "economic" "trade" "deal" "suicide" twenty-five (25) years ago WITH MY (NOTE: MY) The United States Of America Senator as "noted" "earlier".

 

SO.........................................................................................

 

THEE "keyboard" "combatant" PUTRID MAIDS TACTIC ATTACK ALERT IS JUST A POTENT TODAY AS IT EVER WAS!!!

 

EXCEPT................................................................................

 

Reason AND Common Sense AND Decency IS FINALLY MAKING A COMEBACK IN SPITE OF THEE PUTRID MAIDS TACTIC ATTACK ALERT AND PSBS!!!

 

YEP!!! Time To "clean" THEE "clocks" OF THEE PUTRID MAIDS TACTIC ATTACK ALERT AND PSBS!!!

 

Go E Pluribus Unum FOREEVER!!!

 

Go MAGA FOREVER!!!

 

Go True The United States Of America Patriot President Donald J Trump THROUGH 2024!!!

 

Go True The United States Of America Patriots FOREVER!!!

 

(A Special Thank You To ALL The Red Rubymeisters IN ADVANCE For ALL The Red Ruby Citations As Badges Of Honor For ME For "Display Of Intellectual Speed And Power" Who THINK (misnomer, of course) The True The United States Of America Patriot President Donald J Trump IS A POS!!!)!!!

 

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[Shabibilicious]

Copy/paste....rinse/repeat....bring nothing to the table but personal attacks....same old, same old.

 

GO RV, then BV

[nstoolman1]

8 minutes ago, Shabibilicious said:

Copy/paste....rinse/repeat....bring nothing to the table but personal attacks....same old, same old.

 

GO RV, then BV

 

Nice summary of your posts about Trump. 

[Synopsis]

26 minutes ago, Synopsis said:

(A Special Thank You To ALL The Red Rubymeisters IN ADVANCE For ALL The Red Ruby Citations As Badges Of Honor For ME For "Display Of Intellectual Speed And Power" Who THINK (misnomer, of course) The True The United States Of America Patriot President Donald J Trump IS A POS!!!)!!!

 

WOWZERS!!!

 

I REALLY DID Get A Red Ruby Citation As A Badge Of Honor For ME For "Display Of Intellectual Speed And Power" From A Red Rubymeister!!!

 

THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU Red Rubymeister(s)!!!

 

      

 

Go E Pluribus Unum FOREVER!!!

 

Go MAGA FOREVER!!!

 

Go True The United States Of America Patriot President Donald J Trump THROUGH 2024!!!

 

Go True The United States Of America Patriots FOREVER!!!

 

(A Special Thank You To ALL The Red Rubymeisters IN ADVANCE For ALL The Red Ruby Citations As Badges Of Honor For ME For "Display Of Intellectual Speed And Power" Who THINK (misnomer, of course) The True The United States Of America Patriot President Donald J Trump IS A POS!!!)!!!

 

Go Red Rubymeisters (ELSEWHERE!!!)!!!

 

Go Moola Nova (YEAH AND YEE HAW, BABY, READY WHEN YOU ARE BROTHER (OR SISTER) - LET 'ER BUCK!!!)!!!

   

[Shabibilicious]

10 minutes ago, nstoolman1 said:

 

Nice summary of your posts about Trump. 

 

Hahahaha.....you got me there.  Most of Donald's stupidity will last for generations to come and never gets old.  

 

GO RV, then BV

[Synopsis]

15 minutes ago, nstoolman1 said:

Nice summary of your posts about Trump. 

 

I REALLY AND HIGHLY appreciate Your Well Grounded True The United States Of America Patriot Reason AND Common Sense AND THEE UTMOST Decency expressed in Your posts, NSToolMan1, "addressing" PUTRID MAIDS "activating" TACTIC ATTACK ALERT "especially" BY PSBS With Your True The United States Of America Patriotism Resulting From Your Adherence To THEE four (4) Textual Cornerstones.

 

True The United States Of America Patriotism IS grounded in THEE four (4) Textual Cornerstones AND IS ALWAYS CONSISTENT AS IT ADDRESSES PUTRID MAIDS "activating" TACTIC ATTACK ALERT "especially" BY PSBS emanating from THEE Enemies Of The State Of The United States Of America "keyboard" "combatants" AND I GET THE SIX OF OTHER True The United States Of America Patriots AND support True The United States Of America Patriots AT EVERY OPPORTUNITY!!!

 

So, Yes, I WILL BE CONSISTENT IN MY BEING A True The United States Of America Patriot BASED ON THEE four (4) Textual Cornerstones HOWEVER CONSISTENT IT WILL APPEAR ESPECIALLY TO THE PUTRID MAIDS "activating" TACTIC ATTACK ALERT "especially" BY PSBS WHILE GETTING THE SIX OF True The United States Of America Patriots "addressing" THEE "keyboard" "combatants" Enemies Of The State Of The United States Of America.

 

 !!!True The United States Of America Patriots!!! 

 

                            

[bostonangler]

Trump's illusory claims of gains from tariffs

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump is painting a false picture of a U.S. economy unaffected by his trade war with China and other countries.

He describes a blue-sky world in which rapidly escalating tariffs have no impact on American consumers even as a raft of businesses and economists say otherwise, chastising those who caution of potential weakness in the economy as partisans.

"Our Country, economically, is doing great - the talk of the world!" he tweeted Sunday.

He's glossing over the facts.

Some economists have put the costs to an average U.S. household from Trump's pending tariffs on imports from China at $1,000 per year or more, not taking into account the most recent tax hike the president announced Friday of up to 30% on goods. Trump also insisted that economists don't believe his trade disputes with China could spur recession, but in fact most analysts believe a downturn could start in the next two years.

The claims capped a week in which Trump repeatedly misrepresented his administration's record, also citing false progress on veterans' health care, boasting misleadingly about his judicial nominations and blaming President Barack Obama for a policy of separating migrant families that he himself started.

A look at the claims:

ECONOMY

TRUMP: "I think our tariffs are very good for us. We're taking in tens of billions of dollars. China is paying for it." — remarks Friday night to reporters before leaving for the Group of Seven summit in France.

TRUMP: "It's coming in by the billions. We never got 10 cents from China." — remarks Sunday with the British prime minister at G-7 summit.

TRUMP: "The tariffs have cost nothing, in my opinion. ...And we're not paying for the tariffs; China is paying for the tariffs, for the one-hundredth time." — remarks on Aug. 18 to reporters in Morristown, New Jersey.

THE FACTS: Americans, in fact, are paying for the tariffs. It's also false to say the U.S. never collected a dime in tariffs on Chinese goods before Trump took action; they are simply higher in some cases than they were before.

As he escalates a trade war with China, Trump refuses to recognize a reality that his own chief economic adviser, Larry Kudlow, has acknowledged. Tariffs are mainly, if not entirely, paid by companies and consumers in the country that imposes them. China is not sending billions of dollars to the U.S. treasury.

In a study in May, the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, with Princeton and Columbia universities, estimated that tariffs from Trump's trade dispute with China were costing $831 per U.S. household on an annual basis, before tariffs were recently escalated. Analysts also found that the burden of Trump's tariffs falls entirely on U.S. consumers and businesses that buy imported products.

A report this month by JPMorgan Chase estimated that tariffs would cost the average American household $1,000 per year if tariffs on another $300 billion of U.S. imports from China proceed in September and December. Trump has since bumped up the scheduled levies even higher, likely adding to the U.S. burden. He announced Friday that tariffs on the $300 billion in goods would increase from 10% to 15%; existing tariffs on another $250 billion in Chinese imports would go from 25% to 30% on Oct. 1 after public feedback.

Trump also has threatened anew to place tariffs on French wine imports to the U.S. in a spat over France's digital services tax; the European Union promised to retaliate. On Sunday, after saying he had "second thoughts" about the trade war with China, the White House later made clear his only regret was that he didn't raise tariffs higher.

The Congressional Budget Office said last week that "trade policies" were weighing on U.S. economic activity, particularly business investment.

"Businesses' uncertainty about trade policies is expected to continue to weigh on private investment and, thus, output," it said.

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TRUMP, asked if he should take responsibility for a 600-point drop Friday in the Dow Jones industrial average spurred by his escalating trade war: "Not at all. Because if you look at from November 9th — the day after the election — we're up 50% or more. We're up many, many points. We were at about sixteen or seventeen thousand. We're at 25,000." — remarks Friday night to reporters.

TRUMP, on the news media: "They are trying to force a Recession, they are trying to 'will' America into ... bad Economic times." — tweets Sunday.

THE FACTS: He's inflating the stock market performance since he was elected.

The Dow closed at 18,590 on Nov. 9, 2016, the day after Trump's election, and it closed at 25,627 last Friday — a 38% increase.

While Trump now regularly praises a rising stock market and blasts those who try to promote "bad economic times," he wasn't always such a big cheerleader.

During the 2016 campaign, Trump derided the economic recovery under Obama as a mirage, dismissing stock gains and warning of recession. "The only thing that looks good is the stock market, but if you raise interest rates even a little bit, that's going to come crashing down," Trump said in Sept. 2016. "We are in a big, fat, ugly bubble."

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TRUMP: "I don't think we're having a recession. We're doing tremendously well ... And most economists actually say that we're not going to have a recession." — remarks to reporters in Morristown, New Jersey.

THE FACTS: Actually, most economists — about 74% — do expect a recession in the U.S. by the end of 2021.

The economists surveyed by the National Association for Business Economics mostly didn't share Trump's optimistic outlook for the economy. Thirty-four percent of the economists said they believe a slowing economy will tip into recession in 2021. That's compares with 25% in the February survey.

An additional 38% of those polled predicted that recession will occur next year, down slightly from 42% in February. An additional 2% of those polled expect a recession to begin this year.

The 226 economists responding work mainly for corporations and trade associations.

The economists have previously expressed concern that Trump's tariffs and higher budget deficits could eventually slow the economy.

The Trump administration has imposed tariffs on goods from many key U.S. trading partners, from China and Europe to Mexico and Canada. On Friday, Trump escalated his trade fight with China by raising retaliatory tariffs and ordering American companies to consider alternatives to doing business there, maintaining that the tariffs will help the administration gain more favorable terms of trade. But U.S. trading partners have also retaliated with tariffs of their own.

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TRUMP: "The Economy is doing really well. The Federal Reserve can easily make it Record Setting! The question is being asked, why are we paying much more in interest than Germany and certain other countries?" — tweet Thursday.

TRUMP: "Germany sells 30 year bonds offering negative yields. Germany competes with the USA. Our Federal Reserve does not allow us to do what we must do. They put us at a disadvantage against our competition." — tweet Thursday.

THE FACTS: Trump misrepresents the impact of Federal Reserve policies and is mistaken about Germany's economy, suggesting that it enjoys some kind of advantage. In fact, the negative yields are a sign of that economy's weakness.

The German economy shrank in the previous quarter and there are expectations from investment banks that Germany soon could fall into a recession. Nor is the phenomenon isolated to Germany. Japan and much of Europe are also struggling with interest rates on government debt that are negative or close to negative.

Investors are betting that stimulus efforts by the European Central Bank will keep rates persistently low. But the negative interest rates on German bonds also reflect that government's aversion to issuing debt, even though the borrowing would allow it to spend more on roads and bridges to spur stronger economic growth.

By having even slightly positive interest rates compared to the rest of the world, the United States is in a better position to attract global investment.

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MIGRANTS

TRUMP: "President Obama had separation. I'm the one that brought them together. This new rule will do even more to bring them together. But it was President Obama that had the separation." — remarks Wednesday to reporters.

THE FACTS: Trump is distorting the truth. The separation of thousands of migrant children from their parents resulted from his "zero tolerance" policy. Obama had no such policy. After a public outcry and a court order, Trump generally ceased the practice and largely reunited families his policy had driven apart.

Zero tolerance meant that U.S. authorities would criminally prosecute all adults caught crossing into the U.S. illegally. Doing so meant detention for adults and the removal of their children while their parents were in custody. During the Obama administration, such family separations were the exception. They became the practice under Trump's policy, which he suspended a year ago.

His administration is now moving to end an agreement limiting how long migrant children can be kept in detention. The new rules being adopted by the Homeland Security Department seek to keep families together by holding children in detention longer than the generally held limit of 20 days set by a federal court settlement.

Before Trump's zero-tolerance policy, migrant families caught illegally entering the U.S. were usually referred for civil deportation proceedings, not requiring separation, unless they were known to have a criminal record. Then and now, immigration officials may take a child from a parent in certain cases, such as serious criminal charges against a parent, concerns over the health and welfare of a child or medical concerns.

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GUN VIOLENCE

TRUMP, on prospects for gun control after mass shootings in Texas and Ohio: "We have very, very strong background checks right now. ... And we're looking at different things. And I have to tell you that it is a mental problem. And I've said it a hundred times: It's not the gun that pulls the trigger; it's the person that pulls the trigger." — remarks Tuesday with Romania's president.

TRUMP: "I don't want people to forget that this is a mental health problem. ... Just remember this: Big mental problem, and we do have a lot of background checks right now." — remarks Sunday to reporters in Morristown, New Jersey.

THE FACTS: He's oversimplifying the role of mental illness in public mass shootings and playing down the ease with which Americans can get firearms.

Most people with mental illness are not violent and they are far more likely to be victims of violent crime than perpetrators, according to mental health experts. They say that access to firearms actually is a big part of the problem.

Arthur Evans, chief executive officer of the American Psychological Association, said that red flag laws urged by Trump, which are also known as extreme risk protection orders, are a worthwhile step. Seventeen states and the District of Columbia have such laws, according to the nonprofit Giffords Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence; some have used the laws to temporarily disarm people who have threatened violence.

But Evans and others said assigning too much blame to those with mental illness adds to stigma that keeps people from getting treatment.

A country's rate of gun ownership is a far better predictor of public mass shootings than indicators of mental illness, said Adam Lankford, a University of Alabama criminologist who published a 2016 analysis of data from 171 countries.

"The key of what's going on here is access to guns for people who are dangerous or disturbed," Lankford said. Red flag laws make it easier to disarm people believed to be a danger to themselves or others, "but sometimes there are not clear warning signs or those signs are not reported to the authorities until after an attack," he said.

Last month, the U.S. Secret Service released a report on mass public attacks in 2018, finding that "no single profile" can be used "to predict who will engage in targeted violence" and "mental illness, alone, is not a risk factor."

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AUTOS

TRUMP: "The Legendary Henry Ford and Alfred P. Sloan, the Founders of Ford Motor Company and General Motors, are 'rolling over' at the weakness of current car company executives." — tweet Wednesday.

THE FACTS: He's incorrect that Sloan is the founder of General Motors.

William Durant started GM in 1908, combining several companies that produced Buick, Oldsmobile, Cadillac and other vehicles. Sloan was a longtime president, CEO and chairman of GM, leading the company from the 1920s to the 1950s.

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TRUMP: "My proposal to the politically correct Automobile Companies would lower the average price of a car to consumers by more than $3000, while at the same time making the cars substantially safer. Engines would run smoother. Very little impact on the environment! Foolish executives!" — tweet Wednesday.

THE FACTS: Trump is inflating the projected savings to consumers under his plan to freeze Obama-era fuel economy requirements at 2021 levels. He's also minimizing the potential environmental harm.

His administration, in documents proposing to freeze the standards, puts the cost of meeting the Obama-era requirements at around $2,700 per vehicle. It claims buyers would save that much by 2025, over standards in place in 2016. But that number is disputed by environmental groups and is more than double the estimates from the Obama administration.

Trump's tweet also is ignoring money that consumers would save at the gas pump if cars get better mileage. A study released Aug. 7 by Consumer Reports found that the owner of a 2026 vehicle will pay over $3,300 more for gasoline during the life of a vehicle if the standards are frozen at 2021 levels. The administration's proposed freeze would hold the average fuel economy for the new-vehicle fleet at 29.1 mpg in real-world driving, while the Obama-era standards would raise it to 37.5 mpg by 2026, according to Consumer Reports.

Trump claims his proposal would cause little environmental harm, but documents from his administration say that U.S. fuel consumption would increase by about 500,000 barrels per day, a 2% to 3% increase. Environmental groups predict even more fuel consumed, resulting in higher pollution.

Trump's statement that cars would be substantially safer also is in dispute. His administration argues that lower-cost vehicles would allow more people to buy new ones that are safer, cutting roadway deaths by 12,700 lives through the 2029 model year. But Consumer Reports says any safety impact from changes in gas mileage standards are small and won't vary much from zero.

And there's little basis for Trump's claim that engines would run more smoothly. Early versions of cars with more fuel-efficient transmissions, turbochargers and technology that stops engines at red lights were rough, but those have been refined. "The automakers have figured out how to use this technology and make the cars smoother driving, too," said Jake Fisher, Consumer Reports director of auto testing.

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VETERANS

TRUMP: "My administration has worked aggressively to boost veterans employment, and we're setting records. ... Veterans unemployment has reached the lowest level ever recorded." — remarks Wednesday at AMVETS convention in Louisville, Kentucky.

THE FACTS: It's true that the unemployment rate for veterans fell to 2.3% in April, matching the low set in May 2000 under President Bill Clinton. But this figure is volatile on a monthly basis, not adjusted for seasonal changes, and has since risen. The figure stood at 3.4% in July, according to the Labor Department.

Veterans' unemployment has fallen mostly for the same reasons that joblessness has dropped generally: strong hiring and steady economic growth over the past decade dating to the Obama administration.

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TRUMP: "The VA is now providing same-day emergency mental health care and mental health screenings to every patient that walks through the door." — AMVETS convention.

THE FACTS: Same-day mental health service started at VA before Trump took office in January 2017.

VA's effort to provide same-day primary and mental-health care when medically necessary at every VA medical center was publicized in April 2016, during the Obama administration. By late 2016, the department's blog announced that goal would be achieved by year's end.

A Dec. 23, 2016, article in the Harvard Business Review cites new same-day services at all VA hospitals as evidence of notable progress at the department. Former VA Secretary David Shulkin told Congress in late January 2017 the services already were fully in place.

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TRUMP: "Veterans Choice, as you've been trying to get that for 44 years, they say — 44 years. I guess it's longer than that; probably earlier than that. But for 44 years, at least, that we know of. And you got it." — AMVETS convention.

THE FACTS: You wouldn't know from Trump's boasting that it was Obama who won passage of the Veterans Choice program, which gives veterans the option to see private doctors outside the VA medical system at government expense. Congress approved the program in 2014, and Obama signed it into law. Trump expanded it. Its ultimate scope remains uncertain, in part because of questions of money.

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JUDGES

TRUMP: "We will have, within another 90 days, 179 federal judges. And I say, 'Thank you very much, President Obama.' Because he was unable to get them filled. I don't know what happened to him, but he was unable. So, President Obama did not do his job." — remarks on Aug. 18 to reporters in Morristown, New Jersey.

TRUMP: "Within about two months, we'll be at 179 federal judges and two Supreme Court judges." — AMVETS convention on Wednesday.

THE FACTS: Trump does have a stronger record than Obama so far in picking federal judges, but it isn't due to complacency from the Obama administration. Instead, unprecedented lack of action by the Republican-controlled Senate on Obama's judicial nominees in his last two years in office left Trump more vacancies to fill.

Of the 71 people whom Obama nominated to the district courts and courts of appeals in 2015 and 2016, only 20 were voted on and confirmed, said Russell Wheeler, an expert on judicial nominees at the Brookings Institution. Trump entered office in January 2017 with more than 100 vacancies on the federal bench, about double the number Obama had in 2009. Trump has since been aided by Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., who has pushed through Trump's nominations of appeals court judges in particular.

Wheeler said Trump has had 146 judges confirmed and seated — a pace that is solid but not extraordinary . At least four other presidents — Clinton, John Kennedy and Richard Nixon in modern times as well as George Washington — surpassed him at comparable points in their terms in the number of appointees as a percentage of "authorized judgeships," or the total judicial seats created by Congress.

Wheeler doesn't put much stock in Trump's claim of reaching 179 federal judges within two months. Twenty-five nominees have had their Senate hearings and may be ready to be voted on soon, but that doesn't mean it will happen. "It's a moving target," he said.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ap-fact-check-trumps-illusory-040355752.html

 

 

B/A

[MyLadiesDaddy]

1 hour ago, nstoolman1 said:

 

Nice summary of your posts about Trump. 

That's what I thought 

[bostonangler]

As Trade War Drags, China Scoops Up South American Soy for 2020

(Bloomberg) -- Terms of Trade is a daily newsletter that untangles a world embroiled in trade wars. Sign up here. 

As confusion about the possibility of a trade deal between Washington and Beijing reigns, Chinese soybean buyers are taking no chances and are turning to U.S. rivals in South America to secure supplies for next year.

The top importer of the commodity, used to make cooking oil and animal feed, has already started buying soybeans from South American for next year, according to people familiar with the matter. While China started purchasing a few cargoes just over a month ago, buyers last week stepped up interest for February and March shipments, said the people, who asked not to be named as the negotiations are private.

China buying from South America isn’t new -- producers in Brazil and neighboring countries have been the Asian nation’s main suppliers during the trade war. But locking in purchases this far in advance is a sign that Chinese consumers may be securing themselves against an even more protracted dispute with the U.S.

The move comes amid conflicting signs on what the actual chances are for a resolution. While Donald Trump said Monday the prospects for a deal with China are better now than at any time since negotiations began last year, a top state-media editor in Beijing questioned his version of events. That followed an escalation of the trade war on Friday, in which Trump raised tariffs to be imposed on China just hours after the Asian nation announced retaliatory duties.

Chinese firms are also taking advantage of cheaper prices in South America for next year’s crop. While Brazilian soybeans for loading in September are trading at a premium of almost $1.50 a bushel over futures in Chicago, supplies for March are only at a 40-cent premium, according to data from brokerage Ary Oleofar.

Despite increasing South American purchases, China has no current plans to cancel U.S. cargoes that it’s already purchased, according to the people. U.S. government data indicates China bought about 14 million metric tons of soybeans in the current season, with just over 2 million tons still to be shipped.

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/trade-war-drags-china-scoops-165803700.html

 

 

Yup, he's got a deal going alright.

B/A

[bigwave]

HUGE! China Caves — Announces Willingness to Seek Calm End to Trade War After Markets Crash

President Trump yesterday announced that the US will increase tariffs on China and then ordered all US firms to begin seeking alternatives to doing business with China!

The Chinese regime is in a perilous position and has only two choices.

The regime can either give the US what it wants or perish.

President Trump recognizes that China is in an all out war with the US in regards to information and economics.  For years Western leaders have done nothing but negotiate into weak positions, never standing up to the Communist regime.  Former US Presidents treated China like they did Russia 50 years ago, as their superior always giving them what they wanted and never standing up to their abuse and criminal acts.

It is different with President Trump.  The President knows he has the authority and ability to inflict a fatal blow to the Chinese economy.  The US is arguably in its best economic period in history while China’s economy is its weakest in 30 years. 

 

The President knows that now is the time.  China cannot handle the US tariffs while their economy implodes.  They are on the brink of a massive economic collapse, so colossal that the regime is in danger of being dethroned!

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/08/huge-china-caves-announces-willingness-to-seek-calm-end-to-trade-war-after-markets-crash/

 

[umbertino]

6 hours ago, bostonangler said:

 

I think that is an exaggeration. China has billions more people than Japan... What is Japan going to do with all that corn, make it into clothing?

 

B/A

 

 

Right, of course

 

 

 

China/Population 2019 (live)

 

https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/china-population/

 

 

 

Japan population 2019 (live)

 

 

https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/japan-population/

 

 

 

 

 

[umbertino]

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Trump WAS right AGAIN 

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Hello, LGD....Is he ever wrong? Or....Is he Infallible just like God?

 

Inquiring minds would love to know

[umbertino]

On 8/22/2019 at 3:20 PM, bostonangler said:

 

I'm sure the agenda is much more complicated and devious than any of us can imagine.

 

B/A

 

We get to learn and realize that since we are teens at least...

 

That Life IS INDEED COMPLICATED AND A PAIN IN THE BUTT MOST TIMES ( UNLESS YOU'RE RICH, POWERFUL, A POLITICIAN, A RECKLESS INDIVIDUAL ETC).....

 

I'm talking for the majority of us , little and honest People

 

Living is a tough task usually......

[nstoolman1]

1 hour ago, umbertino said:

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Trump WAS right AGAIN 

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Hello, LGD....Is he ever wrong? Or....Is he Infallible just like God?

 

Inquiring minds would love to know

Not LGD.

I am sure he has been wrong a few times in his life. Hopefully he learns from his mistakes. The problem is his detractors won't ever give him credit for being right. The hate him so much they can't give him credit when he deserves it. And if they do they will also throw in a dig or insult at the same time.

[umbertino]

On 8/22/2019 at 2:53 PM, bostonangler said:

Thanks negmiester... We should all be negging these economic policies and budgets as they continue to sink America... Too bad people are so easily conned.

 

B/A

 

Exactly...Actually I'm convinced there's more than just one ( red negmiester)...They meet secretly when they come out of their caves and plot and decide who is gonna be the next targets.....I mean besides the obvious, myself.....) of their negging....And they have a helluva lot of Fun in doing this....It's surely their main motivation for waking up and get out of bed in the morning / afternoon /  night.....

 

They're probably kinda giddy folks  after all......And Fun to be around......

[umbertino]

1 hour ago, nstoolman1 said:

Not LGD.

I am sure he has been wrong a few times in his life. Hopefully he learns from his mistakes. The problem is his detractors won't ever give him credit for being right. The hate him so much they can't give him credit when he deserves it. And if they do they will also throw in a dig or insult at the same time.

 

 

Ok...Thanks...

 

When you say "Not LGD" you mean that statement originally came from you and I mistook it for LGD's?

[nstoolman1]

No. You asked the question of LGD and when I answered I wanted to make sure you understood it was me and not him that answered.

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[Mother F]

Stop whining about your Reds Umbertino. 

I haven’t posted in years but I’ve been around. You need to get a life. You’ve been posting nonstop for 3 days. 

[yota691]

25 minutes ago, Mother F said:

Stop whining  

It's 2019 folks get so easily Offended aka BH....

[umbertino]

7 hours ago, nstoolman1 said:

No. You asked the question of LGD and when I answered I wanted to make sure you understood it was me and not him that answered.

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Understood....Thanks

[umbertino]

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Posted 7 hours ago

8 hours ago, nstoolman1 said:

Not LGD.

I am sure he has been wrong a few times in his life. Hopefully he learns from his mistakes. The problem is his detractors won't ever give him credit for being right. The hate him so much they can't give him credit when he deserves it. And if they do they will also throw in a dig or insult at the same time.

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Ok...Thanks...

 

When you say "Not LGD" you mean that statement originally came from you and I mistook it for LGD's?

 

 

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I'm asking that question calmly and relaxedly...

 

What ìs the point in giving 3 ngs to the post above?????

 

Just want to understand possibly....Thanks in advance

 

No bad words and no nothing that I used in the above quoted post, nor now.........Just a simple question which I asked kindly.......What's the motive other than hate?

Edited August 27, 2019 by umbertino

[umbertino]

I fail to see any reasons other than that (hate and nothing else).....

 

Please, nstoolman1...I am also asking for your input as well about this....What you think  I said wrong this time to deserve 3 negs in the above post in your opinion? Thanks in advance

 

 

Edited August 27, 2019 by umbertino

[umbertino]

 

 

I honestly think / believe it would be a billion times much more sincere for someone(s) here to admit :

" You are not saying any particularly bad or wrong things in your posts  I / we neg ( practically all your, umb's, posts) regularly ...It's just that we hate you cos you're left-wing. That's the only reason.Period"

 

Ok...I'd have at least a li'l bit of respect if someone / anyone had the attributes to acknowledge that and just admit it...So I'll know once and for all....( I already do, matter of fact but I'd love to see some honesty and sincerity at least once and hear things for what they really are...To see some / all my neggers simply man up for once...just  that...is that too much to ask?)

Edited August 27, 2019 by umbertino