bostonangler Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 More than 600 clergy and lay members of the United Methodist Church have signed a letter bringing church charges against fellow member Attorney General Jeff Sessions for the zero tolerance immigration policy that has resulted in the separation of undocumented children from their parents at the U.S.-Mexico border. The formal accusation, issued on Monday, charges Sessions with numerous violations of the denomination’s Book of Discipline, including child abuse, immorality, racial discrimination and, for his citation of Romans 13 to defend the policy, the dissemination of doctrines contrary to the standards of the UMC. Those who signed the complaint letter claim that Sessions’ “tremendous social/political power,” his role as a Sunday school teacher and the “severe and ongoing” effects of his actions compel them to call for accountability. “As members of the United Methodist Church, we deeply hope for a reconciling process that will help this long-time member of our connection step back from his harmful actions and work to repair the damage he is currently causing to immigrants, particularly children and families,” the letter states. Justice Department spokeswoman Sarah Isgur Flores declined to comment directly on the church charges against Sessions. She said, “The AG’s comments on Scripture were not to justify the policy but in response to other criticism.” In May, Sessions announced that the Departments of Justice and Homeland Security are aiming to prosecute 100 percent of cases of illegal border crossings, regardless of whether those involved are fleeing persecution or traveling with children. The U.S. government separated nearly 2,000 children from their parents in April and May as a result of this policy, placing the minors in shelters or with extended family members while their parents are prosecuted. Sessions has drawn widespread condemnation after using a chapter from the Bible to respond to religious critics of the policy. “Concerns raised by our church friends about separating families” are “not fair or logical,” he said in a speech in Fort Wayne, Indiana. “I would cite you to the Apostle Paul and his clear and wise command in Romans 13 to obey the laws of the government because God has ordained them for the purpose of order.” “I have given the idea of immigration much thought and have considered the arguments of our church leaders,” Sessions continued. “I do not believe Scripture or church history or reason condemns a secular nation-state for having reasonable immigration laws. If we have them, then they should be enforced.” The United Methodist Church is the third-largest religious denomination in the U.S., with over 7 million lay members. Sessions is a member of a Methodist church in Mobile, Alabama, and attends services at another Methodist church in Virginia. HuffPost has reached out to the pastors of both congregations for comment but has not heard back. According to United Methodist News, the denomination’s official news site, it’s rare for Methodists to bring formal charges against a layperson. Complaints that come up are typically resolved at the local level, after a member’s pastor and district superintendent offer counseling. If the complaint isn’t resolved, it’s possible for charges to result in a church trial and even expulsion. This has reportedly never happened in the church’s history. The Rev. David Wright, a UMC pastor and chaplain at the University of Puget Sound in Washington state, was the primary organizer of the letter against Sessions. Wright told United Methodist News that he doesn’t want Sessions to be expelled from the denomination but is hoping the charges result in Sessions’ being called in for pastoral counseling. “I hope his pastor can have a good conversation with him and come to a good resolution that helps him reclaim his values that many of us feel he’s violated as a Methodist,” Wright said. Many Christian leaders have rejected Sessions’ interpretation of Romans 13 and spoke out against the zero tolerance policy, including the Council of Bishops of the United Methodist Church. “Our congregations and agencies serve many migrant families that have recently arrived in the United States. Leaving their communities is often the only option they have to provide safety for their children and protect them from harm,” the council said in a June 7 statement. “Tearing children away from parents who have made a dangerous journey to provide a safe and sufficient life for them is unnecessarily cruel and detrimental to the well-being of parents and children.” Sessions’ Mobile church, Ashland Place, is part of the UMC’s Alabama–West Florida Conference, which has also been critical of the policy. A spokeswoman for the conference declined to comment to HuffPost about the charges brought against Sessions, saying that details about any complaint are confidential. In a statement released Monday, the conference’s Bishop David Graves decried separating children from their parents as “unjust acts.” “I implore congress and the current administration to do all in their power to reunite these families,” he said. https://www.yahoo.com/news/methodists-bring-church-charges-against-165117226.html B/A 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bohica Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 I personally know about many of the 'methodist' ministers. I could not give a rat's ass if they disapproved of something or someone or not. Actually the more they disapprove of something or someone the more I think I would actually like that thing or person. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nstoolman1 Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 Church's need to stay out of politics. Social issues are another matter. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavyduty053 Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 Funny they mention the Book of Discipline on this because the Methodist Conference have a vote coming up in February concerning letting Gays and Lesbians step into the pulpits. This is spelled out in the Discipline that it is against it and they shouldn't even consider a vote on this issue. God will not like this one bit for even considering this because they know its wrong and if it is approved I will be one that will resign from the Methodist. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bohica Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 Hey...I got a red badge....COOL 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shabibilicious Posted June 22, 2018 Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 (edited) Separating children from their families is indeed a social issue.....Social Workers actually visit troubled homes for that very reason....So, Yes..social issue, therefore Church business. GO RV, then BV Edited June 22, 2018 by Shabibilicious 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sentinel7 Posted June 22, 2018 Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 You mean the social workers that go in and remove the children from their parents and home No Surrender No Retreat and No Compromise 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shabibilicious Posted June 22, 2018 Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, Sentinel7 said: You mean the social workers that go in and remove the children from their parents and home No Surrender No Retreat and No Compromise Sure do.....that would be a social issue, therefore, church business. GO RV, then BV 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nstoolman1 Posted June 22, 2018 Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 Social workers are government paid so they are a wing of political power. They are so full of themselves they feel they have god like powers to make life altering decisions. They do not have the best interest at heart for some of these kids. Some one makes a false claim and kids are ripped away from parents and the parents are forced to prove their innocence. Once removed it takes an act of God to get them back together. Some one from a church or hospital should be going in first to check out if abuse or poor living condition exist, then CPS can come in with the legal force and issue the corrections needed. Too many kids are taken away from a parent during a divorce or custody battle purely on the accusation of the losing party. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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