caz1104 Posted July 9, 2019 Report Share Posted July 9, 2019 (edited) 26 minutes ago, bostonangler said: And yet you back increased spending and reduced revenue... Explain how that is conservative. Seriously. B/A explain/show where I've EVER said im for increased spending (minus military & the wall). I believe firmly that our Gov should be nothing more than a protector of its LEGAL citizens & uphold the constitution....period Edited July 9, 2019 by caz1104 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonangler Posted July 9, 2019 Report Share Posted July 9, 2019 Just now, caz1104 said: explain/show where I've EVER said im for increased spending (minus military & the wall) That is increased spending.... You are for Trump, Trump is increasing the debt just like Obama, I don't see conservative... B/A 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caz1104 Posted July 9, 2019 Report Share Posted July 9, 2019 I'll try speak slower this time for u.......I'm for fed gov only two functions.... 1)Protecting its legal citizens... thus military & wall.....2)upholding the constituition. anything else should be handled at the local level. If you don't see how that would reduce spending by nearly 90%, & curb our dependence on fed/gov then I don't know what else to tell u 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markb57 Posted July 9, 2019 Report Share Posted July 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, caz1104 said: I'll try speak slower this time for u.......I'm for fed gov only two functions.... 1)Protecting its legal citizens... thus military & wall.....2)upholding the constituition. anything else should be handled at the local level. If you don't see how that would reduce spending by nearly 90%, & curb our dependence on fed/gov then I don't know what else to tell u And that is exactly the true function of govt. Those two items ONLY! Agree 100%... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caz1104 Posted July 9, 2019 Report Share Posted July 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, markb57 said: And that is exactly the true function of govt. Those two items ONLY! Agree 100%... ....everything else is why we're at where we are 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonangler Posted July 9, 2019 Report Share Posted July 9, 2019 So, caz and markb57 our government shouldn't do anything but spend money on our military and build a wall? I guess they never served. Or drove down a highway. Or walked to their mailbox. Or took a walk through one of our national parks. Or... Forget it. There is no reasoning with the unreasonable. B/A 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markb57 Posted July 9, 2019 Report Share Posted July 9, 2019 Give me a year and I will drop the budget 90%. Then you cut taxes. If states want something or want to start a program, let them handle it. Or better yet, don't cut taxes till the 22 trillion is paid off. Then cut taxes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonangler Posted July 9, 2019 Report Share Posted July 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, markb57 said: Give me a year and I will drop the budget 90%. Then you cut taxes. If states want something or want to start a program, let them handle it. Or better yet, don't cut taxes till the 22 trillion is paid off. Then cut taxes. I agree.. But the parties are enjoying their party too much. B/A 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markb57 Posted July 9, 2019 Report Share Posted July 9, 2019 well, unfortunately you're right about that...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caz1104 Posted July 9, 2019 Report Share Posted July 9, 2019 54 minutes ago, bostonangler said: So, caz and markb57 our government shouldn't do anything but spend money on our military and build a wall? I guess they never served. Or drove down a highway. Or walked to their mailbox. Or took a walk through one of our national parks. Or... Forget it. There is no reasoning with the unreasonable. B/A not unreasonable....its what our founding fathers intended. All of those things mention (mail, national parks) were never meant to be under the umbrella of the fed/gov. that fell under Local/states .....nothing hard. Can you not see how much more effiecent that would be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonangler Posted July 9, 2019 Report Share Posted July 9, 2019 9 minutes ago, caz1104 said: not unreasonable....its what our founding fathers intended. All of those things mention (mail, national parks) were never meant to be under the umbrella of the fed/gov. that fell under Local/states .....nothing hard. Can you not see how much more effiecent that would be? I can see the efficiency… I also see us with a bloated military policing the world. I don't think our founding fathers foresaw that. Or us giving every country in the world money. Or selling our oil, then buying oil from a bunch of camel herders. I know our founding fathers never saw individuals paying income taxes, only corporations... It was in 1913 when the banksters and corporate giants figured out they could make us pay. I totally agree, the government was set up to serve the states, not the other way around. B/A 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caz1104 Posted July 9, 2019 Report Share Posted July 9, 2019 25 minutes ago, bostonangler said: I can see the efficiency… I also see us with a bloated military policing the world. I don't think our founding fathers foresaw that. Or us giving every country in the world money. Or selling our oil, then buying oil from a bunch of camel herders. I know our founding fathers never saw individuals paying income taxes, only corporations... It was in 1913 when the banksters and corporate giants figured out they could make us pay. I totally agree, the government was set up to serve the states, not the other way around. B/A I don't understand how u get "bloated military". But yes end of the free monies to countries of the world is an absolute.....they hate us anyway and never pay us back. Flat tax on what one spends would provide more than enough revenue and rid us of the IRS. Abolish the Fed/Gov machine as it's known today would rid us of many ill's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umbertino Posted July 10, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2019 Rip Torn, cult actor and Artie in the Larry Sanders Show dies aged 88 Star of a string of 60s classics fell foul of Hollywood because of his temper but found a fresh lease of life in comedy, from TV’s Larry Sanders Show to the Men in Black films Andrew Pulver Wed 10 Jul 2019 07.36 BST First published on Wed 10 Jul 2019 04.09 BST Rip Torn in 2007’s The Golden Boys Photograph: Alamy https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2019/jul/10/rip-torn-cult-actor-dies-aged-88 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umbertino Posted July 10, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2019 Storm may push Mississippi River to tops of levees that protect New Orleans New Orleans is protected to river level of 20ft but was forecast to rise above flood stage to 19ft by Friday Guardian staff and agencies Wed 10 Jul 2019 15.16 BST https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jul/10/mississippi-river-levees-new-orleans-rain-flooding Hundreds of cyclists hold 'die-in' in New York City to protest deaths Three cyclists were killed in one week: ‘People are literally dying on the streets because they’re not being adequately protected’ Lauren Aratani in New York Wed 10 Jul 2019 14.27 BST Hundreds of New York City cyclists at a mass ‘die-in’ at Washington Square Park Tuesday Photograph: Erik McGregor/Zuma Wire/Rex/Shutterstock More pics https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jul/10/hundreds-of-cyclists-hold-die-in-in-new-york-city-to-protest-deaths 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umbertino Posted July 12, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2019 $32m stolen from Tokyo cryptocurrency exchange in latest hack Bitpoint suspends services after apparent theft of virtual monies including bitcoin Shane Hickey Fri 12 Jul 2019 13.04 BST Last modified on Fri 12 Jul 2019 13.26 BST https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/jul/12/tokyo-cryptocurrency-exchange-hack-bitpoint-bitcoin 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonangler Posted July 12, 2019 Report Share Posted July 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, umbertino said: $32m stolen from Tokyo cryptocurrency exchange in latest hack Bitpoint suspends services after apparent theft of virtual monies including bitcoin Shane Hickey Fri 12 Jul 2019 13.04 BST Last modified on Fri 12 Jul 2019 13.26 BST https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/jul/12/tokyo-cryptocurrency-exchange-hack-bitpoint-bitcoin I know people have made fortunes on this, but it scares me. And I don't like the idea of digital money... There will be no working under the table or hiding cash in mason jars out back!!! They will know exactly how much everyone has... B/A 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umbertino Posted July 13, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2019 Facebook to be fined $5bn for Cambridge Analytica privacy violations – reports The $5bn fine would be the largest ever levied by the Federal Trade Commission against a technology company Julia Carrie Wong in San Francisco Fri 12 Jul 2019 23.12 BST https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/jul/12/facebook-fine-ftc-privacy-violations Tropical Storm Barry picks up power as it bears down on Louisiana New Orleans residents told to seek shelter as 50,000 coastal residents left without power Agencies Sat 13 Jul 2019 15.39 BST First published on Sat 13 Jul 2019 10.38 BST Tropical Storm Barry is pictured approaching the coast of Louisiana from the Gulf of Mexico Photograph: Reuters https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jul/13/louisiana-in-state-of-emergency-bracing-for-tropical-storm-barry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umbertino Posted July 14, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2019 'Bent' pyramid: Egypt opens ancient oddity for tourism Pharoah Sneferu’s structure marks key step in Egyptian architecture, as builders had to change the angle when it started to crack Reuters Sun 14 Jul 2019 03.42 BST Last modified on Sun 14 Jul 2019 15.37 BST King Sneferu, the first pharaoh of Egypt’s 4th dynasty, built three major pyramids, including the pioneering ‘bent’ pyramid, now open to the public Photograph: Mohamed El-Shahed/AFP/Getty Images More pics https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jul/14/bent-pyramid-egypt-opens-ancient-oddity-for-tourism 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umbertino Posted July 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2019 Asleep at the wheel: Japanese rental cars used for anything but driving Surveys shed light on unusual habits of drivers who return cars with zero mileage on clock Justin McCurry in Tokyo Mon 15 Jul 2019 11.33 BST Cars can be reserved online in Japan for as little as 400 yen (£2.95...$3.69) for half an hour Photograph: Mark Thomas/Getty Images/Axiom RM https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jul/15/asleep-at-wheel-japanese-rental-cars-used-anything-but-driving 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umbertino Posted July 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 $800,000 spent at jeweller in one day on Najib Razak's credit cards, court hears Platinum cards of former Malaysian prime minister used for spree at jeweller in Italy, say prosecutors Hannah Ellis-Petersen South-east Asia correspondent Tue 16 Jul 2019 06.29 BST Former Malaysian prime minister Najib Razak is fighting corruption charges related to the Malaysian government’s 1MDB fund Photograph: Fazry Ismail/EPA https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jul/16/800000-spent-jeweller-one-day-najib-razak-credit-cards-malaysia-court-hears 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caz1104 Posted July 16, 2019 Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 do you own stock in the guardian? 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umbertino Posted July 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 Police in Brazil shut down factory making fake Ferraris and Lamborghinis Father and son accused of offering the cars on social media for $45,000 to $60,000 – a fraction of the price of the real thing AP in Rio de Janeiro Tue 16 Jul 2019 23.34 BST Luxury car replicas inside a workshop in Brazil, where a father and son assembled fake Ferraris and Lamborghinis Photograph: AP More pics https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jul/17/police-in-brazil-shut-down-factory-making-fake-ferraris-and-lamborghinis 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umbertino Posted July 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 (edited) El Chapo: Mexican drug lord sentenced to life in prison US district judge imposed life sentence plus 30 years on Joaquín Guzmán at hearing in federal Brooklyn court Edward Helmore in New York and agency Wed 17 Jul 2019 17.15 BST Mexican drug trafficker Joaquín ‘El Chapo’ Guzmán is escorted by marines in 2014 Photograph: Ronaldo Schemidt/AFP/Getty Images https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jul/17/el-chapo-sentence-life-prison-mexican-drug-lord-trial FBI and Italian police arrest 19 people in Sicily and US in mafia investigation Prosecutors allege Inzerillo clan was seeking to rebuild power base in Palermo with help from allied New York-based Gambino family Angela Giuffrida in Rome and agencies in Palermo Wed 17 Jul 2019 18.07 BST Two policemen arrest Salvatore Gambino in Palermo, Italy, on Wednesday Photograph: Igor Petyx/EPA https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jul/17/fbi-mafia-arrests-us-italy-inzerillo-gambino Edited July 17, 2019 by umbertino 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonangler Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 8 hours ago, umbertino said: Police in Brazil shut down factory making fake Ferraris and Lamborghinis Father and son accused of offering the cars on social media for $45,000 to $60,000 – a fraction of the price of the real thing AP in Rio de Janeiro Tue 16 Jul 2019 23.34 BST Luxury car replicas inside a workshop in Brazil, where a father and son assembled fake Ferraris and Lamborghinis Photograph: AP More pics https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jul/17/police-in-brazil-shut-down-factory-making-fake-ferraris-and-lamborghinis Is nothing sacred??? LOL B/A 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umbertino Posted July 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, bostonangler said: Is nothing sacred??? LOL B/A Apparently not....But that thing has been going on for years here in Italy....It's usually a dead give away for police when it comes to pricing..... And I know the Santa Caterina state in Brazil is full of Italians.....So..... Sorry B/A...Usual issue w pluses.....Have to wait until I get re-loaded Edited July 17, 2019 by umbertino 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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