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Italy looks set for fresh elections as it enters third month without government

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President Sergio Mattarella calls for fresh consultations to try to make three main political forces agree deal to form government

 

 

Angela Giuffrida in Rome

Fri 4 May 2018 07.00 BST

 

 

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Counting votes during the Italian general election in March. The elections led to a political deadlock
Photograph: Giuseppe Lami/EPA
 
 
 
 
 
 
umb's note: We voted exactly 2 months ago ( 4 March)....Now we're being told that most likely we're going back to new elections  in a few months because these parties aren't able/willing to get a deal for forming a gov't.........I mean....Seriously....
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Govt with M5S till Dec, no technocrats Salvini says

Immediate electoral reform, block VAT ( value added tax), reject EU budget

 

Redazione ANSA Milan
04 May 201819:20 News

 

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Proud to have averted M5S deal - Renzi (PD) after Grillo(M5S) moots euro referendum

Former premier blasts Grillo talk of euro referendum

 

Redazione ANSA Rome
04 May 201816:55 News

 

 

 

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Do you have any links that clearly explain what the party options are.....and the good and the bad for each..........I could google it, but it wouldn't be anywhere as good as what you might provide as local views and explanation.......Thanks in advance.....CL....

 

People need to realize that what happens in Italy is key to what happens to the EU.........and will have an affect on the world as well......JMO

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9 hours ago, coorslite21 said:

Do you have any links that clearly explain what the party options are.....and the good and the bad for each..........I could google it, but it wouldn't be anywhere as good as what you might provide as local views and explanation.......Thanks in advance.....CL....

 

People need to realize that what happens in Italy is key to what happens to the EU.........and will have an affect on the world as well......JMO

 

 

Coorslite.....Thanks for the intelligent question which is appreciated....

 

Will try  to find some links with clear ( sigh....going to be difficult, I foresee...) explanations about the options

 

I am the first one to admit that Italian Politics is incomprehensible...even for Italians !

 

So it must be certainly something from Mars for non -Italians  and understandably so...

 

Oh, this Country of mine....

 

 

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This article dates back to 4 March, the day of the election...

 

Will try to find other more recent articles

 

 

The incredibly complex Italian election is today — here’s a simplified version of what you need to know

 

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http://uk.businessinsider.com/italy-election-2018-what-you-need-to-know-2018-2?IR=T

 

 

 

 

This one below dates 7 April

 

 

Italy's election was a month ago and the country is still without a government — here's a snapshot of the chaos

 

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This came out before the elections

 

 

These are the promises Italy's political parties have made to voters

 

Italy's election will take place on March 4th -- that much is certain. But with a new and untested electoral system, deep rifts in the ruling Democratic Party, and a possible comeback on the cards for one Silvio Berlusconi, anything could happen

 

 

The Local
23 January 2018
09:05 CET+01:00

 

 

 

 

https://www.thelocal.it/20180123/italian-election-2018-party-pledges-manifesto-democratic-m5s-northern-league-forza-italia

 

 

 

Italy elections: Here's what the next government could look like

 

Published 9:22 AM ET Thu, 15 March 2018

 

 

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/15/italy-elections-heres-what-the-next-government-could-look-like.html

 

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Italy election: Big gains for populist and far-right parties – but no clear winner

 

 

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/italy-election-today-2018-vote-polls-rome-berlusconi-result-when-latest-a8239246.html

 

 

 

Italian election: As it happened

 

The latest news, reaction and analysis as Italians head to the polls to elect a new government

 

 

By POLITICO

3/4/18, 12:00 PM CET

Updated 3/6/18, 1:48 PM CET  (2 days after election)

 

 

https://www.politico.eu/article/live-blog-italian-government-election/

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Election law made to stop us - Grillo (M5S Founder)

'We are in post-democracy' M5S founder tells Putsch

 

Redazione ANSA Paris
04 May 201815:09 News

 

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Italy set for caretaker government if last-ditch talks fail

 

President Sergio Mattarella will try once again on Monday to broker an agreement to form a viable government two months after Italy's inconclusive elections, following threats to name a team of technocrats instead

 

AFP
7 May 2018
09:07 CEST+02:00

 

 

Italy set for caretaker government if last-ditch talks fail
Journalists waiting at the presidential palace, where talks to form Italy's new government are ongoing. Photo: Fabio Frustaci/AFP
 
 
 
 
 
umb's note: Talks in progress right now ( most likely nothing will come out of it in terms of a gov't deal between different parties....In that case then The President  will take his decision and appoint one person of his choice)
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Laughable if it wasn't tragic in its (their...I mean all politicians involved and parties) ineptness......Effing  surreal situation

 

Italy might hold new elections in July

 

Italy could go back to the polls in two months' time after yet another round of talks failed to produce a working government

 

 

The Local/AFP
7 May 2018
16:03 CEST+02:00

 

 

Italy might hold new elections in July
Matteo Salvini of the League with his coalition partners at the presidential palace after Italy's latest round of unsuccessful talks. Photo: Tiziana Fabi/AFP

 

 

 

 

https://www.thelocal.it/20180507/italy-new-elections-july

 

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July 8 election if no govt deal, say Di Maio and Salvini

League leader says still trying to knock down vetoes

 

Redazione ANSA Rome
07 May 201815:23 News

 

(foto: ANSA)
© ANSA  Luigi di Maio (M5S) & Matteo Salvini ( League...Part of the centre-right coalition along w Berlusconi and Meloni)
 
 
 
 
 
It reads "xxxt" for the simple reason that it is xxxt...No excuses whatsoever.....
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President Mattarella proposes 'neutral govt' till Dec' or election

 

Executive would quit if political-govt deal reached - president

 

Redazione ANSA Rome
07 May 201819:27 News

 

 

 

 

 

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Five women said to be in running to become Italy's transitional PM

 

Some suggest President Sergio Mattarella sees stalemate as chance to break with tradition

 

Angela Giuffrida

Tue 8 May 2018 15.26 BST Last modified on Tue 8 May 2018 15.41 BST

 

 

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Fabiola Gianotti, the first female director of the European Organisation for Nuclear Research, is said to be one of the candidates (umb's note: never heard of her before on newspapers or news channels....seeing her today for the very 1st time....just saying....)
Photograph: AGF srl/REX
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Italian president says 'neutral' government should lead until end of year

 

Sergio Mattarella urges deadlocked political leaders to back ‘government of service’

 

Staff and agencies in Rome

Mon 7 May 2018 20.17 BST

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/07/sergio-mattarella-italian-president-neutral-government

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Maybe....Just maybe.....

League-M5S ask for 24 hours for last-ditch govt talks

Salvini and Di Maio meet face to face

 

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Italy's parties given 24 hours for make-or-break coalition talks

 

President Sergio Mattarella has given Italy's divided political parties 24 hours to try to reach a deal on a new government before he appoints a caretaker cabinet

 

 

The Local/AFP
9 May 2018
14:27 CEST+02:00
 

 

 

Italy's parties given 24 hours for make-or-break coalition talks
President Sergio Mattarella is giving Italy's parties one last shot at forming a government
Photo: Andreas Solaro/AFP
 
 
 
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Five Star and League move closer to forming Italian government

 

Prime minister expected to be chosen from one of two populist parties after talks prove positive

 

 

Angela Giuffrida in Rome

Thu 10 May 2018 12.47 BST

 

 

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Matteo Salvini, the leader of the League party, speaks to the press in Rome
Photograph: Antonio Masiello/Getty Images
 
 
 
 
 
 
Basically what happened was that Salvini supposedly convinced his right-centre partner Berlusconi (Forza Italia party ) to step aside and not creating an obstacle in forming a gov't deal, as requested by M5S.....
Or else there was the chance to return to new  elections  as soon as July even ( when most Italians go on vacation).....
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Berlusconi vows not to veto pact between Italy's populist parties

 

 

Former PM’s blessing paves way for the League and Five Star Movement to form a government

 

Angela Giuffrida in Rome

Wed 9 May 2018 22.43 BST

 

 

 

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Silvio Berlusconi says a League-M5S government won’t ‘mark the end of the centre-right alliance’. The two parties have been given 24 hours to clinch a deal.
Photograph: Simona Granati - Corbis/Corbis via Getty Images
 
umb's note: The guy is almost 82...Time to relax, Silvio.....Enjoy your Billions ( and your Viagra pills...His current GF is about 35 y.o.)  and just retire....
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Italy’s radical M5S and League on verge of forming government

 

After two months of post-election negotiations, a coalition agreement – if not a decision on a prime minister – seems imminent

 

Angela Giuffrida

Sat 12 May 2018 22.00 BST

 
 
 
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Luigi di Maio, left, leader of M5S, and Matteo Salvini of the League
Photograph: Tiziana Fabi/AFP/Getty Images
 
 
 
 

 

 

 

umb's note: If this thing really is able to take off, then  it will be the most populist gov't Italy has ever had...And Voters will keep the 2 parties accountable for their promises....

 

M5S has promised to give everybody ( without a sufficient income) EUR 780 ($936) and more for Families but they must go look for jobs and enroll in the employment agencies ( which are terrible  here anyway...in that they are usually totally un-effective to get you a job...)...At the 3rd work offer they should decide to refuse , they won't get this  check anymore

 

League has promised to get a flat 15% tax for everybody...

 

The question is: Where are the Billions of Euros to cover all that????

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EU warns against euroscepticism as populists prepare to govern Italy

 

EU leaders expressed concern on Friday about the rise of populism within the bloc, fuelled by the migrant crisis, as Italy came a step closer to forming its first anti-establishment government

 

 

AFP
11 May 2018
17:32 CEST+02:00

 

 

 

https://www.thelocal.it/20180511/eu-italy-populists-league-five-star-movement

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