brute force works. KIM CAVES: North Korea WILLING TO FREEZE Nuclear Program, Talk with Trump

[MyLadiesDaddy]

KIM CAVES: North Korea WILLING TO FREEZE Nuclear Program, Talk with Trump

     

North Korea announced its open to future talks with US.

North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un announced his regime was willing to “freeze” its nuclear program, halt future tests, and meet with the United States Tuesday, shocking the international community as the Hermit Kingdom huddled with South Korean officials.

South Korea’s National Security Director announced Kim’s decision, saying “[North Korea] made it clear that while dialogue is continuing, it will not attempt any strategic provocations, such as nuclear and ballistic missile tests.”

“The North side clearly affirmed its commitment to the denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula and said it would have no reason to possess nuclear weapons should the safety of its regime be guaranteed and military threats against North Korea removed,” the official added.

President Trump hailed the news on social media Tuesday, saying the US was “ready to go hard” in either direction should Kim decide to resume his nuclear tests.

“Possible progress being made in talks with North Korea. For the first time in many years, a serious effort is being made by all parties concerned. The World is watching and waiting! May be false hope, but the U.S. is ready to go hard in either direction!” tweeted the President.

 

[Xtaxguy]

Sure, he's willing to have some of his minions blather for a couple of years while lying low and building his CBR inventories, expecting that our millions of new [illegal alien] voters will elect a new ultra left idiot in 2020, who will visit, apologize, and deliver money, just like Obutthead did with so many other demented dictators.  I just saw a better plan on another page on this site a couple of minutes ago:

 

Edited March 8, 2018 by Xtaxguy

[SgtFuryUSCZ]

 

Can't anyone see that the same regime that is helping them with their nuke program has also

taught them how to lie about allowing inspections, using nuke facilites for "peaceful purposes",

and expecting boatloads of untrace-able cash to do it yet STILL continue their 'nukes-for-evil' programs going....?

 

Can you say "IRAN".....    

 

If Trump falls for this one, he's as ignorant as a Bush, devious as a klinton and as evil as a ho'bummer.  

 

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Edited March 8, 2018 by SgtFuryUSCZ

[SgtFuryUSCZ]

A "confused" reader...?

 

No mystery.  Iran is behind quite a bit of NoKo's nuke program.

 

And apparently they've also advised them on how to skirt any Rules, Regs and Terms implemented

in these bogus ''Agreements" they have to make in order to keep getting goodies from ignorant countries

who believe they'll behave. (France for one)... or in our case, free ho'bummer money.

 

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[Synopsis]

8 hours ago, SgtFuryUSCZ said:

 

Can't anyone see that the same regime that is helping them with their nuke program has also

taught them how to lie about allowing inspections, using nuke facilites for "peaceful purposes",

and expecting boatloads of untrace-able cash to do it yet STILL continue their 'nukes-for-evil' programs going....?

 

Can you say "IRAN".....    

 

If Trump falls for this one, he's as ignorant as a Bush, devious as a klinton and as evil as a ho'bummer.  

 

.

 

7 hours ago, SgtFuryUSCZ said:

A "confused" reader...?

 

No mystery.  Iran is behind quite a bit of NoKo's nuke program.

 

And apparently they've also advised them on how to skirt any Rules, Regs and Terms implemented

in these bogus ''Agreements" they have to make in order to keep getting goodies from ignorant countries

who believe they'll behave. (France for one)... or in our case, free ho'bummer money.

 

.

 

    SgtFuryUSCZ!!!    

 

I couldn't agree with You Both here more. Sixty five Years of lies have only embolden and increased the capabilities of North Korea to wreak havoc in the area and throughout the world through the evil and criminal networks with the likes of Iran and are exponentially increasing their capabilities - even with cyber warfare (crypto currencies included - ouch!). The NoKos are so ingrained to the last man that Kim Jong Un is a hero leader that they will do anything to support him. Of course, Kim Jong Un would have them killed outright or sent to a "reeducation camp" until the "needs education" gets better or, somehow, dies in the process in the most inhumane of conditions and treatment if any dissention is detected.

 

So, an attempted regime change without an all out invasion and all out take over of North Korea is NOT the solution. From past history, the future only looks worse if an all out assault and take over of North Korea is not completed NOW. Nobody with any sanity likes war of any sort whether hand to hand in dire conditions or from a push button console. The implications are never good. I, for one, am reluctant to support immediately overwhelming action with North Korea but I see no other option.

 

Any softening of the SoKos in their stance against the NoKos is off the charts suspicious and concerning. East/West Germany is a significantly different issue due to cultures but there are fundamental elements that remain the same and are indisputable. The key for both is to totally remove the NoKo government and leaders and assimilate with SoKo under the SoKo administration. Obviously, NoKo will need years to decades of help assimilating into SoKo and developing while the environmental, ecological, psychological, sociological, political, ideological, and justice issues will likely be far more reaching. I suspect the horrors of the "reeducation camps" rival that of the Nazi concentration camps. From a human rights perspective, eliminating the NoKo regime and assimilating with SoKo would seem to be a no brainer and a must do.

 

Regarding of the differing views and practices of Douglas MacArthur and Harry S. Truman, SoKo/NoKo should not even exist and should have always been known as Korea singularly with Douglas MacArthur adamant about a unified and singular Korea. We were basically there. Sure there were all kinds of Chinese on the other side of the Yalu river but were on the heels of the Long March. How much of a sustained fight could the Chinese put up with the US air and ground capabilities? Cutting off supplies and exit potential for The United States Of America Service Personnel in the dead of winter having to fight back and escape to the safe zone (if they could severely wounded, frost bitten and all) each all alone is entirely unconscionable and should have had an indictment drawn up with Harry S. Truman as a highly treasonous act.

 

Harry S. Truman's atrocity lives today.

 

Who cares about the Soviet nukes at that time. How capable were they and what delivery capability did they have? They were ravaged after World War II and likely could not have put up much of a sustained fight either especially with their tests in 50 - 53 showing nuclear blast yields of 2 - 400 kiloton. The US was armed and ready, not only in Korea, and could have dropped nukes on the Soviets ANYWHERE in the Soviet Union. Yeah, good luck with that one Soviets. We should have followed Gearge S. Patton's advice and finished off the Soviets right after World War II. The Cold War, and potentially the Korean conflict, would have all been eliminated. What would the Russian Marshall Plan (if the Soviets were defeated) look like today with all the vast resources in Russia???!!!

[coorslite21]

Seems they have come to some sort of agreement for a face to face with the little rocket man and Trump........caution will be taken.......Trump will not be tricked or deceived......

 

I am in agreement with this meeting.....if you can't talk..........you have no chance to resolve issues........JMO

[Synopsis]

Trump accepts invitation to meet with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un

The Washington Post

Anna Fifield2 hrs ago

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Trump to meet North Korea's Kim by May: Sou

 

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President Trump has agreed to meet with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un for talks by the end of May, an extraordinary development following months of heightened nuclear tension during which the two leaders exchanged frequent military threats and insults.

Kim has also committed to stopping nuclear and missile testing, even during joint military drills in South Korea next month, Chung Eui-yong, the South Korean national security adviser, told reporters at the White House on Thursday. Chung extended the invitation from Kim to meet while briefing Trump on the four-hour dinner he had with the North ­Korean leader in Pyongyang on Monday.

After a year in which North Korea fired intercontinental ballistic missiles capable of reaching all of the United States and tested what is widely thought to have been a hydrogen bomb, such a moratorium would be welcomed by the United States and the world.

But there is also significant risk for Trump in agreeing to a meeting apparently without the kind of firm preconditions sought by previous U.S. administrations. There has never been a face-to-face meeting, or even a phone call, between sitting leaders of the two nations because American presidents have been wary of offering the Kim regime the validation of a leaders-level summit on the global stage.

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A senior White House official said the North Korean leader’s message included a “commitment to denuclearization” and emphasized that the United States would demand verification that the North is meeting its obligations in any prospective deal. Trump told aides that, leading up to the talks, he expects them to maintain the severe economic sanctions imposed on the North over the past year by his administration and the United Nations, the official said.

The news stunned Washington’s political leadership and foreign policy analysts who as recently as last month were fretting over the possibility of a military conflagration on the Korean Peninsula. Trump and Kim have spent the past year making belligerent statements about each other, with Trump mocking Kim as “Little Rocket Man” and pledging to ­“totally destroy” North Korea and Kim calling the ­American ­president a “dotard” and a “lunatic” and threatening to send nuclear bombs to Washington, D.C.

But renewed dialogue between North and South Korea leading up to and during the Olympics last month offered an opening. Kim has “expressed his eagerness to meet President Trump as soon as possible,” Chung told reporters during a brief statement outside the White House after emerging from the meeting with Trump.

“President Trump said he would meet Kim Jong Un by May,” Chung said, but he did not provide any information on where the meeting would be. In Seoul, the presidential Blue House clarified that the meeting would occur by the end of May.

© -/AFP/Getty Images South Korea's national security advisor Chung Eui-yong (center) and spy chief Suh Hoon (left) head for the plane that would take them to Washington on Thursday to meet with American officials.

There was no immediate word on where a meeting would be held, although it would be unprecedented if it took place outside the Korean Peninsula.

The White House confirmed that Trump had accepted Kim’s invitation, which came as a message from Chung rather than in a letter from the North Korean leader. “President Trump greatly appreciates the nice words of the South Korean delegation and President Moon [Jae-in]. He will accept the invitation to meet with Kim Jong Un at a place and time to be determined,” White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said in a statement. “We look forward to the denuclearization of North Korea. In the meantime, all sanctions and maximum pressure must remain.”

Trump took to Twitter on Thursday night to laud the announcement. “Great progress being made but sanctions will remain until an agreement is reached. Meeting being planned!” he wrote. 

Former U.S. officials cautioned that the North has made promises before, only to break them. During President George W. Bush’s second term, after talks with the United States and several other nations, the North agreed to freeze parts of its nuclear program in exchange for the lifting of some economic sanctions. Then it violated the agreement by testing more missiles.

Danny Russel, who served as senior Asia director at the National Security Council under President Barack Obama, noted that the Kim regime has sought talks with the U.S. president as a way to gain legitimacy as a nuclear power.

“They have long said that ‘if the president would engage directly, then who knows what’s possible?’ ” Russel said. “The fact that they’re looking for the face and the legitimization and the validation of direct engagement of the president of the United States is not new. And it’s not inconsistent with their strategy of seeking to be treated like the Soviet Union, seeking to be accepted as a nuclear peer.”

Any meeting between Trump and Kim would be historic. Former president Jimmy Carter met Kim’s grandfather Kim Il Sung, and former president Bill Clinton met his father, Kim Jong Il — during visits to Pyongyang after they had left office. Both Carter and Clinton also went to Pyongyang to collect Americans who had been imprisoned by the regime.

Chung led the South Korean delegation earlier this week to North Korea, where Kim and his senior cadre expressed a willingness to hold talks with the United States and were prepared to discuss denuclearization and normalizing relations.

During the meetings, Kim “made it clear” that the North would not resume provocations while engaged in those talks, Chung said Tuesday upon returning to Seoul.

In front of the White House on Thursday night, Chung credited Trump for bringing the North Korean leader to the table, continuing Seoul’s deliberate efforts to flatter the American president.

“I explained to President Trump that his leadership and his maximum-pressure policy, together with international solidarity, brought us to this juncture,” Chung said.

It was an extraordinary scene — a foreign official, unaccompanied by U.S. leaders, briefing the press at the White House about the American president’s plans. Chung was flanked by Suh Hoon, the head of South Korea’s intelligence agency, who was also at the dinner in Pyongyang, and Cho Yoon-jae, the South Korean ambassador to the United States.

A senior administration official said the White House meeting between Trump and the South Korean officials included senior presidential aides, among them Defense Secretary Jim Mattis and Chief of Staff John F. Kelly, a retired Marine Corps general. Trump spoke with Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe after the meeting, the official said.

“President Trump has been very clear from the beginning, he is not prepared to reward North Korea in exchange for talks,” the official, who was not authorized to speak on the record, told reporters in a background briefing organized by the White House. “But he is willing to accept the invitation at this time to meet . . . and he expects North Korea to start putting action to the words they conveyed.”

Asked why the administration did not seek to establish lower-level talks as a prerequisite to a presidential summit, the official said lower-level engagement has taken place for 27 years, and “that history speaks for itself.”

“President Trump has a reputation for making deals,” the official added. “Kim Jong Un is the one person able to make decisions in their uniquely totalitarian system, and so it made sense to accept the invitation with the one person who can make decisions instead of repeating the long slog of the past.”

Some analysts agreed with the Trump administration that Kim is suddenly interested in talks because the sanctions are beginning to hurt and because he is genuinely afraid of U.S. military strikes. Trump and his top aides have said that time is running out to blunt the North’s nuclear program, and the White House has privately explored options that include limited strikes on North Korean targets, according to foreign policy analysts who have spoken with administration officials.

“The worst possible thing you can do is meet with President Trump in person and try to play him,” Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.), who credited Trump with bringing Kim to the negotiating table, warned in a message to the North posted on Twitter. “If you do that, it will be the end of you — and your regime.”

But others say Kim is feeling more confident than ever. In November, he declared that he had “completed” his missile program and is now ready to deal with the United States — on an equal footing, nuclear state to nuclear state.

The invitation was the result of Kim’s “broad minded and resolute decision” to contribute to the peace and security of the Korean Peninsula, said North Korea’s ambassador to the United Nations in New York, who is responsible for handling communications with the United States.

By the “great courageous decision of our Supreme Leader, we can take the new aspect to secure the peace and stability in the Korean Peninsula and the East Asia region,” Pak Song Il wrote in an email to The Washington Post.

The decision to hold the meeting was consistent with North Korea’s principle that the issues should be solved through negotiation, Pak said.

“The United States should know and understand our position and should further contribute to the peace and security-building in the Korean Peninsula with [a] sincere position and serious attitude,” he wrote.

A meeting would be a huge step between the two countries, avowed enemies for 70 years, and particularly between two leaders.

Ahead of the announcement, Secretary of State Rex Tillerson urged caution about any forthcoming talks, despite what he described as “potentially positive signals coming from North Korea.”

“In terms of direct talks with the United States, and you asked negotiations, we’re a long way from negotiations; we just need to be very clear-eyed and realistic about it,” Tillerson said while on a diplomatic visit to Ethiopia. Officials said Tillerson spoke with Trump about the development before the announcement.

Trump has also repeatedly said he would be willing to talk to Kim. While running for president in 2016, Trump said he wouldn’t host Kim for a state visit but would be happy to sit down for hamburgers at a boardroom table with the North Korean leader.

The North Koreans have been confused by Trump’s un­or­tho­dox leadership style, making contact with analysts in Washington with Republican ties. Senior North Korean officials have even read “Fire and Fury,” the explosive book by Michael Wolff about Trump’s White House.

Since he took over the leadership of North Korea from his father at the end of 2011, Kim has not met any other head of state. Discussions are now underway to hold a summit with South Korean President Moon in the demilitarized zone between the two Koreas at the end of next month.

Kim sent his sister, Kim Yo Jong, to South Korea at the opening of the Winter Olympics last month to deliver an invitation to Moon for a summit. Preparations are underway for that meeting, set for the end of April, even as the United States and South Korea prepare to begin drills that anger North Korea every year.

There has been no word on the three American men who have been detained in North Korea, one for 2½ years. North Korea has been treating them as prisoners of war and has denied Swedish diplomats, representing the United States in North Korea, consular access to them since June last year.

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[SgtFuryUSCZ]

It's a set-up.... a ruse....

 

Fat little Rocket Man has NO intention of dealing in good faith.

Believe it.  He's a lying swine. 

 

Does anyone really think that after all his grand-standing & bravado, 

this fat little pig is gonna back down just like that...?

 

Is he really so afraid of Trump's perceived (touted by the MSM) "unpredictability" that he

figures he'd better back off now or risk being reduced to toast...?

 

 

 

 

13 hours ago, Synopsis said:

 

Harry S. Truman's atrocity lives today.

 

 

Absolutely.  Pulling the rug out from under our Troops & The Korean people...

Just like ho'bummer did in Iraq...

Same stunt they pulled in Vietnam... ("police action" my azz..") 

 

And liberal cowardice always creates more hell across the globe, too.

 

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[Synopsis]

34 minutes ago, SgtFuryUSCZ said:

It's a set-up.... a ruse....

 

Fat little Rocket Man has NO intention of dealing in good faith.

Believe it.  He's a lying swine. 

 

Does anyone really think that after all his grand-standing & bravado, 

this fat little pig is gonna back down just like that...?

 

Thank You, SgtFuryUSCZ, I have NEVER trusted anything out of the mouths of the NoKos. I am surprised by the recent posturing of the SoKos so I wonder what is going on there.

 

Maybe President Donald J Trump will invite Kim Jong Un to the USA and take him on a Tour d'ChickenWings with a host of different venues. Maybe the lil' grease ball will O.D. and have a massive coronary plug up and keel over. Game Over. 

 

I would like to think President Donald J Trump is wise to Kim Jong Un and the NoKos so I do not know what is up with him meeting with lil' grease ball. To me, something is up with April/May where the meeting with Kim Jong Un is slated to happen before May and the final decree on the 5 + 1 Nuclear Deal with Iran in May. I don't know if this is an overall scheme with the Iraqi elections in May and possibly other things. It just seems like something is up.

 

[Synopsis]

47 minutes ago, SgtFuryUSCZ said:

And liberal cowardice always creates more hell across the globe, too.

 

    SgtFuryUSCZ!!!    

 

Snowflakes and Buttercups at THEIR Fire And Fury like nothing else in history!!! "Speak Softly AND Throw Your Big Stick To Your Adversaries AND Cut Off Your Own Troops In The Direst Of Circumstances To Leave 'Em To Die AND Give Your Adversaries A GIANT BOAT LOAD Of Money In The End" THEY Say.

 

                               

 

              

[bostonangler]

3 hours ago, SgtFuryUSCZ said:

It's a set-up.... a ruse....

 

Fat little Rocket Man has NO intention of dealing in good faith.

Believe it.  He's a lying swine. 

 

Does anyone really think that after all his grand-standing & bravado, 

this fat little pig is gonna back down just like that...?

 

Thank you!!!! Anyone who thinks this clown is going to make then keep a deal with Trump or anyone else is sniffing glue.... This guy, like any evil dictator, is only out for what they can get. Trump should have told him to piss off. There is a reason no U.S. president has ever met with the leaders of North Korea. To trust anything they promise is a fool's game.

 

 

 

B/A

[coorslite21]

This is just a logical step in the process for Trump..........what do you guys all suggest...........just nuke the **** out him now.........??

 

Trump isn't stupid.........he will use this meeting to his/our benefit in some way.......JMO.....CL

[MyLadiesDaddy]

1 minute ago, coorslite21 said:

This is just a logical step in the process for Trump..........what do you guys all suggest...........just nuke the **** out him now.........??

 

Trump isn't stupid.........he will use this meeting to his/our benefit in some way.......JMO.....CL

Weeeeeeelllllllll to be honest

it had crossed my mind.

But seriously if I were Trump I'd be more concerned with this potential

 

 

[bostonangler]

23 minutes ago, coorslite21 said:

what do you guys all suggest

 

I think he is useful as a boogie man for the world stage. I don't think he wants to go up in flames... The world doesn't really want him gone or he would have been taken out in the past. People like him keep business booming... I'm not sure this will really take place he and Trump change their mind daily... Let's hope it is a positive step... I guess I'm jaded.

 

B/S 

[caz1104]

On ‎3‎/‎8‎/‎2018 at 9:23 AM, SgtFuryUSCZ said:

 

Can't anyone see that the same regime that is helping them with their nuke program has also

taught them how to lie about allowing inspections, using nuke facilites for "peaceful purposes",

and expecting boatloads of untrace-able cash to do it yet STILL continue their 'nukes-for-evil' programs going....?

 

Can you say "IRAN".....    

 

If Trump falls for this one, he's as ignorant as a Bush, devious as a klinton and as evil as a ho'bummer.  

 

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NK has played this game a few times before....all to obtain badly needed monies. I say show disable/disarm 1st then come back to the bargaining table & will talk about monies....not before

[Shabibilicious]

On 3/8/2018 at 9:23 AM, SgtFuryUSCZ said:

 

Can't anyone see that the same regime that is helping them with their nuke program has also

taught them how to lie about allowing inspections, using nuke facilites for "peaceful purposes",

and expecting boatloads of untrace-able cash to do it yet STILL continue their 'nukes-for-evil' programs going....?

 

Can you say "IRAN".....    

 

If Trump falls for this one, he's as ignorant as a Bush, devious as a klinton and as evil as a ho'bummer.  

 

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Oh my...mark this date down people.  I am in complete agreement with you on this, other than that last paragraph, of course.  Let's be honest here....this invitation is so tubby can show the world his legitimacy as a world leader.  This plays right into his game plan.  Not only that, but where is this meeting going to happen?   Fat boy ain't coming out into the light and certainly isn't going to leave his security shelter....You know damn well he's going to insist on hosting Trump and the whole thing will fall apart and he'll blame the USA for dropping the ball.  Should have just ignored him.  As always just my opinion.

 

GO RV, then BV

[coorslite21]

The rocket man attended school in Switzerland...that's where the meeting will most likely be held....

[Shabibilicious]

1 hour ago, coorslite21 said:

The rocket man attended school in Switzerland...that's where the meeting will most likely be held....

 

Seems like I read somewhere that rocket man attended school in Switzerland under an assumed identity.  As paranoid as he's reported to be....I can't imagine him having the courage to get on a plane, or trusting his generals enough to leave the NK in their care.  As always, just my opinion.

 

GO RV, then BV

[caz1104]

"assumed identity" - Alfred P Newman