Parliamentary power: Kurds did not provide a convincing justification for non-commitment to pay oil money

[nannab]

Barzani needs a serious beating and or a giant dope slap ! Before he goes to jail

Englishman

[yota691]

Abadi sets a condition for negotiations with the Kurds [extended]

Release Date: 2017/9/26 21:20 • 123 times read

[Ayna - Baghdad] 
Prime Minister, Haidar Abadi, a condition for negotiations with the Kurdistan region, "revealing" the establishment of parties in the region - not named - to deposit the imports of Kurdish oil in personal accounts abroad.

"The referendum is a unilateral process that does not respect the partners and its repercussions are catastrophic, and we want the Kurds to negotiate because the constitutional procedures of the federal government will harm them," Abadi said at his weekly press conference on Tuesday. 
"We will not negotiate with the region on the results of the referendum because it is illegal and contrary to the Constitution and can cancel the results of the referendum and then return to negotiate," stressing "will not secede from the unity of Iraq and this constitutional duty and the Constitution stressed the unity and sovereignty of Iraq." 
"Iraq is strong with all its sons and will be weak by the weakness of its two sons," noting that "under the tyrant was using Iraq strong to suppress the people and today, on the contrary, strong Iraq to protect the people." 
Abadi pointed out that "some unfortunately plan for a weak Iraq and imagine that it will be stronger and it is wrong," adding that "
He warned the Prime Minister "of the repercussions of the referendum, which will cause damage in Kurdistan and Iraq in general," surprising "throwing the crimes of the former regime from one nationality to another." 
He stressed that "the federal government will not practice the practices of repression as in the former regime and do not follow the sectarian approach and sectarian and racist, but we will impose power according to the Constitution." 
He explained that "the oil resources in Kurdistan must return to the central government and the region receives a high proportion of imports as well as grants and foreign financial loans, which is part of the constitutional right."
Abadi stressed that "the government has begun to implement measures on the region but will not affect the dignity of citizens and their livelihood, especially the Kurds," accusing "the Kurdish media to translate our statements and actions by mistake and delete many things to prevent the arrival of the truth of the Kurdish citizens, but we emphasize that all our actions are not directed against the Kurdish people, To tighten the protection of the Kurdish citizens in Baghdad and any province they are in and will not allow harm to any Iraqi citizen, especially the Kurdish citizen and will remain Iraqis and defend them and their interests. "
He added that "our decisions towards the region is merciful to the Kurdish people to take care of their interests and stay away from any friction we are strong in the unity of our people and not aggression and punishment, and we have no punitive action against the Kurds, but some want to get things to fight hatred statements and we asked the region to hand over oil to the federal government And we will restore resources to the budget and allocate it to the people of the region. " 
He pointed out that "Turkey remains a neighboring country and has become a joint military exercise, which is healthy to protect the border between the two countries and the region as well."
"Our forces have achieved victories in Anbar and Hawija, and we have not changed our priorities in the war. We are continuing to liberate all Iraqi territory. We will soon liberate other areas and liberate a large part of the occupied area in Kirkuk," he said. 
He said that "Da'ash is still occupying parts of the Iraqi territory, including part of Kirkuk, and there are those who want to drag us into an internal crisis to divide Iraq through an unconstitutional, illegitimate and rejected referendum locally and internationally." 
"The government demands that the international community not recognize the legitimacy of the referendum," Abadi said, referring to an official invitation to visit France next month to support Iraq in the fight against terrorism and support the unity of Iraq and to attend a meeting of international security in Brussels next month.

[new york kevin]

13 hours ago, Spider said:

 

If KRG continue ally with Iran from 1970s, so the truth is Iran want Iraq to total broke...

 

Then, National Alliance was gamed by Iran all the way until now..... And still National Alliance pro-iran until now.

 

Interesting....

Ahhh ... yeah! Spider didn't you notice that Iran is a Shiite Islamic country? That Iraq is a Shiite Islamic country that has been able to live peacefully with a large Sunni Islamic minority,  and Christian Sects. Peacefully by M.E. standards.  Do people still think it is a miracle that ISIS only took control over those areas of Iraq that were Sunni and Christian areas? Maybe a little pay back for all the decades of torture Saddam, a Sunni, inflicted on the whole of Iraq ? Then there is the whole proxy wars, with proxy Armies thanks to the competition between Iran in the one corner and Saudi Arabia in the other corner, that has been going on since the death Mohammad . There is also the frustration of the nation of Turkey, upset about the collapse of the Imperialistic Ottoman Empire when was that 1922 after standing since 1299.   Abaddi is trying to please the entire population and keep the country together.

Edited September 26, 2017 by new york kevin

[yota691]

Barzani calls on Abadi to not close the door of dialogue [expanded]

Release Date: 2017/9/26 21:20 • 81 times read

[Ayna-Baghdad] 
The President of the Kurdistan region, Massoud Barzani, said Tuesday, that the Iraqi constitution allowed the referendum, stressing to the international community Arbil readiness to dialogue with Baghdad.

Barzani said in his first speech after the referendum, that the evening, "The people of Kurdistan decided to send a clear message to the government of Baghdad and neighboring countries through the referendum, and continued that" the way before us is still difficult, but our will will never break, "as he put It 
Barzani, 
Said that " political differences should not affect the components of the people" He added that "we must work together to solve the problems through dialogue and not in the language of threat, and call on the Government of Baghdad to stop On the threat of the Kurds because of the referendum, " 
He pointed out that" the federal system is optimal for the state New, and the Kurdistan region entered a new phase after the referendum, "noting that" Kurdistan will remain a permanent home for the Arabs and they are our brothers. "
The Kurdistan region, held on Monday the referendum on independence in the provinces of the region and disputed areas, ignoring the pressure of Baghdad and the threats of Turkey and Iran and international warnings that it could ignite more conflicts in the region.

[yota691]

Kurdish leader says 'yes' vote won independence referendum

Published time: 26 Sep, 2017 18:05 Edited time: 26 Sep, 2017 18:37

 

Kurds celebrate to show their support for the independence referendum in Duhok, Iraq, September 26, 2017. © Ari Jalal / Reuters

 

The “Yes” vote has won in Monday’s controversial independence referendum in the Kurdistan region of northern Iraq, Masoud Barzani, President of the Kurdistan Regional Government said.

 

Around 3.45 million ballots were cast, with 91.83 percent of those who took part in the referendum opting in favor of independence, Tass reports, citing local TV.

 

Barzani urged the central government in Iraq to engage “in serious dialogue” with the Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG) “instead of threatening” it with sanctions.

"We may face hardship but we will overcome," Barzani said in a televised address.
 

 

The KRG president also called on the international community to “respect the will of millions of people" who took part in the plebiscite.

Iraqi Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi has ruled out any independence talks with the Kurds.

“We are not ready to discuss or have a dialogue about the results of the referendum because it is unconstitutional,” al-Abadi said in a televised speech TV Monday night.

Turkey, Iran, and Syria are also strong opponents of the secession of the Iraqi region due to concerns that it may ignite separatist sentiment in their own Kurdish areas.

Turkey's president, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, warned that Iraqi Kurds will “not be able to find food” if they keep pushing for independence.

“[They] will be left in the lurch when we start imposing our sanctions,”Erdogan said. He warned that all military and economic sanctions were on the table.

[new york kevin]

2 hours ago, The Englishman said:

BREAKING: Barzani announces he accept the federal parliament system for the Kurdish state

 

gotta do this to ya Englishman, where is the article and link? Thanks for the headline?

 

[yota691]

Urgent.. America refuses to close the air ports of the Kurdistan Region "do not take sides with the government of Baghdad"

 

38 minutes ago

 

US State Department spokeswoman Heather Noiret on Tuesday criticized the Iraqi government's decision to close the air ports of the Kurdistan Region as a punitive measure against the background of the referendum held yesterday.

"The closure of the air ports by the government in Baghdad is not right," Nuerte told a news conference. "We do not accept any escalation or violence on both sides."

He said that "we do not support the step of the referendum of Kurdistan and do not favor the government of Baghdad, but we support the unity of Iraq."

But added that "the size of participation in the referendum in Kurdistan was very large," noting that the referendum was accepted and popular in Kurdistan.

Norit Erbil and Baghdad called for serious dialogue to resolve differences and outstanding issues between them.

The Iraqi Council of Ministers decided earlier today to subject the land and air ports in the Kurdistan Region to supervise and control the border crossings.

It also decided to ban international flights to and from Kurdistan in case airports are not subject to government authority.

 

Keywords: 

[Synopsis]

1 hour ago, Queensland said:

This article was issued in Rudaw.net http://www.rudaw.net/english/kurdistan/06042017 in June 4th, 2017.

 

What about your article issued regarding Barzani's announcement?

 

Thank You, Queensland, for posting!

 

From the article:

 

According to a readout of the meeting published by Haider al-Abadi’s  office, an agreement has been reached between Abadi and the Kurdish delegation to reactivate the 140 Article and hold a general census across the province once [ISIS] militants have been driven out of some key areas the group still holds, including Hawija, Rashad and Riyaz.

 

Hawija in the Kirkuk region has not yet been cleared of ISIS. Maybe the quagmire is thickening with regard to the Article 140 from 2007 (as noted in the article) implementation. Nouri al-Maliki was PM of Iraq during the time of the 2007 Article 140 agreement and may be a major fly in the ointment now with terms no longer acceptable or ignored by both Kurdistan and Baghdad. The move to hold the Kurdish Referendum on September 25 may have been a ploy from Kurdistan to redress the 2007 Article 140 agreement to be amenable to Kurdistan's terms. The move to delay the retaking of Hawija may have been a ploy from Baghdad to force Kurdistan to the terms of Article 140 amenable to Baghdad.

 

I suspect whatever is really going on will pick up speed with the full retaking from ISIS of the Kirkuk Hawija and surrounding areas. Maybe all of West/Northwest Iraq from ISIS, too. The Kurdistan Referendum results are supposed to be released 72 hours after the polling closed so we may see heightened action between now and nominally 7 pm Thursday, September 28 Baghdad time. Abadi is also moving according to the Iraqi Constitution to address the illegal Kurdistan Referendum to take affect after the results are available on Friday, September 29.

 

So, lots of fun and entertainment in and from Iraq for the next week or so on a variety of different things that may or may not involve the implementation of Article 140 in it's 2007 or modified form.

 

Just my opinion and 

 

Go Moola Nova!

[DinarThug]

Barzani: The referendum is not to determine the border, but to know the opinion of the Kurds on self-determination

https://www.alghadpress.com/news/Iraq-News/120153/AlghadPress

[The Englishman]

1 hour ago, new york kevin said:

 

gotta do this to ya Englishman, where is the article and link? Thanks for the headline?

 

Hi new york kevin, it was a tweet i have been following, been trying to find a article that confirms it.

Dâna Nawzar Jaf‏ @DanaNawzar

Follow

More

BREAKING: Barzani announces he accept the federal parliament system for the Kurdish state

[10 YEARS LATER]

1 hour ago, nannab said:

Barzani needs a serious beating and or a giant dope slap ! Before he goes to jail

Englishman

 

He should have an " azzident " b-4 he gets to jail. 

[10 YEARS LATER]

1 hour ago, yota691 said:

Barzani calls on Abadi to not close the door of dialogue [expanded]

Release Date: 2017/9/26 21:20 • 81 times read

[Ayna-Baghdad] 
The President of the Kurdistan region, Massoud Barzani, said Tuesday, that the Iraqi constitution allowed the referendum, stressing to the international community Arbil readiness to dialogue with Baghdad.

Barzani said in his first speech after the referendum, that the evening, "The people of Kurdistan decided to send a clear message to the government of Baghdad and neighboring countries through the referendum, and continued that" the way before us is still difficult, but our will will never break, "as he put It 
Barzani, 
Said that " political differences should not affect the components of the people" He added that "we must work together to solve the problems through dialogue and not in the language of threat, and call on the Government of Baghdad to stop On the threat of the Kurds because of the referendum, " 
He pointed out that" the federal system is optimal for the state New, and the Kurdistan region entered a new phase after the referendum, "noting that" Kurdistan will remain a permanent home for the Arabs and they are our brothers. "
The Kurdistan region, held on Monday the referendum on independence in the provinces of the region and disputed areas, ignoring the pressure of Baghdad and the threats of Turkey and Iran and international warnings that it could ignite more conflicts in the region.

 

I get it --- Spit in Abadi's face, but don't stop the dialogue cuz we still want to chat ! Priceless huh.

[ChuckFinley]

Thanks NYK and Englishman. This will all settle down in a couple of days, then we will know what we are looking at.    

[DoD]

1 hour ago, yota691 said:

Urgent.. America refuses to close the air ports of the Kurdistan Region "do not take sides with the government of Baghdad"

 

I didn't realize America had any airports in Kurdistan. A little help somebody, how many an where? 

[SnowGlobe7]

well if you find out be sure to tell Okie...my understanding is he is still trying to land

[Synopsis]

1 minute ago, DoD said:

 

I didn't realize America had any airports in Kurdistan. A little help somebody, how many an where? 

 

I suspect the airport referenced here are the international airports that are operating in the Kurdistan Region where American representatives are declaring Baghdad should not close these Kurdistan international ports. I may be wrong here.

 

As a side note, apparently, there are US military bases currently operating in the Kurdistan region and will continue to operate long term as US military bases.

 

A while back, there were articles suggesting an Iraqi Caretaker Government would be installed in Iraq on September 21, 2017. This Caretaker Government would be administered by the US under the auspices of the UN. I am not sure if this issue of the American objection to Baghdad influencing the Kurdistan Region airports is related to the Caretaker Government - if the Caretaker Government is actually operating now. If the Caretaker Government is actually operating, the Kurdistan Referendum may be a diversion of sorts from what is really happening - these happenings we may or may not see.

 

If nothing else, the next few days or weeks aught to be highly entertaining and who know what'll be put out there in the news???!!!

 

Just my opinion and 

 

Go Moola Nova!

[3n1]

i beleive that would be in reference to flights coming into the airport ie US flights still operating .... as much as most dislike the kurds the US has a very good military association with them ( like minded in purpose )  

[new york kevin]

2 hours ago, Synopsis said:

 

A while back, there were articles suggesting an Iraqi Caretaker Government would be installed in Iraq on September 21, 2017.

Well today is Sept 24th, 2017 so thats was a luiggi rumor. The US does not want Iraq, it may like to get paid back for all the money we spent to get it from where it was to where it is now is about all. 

[Synopsis]

27 minutes ago, new york kevin said:

Well today is Sept 24th, 2017 so thats was a luiggi rumor. The US does not want Iraq, it may like to get paid back for all the money we spent to get it from where it was to where it is now is about all. 

 

Here is one Iraqi news article regarding the Caretaker Government under US trusteeship starting September 21, 2017 so not sure how this fits as a "luiggi rumor".

 

 

Just sayin'.

[6ly410]

I don't know about u guys but this is getting really exciting... GO HCL/RV

[Synopsis]

Just now, 6ly410 said:

I don't know about u guys but this is getting really exciting... GO HCL/RV

 

Maybe some semblance of a Rugby tag team type of goings on? 'cept we don't know who is going to tag on to replace a team on the field at any given time while the action is still underway?

 

Yep, 6ly410 - Getting Really, Really Exciting!!!

 

GO HCL/RV And....................................

 

OH, YEAH, BABY....................................

 

Go Moola Nova!

[6ly410]

Yea buddy!!

[fancy]

58 minutes ago, Synopsis said:

 

Here is one Iraqi news article regarding the Caretaker Government under US trusteeship starting September 21, 2017 so not sure how this fits as a "luiggi rumor".

 

 

Just sayin'.

BUMP

Well that's interesting! 

[mylilpony]

The caretaker government they are referring to in these articles is what the first original government was before the constitution was finished and they had their first real elections. It is also sometimes referred to as the transitional government. The wording they use and the translation comes up very weird sometimes, but they are referring to how things were before they had the first election and the house of reps were established and all the provincial laws were established, etc. There cannot be a caretaker government now unless the council of ministers is deemed resigned and that has to be done by a 2/3 rds majority vote after it is requested by the president and the prime minister, or if the house of representatives dissolved itself, which is not going to happen, and then the council  of ministers can only do the daily affairs of the country and the president has to call for elections to be held within 30 days. That is isnt going to happen either because the electoral commission members are only there for a few more weeks and they dont have the new commission voted in yet. Iraq would have to totally dissolve itself just about in order for the u.s. or anyone else to come in and run it. Their first transitional government or caretaker government was under u.s. trusteeship in the beginning after we invaded and i believe that is what they are referring to is the past tense.

Edited September 27, 2017 by mylilpony

[fancy]

Plus plus plus to you! Thank you mylilpony!!!!