Catalan government: '337 injured by Spanish police violence' during referendum - live

[umbertino]

 

Thousands of police officers dispatched to evacuate polling stations in attempt to stop independence referendum with ultimatum issued for 6am Sunday

 

 

Jamie Grierson and agencies

Saturday 30 September 2017 14.22 BST

 

 

 

People unfurl a Catalan flag and hold posters reading: ‘Right to Decide. Madrid for Democracy.’

Photograph: Paco Campos/EPA

 

 

 

 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/sep/30/police-close-more-than-half-of-voting-centres-ahead-of-catalan-referendum

[umbertino]

 

Jeremy Corbyn calls on Spanish government to end ‘shocking’ police violence as Catalans vote in independence referendum

 

Patrick Greenfield

Sunday 1 October 2017 14.36 BST

 

 

 

Spanish riot police in Barcelona on Sunday.

Photograph: Emilio Morenatti/AP

 

 

Key events

 

• 1h ago'What's happening is a mini revolution': eyewitness accounts
• 1h ago337 people injured in referendum disorder
• 1h agoBelgium PM condemns referendum violence
• 4h ago38 people treated by emergency services
• 4h agoBarcelona mayor calls on Spanish PM to resign
• 5h ago'Rubber bullets fired by Spanish police'
• 7h agoOpening summary

 

 

 

 

 

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2017/oct/01/catalan-independence-referendum-spain-catalonia-vote-live

[divemaster5734]

Spain is about to devolve into complete anarchy.

I hope not, but this is EXACTLY what happens when the peoples of any nation state become wholly committed to the precepts of socialism.

Of the twelve separate political parties, the one labeled "conservative" is nothing even close to what we Americans would recognize.

That's like saying socialism is conservative.

It is, when compared to communism, or a dictatorship, but none of those doctrines recognize individual liberty in the way we Americans do. (some of us anyway)

In reality, all you have are a bunch of lefties fighting to be the ones who get to make the "rules of oppression"    that will generate billions in personal enrichment for the party in control whilst subjecting their fellow countrymen to continued tyranny. 

It's sad, I have no doubt there are Spaniards who cherish the thought of an "American" style structure, but they are an extreme minority, swept away like a tiny raft in the tsunami of others blinded by the appeal of free money, while refusing to accept the reality  of what happens to a person's soul  when you  deny essential God given rights.

The same thing that is happening in Spain will one day take place around Europe.

From Italy to Greece, governments turned left by an unchecked academia hell bent on personal destruction that continues to universally promote socialism as a means of self-promotion, are being caught up in power struggles. 

While simultaneously dealing with internal corruption, lost civilian productivity,( why bother to work when everything is free?), decimated national currency , and all those nasty little "unmentionables" you get with socialism, like starvation, lack of health care, rampant alcoholism and drug abuse, increased violent crimes, abuse of authority, and then everything else that happens internally when the population loses incentive to work along with their morality.

Europe is coming apart at the seams,  all they can seem to say is "Hey, follow me to the ruin of civilization".

The American Democratic Party is trying as hard as they can to do just that.

 

Take a look at Spain and understand, that WILL be America 's future, unless we continue to make a stand to drain the swamp and MAGA!  ...DM

 

 

[umbertino]

 

Police brutality has ignited the political crisis. Can Madrid and the pro-independence movement find a way forward?

 

 

Editorial

Sunday 1 October 2017 20.00 BST

 

 

 

Police move in to prevent Catalans voting in Sunday’s illegal independence referendum at a polling station in Sant Julià de Ramis.

Photograph: David Ramos/Getty Images

 

 

 

 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/oct/01/the-guardian-view-on-catalonias-referendum-the-spanish-state-has-lost

[umbertino]

The crisis in Catalonia is being fed by pernicious myths on both sides

 

 

The referendum could cause a crisis in Europe, but Spain is not the oppressive centralised state the independence movement alleges

 

 

Monday 2 October 2017 17.34 BST

 

By  Victor Lapuente Gine'

 

 

 

 

‘The view of Spanish central government as an oppressor fuelled the Catalan separatist movement from the start.’

Photograph: Juan Carlos Cardenas/EPA

 

 

 

 

 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/oct/02/catalonia-crisis-spain-referendum-independence

 

 

 

 

umb's note: King Felipe's silence is deafening

 

[umbertino]

Opinion divided by the Catalan referendum

 

Readers respond after Sunday’s referendum descended into violence

 

 

Letters

Monday 2 October 2017 19.12 BST

 

 

 

A Spanish riot police officer in Barcelona on Sunday. ‘This would have been bad in a riot, but as a government attempt to stop voting it was disgusting,’ writes Sara Neill

Photograph: Manu Fernandez/AP

 

 

 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/oct/02/opinion-divided-by-the-catalan-referendum

[umbertino]

King Felipe: Catalan authorities have 'scorned' all Spaniards with referendum

 

Spanish monarch uses strongly worded television address to chastise Catalan president, Carles Puigdemont, for attempting to break the ‘unity of Spain’

 

 

Sam Jones in Barcelona

Tuesday 3 October 2017 21.31 BST

 

 

 

Anti Catalan independence demonstrators march in Barcelona on Tuesday night.

Photograph: Francisco Seco/AP

 

 

 

 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/oct/03/king-felipe-catalan-authorities-have-scorned-all-spaniards-with-referendum

[umbertino]

Can Catalonia declare independence from Spain?

 

Since Sunday’s referendum, the Catalan president has repeated his determination to do so within days. The reality may not be so simple

 

Sam Jones in Barcelona

Wednesday 4 October 2017 10.35 BST

 

 

Pro-independence demonstrators in Barcelona taking part in the regional general strike after violence marred Sunday’s referendum vote.

Photograph: Chris McGrath/Getty Images

 

 

 

 

 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/oct/04/can-catalonia-declare-independence-from-spain

 

[umbertino]

Catalan independence to be proclaimed on Monday, says CUP

 

Far-left partners to governing coalition want the regional leader to appear in parliament

 

Barcelona 4 OCT 2017 - 16:30 CEST

 

Àngels Piñol

El País

 

 

 

 

 

 

https://elpais.com/elpais/2017/10/04/inenglish/1507126764_759516.html

 

[BJinMontreal]

You're so right Dive ...

 

Sad part is this is what B/A and Shabs are pushing for the U.S.of A. - because of their disdain for a duly elected official and the U.S. Constitution !!!

[umbertino]

Spain suspends Catalan parliament session in attempt to block independence

 

PM Mariano Rajoy calls on Catalan president Carles Puigdemont to drop pursuit of unilateral declaration

 

Sam Jones in Barcelona

Thursday 5 October 2017 14.09 BST

 

 

A demonstration in Barcelona against Catalonia’s independence referendum.

Photograph: Anadolu Agency/Getty Images

 

 

 

 

 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/oct/05/spanish-pm-mariano-rajoy-warns-of-greater-harm-from-catalonia-independence-plans

[umbertino]

The deep roots of Spain’s Catalan crisis

 

October 5, 2017 9:41 AM CDT By Emile Schepers

 

 

 

Spanish National Police try to dislodge pro-referendum supporters sitting down on a street in Barcelona, Oct. 1. | Manu Fernandez / AP

 

 

 

http://www.peoplesworld.org/article/the-deep-roots-of-spains-catalan-crisis/