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Report: US wars cost American taxpayers $ 7500 per person

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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - US wars in Afghanistan, Iraq and Syria have cost US taxpayers about $ 7,500 per person since the September 11 attacks, according to a report by the defense website DefenseOne on Thursday.

"The average taxpayer spending on America's wars in the Middle East was $ 7,500 per person, according to the undisclosed Pentagon budget data sent to Congress earlier this summer," the report said.

"In this fiscal year, the taxpayers paid about $ 289 per person to cover the costs of the US wars in the region, and in the next fiscal year 2018 they will pay $ 281 per person if Congress passed the spending request from the White House unchanged, That figure should increase with Trump's request to send more troops to Afghanistan. "

"The payment peaked in 2010, with Americans paying $ 767 per person and then falling back to $ 204 in 2016 before rising again as the United States stepped up its air campaign in Iraq and Syria," the report said.

"This figure is far from the total cost of wars for one reason: the figures do not include secret amounts spent by the CIA and other intelligence agencies and special operations, but when costs such as medical payments and subsidies are included for the old applicants over the 40 years And the war-related funding of the State Department and other federal administrations, the figure is much larger, with total figures reaching $ 5 trillion. " 

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57 minutes ago, DinarThug said:

"This figure is far from the total cost of wars for one reason: the figures do not include secret amounts spent by the CIA and other intelligence agencies and special operations, but when costs such as medical payments and subsidies are included for the old applicants over the 40 years And the war-related funding of the State Department and other federal administrations, the figure is much larger, with total figures reaching $ 5 trillion. "

 

So true that nobody ever really wins in a war. Something to be said about striving for diplomatic solutions first. 

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5 minutes ago, bostonangler said:

I want my money back... I'm not a satisfied customer...

 

B/A

 

Sure BostonAngler! As long as You leave Your Iraqi Dinar behind (since the US war in Iraq provides for the return on the IQD investment) and you immediately go somewhere else other than Canada.

 

In the 50 years since Lyndon Baines Johnson declared the "Unconditional War On Poverty", the US has spent 22 trillion dollars on anti-poverty programs. The 22 trillion does not include the spending on the anti-poverty programs for the last three years. I want my money back from that counterproductive War that mostly funds people to remain in their self defeating impoverished condition while creating a huge segment that demands their dole, creates Snowflakes, rocket fuels racism, and empowers the Socialist Liberal Left in their attempt to destroy this country. The "Unconditional War On Poverty" has only promoted poverty deeper and more comprehensive. So getting my money back from the "Unconditional War On Poverty" is actually warranted since the "Unconditional War On Poverty" actually weakened this country instead of making it stronger by retaining people in poverty instead of the impoverished really directing themselves to be an integrated productive contributor in society.

 

http://www.heritage.org/poverty-and-inequality/report/the-war-poverty-after-50-years

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8 minutes ago, Synopsis said:

 

Sure BostonAngler! As long as You leave Your Iraqi Dinar behind (since the US war in Iraq provides for the return on the IQD investment) and you immediately go somewhere else other than Canada.

 

In the 50 years since Lyndon Baines Johnson declared the "Unconditional War On Poverty", the US has spent 22 trillion dollars on anti-poverty programs. The 22 trillion does not include the spending on the anti-poverty programs for the last three years. I want my money back from that counterproductive War that mostly funds people to remain in their self defeating impoverished condition while creating a huge segment that demands their dole, creates Snowflakes, rocket fuels racism, and empowers the Socialist Liberal Left in their attempt to destroy this country. The "Unconditional War On Poverty" has only promoted poverty deeper and more comprehensive. So getting my money back from the "Unconditional War On Poverty" is actually warranted since the "Unconditional War On Poverty" actually weakened this country instead of making it stronger by retaining people in poverty instead of the impoverished really directing themselves to be an integrated productive contributor in society.

 

http://www.heritage.org/poverty-and-inequality/report/the-war-poverty-after-50-years

 

Sorry I was joking, but I guess humor isn't appreciated like it used be...

 

B/A

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11 minutes ago, bostonangler said:

 

Sorry I was joking, but I guess humor isn't appreciated like it used be...

 

B/A

COULD NOT HAVE SAID IT BETTER! I ENJOYED IT! MAYBE NEEDED A :lmao: (MAYBE)?

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I guess $7,500 is cheap over 220 years...

 

The U.S. Has Only Been At Peace For 21 Years Total Since Its Birth

In 2011, Danios wrote:

 Below, I have reproduced a year-by-year timeline of America’s wars, which reveals something quite interesting: since the United States was founded in 1776, she has been at war during 214 out of her 235 calendar years of existence.  In other words, there were only 21 calendar years in which the U.S. did not wage any wars.

To put this in perspective:

* Pick any year since 1776 and there is about a 91% chance that America was involved in some war during that calendar year.

* No U.S. president truly qualifies as a peacetime president.  Instead, all U.S. presidents can technically be considered “war presidents.”

* The U.S. has never gone a decade without war.

* The only time the U.S. went five years without war (1935-40) was during the isolationist period of the Great Depression.

*  *  *

Here is a graphic depiction of U.S. wars:

US-war-graph.jpg?zoom=1.5&resize=426%2C3

And here is the year-by-year timeline of America’s major wars:

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Year-by-year Timeline of America’s Major Wars (1776-2011)

1776 – American Revolutionary War, Chickamagua Wars, Second Cherokee War, Pennamite-Yankee War

1777 – American Revolutionary War, Chickamauga Wars, Second Cherokee War, Pennamite-Yankee War

1778 – American Revolutionary War, Chickamauga Wars, Pennamite-Yankee War

1779 – American Revolutionary War, Chickamauga Wars, Pennamite-Yankee War

1780 – American Revolutionary War, Chickamauga Wars, Pennamite-Yankee War

1781 – American Revolutionary War, Chickamauga Wars, Pennamite-Yankee War

1782 – American Revolutionary War, Chickamauga Wars, Pennamite-Yankee War

1783 – American Revolutionary War, Chickamauga Wars, Pennamite-Yankee War

1784 – Chickamauga Wars, Pennamite-Yankee War, Oconee War

1785 – Chickamauga Wars, Northwest Indian War

1786 – Chickamauga Wars, Northwest Indian War

1787 – Chickamauga Wars, Northwest Indian War

1788 – Chickamauga Wars, Northwest Indian War

1789 – Chickamauga Wars, Northwest Indian War

1790 – Chickamauga Wars, Northwest Indian War

1791 – Chickamauga Wars, Northwest Indian War

1792 – Chickamauga Wars, Northwest Indian War

1793 – Chickamauga Wars, Northwest Indian War

1794 – Chickamauga Wars, Northwest Indian War

1795 – Northwest Indian War

1796 – No major war

1797 – No major war

1798 – Quasi-War

1799 – Quasi-War

1800 – Quasi-War

1801 – First Barbary War

1802 – First Barbary War

1803 – First Barbary War

1804 – First Barbary War

1805 – First Barbary War

1806 – Sabine Expedition

1807 – No major war

1808 – No major war

1809 – No major war

1810 – U.S. occupies Spanish-held West Florida

1811 – Tecumseh’s War

1812 – War of 1812, Tecumseh’s War, Seminole Wars, U.S. occupies Spanish-held Amelia Island and other parts of East Florida

1813 – War of 1812, Tecumseh’s War, Peoria War, Creek War, U.S. expands its territory in West Florida

1814 – War of 1812, Creek War, U.S. expands its territory in Florida, Anti-piracy war

1815 – War of 1812, Second Barbary War, Anti-piracy war

1816 – First Seminole War, Anti-piracy war

1817 – First Seminole War, Anti-piracy war

1818 – First Seminole War, Anti-piracy war

1819 – Yellowstone Expedition, Anti-piracy war

1820 – Yellowstone Expedition, Anti-piracy war

1821 – Anti-piracy war (see note above)

1822 – Anti-piracy war (see note above)

1823 – Anti-piracy war, Arikara War

1824 – Anti-piracy war

1825 – Yellowstone Expedition, Anti-piracy war

1826 – No major war

1827 – Winnebago War

1828 – No major war

1829 – No major war

1830 – No major war 

1831 – Sac and Fox Indian War

1832 – Black Hawk War

1833 – Cherokee Indian War

1834 – Cherokee Indian War, Pawnee Indian Territory Campaign

1835 – Cherokee Indian War, Seminole Wars, Second Creek War

1836 – Cherokee Indian War, Seminole Wars, Second Creek War, Missouri-Iowa Border War

1837 – Cherokee Indian War, Seminole Wars, Second Creek War, Osage Indian War, Buckshot War

1838 – Cherokee Indian War, Seminole Wars, Buckshot War, Heatherly Indian War

1839 – Cherokee Indian War, Seminole Wars

1840 – Seminole Wars, U.S. naval forces invade Fiji Islands

1841 – Seminole Wars, U.S. naval forces invade McKean Island, Gilbert Islands, and Samoa

1842 – Seminole Wars

1843 – U.S. forces clash with Chinese, U.S. troops invade African coast

1844 – Texas-Indian Wars

1845 – Texas-Indian Wars

1846 – Mexican-American War, Texas-Indian Wars

1847 – Mexican-American War, Texas-Indian Wars

1848 – Mexican-American War, Texas-Indian Wars, Cayuse War

1849 – Texas-Indian Wars, Cayuse War, Southwest Indian Wars, Navajo Wars, Skirmish between 1st Cavalry and Indians

1850 – Texas-Indian Wars, Cayuse War, Southwest Indian Wars, Navajo Wars, Yuma War, California Indian Wars, Pitt River Expedition

1851 – Texas-Indian Wars, Cayuse War, Southwest Indian Wars, Navajo Wars, Apache Wars, Yuma War, Utah Indian Wars, California Indian Wars

1852 – Texas-Indian Wars, Cayuse War, Southwest Indian Wars, Navajo Wars, Yuma War, Utah Indian Wars, California Indian Wars

1853 – Texas-Indian Wars, Cayuse War, Southwest Indian Wars, Navajo Wars, Yuma War, Utah Indian Wars, Walker War, California Indian Wars

1854 – Texas-Indian Wars, Cayuse War, Southwest Indian Wars, Navajo Wars, Apache Wars, California Indian Wars, Skirmish between 1st Cavalry and Indians

1855 – Seminole Wars, Texas-Indian Wars, Cayuse War, Southwest Indian Wars, Navajo Wars, Apache Wars, California Indian Wars, Yakima War, Winnas Expedition, Klickitat War, Puget Sound War, Rogue River Wars, U.S. forces invade Fiji Islands and Uruguay

1856 – Seminole Wars, Texas-Indian Wars, Southwest Indian Wars, Navajo Wars, California Indian Wars, Puget Sound War, Rogue River Wars, Tintic War

1857 – Seminole Wars, Texas-Indian Wars, Southwest Indian Wars, Navajo Wars, California Indian Wars, Utah War, Conflict in Nicaragua

1858 – Seminole Wars, Texas-Indian Wars, Southwest Indian Wars, Navajo Wars, Mohave War, California Indian Wars, Spokane-Coeur d’Alene-Paloos War, Utah War, U.S. forces invade Fiji Islands and Uruguay

1859 Texas-Indian Wars, Southwest Indian Wars, Navajo Wars, California Indian Wars, Pecos Expedition, Antelope Hills Expedition, Bear River Expedition, John Brown’s raid, U.S. forces launch attack against Paraguay, U.S. forces invade Mexico

1860 – Texas-Indian Wars, Southwest Indian Wars, Navajo Wars, Apache Wars, California Indian Wars, Paiute War, Kiowa-Comanche War

1861 – American Civil War, Texas-Indian Wars, Southwest Indian Wars, Navajo Wars, Apache Wars, California Indian Wars, Cheyenne Campaign

1862 – American Civil War, Texas-Indian Wars, Southwest Indian Wars, Navajo Wars, Apache Wars, California Indian Wars, Cheyenne Campaign, Dakota War of 1862,

1863 – American Civil War, Texas-Indian Wars, Southwest Indian Wars, Navajo Wars, Apache Wars, California Indian Wars, Cheyenne Campaign, Colorado War, Goshute War

1864 – American Civil War, Texas-Indian Wars, Navajo Wars, Apache Wars, California Indian Wars, Cheyenne Campaign, Colorado War, Snake War

1865 – American Civil War, Texas-Indian Wars, Navajo Wars, Apache Wars, California Indian Wars, Colorado War, Snake War, Utah’s Black Hawk War

1866 – Texas-Indian Wars, Navajo Wars, Apache Wars, California Indian Wars, Skirmish between 1st Cavalry and Indians, Snake War, Utah’s Black Hawk War, Red Cloud’s War, Franklin County War, U.S. invades Mexico, Conflict with China

1867 – Texas-Indian Wars, Long Walk of the Navajo, Apache Wars, Skirmish between 1st Cavalry and Indians, Snake War, Utah’s Black Hawk War, Red Cloud’s War, Comanche Wars, Franklin County War, U.S. troops occupy Nicaragua and attack Taiwan

1868 – Texas-Indian Wars, Long Walk of the Navajo, Apache Wars, Skirmish between 1st Cavalry and Indians, Snake War, Utah’s Black Hawk War, Red Cloud’s War, Comanche Wars, Battle of Washita River, Franklin County War

1869 – Texas-Indian Wars, Apache Wars, Skirmish between 1st Cavalry and Indians, Utah’s Black Hawk War, Comanche Wars, Franklin County War

1870 – Texas-Indian Wars, Apache Wars, Skirmish between 1st Cavalry and Indians, Utah’s Black Hawk War, Comanche Wars, Franklin County War

1871 – Texas-Indian Wars, Apache Wars, Skirmish between 1st Cavalry and Indians, Utah’s Black Hawk War, Comanche Wars, Franklin County War, Kingsley Cave Massacre, U.S. forces invade Korea

1872 – Texas-Indian Wars, Apache Wars, Utah’s Black Hawk War, Comanche Wars, Modoc War, Franklin County War

1873 – Texas-Indian Wars, Comanche Wars, Modoc War, Apache Wars, Cypress Hills Massacre, U.S. forces invade Mexico

1874 – Texas-Indian Wars, Comanche Wars, Red River War, Mason County War, U.S. forces invade Mexico

1875 – Conflict in Mexico, Texas-Indian Wars, Comanche Wars, Eastern Nevada, Mason County War, Colfax County War, U.S. forces invade Mexico

1876 – Texas-Indian Wars, Black Hills War, Mason County War, U.S. forces invade Mexico

1877 – Texas-Indian Wars, Skirmish between 1st Cavalry and Indians, Black Hills War, Nez Perce War, Mason County War, Lincoln County War, San Elizario Salt War, U.S. forces invade Mexico

1878 – Paiute Indian conflict, Bannock War, Cheyenne War, Lincoln County War, U.S. forces invade Mexico

1879 – Cheyenne War, Sheepeater Indian War, White River War, U.S. forces invade Mexico

1880 – U.S. forces invade Mexico

1881 – U.S. forces invade Mexico

1882 – U.S. forces invade Mexico

1883 – U.S. forces invade Mexico

1884 – U.S. forces invade Mexico

1885 – Apache Wars, Eastern Nevada Expedition, U.S. forces invade Mexico

1886 – Apache Wars, Pleasant Valley War, U.S. forces invade Mexico

1887 – U.S. forces invade Mexico

1888 – U.S. show of force against Haiti, U.S. forces invade Mexico

1889 – U.S. forces invade Mexico

1890 – Sioux Indian War, Skirmish between 1st Cavalry and Indians, Ghost Dance War, Wounded Knee, U.S. forces invade Mexico

1891 – Sioux Indian War, Ghost Dance War, U.S. forces invade Mexico

1892 – Johnson County War, U.S. forces invade Mexico

1893 – U.S. forces invade Mexico and Hawaii

1894 – U.S. forces invade Mexico

1895 – U.S. forces invade Mexico, Bannock Indian Disturbances

1896 – U.S. forces invade Mexico

1897 – No major war

1898 – Spanish-American War, Battle of Leech Lake, Chippewa Indian Disturbances

1899 – Philippine-American War, Banana Wars

1900 – Philippine-American War, Banana Wars

1901 – Philippine-American War, Banana Wars

1902 – Philippine-American War, Banana Wars

1903 – Philippine-American War, Banana Wars

1904 – Philippine-American War, Banana Wars

1905 – Philippine-American War, Banana Wars

1906 – Philippine-American War, Banana Wars

1907 – Philippine-American War, Banana Wars

1908 – Philippine-American War, Banana Wars

1909 – Philippine-American War, Banana Wars

1910 – Philippine-American War, Banana Wars

1911 – Philippine-American War, Banana Wars

1912 – Philippine-American War, Banana Wars

1913 – Philippine-American War, Banana Wars, New Mexico Navajo War

1914 – Banana Wars, U.S. invades Mexico

1915 – Banana Wars, U.S. invades Mexico, Colorado Paiute War

1916 – Banana Wars, U.S. invades Mexico

1917 – Banana Wars, World War I, U.S. invades Mexico

1918 – Banana Wars, World War I, U.S invades Mexico

1919 – Banana Wars, U.S. invades Mexico

1920 – Banana Wars

1921 – Banana Wars

1922 – Banana Wars

1923 – Banana Wars, Posey War

1924 – Banana Wars

1925 – Banana Wars

1926 – Banana Wars

1927 – Banana Wars

1928 – Banana Wars

1930 – Banana Wars

1931 – Banana Wars

1932 – Banana Wars

1933 – Banana Wars

1934 – Banana Wars

1935 – No major war

1936 – No major war

1937 – No major war

1938 – No major war

1939 – No major war

1940 – No major war

1941 – World War II

1942 – World War II

1943 – Wold War II

1944 – World War II

1945 – World War II

1946 – Cold War (U.S. occupies the Philippines and South Korea)

1947 – Cold War (U.S. occupies South Korea, U.S. forces land in Greece to fight Communists)

1948 – Cold War (U.S. forces aid Chinese Nationalist Party against Communists)

1949 – Cold War (U.S. forces aid Chinese Nationalist Party against Communists)

1950 – Korean War, Jayuga Uprising

1951 – Korean War

1952 – Korean War

1953 – Korean War

1954 – Covert War in Guatemala

1955 – Vietnam War

1956 – Vietnam War

1957 – Vietnam War

1958 – Vietnam War

1959 – Vietnam War, Conflict in Haiti

1960 – Vietam War

1961 – Vietnam War

1962 – Vietnam War, Cold War (Cuban Missile Crisis; U.S. marines fight Communists in Thailand)

1963 – Vietnam War

1964 – Vietnam War

1965 – Vietnam War, U.S. occupation of Dominican Republic

1966 – Vietnam War, U.S. occupation of Dominican Republic

1967 – Vietnam War

1968 – Vietnam War

1969 – Vietnam War

1970 – Vietnam War

1971 – Vietnam War

1972 – Vietnam War

1973 – Vietnam War, U.S. aids Israel in Yom Kippur War

1974 – Vietnam War

1975 – Vietnam War

1976 – No major war

1977 – No major war

1978 – No major war

1979 – Cold War (CIA proxy war in Afghanistan)

1980 – Cold War (CIA proxy war in Afghanistan)

1981 – Cold War (CIA proxy war in Afghanistan and Nicaragua), First Gulf of Sidra Incident

1982 – Cold War (CIA proxy war in Afghanistan and Nicaragua), Conflict in Lebanon

1983 – Cold War (Invasion of Grenada, CIA proxy war in Afghanistan and Nicaragua), Conflict in Lebanon

1984 – Cold War (CIA proxy war in Afghanistan and Nicaragua), Conflict in Persian Gulf

1985 – Cold War (CIA proxy war in Afghanistan and Nicaragua)

1986 – Cold War (CIA proxy war in Afghanistan and Nicaragua)

1987 – Conflict in Persian Gulf

1988 – Conflict in Persian Gulf, U.S. occupation of Panama

1989 – Second Gulf of Sidra Incident, U.S. occupation of Panama, Conflict in Philippines

1990 – First Gulf War, U.S. occupation of Panama

1991 – First Gulf War

1992 – Conflict in Iraq

1993 – Conflict in Iraq

1994 – Conflict in Iraq, U.S. invades Haiti

1995 – Conflict in Iraq, U.S. invades Haiti, NATO bombing of Bosnia and Herzegovina

1996 – Conflict in Iraq

1997 – No major war

1998 – Bombing of Iraq, Missile strikes against Afghanistan and Sudan

1999 – Kosovo War

2000 – No major war

2001 – War on Terror in Afghanistan

2002 – War on Terror in Afghanistan and Yemen

2003 – War on Terror in Afghanistan, and Iraq

2004 – War on Terror in Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, and Yemen

2005 – War on Terror in Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, and Yemen

2006 – War on Terror in Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, and Yemen

2007 – War on Terror in Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, Somalia, and Yemen

2008 – War on Terror in Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, and Yemen

2009 – War on Terror in Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, and Yemen

2010 – War on Terror in Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, and Yemen

2011 – War on Terror in Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, Somalia, and Yemen; Conflict in Libya (Libyan Civil War)

In most of these wars, the U.S. was on the offense. Danios admits that some of the wars were defensive.   However, Danios also leaves out covert CIA operations and other acts which could be considered war.

Let’s update what’s happened since 2011:

2012 – War on Terror in Afghanistan, Iraq, Somalia, Syria and Yemen

2013 – War on Terror in Afghanistan, Iraq, Somalia, Syria and Yemen

2014 – War on Terror in Afghanistan, Iraq, Somalia, Syria and Yemen; Civil War in Ukraine

2015 – War on Terror in Somalia, Somalia, Syria and Yemen; Civil War in Ukraine

So we can add 4 more years of war. That means that for 222 out of 239 years – or 93% of the time – America has been at war. (We can quibble with the exact numbers, but the high percentage of time that America has been at war is clear and unmistakable.)

Indeed, most of the military operations launched since World War II have been launched by the U.S.

And American military spending dwarfs the rest of the world put together.

No wonder polls show that the world believes America is the number 1 threat to peace.

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HOLY SMOKES batman

thats alot of damn fighting

 

wow i would never of known that

 

At least Canada is not on that list

 

after the release of john candys film canadian bacon

 

the good ol USA knew not to mess with us in the north

 

Image result for canadian bacon movie

 

 

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1 hour ago, davis411 said:

HOLY SMOKES batman

thats alot of damn fighting

 

wow i would never of known that

 

At least Canada is not on that list

 

after the release of john candys film canadian bacon

 

the good ol USA knew not to mess with us in the north

 

Image result for canadian bacon movie

 

 

 

Yep! Looks like somebody(ies) do not like the joking response content either or any spoofing for that matter!

 

:o   :o   :o

 

By the way, cashing in on the failed and counterproductive "Unconditional War On Poverty" is over over four (4) times more profitable (22 trillion / 5 trillion) than cashing in on the expenses for the Iraq/Syrian/Afghanistan War.

 

Looks like a four plus (4+) times better return on my money is no laughing (or joking) matter!

 

:o   :o   :o

 

To be clear, the reference I made to "immediately go somewhere else other than Canada" was to acknowledge it is not fair to Canadians to have to deal with American War Protesters. If I understand correctly, only 25% of the American Vietnam War Protesters who moved to Canada actually got jobs in Canada and could stay. Was Canada's employing of these Americans really helpful to Canada? I am really, really disappointed to see Canada having to be impacted by Internal American Ideological Differences. The Canadians had nothing to do with that - why should they have to deal with the outcome of Internal American Ideological Differences since the Canadians had nothing to do with that?

 

Hey, I wouldn't want any foreigners showing up in my country and them telling me that they are my new "customer(s)"!

 

Of course, visiting legitimately and dropping lots of cash for tourism related expenditures I suspect is A OK???!!! Canada is well worth the money spent (OH, YEAH, BABY!!!) since I have personally vacationed there a couple times. Calgary, Banff, Lake Louise, and Kiskimaastakin were much more than worth the money I paid for those visits! I'd like to think Canadians would welcome me back again for any and all of that and more!

 

Go Canada!

 

Go Moola Nova!

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5 hours ago, Synopsis said:

 

Sure BostonAngler! As long as You leave Your Iraqi Dinar behind (since the US war in Iraq provides for the return on the IQD investment) and you immediately go somewhere else other than Canada.

 

In the 50 years since Lyndon Baines Johnson declared the "Unconditional War On Poverty", the US has spent 22 trillion dollars on anti-poverty programs. The 22 trillion does not include the spending on the anti-poverty programs for the last three years. I want my money back from that counterproductive War that mostly funds people to remain in their self defeating impoverished condition while creating a huge segment that demands their dole, creates Snowflakes, rocket fuels racism, and empowers the Socialist Liberal Left in their attempt to destroy this country. The "Unconditional War On Poverty" has only promoted poverty deeper and more comprehensive. So getting my money back from the "Unconditional War On Poverty" is actually warranted since the "Unconditional War On Poverty" actually weakened this country instead of making it stronger by retaining people in poverty instead of the impoverished really directing themselves to be an integrated productive contributor in society.

 

http://www.heritage.org/poverty-and-inequality/report/the-war-poverty-after-50-years

Well said. I can truly relate.

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2 hours ago, davis411 said:

HOLY SMOKES batman

thats alot of damn fighting

 

wow i would never of known that

 

At least Canada is not on that list

 

after the release of john candys film canadian bacon

 

the good ol USA knew not to mess with us in the north

 

Image result for canadian bacon movie

 

 

Too cold up there to squeeze a trigger.

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5 minutes ago, Jmcc said:

Well said. I can truly relate.

 

On the joking side - hopefully You got a chuckle out of all that!

 

Just now, Jmcc said:

Too cold up there to squeeze a trigger.

 

Nah, only adds to the fun if You're prepared and dressed right!

 

Hey, the Cool Canadians even have some really nice snowmobiles and can help retrieve Yer harvested game back to Yer vehicle! THANK YOU Cool Canadians (YEAH)!

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4 minutes ago, Synopsis said:

 

18 minutes ago, Jmcc said:

Well said. I can truly relate.

 

On the joking side - hopefully You got a chuckle out of all that!

 

 

 

4 minutes ago, Synopsis said:

 

On the joking side - hopefully You got a chuckle out of all that!

 

 

Nah, only adds to the fun if You're prepared and dressed right!

 

Hey, the Cool Canadians even have some really nice snowmobiles and can help retrieve Yer harvested game back to Yer vehicle! THANK YOU Cool Canadians (YEAH)!

It is amazing how much money our government has spent trying to fix problems without looking at the root cause. We have herded a lot of people into public housing that seems to escalate those same problems. People have forgotten about the pride in a job well done. Now it is a give me thing. No one seems to strive to do their best anymore. Most won't take responsibility for their own mistakes. As for Canada, I have several customers that winter here and you should hear them complain about the taxes being spent for the refugees. 30 years ago I would not have minded the cold, but today I have acclimated to the warmer life and will meet the Canadians in San Pedro at Crazy Canucks bar. You are invited DAVIS just bring money.:D

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1 hour ago, Jmcc said:

As for Canada, I have several customers that winter here and you should hear them complain about the taxes being spent for the refugees.

 

Precisely my point. I really hate to see the Fine Northern Canadian Friends having to deal (like pay for via taxes) with issues relating to "refugees" of any sort. It just isn't a responsible thing to do for a major developed country (or any country for that matter) to let (or promote) their citizens to go to another country to live off another country's government provisions while bilking the other country's citizens with more taxes.

 

1 hour ago, Jmcc said:

It is amazing how much money our government has spent trying to fix problems without looking at the root cause. We have herded a lot of people into public housing that seems to escalate those same problems. People have forgotten about the pride in a job well done. Now it is a give me thing. No one seems to strive to do their best anymore. Most won't take responsibility for their own mistakes.

 

The key issue to me is no Federal Government is ever responsible for giving money to their citizens or illegal aliens. There are expanding spheres of responsibility and accountability which are:

  • The individual.
  • The nuclear family (one man married to one woman with subsequent biological and potentially adopted and other children with whom the parents have legal guardianship). I realize there are single parent families that are included here.
  • The extended family (dad, mom, grandparents, uncles, aunts, brothers, sisters, cousins, kids, grandkids).
  • Church or House Of Worship.
  • Community.

And then maybe (I say maybe):

  • County.
  • State.

The provisions and accountability should be made at the nearest level of responsibility and accountability to the individual for the most benefit and productivity. The all provides a huge sense of value and worth to the person(s) being helped and those helping the person(s).

 

Any assistance from the County, State, or Federal Government all involves taxes and never gets run right not to mention the person(s) being helped are robbed of their potential and dignity.

 

The one notable exception is for those who have served honorably in the Armed Services. These individuals should have at all times the finest care for the acute and chronic physical and psychological ill effects they experienced during their honorable service.

 

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“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the people discover they can vote themselves largess out of the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that democracy always collapses over a loose fiscal policy--to be followed by a dictatorship.” 
 Alexander Fraser Tytler
 
Well, there You (You in a generic sense) have it - the dolers must immediately be kicked off the dole and find help nearest them so they, too, can enjoy the fruits of their labor for the United States of America to exist and flourish as a Democracy. Well, a Democratic Republic, really.
For reason, the Social Liberal Left must be stopped in their tracks. The Social Programs instituted within the Federal Government to provide individuals (with the noted exception only) with monetary or other benefits is the specific and targeted demise of this nation. I am not exactly sure what form of dictatorship the Social Liberal Left is promoting and trying to install but I am abhorrent of the current cast of Social Liberal Left on public display.
Freedom Loving American Patriots (and other Freedom Loving Peoples) really do need to get each other's sixes here due to the imminent Socialistic Liberal Left's policies and practices.
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3 hours ago, shawnee said:

hey synopsis ,like your analysis , you are welcome anytime !   i`ll get my dog team and meet you at the border !

 

Deal, Shawnee! Hey, I wouldn't mind helping with hunting, trapping, cutting/chopping wood, and the likes! Hey, I need to pull my weight for such fine hospitality!

 

GO CANADA

 

GO CANADIANS

 

And (OH, YEAH, BABY)...............................

 

Go Moola Nova!

:pirateship:

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8 hours ago, Synopsis said:

 

Sure BostonAngler! As long as You leave Your Iraqi Dinar behind (since the US war in Iraq provides for the return on the IQD investment) and you immediately go somewhere else other than Canada.

 

In the 50 years since Lyndon Baines Johnson declared the "Unconditional War On Poverty", the US has spent 22 trillion dollars on anti-poverty programs. The 22 trillion does not include the spending on the anti-poverty programs for the last three years. I want my money back from that counterproductive War that mostly funds people to remain in their self defeating impoverished condition while creating a huge segment that demands their dole, creates Snowflakes, rocket fuels racism, and empowers the Socialist Liberal Left in their attempt to destroy this country. The "Unconditional War On Poverty" has only promoted poverty deeper and more comprehensive. So getting my money back from the "Unconditional War On Poverty" is actually warranted since the "Unconditional War On Poverty" actually weakened this country instead of making it stronger by retaining people in poverty instead of the impoverished really directing themselves to be an integrated productive contributor in society.

 

http://www.heritage.org/poverty-and-inequality/report/the-war-poverty-after-50-years

Amen!!! Just talking with my friend about he epidemic we have in this country of entitlement 

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7 minutes ago, NEPatriotsFan1 said:

Amen!!! Just talking with my friend about he epidemic we have in this country of entitlement 

 

Yep! Snowflake and their Socialist Liberal Left Puppet Master's agenda of unquestionable entitlement!

 

Hey, we don't get what we want (like have Hillar.y Clinton as the current President) and You (You in a generic sense) oppose us or just plain don't like it???!!!

 

FINE!!! We'll just riot (or foment this behavior via the main stream media) in the streets, call our honorable law enforcement agents brutalizers for stopping and arresting us, hurt innocent people, burn things not our own, and destroy property not our own because YOU are going to pay for our prolifically reckless  and otherwise socially destructive deeds!!!

 

Or so the Fake Narrative and Brainwashed people (if one can call them that) practice right before our eyes.

 

:shakehead:   :shakehead:   :shakehead:

 

So Sad.

 

:facepalm2:   :facepalm2:   :facepalm2:

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9 hours ago, bostonangler said:

1899 – Philippine-American War, Banana Wars

1900 – Philippine-American War, Banana Wars

1901 – Philippine-American War, Banana Wars

1902 – Philippine-American War, Banana Wars

1903 – Philippine-American War, Banana Wars

1904 – Philippine-American War, Banana Wars

1905 – Philippine-American War, Banana Wars

1906 – Philippine-American War, Banana Wars

1907 – Philippine-American War, Banana Wars

1908 – Philippine-American War, Banana Wars

1909 – Philippine-American War, Banana Wars

1910 – Philippine-American War, Banana Wars

1911 – Philippine-American War, Banana Wars

1912 – Philippine-American War, Banana Wars

1913 – Philippine-American War, Banana Wars, New Mexico Navajo War

1914 – Banana Wars, U.S. invades Mexico

1915 – Banana Wars, U.S. invades Mexico, Colorado Paiute War

1916 – Banana Wars, U.S. invades Mexico

1917 – Banana Wars, World War I, U.S. invades Mexico

1918 – Banana Wars, World War I, U.S invades Mexico

1919 – Banana Wars, U.S. invades Mexico

1920 – Banana Wars

1921 – Banana Wars

1922 – Banana Wars

1923 – Banana Wars, Posey War

1924 – Banana Wars

1925 – Banana Wars

1926 – Banana Wars

1927 – Banana Wars

1928 – Banana Wars

1930 – Banana Wars

1931 – Banana Wars

1932 – Banana Wars

1933 – Banana Wars

1934 – Banana Wars

 

39 minutes ago, NEPatriotsFan1 said:

Crazy.... it's Bizarro world... 

 

Never Mind That - Who The Hell Knew That We Were Involved In Over 3 1/2 Decades Of Banana Wars ? :blink: 

 

Image result for funny banana gif

 

:D  :D  :D 

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2 hours ago, Synopsis said:

 

Precisely my point. I really hate to see the Fine Northern Canadian Friends having to deal (like pay for via taxes) with issues relating to "refugees" of any sort. It just isn't a responsible thing to do for a major developed country (or any country for that matter) to let (or promote) their citizens to go to another country to live off another country's government provisions while bilking the other country's citizens with more taxes.

 

 

The key issue to me is no Federal Government is ever responsible for giving money to their citizens or illegal aliens. There are expanding spheres of responsibility and accountability which are:

  • The individual.
  • The nuclear family (one man married to one woman with subsequent biological and potentially adopted and other children with whom the parents have legal guardianship). I realize there are single parent families that are included here.
  • The extended family (dad, mom, grandparents, uncles, aunts, brothers, sisters, cousins, kids, grandkids).
  • Church or House Of Worship.
  • Community.

And then maybe (I say maybe):

  • County.
  • State.

The provisions and accountability should be made at the nearest level of responsibility and accountability to the individual for the most benefit and productivity. The all provides a huge sense of value and worth to the person(s) being helped and those helping the person(s).

 

Any assistance from the County, State, or Federal Government all involves taxes and never gets run right not to mention the person(s) being helped are robbed of their potential and dignity.

 

The one notable exception is for those who have served honorably in the Armed Services. These individuals should have at all times the finest care for the acute and chronic physical and psychological ill effects they experienced during their honorable service.

 

Alexander Fraser Tytler quotes (showing 1-4 of 4)

“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the people discover they can vote themselves largess out of the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that democracy always collapses over a loose fiscal policy--to be followed by a dictatorship.” 
 Alexander Fraser Tytler
 
Well, there You (You in a generic sense) have it - the dolers must immediately be kicked off the dole and find help nearest them so they, too, can enjoy the fruits of their labor for the United States of America to exist and flourish as a Democracy. Well, a Democratic Republic, really.
For reason, the Social Liberal Left must be stopped in their tracks. The Social Programs instituted within the Federal Government to provide individuals (with the noted exception only) with monetary or other benefits is the specific and targeted demise of this nation. I am not exactly sure what form of dictatorship the Social Liberal Left is promoting and trying to install but I am abhorrent of the current cast of Social Liberal Left on public display.
Freedom Loving American Patriots (and other Freedom Loving Peoples) really do need to get each other's sixes here due to the imminent Socialistic Liberal Left's policies and practices.

I am afraid that we are already too far gone.

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