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On 8/16/2017 at 9:13 PM, divemaster5734 said:

Unfortunately it goes deeper than just some morons getting the best pay they have ever had in their life to just scream at people and break stuff. Aside from th hourly pay are bonuses paid for certain destruction, leading an event that gets televised, and even per Diem living expense with transportation .

It's a pretty good gig, especially for the hard parting chemical abusers.

The police not only stood down, but actively herded the protesters into a gauntlet surrounded by armed opposing protesters, and THEN stood down as the morons marching in support of racism were attacked by the other mob of racist's who also hate free speech.

The police were ordered t stand down, and that came from the mayor.

There's small chance a mayor would intentionally allow this type of violent confrontation to take place without receiving compensation and assurances it would not be a reflection of their competency.

Point being, there's a LOT of power politicking going on,  there was a lot of planing, organizing, coordinating, and bribing that went into this event.

You can bet that with every organized national multi-location protest, there is at least one target city, with a couple alternates locations that will be staffed by their best paid thugs.

The only thing I can think of is becoming active in one of the many organizations like Oathkeepers who actively assume a peacekeeper role at events.

The only reason this one got out of hand is because there was not enough independent third party disinterested individuals to defuse the manufactured event, or provide enough credible witnesses to force the controllers to call it off.

I talked about this before Trump was elected, and said we would one day look back on the election and laugh because that was the easy part.

Unfortunately, I can only see it continuing to get worse before we see a turning point.

We really are living an end game potential.

 

 

Hey Dive, I'm really trying to elevate my thinking but it's hard... I'm a scrapper like you!  :eyebrows:

 

I desire the answer... How Do We Do It?  We can list the (mostly manufactured) issues, identify the correct premises and false narratives, and assign blame all day long... but how do we get them to put down their rocks and join us on the battlefield of ideas?  

 

 

 

14 hours ago, Jaxinjersey said:

 

 

...and the "Reasons" will simply continue... persist... grow... as they always have, and always will.  They are pure distraction from any attempt for true resolve...  Politicians know this!  But, so do enlightened citizens!   We just need more of the latter... that care to confront it!  Then, instead of "reasons"... there's clarity and resolve in "reasoning"!  That then, is TRUTH.

 

The Declaration and The Constitution are fairly simple documents... as most philosophically reasoned agendas are.  They are philosophical documents first... and legal documents, second.  They HAVE to be... it is a natural default... the same as the guarantee and support of Individual Rights (natural/inalienable) over Collective "rights" (social/legal)...  We can not have "WE" the people... without "Me" the individual.

 

ONLY when the common/average citizen pauses long enough, away from daily distractions and manufactured issues, to reduce and simplify the discussion to its roots... will any kind of awakening take place.  These roots are the simple depths of simple reasoning... the solid foundation of core values of our Constitution.  The hundreds and thousands of "issues", mostly manufactured and made to look "valid"... are the tools for distraction.  Reduce, minimize... even ignore the useless politicking distraction of issues... and focus on the philosophical reasoning of Individual Rights, guaranteed by the Constitution... and people will see the honest discussion start to prevail over the manufactured ones.  INSIST upon the honest premise, foremost.  INSIST upon furthering the honest intellectual discussion based on the KNOWN... AGREED UPON TRUTH... the SIMPLE PREMISE.  ONLY THEN... will the discussions(s) be honest, appropriate, and clear... and ONLY THEN... will "individual issues" find a clearer resolve.

 

Simply put... try to avoid the "noise" of issues politicking... see past it, just a little deeper, to the clarity of an issue's foundation... and we should find that the ALREADY UNDERSTOOD premise of its philosophical reasoning, tends to find its own resolve.  We just have to nudge it, further define it, and nurture it!   Just ALWAYS ask... "WHY"? in direct context to the Constitution!   The answers usually come forth much easier... when we've eliminated political, or false and manufactured narratives.

 

The resolve is not Left... or Right... it is just the TRUTH.... or dare I say, "Objectivism"...

 

Jax

 

Thank you Jax.  We agree that there are only two ways humans interact... by Reason or by Force.  The foundation of this issue is hate.  The premise being pushed is clearly overreaching... that ALL whites, conservatives and Trump supporters "hate" people of color (which is ridiculous).  But it doesn't matter because it feeds the narrative that this was a spontaneous uprising (not just more manufactured outrage) therefore, we are hateful racist haters and antifa/blm is love and tolerance.  They don't see us as individuals... it's easier to despise us as a group.  They reject their own intellectual honesty that there is hate on both sides.  They ignore the evidence that points back at them.  

 

OK, Reduce and minimize... here goes;)   As individuals, we all have the right to love or hate anything we want.  We do not have the right to impose our views on others.  Group Think vs Individual Preference.  Hate speech from either side is protected for a reason... until it turns violent.  WHY?  Because there's no such thing as a Thought Criminal in our Constitutional Republic.  When ideas are abandoned and replaced with violence, we move further from liberty and closer toward tyranny.  THAT is the goal of those who want to enslave us.  

 

As an individual, (concerned for my safety in a world that paints me with a broad brush)... I can tune out, avoid no-go zones, lock and load, stand my ground in silence to dodge the interaction of Force.  I can also try to reach out with Reason (and humor;)... debunk the lies and defend the truth.  That's my continued effort... even if the Forceful (including the intellectually dishonest among us) don't/won't hear me, I can still validate those who get it.  

 

As Jim says, 'we all need to realize we're being toyed with'... ginning up hate has but one purpose - to divide us.  yes, Yes, a thousand times YES!  WE know this.  

 

How do we get the numbskulls to listen? 

 
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25 minutes ago, Whatshername said:

 

Hey Dive, I'm really trying to elevate my thinking but it's hard... I'm a scrapper like you!  :eyebrows:

 

I desire the answer... How Do We Do It?  We can list the (mostly manufactured) issues, identify the correct premises and false narratives, and assign blame all day long... but how do we get them to put down their rocks and join us on the battlefield of ideas?  

 

 

 

 

Thank you Jax.  We agree that there are only two ways humans interact... by Reason or by Force.  The foundation of this issue is hate.  The premise being pushed is clearly overreaching... that ALL whites, conservatives and Trump supporters "hate" people of color (which is ridiculous).  But it doesn't matter because it feeds the narrative that this was a spontaneous uprising (not just more manufactured outrage) therefore, we are hateful racist haters and antifa/blm is love and tolerance.  They don't see us as individuals... it's easier to despise us as a group.  They reject their own intellectual honesty that there is hate on both sides.  They ignore the evidence that points back at them.  

 

OK, Reduce and minimize... here goes;)   As individuals, we all have the right to love or hate anything we want.  We do not have the right to impose our views on others.  Group Think vs Individual Preference.  Hate speech from either side is protected for a reason... until it turns violent.  WHY?  Because there's no such thing as a Thought Criminal in our Constitutional Republic.  When ideas are abandoned and replaced with violence, we move further from liberty and closer toward tyranny.  THAT is the goal of those who want to enslave us.  

 

As an individual, (concerned for my safety in a world that paints me with a broad brush)... I can tune out, avoid no-go zones, lock and load, stand my ground in silence to dodge the interaction of Force.  I can also try to reach out with Reason (and humor;)... debunk the lies and defend the truth.  That's my continued effort... even if the Forceful (including the intellectually dishonest among us) don't/won't hear me, I can still validate those who get it.  

 

As Jim says, 'we all need to realize we're being toyed with'... ginning up hate has but one purpose - to divide us.  yes, Yes, a thousand times YES!  WE know this.  

 

How do we get the numbskulls to listen? 

 

Education... enlightenment... plain and simple!  Hopefully through normal traditional channels, involving ACCOUNTABILITY and PRIDE and HONESTY.  And if that's not enough... I'm a big believer in simple SHAME!  If those people are not bright enough to learn, through intellectual means of contrast and comparison, WITH properly identified  and accepted premises... they must be SHOWN HOW!  This can only be done on a one to one basis, initially... until such reason and cause takes root into mainstream channels... the educational system, civic organizations, the media, etc.  BUT, the main problem is not really the education... it's the AWARENESS of the NEED!  The APATHY is the true enemy... and unless and until such is alarmingly identified as a TRUE ACADEMIC IMPERATIVE, not the phony pseudo kumbaya concerns already pushed and "accepted", the challenge of the genuine resolve just gets pushed down the road!

 

Honestly... I cannot understand how this is NOT CLEARLY understood by those Conservatives or Constitutionalists with Influence... other than to say, that they are perpetually immersed in fear of losing "power" and "influence.  They are not BRAVE ENOUGH!

 

We simply need more COURAGEOUS Philosophical LEADERS... from Parents to Teachers to Civic Leaders to "Politicians"...

 

And, THANK YOU WHN for the insightful response!!!  :tiphat::twothumbs:

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29 minutes ago, bostonangler said:

 

You left out an important attribute..... HONESTY..... This is one that seems to be lost in today's society.

 

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C'mon B/A... another shallow drive-by?!!!  Stated HONESTY in the beginning of my post... AND honesty is an inherent part of COURAGE, to those that understand it.  So, is that all you have to say?  Please stop cherry-picking my posts out of context!  

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Just now, Jaxinjersey said:

C'mon B/A... another shallow drive-by?!!!  Stated HONESTY in the beginning of my post... AND honesty is an inherent part of COURAGE, to those that understand it.  So, is that all you have to say?  Please stop cherry-picking my posts out of context!  

 

Sorry dude, I missed it at the beginning... My bad.

Overall I totally agreed with your post... Our country is run by a bunch of manby pamby people who are afraid. Afraid of truth, justice and what made America great. Our citizens have been dumbed down and now believe the crap that is spoon fed to them. Most people now think we are at war with each other. That the end is near. Violence will fix it... All of which is pure distraction.

 

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5 minutes ago, bostonangler said:

 

Sorry dude, I missed it at the beginning... My bad.

Overall I totally agreed with your post... Our country is run by a bunch of manby pamby people who are afraid. Afraid of truth, justice and what made America great. Our citizens have been dumbed down and now believe the crap that is spoon fed to them. Most people now think we are at war with each other. That the end is near. Violence will fix it... All of which is pure distraction.

 

B/A

Thanks for the clarification, dudette.  So... let's get started... reveal and nurture TRUE premises through genuine courage, one person at a time.  I'm doing my part, everyday.  Multiply that by millions... we'll have it covered!

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2 hours ago, Whatshername said:

Hey Dive, I'm really trying to elevate my thinking but it's hard... I'm a scrapper like you!  :eyebrows:

 

I desire the answer... How Do We Do It?  We can list the (mostly manufactured) issues, identify the correct premises and false narratives, and assign blame all day long... but how do we get them to put down their rocks and join us on the battlefield of ideas?  

 

 

I would only repeat Jax.

It doesn't help us right here and now, unfortunately the left has become so accustomed to their hypocritical double standards and justification for committing violence against innocent humans that we may well be beyond any logical or reasonable resolution.

When a site/ group / philosophy begins to openly endorse murder and promotes acts of random violence against peaceful humans, the proponents have devolved themselves to something well below civilized. 

The left has lost any moral compass it may have once had, and anyone still offering support for the lawless criminal actions is themselves as guilty as the mindless drones out committing those crimes.

The only way the left can justify their actions against all people conservative is by deciding all conservatives are not actually human beings.

Words are no longer when actions contradict the rhetoric.

By applauding the thuggery of the antifa the entire left has declared they have no self-respect, and if they are now so intent on just getting their way they have committed to any means necessary.

They obviously no longer honor the sanctity of individual freedom in any form and now demand even private thought be monitored, and persons physically  attacked for just independent thought, I honestly do not see any possible way to negotiate.

We are being presented with two options, join "their" side and abandon our conservative values along with Christian beliefs, or risk getting mobbed and potentially beaten to death.

They are closing the door to discussion by their own actions.

If I were a liberal, I would be so incensed by black lives matter, antifa, and the hysterical anti-white theme, I would have quit the party long ago.

Until the democrats have no more followers they will continue their mob actions.

 

A few years ago I would have said the key is getting rid of Soros, but all he is doing is funding the left, there are still plenty of mindless drones willing to commit atrocities for pay, as long as that ethic is tolerated by the party, there is no negotiating.

Even here on DV we have people offering support.

They might occasionally mumble some horseshit about individualism, but their continued support of that party shows their truth.

 

I've said several times it will take at least another generation to see the America we were supposed to have, but now I may have to amend it to several generations.

 

What is most alarming is so many of them don't even see their own hypocrisy.

 

 

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11 minutes ago, divemaster5734 said:

 

I would only repeat Jax.

It doesn't help us right here and now, unfortunately the left has become so accustomed to their hypocritical double standards and justification for committing violence against innocent humans that we may well be beyond any logical or reasonable resolution.

When a site/ group / philosophy begins to openly endorse murder and promotes acts of random violence against peaceful humans, the proponents have devolved themselves to something well below civilized. 

The left has lost any moral compass it may have once had, and anyone still offering support for the lawless criminal actions is themselves as guilty as the mindless drones out committing those crimes.

The only way the left can justify their actions against all people conservative is by deciding all conservatives are not actually human beings.

Words are no longer when actions contradict the rhetoric.

By applauding the thuggery of the antifa the entire left has declared they have no self-respect, and if they are now so intent on just getting their way they have committed to any means necessary.

They obviously no longer honor the sanctity of individual freedom in any form and now demand even private thought be monitored, and persons physically  attacked for just independent thought, I honestly do not see any possible way to negotiate.

We are being presented with two options, join "their" side and abandon our conservative values along with Christian beliefs, or risk getting mobbed and potentially beaten to death.

They are closing the door to discussion by their own actions.

If I were a liberal, I would be so incensed by black lives matter, antifa, and the hysterical anti-white theme, I would have quit the party long ago.

Until the democrats have no more followers they will continue their mob actions.

 

A few years ago I would have said the key is getting rid of Soros, but all he is doing is funding the left, there are still plenty of mindless drones willing to commit atrocities for pay, as long as that ethic is tolerated by the party, there is no negotiating.

Even here on DV we have people offering support.

They might occasionally mumble some horseshit about individualism, but their continued support of that party shows their truth.

 

I've said several times it will take at least another generation to see the America we were supposed to have, but now I may have to amend it to several generations.

 

What is most alarming is so many of them don't even see their own hypocrisy.

 

 

BINGO, DM!!!  And THAT is exactly what I've been trying to emphasize (as lifestyle philosophy), over the political issues rhetoric!!!!   

 

For simplicity... I've always said, there are TWO types of Liberals.  One, that is a militantly nefarious "leader", and knows exactly what they're doing!  And second... the weak minded kumbaya "follower"... that doesn't even know the difference, or KNOW the true DISTINCTIONS between Individualism and Collectivism!

 

It is that latter group that we need to reach... as we'll never change the militant leadership.  The followers will simply need to wake up and dismiss their allegiance to the illness of Liberalism...

 

I've always felt there is promise in the philosophical approach, over the panic and yelling and finger pointing...  SHAME THEM!

 

Just remember... there have been VERY FEW Conservatives that have ever devolved and crossed over to the ills of Liberalism!   But MANY MANY MANY Liberals that have EVOLVED to become Conservative.

 

Just make them SEE and OWN their hypocrisy...  Intellectual Honesty!!!

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I think Rush has been reading DV!  Or, we're just on the same wavelength!  His opening monologue was great (first 10 minutes in video and entire transcript).  He speaks about the individual 'being the supreme power' at 7:30... gave me chills!!!

America Is Under Attack from Within

Aug 18, 2017

 

 

More in the transcript below...

 

RUSH: America is under attack from within. Our culture, our history, our founding are under the most direct assault I have seen in my life. And I’m sure it’s the same with you. We haven’t seen anything like this. You might even get away with saying that we are on the cusp of a second civil war. Some of you might say that we are already into it, that it has already begun. However you characterize it, though, we are under attack from within. And it’s being bought and paid for by people from outside America, in addition to inside.

 

I’m thinking of people like George Soros and any other number of international financiers whose objective it is to take the United States out and down as a superpower, to literally erase the United States as a powerful or super powerful nation.

 

Now, folks, in order to defend America, which I believe is incumbent upon all of us, in order to defend America, you have to begin knowing our history. If you’re gonna defend the United States of America, you have to know our history. You have to know the purpose of the United States of America. You have to know unequivocally and proudly the United States’ place in history. And that is why erasing and distorting our history is crucial for the left to succeed.

None of this that is happening on the left is random. None of the riots, none of the protests. They are not the result of the left being offended by individual acts. Antifa didn’t show up in Charlottesville because they found out something was going to happen that offended them. They showed up in Charlottesville to create mayhem and cause hell. They showed up in Ferguson, Missouri, to do the same thing.

RushFlagUnderSeige-Z.jpgThey showed up in Baltimore to do the same thing — and wherever they show up today and tomorrow and next week, it’s by design, on purpose, has an objective and an agenda. And that agenda is to erase American history. That agenda is to distort, erase, and impugn our history. It is crucial if they are to succeed. Because, you see, if enough Americans can be persuaded that America, as founded, is unjust — if enough Americans can be persuaded that America, as founded, is inherently racist and immoral and illegitimate — then it will be all that much easier to erase America as founded.

The two go hand in hand, which is the objective of all of these groups on the left. Whatever they’re called and wherever they go and however they organize and whatever their day-to-day purpose, their objective is to erase the history of America. It’s to restate it, to recharacterize it in such a way as to convince a majority of Americans that their country is illegitimate and has been from the get-go — is unjust and racist and bigoted and has been from the get-go.

If enough Americans can be persuaded of all of that — that America is inherently racist, that America is and has been a lie — then it’s over. That is the objective, and we are in the midst of it. Sometimes you’re so close to the forest you don’t see the trees. That’s what we are in the midst of here: An ongoing effort to erase America by discrediting the entire premise of our culture, our history, our founding. The objective is to create in as many American minds as possible that America as founded is not worth defending. Serious times.

America-Is-Under-Attack-From-Within-1.jpThis is a very, very serious effort that is underway. Sadly, it has a lot of allies. It has a lot of people helping it that ought to be opposing it, but they are choosing what they think is the path of least resistance, which is defined by the media. You’ve got several Republicans who I believe are unwittingly participating in the effort to cast America as indefensible, particularly with Donald Trump as president. Trump as president is, in their view…

The attacks on Trump, the characterization of his presidency, is designed to show how really flawed America is. That somebody like this could be elected, that means it’s time to get rid of the Constitution. That means it’s time to get… Whatever made Trump possible, it’s time to change it and get rid of it. This is very, very serious stuff happening here, and it has the aid and support of the media, which means it has the aid and support of the worldwide left and the Democrat Party.

America’s profound morality, kindness, widespread prosperity, and design for equal opportunity should be self-evident. But that assumes that factual, historically accurate reporting in education is taking place, and we know that it isn’t. It is a shame and a near crime that the profound morality and greatness and kindness and widespread prosperity and equal opportunity that is America isn’t known. It is a crime that those characteristics of our country are in the process being recast and erased. We are getting hysterically inaccurate reporting.

We have been in the midst of hysterically inaccurate education for generations. America is unique. America copied no other country. Every other country was a copycat of others, with governments that denied individual freedom, denied opportunity, denied sovereignty. That’s what was copied. Tyranny was copied, nation to nation, people to people. That is the history of humanity: Living in tyranny, living under authoritarianism, living in poverty, living in sickness — until the United States came along, which copied nothing.

The United States and its founders rejected all of that tyranny, oppression, poverty. In America, the individual was the supreme power. That is being erased under the premise that the individual is corrupt. The individual is likely a racist or a transphobe or a homophobe or some other ill-prepared sack of humanity, and so we need to overcome the corruption that is the individual, that incomparable embrace of humanity that is the United States of America.

There’s no place on this planet that human beings would rather be than the United States of America. And yet people born and raised in this country have been persuaded that America is a sinkhole, a hellhole, a sewer, a garbage dump, or a dungeon, and they’re in the process of actually creating all of that — under the guise that civil rights, equality, and liberty. The incomparable embrace of humanity that is the United States is under attack. Leftists, Democrats seek control over 100% of the population. They accomplish this with lies, such as the Affordable Health Care Act.

They accomplish it with one lie after another. The lies being told today are the lies designed to convince people their country is not worth maintaining as it is, their country is not worth maintaining as founded because it was founded as racist, sexist, bigoted, homophobic (you know the drill), immoral and illegitimate. Ignorant people will not remain free for very long. The media is working on a path parallel with school systems to actively and passively distort information to wipe out from the vestiges of our history and our memory any collection of stories that testify to the greatness of America and her people.

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RUSH: As I say, folks, ignorant people will not remain free for very long. The media is working on a path parallel with school systems, and now major corporations are joining in this effort. Free, informed speech is punished, diversity of thought is punished and discouraged — and it’s all coming to a head now, folks. This mop is made to appear much bigger than it really is. This mob tried to elect Hillarious Clinton and failed. The media is directing all of this call it a soap opera or a movement or a strategy. And let me tell you, the media and these mobs? They’re not just into removing statues, folks.

They’re not in this just to remove Republicans, and they’re not in this just to remove Donald Trump. The campaign here is to convince you that your country isn’t worth defending. The campaign here is to convince you your country is deeply flawed from the outset and needs to be completely remade, reconstituted, outside the framework of a constitutional republic. “That has failed! We must discard that and reconstitute ourselves as an authoritarian, benevolent” that’s what they think it would be “tyranny.” The campaign is to concentrate power and to end the era of the individual and individual liberty.

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RUSH: This is a very important theme I’m leading off the program with today, folks. I don’t often do monologues or sermon-like things, but this was… We’re in the midst of something extremely crucial. This really does involve the future of the country as founded. I’ve known for years it’s under siege, under attack. I know the left. I know their motivations. I know their objectives. I know who funds them. I know how they’ve educated people.

But it’s now plain as day for anybody in the world to see, that they are attempting to seriously convince as many Americans as possible there’s nothing defensible about this country. It needs to be torn down and rebuilt. It’s not savable. This country is too flawed, it is too flawed, it’s too far gone. There’s not enough goodness and decency to grab hold of and reform. This is why education has dumbed people down. This is why so few people know genuine American history. So few people actually understand what I mentioned at the beginning of this.

Liberalism2PIX.jpgYou have to know American history. You have to know the purpose. You have to know America’s place in history. You have to know why 56 men risked their lives and their fortunes and their sacred honor to declare independence from the tyranny of the day. You have to know why they did that. You have to know what they faced. You have to have a deep appreciation for your individual personal liberty. You have to have a deep appreciation for the history of the world — which is that until the United States came along, that didn’t exist as a charter of government.

There were people that had individual liberty and freedom. They ran tyrannical countries, they ran authoritarian countries, they ran dungeons, or they were wealthy elite. But the vast majority of human beings who have lived on this planet have never come close to knowing what life is like in the United States of America. But around the world today and since our founding, everybody alive does know and tries to get here — temporarily, permanently, what have you.

And yet all of it is under assault and being rewritten with the theme being that this country is not worth it, that it is deeply flawed. America is not worth defending. It’s inherently racist and unjust. And here’s the real irony. This bunch of people down in Charlottesville, this ragtag bunch of Nazis and Klan members and white supremacists? There’s not enough of those people to affect any kind of change whatsoever. Not systemic change. Not enough of those people to elect enough people to matter. There aren’t enough of those people to matter, period.

They are not the problem. They don’t have power in America today. They don’t have any, compared to the people opposing them. How many people show up at a Klan rally these days if they have one? The media doesn’t show you because it’s so tiny. The media wants you to think the Klan elected Donald Trump. The media wants you to think the Klan, the Nazis, and the white supremacists elected Donald Trump and that Steve Bannon put ’em all together and grew them. There aren’t enough of those people to elect a member of Congress, much less a president.

They are not the problem. The problem is on the other side. The problem comes from people who do have power — and what power they have! They have the power to shut down free speech on campus. They have the power to totally corrupt the movie, the book, the music and TV industries. They have real power! The anarchists, the anti-Americans, the Antifa, the Occupy Wall Street, the Black Lives Matter, the United States mainstream media, the Democrat Party, they have power. They are leading the effort that is attempting to teach that America is unjust and immoral and illegal.

These little hapless people marching around wearing white hoods couldn’t stop diddly-squat. They don’t have any power. They’ve been shamed into practically nonexistence. Yet they are hoisted up. They are portrayed as the people running this country — or the people who used to run this country and they ran it for all these years, and now they are losing it, justifiably, and they are panicked and causing trouble. They don’t have any power compared to the people that I’m talking about. You think the Klan can compare to the mainstream media?

Leftists-Are-Tearing-America-Apart-whileYou think the Nazis, however many of them there are — or few — can compare to the media and academia and Hollywood? It’s a joke! The same thing with the Nazis and the same thing with the white supremacists. But when you talk Black Lives Matter, when you talk Occupy Wall Street or any of these other left-wing groups that end up rioting and protesting, they are the military wing of the people with power in this country. These people run the Washington establishment. You don’t find in you Klansmen there, and you don’t find any Nazis there, because there aren’t enough of those people to matter a hill of beans.

But yet look how they are portrayed. None of these people run institutions of higher learning. None of these people are in charge of massive amounts of money donated by other wealthy people and then redistributed to advance the leftist cause. They don’t have anything like that. They’re not the people to worry about. And yet, turn on the news, and the only people to worry about — and the reason why America must be reconstituted, the reason why America is unjust and illegitimate — is because of a bunch of people who wouldn’t fill a phone booth in a proportional illustration of the population of this country.

In the process, the American people are being misdirected and told to fear the wrong people. At the same time, they’re being told to believe and appreciate “the right people,” and the right people are the people who really wield the power and who really have, as their objectives, to undermine and overthrow the Constitution of this country and create something different that will end up nullifying the whole concept of individual liberty and freedom. You already see this on the internet. The internet is unregulated, and that’s good.

But look what has happened here. Do you think the Klan can hold a candle to PayPal? Can the Nazis hold a candle to Facebook? Can white supremacists in any way compete in terms of power with Twitter? There’s no way. So those websites have all decided amongst themselves — the CEOs of those websites have unilaterally decided — they are not gonna allow any speech they don’t like. Now, they do this under the guise of banning hate speech from the Nazis and related websites, white supremacist websites and so forth. And it’s applauded.

But these guys are admitting the only reason they’re doing it is ’cause they don’t like these guys and they don’t want to have to see them their sites. What if they wake up tomorrow and don’t like you? They are in effect saying that due to their own sensibilities of what’s right and wrong and just and unjust, they are gonna decide who has the ability to think and say whatever is thought and said on their platforms. Do you agree with that or not? Do you think that’s okay?

Do you say, “Well, Rush, I gotta side with ’em. I don’t think the storm troopers ought to have a website, and I don’t think the supremacists ought to…” Okay, fine. Remember, they don’t have any power to do diddly-squat. All they can do is offend you and make you mad. They don’t have any power to do anything. But do you think that three people — Zuckerberg and whoever the other two are that run PayPal and Facebook, Twitter, whatever. Do you think they ought to be able to wake up one day and just decide? But they’re doing it — under the guise, by the way, of cleansing and pursuing and sanctifying.

FlagCultural-Rot.jpgThat’s not what they’re doing.

They are limiting speech.

I saw some idiot Democrat on TV the other day. Oh! No! It was one of the cofounders of Black Lives Matter. A woman. Do you know what she said? “The Constitution prohibits hate speech.” I heard that, and I thought, “You know, there are going to be a lot of people that agree with it, ’cause they don’t know, because they’ve been taught that ‘hate speech’ is bad.” Who defines, by the way, “hate speech”? Like, I think I’m the victim of hate speech every day. There’s some hate speech on me in — what is it? The Washington Post today. I think it’s the Washington Post.

Yep, there’s hate speech on me today in the Washington Post. People speak of me with hate every day in mainstream news organizations. But here’s the founder of Black Lives Matter: “The Constitution prohibits hate speech.” No. In fact, what the Constitution does is allows it. The First Amendment specifically permits it! That’s the point of the First Amendment, the free speech clause. There isn’t any limit that a government can put on it — other than calling “fire” in a crowded theater, of course, that kind of thing.

But political speech, specifically referenced in the founding documents, there isn’t any limit on it. Hate speech, the speech you hate and disagree with, that is the speech protected. And the age-old theory has been the way you drown it out is with mountains and mountains and mountains of more free speech that condemns, that ridicules, that relegates.

But that’s not how the left goes about it. The left gets offended and says, “You don’t have the right to offend me. I’m shutting you up or down.” And people applaud it. Those are the people have the power in America today, folks. The people that run universities that you’re spending $25,000 a semester to send your kid to. The Drive-By Media. Your local school board, the Hollywood entertainment industry, that’s real power. That’s where the power is. And it’s all aligned and arrayed on one side.

Donald Trump is coming up against it. Who do you think’s winning that battle? Who’s winning that battle of power? And then you want to tell me they want to tell me that we need to really fear this bunch of lunatics in the Klan and this bunch of hapless half-wits in the white supremacy movement? Seriously?

 

https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2017/08/18/america-is-under-attack-from-within/

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12 minutes ago, Whatshername said:

 

I think Rush has been reading DV!  Or, we're just on the same wavelength!  His opening monologue was great (first 10 minutes in video and entire transcript).  He speaks about the individual 'being the supreme power' at 7:30... gave me chills!!!

America Is Under Attack from Within

Aug 18, 2017

 

 

More in the transcript below...

 

RUSH: America is under attack from within. Our culture, our history, our founding are under the most direct assault I have seen in my life. And I’m sure it’s the same with you. We haven’t seen anything like this. You might even get away with saying that we are on the cusp of a second civil war. Some of you might say that we are already into it, that it has already begun. However you characterize it, though, we are under attack from within. And it’s being bought and paid for by people from outside America, in addition to inside.

 

I’m thinking of people like George Soros and any other number of international financiers whose objective it is to take the United States out and down as a superpower, to literally erase the United States as a powerful or super powerful nation.

 

Now, folks, in order to defend America, which I believe is incumbent upon all of us, in order to defend America, you have to begin knowing our history. If you’re gonna defend the United States of America, you have to know our history. You have to know the purpose of the United States of America. You have to know unequivocally and proudly the United States’ place in history. And that is why erasing and distorting our history is crucial for the left to succeed.

None of this that is happening on the left is random. None of the riots, none of the protests. They are not the result of the left being offended by individual acts. Antifa didn’t show up in Charlottesville because they found out something was going to happen that offended them. They showed up in Charlottesville to create mayhem and cause hell. They showed up in Ferguson, Missouri, to do the same thing.

RushFlagUnderSeige-Z.jpgThey showed up in Baltimore to do the same thing — and wherever they show up today and tomorrow and next week, it’s by design, on purpose, has an objective and an agenda. And that agenda is to erase American history. That agenda is to distort, erase, and impugn our history. It is crucial if they are to succeed. Because, you see, if enough Americans can be persuaded that America, as founded, is unjust — if enough Americans can be persuaded that America, as founded, is inherently racist and immoral and illegitimate — then it will be all that much easier to erase America as founded.

The two go hand in hand, which is the objective of all of these groups on the left. Whatever they’re called and wherever they go and however they organize and whatever their day-to-day purpose, their objective is to erase the history of America. It’s to restate it, to recharacterize it in such a way as to convince a majority of Americans that their country is illegitimate and has been from the get-go — is unjust and racist and bigoted and has been from the get-go.

If enough Americans can be persuaded of all of that — that America is inherently racist, that America is and has been a lie — then it’s over. That is the objective, and we are in the midst of it. Sometimes you’re so close to the forest you don’t see the trees. That’s what we are in the midst of here: An ongoing effort to erase America by discrediting the entire premise of our culture, our history, our founding. The objective is to create in as many American minds as possible that America as founded is not worth defending. Serious times.

America-Is-Under-Attack-From-Within-1.jpThis is a very, very serious effort that is underway. Sadly, it has a lot of allies. It has a lot of people helping it that ought to be opposing it, but they are choosing what they think is the path of least resistance, which is defined by the media. You’ve got several Republicans who I believe are unwittingly participating in the effort to cast America as indefensible, particularly with Donald Trump as president. Trump as president is, in their view…

The attacks on Trump, the characterization of his presidency, is designed to show how really flawed America is. That somebody like this could be elected, that means it’s time to get rid of the Constitution. That means it’s time to get… Whatever made Trump possible, it’s time to change it and get rid of it. This is very, very serious stuff happening here, and it has the aid and support of the media, which means it has the aid and support of the worldwide left and the Democrat Party.

America’s profound morality, kindness, widespread prosperity, and design for equal opportunity should be self-evident. But that assumes that factual, historically accurate reporting in education is taking place, and we know that it isn’t. It is a shame and a near crime that the profound morality and greatness and kindness and widespread prosperity and equal opportunity that is America isn’t known. It is a crime that those characteristics of our country are in the process being recast and erased. We are getting hysterically inaccurate reporting.

We have been in the midst of hysterically inaccurate education for generations. America is unique. America copied no other country. Every other country was a copycat of others, with governments that denied individual freedom, denied opportunity, denied sovereignty. That’s what was copied. Tyranny was copied, nation to nation, people to people. That is the history of humanity: Living in tyranny, living under authoritarianism, living in poverty, living in sickness — until the United States came along, which copied nothing.

The United States and its founders rejected all of that tyranny, oppression, poverty. In America, the individual was the supreme power. That is being erased under the premise that the individual is corrupt. The individual is likely a racist or a transphobe or a homophobe or some other ill-prepared sack of humanity, and so we need to overcome the corruption that is the individual, that incomparable embrace of humanity that is the United States of America.

There’s no place on this planet that human beings would rather be than the United States of America. And yet people born and raised in this country have been persuaded that America is a sinkhole, a hellhole, a sewer, a garbage dump, or a dungeon, and they’re in the process of actually creating all of that — under the guise that civil rights, equality, and liberty. The incomparable embrace of humanity that is the United States is under attack. Leftists, Democrats seek control over 100% of the population. They accomplish this with lies, such as the Affordable Health Care Act.

They accomplish it with one lie after another. The lies being told today are the lies designed to convince people their country is not worth maintaining as it is, their country is not worth maintaining as founded because it was founded as racist, sexist, bigoted, homophobic (you know the drill), immoral and illegitimate. Ignorant people will not remain free for very long. The media is working on a path parallel with school systems to actively and passively distort information to wipe out from the vestiges of our history and our memory any collection of stories that testify to the greatness of America and her people.

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RUSH: As I say, folks, ignorant people will not remain free for very long. The media is working on a path parallel with school systems, and now major corporations are joining in this effort. Free, informed speech is punished, diversity of thought is punished and discouraged — and it’s all coming to a head now, folks. This mop is made to appear much bigger than it really is. This mob tried to elect Hillarious Clinton and failed. The media is directing all of this call it a soap opera or a movement or a strategy. And let me tell you, the media and these mobs? They’re not just into removing statues, folks.

They’re not in this just to remove Republicans, and they’re not in this just to remove Donald Trump. The campaign here is to convince you that your country isn’t worth defending. The campaign here is to convince you your country is deeply flawed from the outset and needs to be completely remade, reconstituted, outside the framework of a constitutional republic. “That has failed! We must discard that and reconstitute ourselves as an authoritarian, benevolent” that’s what they think it would be “tyranny.” The campaign is to concentrate power and to end the era of the individual and individual liberty.

BREAK TRANSCRIPT

RUSH: This is a very important theme I’m leading off the program with today, folks. I don’t often do monologues or sermon-like things, but this was… We’re in the midst of something extremely crucial. This really does involve the future of the country as founded. I’ve known for years it’s under siege, under attack. I know the left. I know their motivations. I know their objectives. I know who funds them. I know how they’ve educated people.

But it’s now plain as day for anybody in the world to see, that they are attempting to seriously convince as many Americans as possible there’s nothing defensible about this country. It needs to be torn down and rebuilt. It’s not savable. This country is too flawed, it is too flawed, it’s too far gone. There’s not enough goodness and decency to grab hold of and reform. This is why education has dumbed people down. This is why so few people know genuine American history. So few people actually understand what I mentioned at the beginning of this.

Liberalism2PIX.jpgYou have to know American history. You have to know the purpose. You have to know America’s place in history. You have to know why 56 men risked their lives and their fortunes and their sacred honor to declare independence from the tyranny of the day. You have to know why they did that. You have to know what they faced. You have to have a deep appreciation for your individual personal liberty. You have to have a deep appreciation for the history of the world — which is that until the United States came along, that didn’t exist as a charter of government.

There were people that had individual liberty and freedom. They ran tyrannical countries, they ran authoritarian countries, they ran dungeons, or they were wealthy elite. But the vast majority of human beings who have lived on this planet have never come close to knowing what life is like in the United States of America. But around the world today and since our founding, everybody alive does know and tries to get here — temporarily, permanently, what have you.

And yet all of it is under assault and being rewritten with the theme being that this country is not worth it, that it is deeply flawed. America is not worth defending. It’s inherently racist and unjust. And here’s the real irony. This bunch of people down in Charlottesville, this ragtag bunch of Nazis and Klan members and white supremacists? There’s not enough of those people to affect any kind of change whatsoever. Not systemic change. Not enough of those people to elect enough people to matter. There aren’t enough of those people to matter, period.

They are not the problem. They don’t have power in America today. They don’t have any, compared to the people opposing them. How many people show up at a Klan rally these days if they have one? The media doesn’t show you because it’s so tiny. The media wants you to think the Klan elected Donald Trump. The media wants you to think the Klan, the Nazis, and the white supremacists elected Donald Trump and that Steve Bannon put ’em all together and grew them. There aren’t enough of those people to elect a member of Congress, much less a president.

They are not the problem. The problem is on the other side. The problem comes from people who do have power — and what power they have! They have the power to shut down free speech on campus. They have the power to totally corrupt the movie, the book, the music and TV industries. They have real power! The anarchists, the anti-Americans, the Antifa, the Occupy Wall Street, the Black Lives Matter, the United States mainstream media, the Democrat Party, they have power. They are leading the effort that is attempting to teach that America is unjust and immoral and illegal.

These little hapless people marching around wearing white hoods couldn’t stop diddly-squat. They don’t have any power. They’ve been shamed into practically nonexistence. Yet they are hoisted up. They are portrayed as the people running this country — or the people who used to run this country and they ran it for all these years, and now they are losing it, justifiably, and they are panicked and causing trouble. They don’t have any power compared to the people that I’m talking about. You think the Klan can compare to the mainstream media?

Leftists-Are-Tearing-America-Apart-whileYou think the Nazis, however many of them there are — or few — can compare to the media and academia and Hollywood? It’s a joke! The same thing with the Nazis and the same thing with the white supremacists. But when you talk Black Lives Matter, when you talk Occupy Wall Street or any of these other left-wing groups that end up rioting and protesting, they are the military wing of the people with power in this country. These people run the Washington establishment. You don’t find in you Klansmen there, and you don’t find any Nazis there, because there aren’t enough of those people to matter a hill of beans.

But yet look how they are portrayed. None of these people run institutions of higher learning. None of these people are in charge of massive amounts of money donated by other wealthy people and then redistributed to advance the leftist cause. They don’t have anything like that. They’re not the people to worry about. And yet, turn on the news, and the only people to worry about — and the reason why America must be reconstituted, the reason why America is unjust and illegitimate — is because of a bunch of people who wouldn’t fill a phone booth in a proportional illustration of the population of this country.

In the process, the American people are being misdirected and told to fear the wrong people. At the same time, they’re being told to believe and appreciate “the right people,” and the right people are the people who really wield the power and who really have, as their objectives, to undermine and overthrow the Constitution of this country and create something different that will end up nullifying the whole concept of individual liberty and freedom. You already see this on the internet. The internet is unregulated, and that’s good.

But look what has happened here. Do you think the Klan can hold a candle to PayPal? Can the Nazis hold a candle to Facebook? Can white supremacists in any way compete in terms of power with Twitter? There’s no way. So those websites have all decided amongst themselves — the CEOs of those websites have unilaterally decided — they are not gonna allow any speech they don’t like. Now, they do this under the guise of banning hate speech from the Nazis and related websites, white supremacist websites and so forth. And it’s applauded.

But these guys are admitting the only reason they’re doing it is ’cause they don’t like these guys and they don’t want to have to see them their sites. What if they wake up tomorrow and don’t like you? They are in effect saying that due to their own sensibilities of what’s right and wrong and just and unjust, they are gonna decide who has the ability to think and say whatever is thought and said on their platforms. Do you agree with that or not? Do you think that’s okay?

Do you say, “Well, Rush, I gotta side with ’em. I don’t think the storm troopers ought to have a website, and I don’t think the supremacists ought to…” Okay, fine. Remember, they don’t have any power to do diddly-squat. All they can do is offend you and make you mad. They don’t have any power to do anything. But do you think that three people — Zuckerberg and whoever the other two are that run PayPal and Facebook, Twitter, whatever. Do you think they ought to be able to wake up one day and just decide? But they’re doing it — under the guise, by the way, of cleansing and pursuing and sanctifying.

FlagCultural-Rot.jpgThat’s not what they’re doing.

They are limiting speech.

I saw some idiot Democrat on TV the other day. Oh! No! It was one of the cofounders of Black Lives Matter. A woman. Do you know what she said? “The Constitution prohibits hate speech.” I heard that, and I thought, “You know, there are going to be a lot of people that agree with it, ’cause they don’t know, because they’ve been taught that ‘hate speech’ is bad.” Who defines, by the way, “hate speech”? Like, I think I’m the victim of hate speech every day. There’s some hate speech on me in — what is it? The Washington Post today. I think it’s the Washington Post.

Yep, there’s hate speech on me today in the Washington Post. People speak of me with hate every day in mainstream news organizations. But here’s the founder of Black Lives Matter: “The Constitution prohibits hate speech.” No. In fact, what the Constitution does is allows it. The First Amendment specifically permits it! That’s the point of the First Amendment, the free speech clause. There isn’t any limit that a government can put on it — other than calling “fire” in a crowded theater, of course, that kind of thing.

But political speech, specifically referenced in the founding documents, there isn’t any limit on it. Hate speech, the speech you hate and disagree with, that is the speech protected. And the age-old theory has been the way you drown it out is with mountains and mountains and mountains of more free speech that condemns, that ridicules, that relegates.

But that’s not how the left goes about it. The left gets offended and says, “You don’t have the right to offend me. I’m shutting you up or down.” And people applaud it. Those are the people have the power in America today, folks. The people that run universities that you’re spending $25,000 a semester to send your kid to. The Drive-By Media. Your local school board, the Hollywood entertainment industry, that’s real power. That’s where the power is. And it’s all aligned and arrayed on one side.

Donald Trump is coming up against it. Who do you think’s winning that battle? Who’s winning that battle of power? And then you want to tell me they want to tell me that we need to really fear this bunch of lunatics in the Klan and this bunch of hapless half-wits in the white supremacy movement? Seriously?

 

https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2017/08/18/america-is-under-attack-from-within/

Thank You WHN!  I caught the second half of this live... so I'm glad I got to see the first half!  

 

Hmmm... channeling some of us here at DV!!!  The language and expressiveness ECHOES loudly!!!  How coincidental!!!  Perhaps, because many of us SEE it so clearly... and recently!!!  Yes... the ALARMS ARE DEAFENING!!!!

 

Thank YOU, WHN... and others who are screaming our warning...  THANK YOU, DiveMaster!!!

 

And Thank You, ALL for any support provided ME!!!  You're the BEST!!!

Jax

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This is something everyone should read and ponder on it. 

 

We need to be aware of their issues, issues that they hide behind to spread their agenda.  They want you to think otherwise, in reality it is something bigger, something to do with our freedoms.  Think people think.

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1 hour ago, pattyangel said:

This is something everyone should read and ponder on it. 

 

We need to be aware of their issues, issues that they hide behind to spread their agenda.  They want you to think otherwise, in reality it is something bigger, something to do with our freedoms.  Think people think.

AND... THANK YOU, PattyAngel Warrior!!!

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On 8/18/2017 at 5:51 AM, yota691 said:

 

Just watched this video.

Wow

I strongly suggest everyone that intends to comment on this issue at all watch this short video.

What is pathetic is how every single MSM outlet is ignoring actual video and instead making up their own story.

The narrative fits, actually, aside from being dumb enough to even bother trying to drive through a mob of antifa protesters, if someone started attacking me while in my truck, then you might as well get ready for a massive body count, as I will in fact use whatever deadly weapon I have to defend myself.

I would have left the area, dropped the rig, and then turned myself in later with an attorney, but I have already stated, I am fully prepared to run over any moron who decides to attack me.

But then, I also have three levels of deterrents, mace, stun, and 9 mm I never leave home without, plus I would have never been so flipping stupid as to ever attempt to drive through a bunch of Nazis looking for individuals they can oppress with their mob rules mentality.

Actually, picked up a 16oz can of mace just to do a drive-by and offer free face painting to any BLM or other anti-American protesters, just doing my part to help spread the love..

I can see the guy just panicked when someone hit his charger with a bat.

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David Horowitz: Charlottesville Is Biggest 'Fake News' Story of Summer

Image: David Horowitz: Charlottesville Is Biggest 'Fake News' Story of Summer
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By David Horowitz   |   Wednesday, 16 Aug 2017 01:37 PM

 

 

The tragedy in Charlottesville, Virginia, could have been an occasion to stop and consider how the tolerance for politically correct violence and politically correct hatred is leading the nation toward civil war.

Instead, the media and the political left have turned this incident into the biggest fake news story of the summer, transforming its real lessons into a morality play that justifies war against the political right, and against white people generally.

The organizers of the "Unite the Right" demonstration in Charlottesville were repellent racists.

But they came to defend a historic monument honoring a complex man and cause, and not to attack it or, presumably, anyone else.

They applied for a permit and were denied. They re-applied successfully in a petition supported by the local ACLU.

If they had come to precipitate violence, why would they have gone to the tedious trouble of applying for a permit?

Who knows what — if anything — would have happened if that had been the end of the story and no one had showed up to oppose them.

What "Unite the Right" actually demonstrated was that the assortment of neo-Nazis, pro-Confederates, and assorted yahoos gathered under the banner of the "Alt-Right" is actually a negligible group.

This supposed national show of strength actually attracted all of 500 people.

Compare that to the tens of the thousands who can readily be marshaled by two violent groups of the left — Black Lives Matter and Antifa — and you get an idea of how marginal "white supremacists" are to America's political and cultural life.

Yet "white supremacy" and its evils became the centerpiece of all the fake news reporting on the event, including all the ludicrous attacks on the president for not condemning enough a bogeyman the whole nation condemns, and that no one but a risible fringe supports.

Talk about virtue signaling!

Omitted from the media coverage were the other forces at work in precipitating the battle of Emancipation Park, specifically Black Lives Matter and Antifa, two violent left-wing groups with racial agendas who came to squelch the demonstration in defense of the monument.

Unlike the Unite the Right demonstrators, the leftist groups did not apply for permits, which would have been denied since there was another demonstration scheduled for that park on that day.

But why should they have applied for a permit, since the mayhem they had previously caused in Ferguson, Berkeley, Sacramento, Portland, and other cities, was accomplished without permits, while their criminality was presented by the media as "protests," and their rioting went completely unpunished.

In other words, there were two demonstrations in Charlottesville — a legal protest by "Unite the Right" and an illegal protest by the vigilantes of Antifa and Black Lives Matter.

Who started the fight is really immaterial. Both sides were prepared for violence because these conflicts are already a pattern of our deteriorating civic life.

Once the two sides had gathered in the same place, the violence was totally predictable.

Two parties, two culpabilities; but except for the initial statement of President Donald Trump, condemning both sides, only one party has been held accountable, and that happens to be the one that was in the park legally.

What is taking place in the media accounts and political commentaries on this event is an effort by the left to turn the mayhem in Charlottesville into a template for their war against a mythical enemy — "white supremacy" — which is really a war on white people generally.

The ideology that drives the left and divides our country is "identity politics" — the idea that the world consists of two groups — "people of color" who are guiltless and oppressed, and white people who are guilty and oppressors.

This is the real race war.

Its noxious themes inform the mindless, hysterical hatred of President Trump, and the equally mindless support of racist mobs like Black Lives Matter and Antifa.

It is a war from which no good can come. But it won’t be stopped unless enough people have the courage to stand up and name it for what it is.

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