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When I was younger, my parents used to always watch Paul Harvey's short show about the rest of the story.  It seems to me that over the last more than ten years I have been watching this Iraqi Dinar option with such great hope and inspiration that it has becoming blinding to other possibilities.  But I had a glimmer of reality enter my brain today when these thoughts came together.  

 

First, I have to recall the purpose of the the Iraqi invasion in 2003.  Going against all aspects of practical Sun Zu Art of War and modern day warfare planning, the forces taking Iraq to remove Saddam Hussein, did a direct attack straight through, all the way to Baghdad!  This went against every planner, practical war thinking aspect imagined.  If this was really a war event, there would have been a solid wave of allied forces covering all aspects of invading the country.  

 

However, the real purpose as it has been discovered, was to acquire the historical artifacts which were being found more often around tikrit and the Mesopotamian valley over the recent 5, 10 years.  The artifacts were being stored and catalogued in the basement of the Iraq History Museum and pieces of the true story about the real history of the world was being further identified.  

 

The initial forces after hitting baghdad and causing the collective defensive forces to scatter, allowed a discreet special unit to get into the museum, blast through intensively secure basement doors and quickly secure the items to get them away.  Then they were taken to the airport and flown out on some of the first flights to leave the country after the airport was secured.  Seems far fetched, no it is reality.  

 

The people of the country within hours of the taking of Baghdad, were rallied around removing items resembling Saddam Hussein, but that was all a distraction.  Then as the country fell into chaos, there were not enough troops to keep order, and money, other than American dollars became worthless.   

 

There is a hidden secret government which has created an underground politic across the world.  The removal of any government which does not have their banking system in it, is brought down.  They also have historical artifacts, very very old world historical object that are of great value for the knowledge they maintain.  This is because of how we have been misled since the 1200's and 1300's when the biblical information we have been given was being re-written.  

 

You see, the process of historical revisioning was being pushed here to prevent the real story from coming out.  The dinar story, becoming rich and wealthy because of a country recovering from war is a falsity, as there are so many dinars being removed from circulation within Iraq, then shipped out in huge shipping containers for "collectors," before they can re-denominate their currency.  

 

What better way to remove those larger bills, than by selling to the unsuspecting world middle class and poor who all hope for a better life.  The plan has been from the start, with the state department, the CIA, the International Special Intelligence Service, and other shadow agencies to prop up the world's super wealthy and elite in pushing their one world electronic banking system throughout the middle east.  

 

To do it however, all the countries which were not part of their elite banking collective have to be taken down. Iraq, Libya, Egypt, Yemen, a few small countries in Africa have now fallen victim to the collective elite.  Now to finish the process, they must add to these, Syria and Korea, two of the last of a very small number of countries not under their control!  They are not part of the international elite banking set, and therefore they must be broken and forced into the it!  (a comment I cannot remember who said it, "We will have a one world government by either consent, or conquest!").  We are seeing this put into practice before our eyes.  

 

The elite cannot allow for any other monies to make people wealthy in this process.  We saw in Kuwait, they removed or withdrew the Kuwaiti Dinars from trade on the world market as Iraq forced the kuwaiti people to use more kuwaiti dinars at cheaper values.  Then after the retaking of Kuwait, and even before electricity was restored for the country, the banks identified the old currency and the monies Iraqi pushed onto them, and said this is not going to work.  They made new Kuwaiti money and offered an equal trade in for what it was worth before the invasion!  Out with the old, in with the new, from March 25th 1991 until May 7th 1991, the kuwaiti people needed to exchange all the old money.  Then, with an exchange rate of 3.5, they restarted their economy!  

 

Iraq is not the same or even a similiar story.  Iraq's currency became worthless with the invasion.  American dollars began to be used, and was a preferred money for a long time.  Iraqi dinars were removed from the world stage because they became worthless.  They have not recovered their value, and in order to follow the plan of decreasing the cost managing so much cash in country, approximately 6-8% of GDP in managing all that weak money, the mathematically described theory of homogenous function has been pushed since before the taking over of Iraq in it recovery.  (Supposedly a US state department memo identified it in 2002 or 2003).  

 

I heard about this when I was in Baghdad in May 2004, after I bought a collection of Iraqi Dinar, and was told by a VIP patient who I took care of, that I may only get back what I put into those dinars.  (If I was told about this in 2004, then they knew about it before).  Thus, if I remember homogenous function, we will have the same strength of money before the process as we will have after, i.e. if 25000 dinar buys a fast food dinner before they do this, then 25 dinar will buy the same after this.  But unfortunately for all humanity, the study of history for every body on earth, only 400 to 600 of the over 10,000 items taken from the basement of the Iraqi history museum were ever recovered!  And now you know the rest of the story!

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You made some valid points but it's pretty well accepted that the purpose of the first Gulf War was to get rid of Saddam because he wanted to bypass the petrodollar -  which would have destabilized the US dollar.  I don't buy the historical artifacts story.  And just because one of your VIP patients didn't believe Iraq would recover, it doesn't make it true.  Listen to the  Breitling Currency report (sorry no link - if I post it the mods always remove it even though the site is strictly a news site and doesn't sell anything) where he does a terrific recap of what happened in Iraq - starting with the first Gulf War.  Breitling is, and always has been, strictly about the facts and he wholehearted believes in this investment.  And it's a fact that for decades, the Iraqi dinar held a value of over US$3 and that for years Iraq has been saying that they plan to return their currency value to that level.  

 

I'm sure you felt your were providing some good information, but I think if you research more deeply, you may come to a different conclusion.

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22 hours ago, Botzwana said:

Oh gee...another lopster that has to come to TRY to save us.  God go get a life pal.  I am going to hold onto mine.  What are you going to do about it?  This really belongs in the tank.

Well I am not a lopster, first of all I am not trying to save you or anyone else.  I have a life, I am the president of a company that is doing well, and I have kept my dinars for a long time.  Only wanted to share my historical information, to either create a bigger picture about our long delay for RV.  I wasn't aware part of this site is trashing others for their thoughts which were in the opinion section anyway.  I guess I should just keep my opinions to myself rather than sharing what little knowledge I have with people like you who recommend my thoughts and comments belong in the tank...

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20 hours ago, Karsten said:

I like old Paul Harvey stuff but I never recall he had much to say about the Middle East.

 

https://youtu.be/H3Az0okaHig

 

 

 

Karsten

Hi Karsten, I agree, I don't think Paul Harvey said anything about the Middle East, but the idea of we are not usually told all the information to give us sheeple/debt slaves, is more rampant now than it was back in the 1960's and 1970's!  By keeping information from us, I perceive it is a means of controlling us.  Not allowing us to have a well informed opinion.  Anyway, wanted to say thank you.  

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10 hours ago, KristiD said:

You made some valid points but it's pretty well accepted that the purpose of the first Gulf War was to get rid of Saddam because he wanted to bypass the petrodollar -  which would have destabilized the US dollar.  I don't buy the historical artifacts story.  And just because one of your VIP patients didn't believe Iraq would recover, it doesn't make it true.  Listen to the  Breitling Currency report (sorry no link - if I post it the mods always remove it even though the site is strictly a news site and doesn't sell anything) where he does a terrific recap of what happened in Iraq - starting with the first Gulf War.  Breitling is, and always has been, strictly about the facts and he wholehearted believes in this investment.  And it's a fact that for decades, the Iraqi dinar held a value of over US$3 and that for years Iraq has been saying that they plan to return their currency value to that level.  

 

I'm sure you felt your were providing some good information, but I think if you research more deeply, you may come to a different conclusion.

Hi KristiD and thank you for your feedback.  I am only trying to share information about what I learned from Iraqi people during my deployments.  Yes there is a lot of public information about the bypassing of the petro dollar, and that Iraq is not a member of the elite banking cartel.  I was only trying to also share about how Saddam refused to share with outside sources about all their findings with historical artifacts, clay tablets, underground hidden secrets with the rest of us.  It was because they were about to go public with a lot of their new discoveries, that the petro dollar concept was used to push him out.  There were inteligence reports which identified members of the Kuwaiti Royal family sending assassins to kill him which was the initial basis for the Kuwait invasion, but that is not what they tell us in the news or when we do a little, "light research."  Dig deeper, you will be amazed what you really learn...

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12 hours ago, KristiD said:

You made some valid points but it's pretty well accepted that the purpose of the first Gulf War was to get rid of Saddam because he wanted to bypass the petrodollar -  which would have destabilized the US dollar.  I don't buy the historical artifacts story.  And just because one of your VIP patients didn't believe Iraq would recover, it doesn't make it true.  Listen to the  Breitling Currency report (sorry no link - if I post it the mods always remove it even though the site is strictly a news site and doesn't sell anything) where he does a terrific recap of what happened in Iraq - starting with the first Gulf War.  Breitling is, and always has been, strictly about the facts and he wholehearted believes in this investment.  And it's a fact that for decades, the Iraqi dinar held a value of over US$3 and that for years Iraq has been saying that they plan to return their currency value to that level.  

 

I'm sure you felt your were providing some good information, but I think if you research more deeply, you may come to a different conclusion.

Gaddafi was another that wanted to dump the USD and Petrodollar and start a new Gold Back Currency....obama and Hillarious saw that never happened didn't they.

 

 

Just sayin,

 

Karsten

 

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5 hours ago, MajDA said:

Well I am not a lopster, first of all I am not trying to save you or anyone else.  I have a life, I am the president of a company that is doing well, and I have kept my dinars for a long time.  Only wanted to share my historical information, to either create a bigger picture about our long delay for RV.  I wasn't aware part of this site is trashing others for their thoughts which were in the opinion section anyway.  I guess I should just keep my opinions to myself rather than sharing what little knowledge I have with people like you who recommend my thoughts and comments belong in the tank...

MajDA, 

 

Thank you for taking the time to post your :twocents:

 

As you have experienced, things can get unnecessarily uncomfortable out here on the "free" part of the Dinar Vets site. As a MOD I prefer not to be a referee, and as you noted, this was your 1st post. Often the reception a post receives and the direction a thread goes is based on the Section posted in, the reputation of the person posting, support links, and even the feedback given by other members. 

 

The "Opinion" section can be a rough one. There is unfortunately a long history of self-promotion and attempts to promote a view or position in here. 

 

Still, we keep these sections (along with Rumors, Lopster Tank and even Chat Logs open for people to post in. 

 

We strive to keep conversations civil, but at the end of the day our real commitment is to VERIFIABLE and current information for serious investors (the VIP and OSI Sections). There is quite a different clientele, content and conversations taking place in there. 

 

Out here on the "Free" site it is often more like the parking lot or lobby. There may be lots of conversations, characters and long standing relationships and friendships. Sometimes it just takes a while for relationships to develop and for other members to get familiar with who is posting (and why). 

 

Unfortunately cyberspace allows for perpetual middle-school antagonists, cliques and anonymity. Some people are quick to reply (or even judge), others lurk and think, and most do not post at all. 

 

Sure, there can be misunderstandings, and people regularly post clarifications and apologies. 

 

Don't be too hard on yourself (or others). Keep on reading and posting. If someone takes objection to someything you post, either ignore it, or if you feel it is warranted, ask for specifics and clarification. Sometimes it is just a misunderstanding (and unfortunately sometimes it is just someone being rude). We ask that all members conduct themselves in a civil manner. A negative post (or few) won't get anyone banned, but a string of negativity and abuse to others will not be tolerated. 

 

As @Bumper64says "Play Nice". 

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On 8/8/2017 at 3:48 AM, Caye98 said:

MajDA, 

 

Thank you for taking the time to post your :twocents:

 

As you have experienced, things can get unnecessarily uncomfortable out here on the "free" part of the Dinar Vets site. As a MOD I prefer not to be a referee, and as you noted, this was your 1st post. Often the reception a post receives and the direction a thread goes is based on the Section posted in, the reputation of the person posting, support system" rel="">support links, and even the feedback given by other members. 

 

The "Opinion" section can be a rough one. There is unfortunately a long history of self-promotion and attempts to promote a view or position in here. 

 

Still, we keep these sections (along with Rumors, Lopster Tank and even Chat Logs open for people to post in. 

 

We strive to keep conversations civil, but at the end of the day our real commitment is to VERIFIABLE and current information for serious investors (the VIP and OSI Sections). There is quite a different clientele, content and conversations taking place in there. 

 

Out here on the "Free" site it is often more like the parking lot or lobby. There may be lots of conversations, characters and long standing relationships and friendships. Sometimes it just takes a while for relationships to develop and for other members to get familiar with who is posting (and why). 

 

Unfortunately cyberspace allows for perpetual middle-school antagonists, cliques and anonymity. Some people are quick to reply (or even judge), others lurk and think, and most do not post at all. 

 

Sure, there can be misunderstandings, and people regularly post clarifications and apologies. 

 

Don't be too hard on yourself (or others). Keep on reading and posting. If someone takes objection to someything you post, either ignore it, or if you feel it is warranted, ask for specifics and clarification. Sometimes it is just a misunderstanding (and unfortunately sometimes it is just someone being rude). We ask that all members conduct themselves in a civil manner. A negative post (or few) won't get anyone banned, but a string of negativity and abuse to others will not be tolerated. 

 

As @Bumper64says "Play Nice". 

 

Very well said my friend :twothumbs:

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